Optimism of whites in US lags blacks ...

Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2245 Aug 30, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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First, skills are acquired. You are not born with skills.
Second, someone who speaks Spanish (as their native language) makes them a token, otherwise you would have not used the requirement it be their native language.
So it would seem that you would discriminate against me because I am not Hispanic, yet I can speak Spanish and some broken Japanese.
People do indeed have natural skills they are born with; they learn how to apply those natural skills as they grow and develop into adults.

I prefer someone who speaks Spanish (or whatever other language) as their native tongue because they also are more likely to be fluent in the nuances of dialects/slang/etc and have a greater understanding of the culture than someone who took a year of Spanish in high school.

I wouldn't be discriminating against you, but rather choosing a more qualified individual for the position.

Btw, that would apply to a Hispanic who doesn't speak Spanish as their native tongue as well. You DO realize many Hispanics in the US don't speak Spanish?
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#2246 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Well I'm done for the night.
I'll let you racists plan your next civil war amongst yourselves.....
Oh. So that's what you are doing here. Helping plan a civil war.
Got it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2247 Aug 30, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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I can live with the war statement. Why hasn't Obama done that? However that does not mean reduce the military.
Foreign aid, I agree.
Tax breaks for coal/oil/gas, what do you tell the people in that industry who lose their jobs? What do you tell the students you are trying to help that would have gone into one of those industries? What do you tell the rest of the country when that leads to that exceptional student that would have invented a way to extract those fuels more efficiently and cleanly, not going into that field?
What are you going to say if you were able to accomplish these things, and every individual gets an equal opportunity at education, and we continue to see the same statistics on Welfare, violent crime, single motherhood...?
Obama hasn't ended our non-stop war machine for the same reason Bush didn't, and Clinton didn't, and Bush Sr didn't, and Reagan didn't- the military industrial complex essentially controls govt foreign policy. Why do you think we won't cut off aid to Egypt even though they've had a military coup? The sale of fighter jets and other weaponry to the Egyptian military generates millions for American weapons manufacturers.

Ending tax breaks for oil/coal/gas doesn't mean people have to lose their jobs. Those companies make BILLIONS in profits EVERY MONTH. They have a defacto monopoly on energy production & distribution; they certainly are in no danger of going out of business. Do they really need a tax break just so they can raise the price of gas 30 cents overnight like they did for this weekend?

I'll tell you when we get there.....

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2248 Aug 30, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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So you postulate that in order to be successful you must have a work force based on diversity.
No, I'm saying having a diverse workforce makes it more likely to be successful.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2249 Aug 30, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>What a sweet and tender, heart squishy statement that ignores reality.
I live in a town where the black population is OVER 50%. There are 4 high schools and the average cost per student is $9,500/student. The funny thing is though, the number of white students seem to be higher for college acceptance than blacks.
How can that be since the same teachers and same classrooms exist for all students?
It's called CULTURE! The fatherless family, victim mentality, refusal to seek a better life for your kids is quite prevalent.
You can though all the damn money you want at poor, "disadvantaged" black kids you want. But until that culture gets the victim mentality out of their ignorant little heads...they will remain poor.
Sadly, here as well, affirmative action has provided better lifestyles for these mothers of numerous children and yet they still do not instill work ethic for education or life.
You sir are sadly ignorant of the real problem.
You probably missed the numerous 50 MLK speeches this week that reported that blacks are worse off today than 50 years ago. The reason was that blacks refuse to take advantage of what the civil rights movement provides them with today!!!
Wake up and smell the opportunity you fricken bigot!
Parents- regardless of their race- need to be educated on their responsibilities as well.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2250 Aug 30, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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He will never get it. His mind is made up, and facts be damned.
Ditto.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#2251 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Obama hasn't ended our non-stop war machine for the same reason Bush didn't, and Clinton didn't, and Bush Sr didn't, and Reagan didn't- the military industrial complex essentially controls govt foreign policy. Why do you think we won't cut off aid to Egypt even though they've had a military coup? The sale of fighter jets and other weaponry to the Egyptian military generates millions for American weapons manufacturers.
Ending tax breaks for oil/coal/gas doesn't mean people have to lose their jobs. Those companies make BILLIONS in profits EVERY MONTH. They have a defacto monopoly on energy production & distribution; they certainly are in no danger of going out of business. Do they really need a tax break just so they can raise the price of gas 30 cents overnight like they did for this weekend?
I'll tell you when we get there.....
He was supposed to be different. Remember? Hope and Change and all that. So what happened is he is a failure in that regard and his cultural background gives him immunity to any criticisms by a wide swatch of the population. There was a candidate that may have made a difference. But both sides neutered him. Brandishing anyone who actually would have made the changes needed as crazy and other names seems to work in America. We will meet our Waterloo now. Its just the matter of how.

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#2252 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>People do indeed have natural skills they are born with; they learn how to apply those natural skills as they grow and develop into adults.

gainst you, but rather choosing a more qualified individual for the position.

Btw, that would apply to a Hispanic who doesn't speak Spanish as their native tongue as well. You DO realize many Hispanics in the US don't speak Spanish?
"People do indeed have natural skills they are born with; they learn how to apply those natural skills as they grow and develop into adults." There is only one job I can think of where that would be applicable. Prostitution is illegal.

Further contributing to the erasure of America. We speak English in America. Those who immigrate here should be required to learn English. Instead, the burden is once again placed on the wrong people.

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#2253 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>I was the hospital manager, but also worked as a technician assisting the Vets.
RVT?

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#2254 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Parents- regardless of their race- need to be educated on their responsibilities as well.
True , but that is dodging the issue.

Here is a black man saying the same thing or is he just a Tom.

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#2255 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Obama hasn't ended our non-stop war machine for the same reason Bush didn't, and Clinton didn't, and Bush Sr didn't, and Reagan didn't- the military industrial complex essentially controls govt foreign policy. Why do you think we won't cut off aid to Egypt even though they've had a military coup? The sale of fighter jets and other weaponry to the Egyptian military generates millions for American weapons manufacturers.

Ending tax breaks for oil/coal/gas doesn't mean people have to lose their jobs. Those companies make BILLIONS in profits EVERY MONTH. They have a defacto monopoly on energy production & distribution; they certainly are in no danger of going out of business. Do they really need a tax break just so they can raise the price of gas 30 cents overnight like they did for this weekend?

I'll tell you when we get there.....
But I thought Obama was different. He is black, and therefore can do no wrong. What say you?

"Ending tax breaks for oil/coal/gas doesn't mean people have to lose their jobs. Those companies make BILLIONS in profits EVERY MONTH." Hmmmm. So, when you got your hospital successful and profitable, if the government took away tax breaks and the profit margin dropped, would you have kept all the staff? If you did, the corporation would have given you the choice of pay cuts or layoffs. If the corporation did not want to maximize profitability, they would not have offered you the other hospitals to "fix". Would you have taken a pay cut, or let people go? Pay cuts mean people struggle more or change their lifestyle. That also affects who and how many pursue a career in that field.

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#2256 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Ditto.
I have posted fact after fact after fact...
Where are yours? This may come as a shock to you. Your OPINIONS are not facts!

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#2257 Aug 30, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text>He was supposed to be different. Remember? Hope and Change and all that. So what happened is he is a failure in that regard and his cultural background gives him immunity to any criticisms by a wide swatch of the population. There was a candidate that may have made a difference. But both sides neutered him. Brandishing anyone who actually would have made the changes needed as crazy and other names seems to work in America. We will meet our Waterloo now. Its just the matter of how.
Precisely!

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2258 Aug 30, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> He was supposed to be different. Remember? Hope and Change and all that. So what happened is he is a failure in that regard and his cultural background gives him immunity to any criticisms by a wide swatch of the population. There was a candidate that may have made a difference. But both sides neutered him. Brandishing anyone who actually would have made the changes needed as crazy and other names seems to work in America. We will meet our Waterloo now. Its just the matter of how.
Immunity to criticism?

Obviously you don't watch Fox News!

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2259 Aug 30, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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"People do indeed have natural skills they are born with; they learn how to apply those natural skills as they grow and develop into adults." There is only one job I can think of where that would be applicable. Prostitution is illegal.
Further contributing to the erasure of America. We speak English in America. Those who immigrate here should be required to learn English. Instead, the burden is once again placed on the wrong people.
So you have no other natural aptitudes other than sex? How sad for you, and not surprising at all.

Maybe THAT is why you were "passed over".

Obviously you've never been to a large metro area or small towns with majority immigrant populations. Many immigrant groups maintained their native languages, including Italians, Germans, Norwegians, etc, etc.

If the new coming majority in America speaks Spanish as their primary language, so be it.

Societies change.

It's just another indication you're a scared old racist white bigot afraid of losing his white privilege.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2260 Aug 30, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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RVT?
Non-registered. I saw no reason to go through the 2 years of schooling just to get registered when I knew it was going to be a temporary job. And the Vets trusted my 20+ years of human medical experience.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2261 Aug 30, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
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True , but that is dodging the issue.
Here is a black man saying the same thing or is he just a Tom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1wf7yqRq5R4XX
No, he's a war criminal.

And it's not "dodging the issue". Parents of all races need to be educated on their responsibilities for educating the children they CHOOSE to bring into this world. If parents understood their role in their child's education, then their children would understand THEIR role in getting an education.

It all comes back to education.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#2262 Aug 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Immunity to criticism?
Obviously you don't watch Fox News!
I spent from about 2003 to 2009 watching MSNBC most of the time. FOX part of the time. When I watched the so called news channels. I stopped watching all of them at the 2010 election. The most nasty and vile comments were by far from MSNBC. Both networks destroyed tea party people. Olbermann was the worse. The MSNBC snickers became to much to bear. The moment of freedom we will never get back lasted but several months before the fledgling party was co opted by the elitist Repubs. Many tea party people who were just regular Joes were destroyed in the primaries and even left to wilt in the general election if they made it that far. For a short period of time the ruling elitists were scared.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2263 Aug 30, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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But I thought Obama was different. He is black, and therefore can do no wrong. What say you?
"Ending tax breaks for oil/coal/gas doesn't mean people have to lose their jobs. Those companies make BILLIONS in profits EVERY MONTH." Hmmmm. So, when you got your hospital successful and profitable, if the government took away tax breaks and the profit margin dropped, would you have kept all the staff? If you did, the corporation would have given you the choice of pay cuts or layoffs. If the corporation did not want to maximize profitability, they would not have offered you the other hospitals to "fix". Would you have taken a pay cut, or let people go? Pay cuts mean people struggle more or change their lifestyle. That also affects who and how many pursue a career in that field.
Nope, I never said Obama can do no wrong because he's black; that's something only a racist such as yourself would say.

Obama is just a politician, like every other politician. He has some good ideas and some bad ideas. I voted for him simply because the other candidates were MUCH MUCH worse.

No, I would not have laid off people or cut their pay just because profit margins dropped. As long as we were profitable, then I was doing my job. I would have looked at ways to increase our profit margin by offering superior service, higher quality of care, etc.

Unlike the gas/oil companies who just hike gas prices 30 cents overnight without providing any additional benefit to the product they are offering. They simply gouge consumers because they know the only other option is to stop driving.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2264 Aug 30, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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I have posted fact after fact after fact...
Where are yours? This may come as a shock to you. Your OPINIONS are not facts!
Neither are yours.

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