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Arizona Ranchers Say Mexican Drug Lords Rule in U.S.

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Boa

Roanoke, VA

#1 Sep 12, 2013
Border Regions:‘We’re Living By the Law Of the Cartels’

American ranchers living along Arizona's southwest border are living in a war zone. They are fed up with a federal government that has failed them and warn that the chaos spilling from Mexico is putting U.S. national security at risk.

On Thursday night's episode of TheBlaze TV's For The Record (8:30 p.m. ET), Arizona's ranchers speak out. They provided TheBlaze with never-before-seen surveillance videos taken from their ranches: proof that their ranches are being seized by drug traffickers and nefarious groups that use the cover of darkness to cross into the United States.

Mary, an Arizona rancher who spoke to TheBlaze on condition of anonymity out of fear of retribution from the drug cartels, warned, "it's not our country anymore."

"We may be bound to the laws of our country," she said. "But we're living by the law of the cartels."
Boa

Roanoke, VA

#2 Sep 12, 2013
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Like Mary, many of the ranchers chose to speak on condition that they not be named out of fear for their lives but their stories are all similar. They say the U.S. is "borderless."

Cochise County Sheriff Mark Dannels, who works closely with the ranchers living along his county's 83-mile border with Mexico, told TheBlaze the increased violence along his community's southern border is an example that the federal government is failing when it comes to border security.

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"Border security should be a primary issue even before we talk about immigration reform," said Dannels, who has spent more than 25 years in law enforcement along the border. "The biggest change from 1984 until current is the violence on the border."

For The Record will take viewers into America's most dangerous borderlands and introduce viewers to brave Americans who battle not only the drug cartel's who trample through their property but a federal government that refuses to acknowledge them.

Joe Weasel, head of the documentary film division for TheBlaze, said "the ranchers we interviewed were fed up with the mainstream media."

"The networks had turned them into race-baiters or anti-immigrant but this isn't the case at all," said Weasel, who is the writer and director of the documentary. "This issue is about smuggling, national security and that their property is being overrun by drug cartels. We have first hand accounts and evidence."

TheBlaze made several trips to Cochise County, Ariz. to report on the continuing problems faced by this American border community. On one of those trips, Dannels pointed to the Huachuca Mountains, noting that a radio relay station -- built by the drug cartels to communicate -- had been replaced several times since his law enforcement officers dismantled the first one.

"The citizens of Cochise County are frustrated, living in danger and many of them have lost faith in the federal government," Dannels said. "This isn't just about them, it's about the national security of our country. It's about protecting everyone from this very real threat."

Sinajuavi
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#3 Sep 12, 2013
The USA can end this problem instantly by ending the War on Drugs, which is an abject failure in any case. LEGALIZE drugs and the profit for the cartels disappears.

Or... we can come up with more lame expensive solutions which don't work and the problem will continue.
Skiff Soap

Athens, GA

#4 Sep 12, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
The USA can end this problem instantly by ending the War on Drugs, which is an abject failure in any case. LEGALIZE drugs and the profit for the cartels disappears.
Or... we can come up with more lame expensive solutions which don't work and the problem will continue.
LEGALIZE? Do you realize what would happen if this is done? The USA have so many computers and now the NSA have been given broad powers and they should be able to consolidate all US Law Enforcement agencies to get the job done. This looks like a set up for the next president(US) to rule with an iron fist.

There's no telling if some of the cartel members are probably dealing with ant-western groups such as Hezbollah. Think about all those billions of dollars these cartels have. What and who are they buying?

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#5 Sep 12, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
The USA can end this problem instantly by ending the War on Drugs, which is an abject failure in any case. LEGALIZE drugs and the profit for the cartels disappears.
Or... we can come up with more lame expensive solutions which don't work and the problem will continue.
Thats like waving a white flag. We ain't gonna turn the other cheek to some dirty wetbacks who have beauregarded their way into our country. We fight back, like any freedom loving, red blooded American would do!

I am getting sick and tired of your traitorous ass posting all this anti American crap on these threads, calling us yanks and gringos in our own damn country!

One thing you never tell us, is that if life in Mexico and Latin America is so grand, and all us yanks are a bunch of hateful racists and fascists, then what the hell are you doing here??? Why don't you go plant bananas in Nicaragua or something, you dumb third world ingrate?
Bob Thompson

Tempe, AZ

#6 Sep 12, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
The USA can end this problem instantly by ending the War on Drugs, which is an abject failure in any case. LEGALIZE drugs and the profit for the cartels disappears.
Or... we can come up with more lame expensive solutions which don't work and the problem will continue.
The War on Drugs is indeed working and working better than anyone would have ever hoped for upon its inception. The proof is that the DEA is now making marijuana busts of up to 50,000 lbs, whereas only twenty years ago, a bust of 1000 lbs of marijuana was considered huge. The DEA confiscated 330,000 marijuana plants in California and arrested 82 suspects with links to Mexican drug cartels. Same with cocaine. In 2007 the DEA made a 20 ton cocaine bust. This amount of cocaine would have never have been confiscated twenty or thirty years ago. So there is the proof that the War on Drugs has been a HUGE success!

satire
Skiff TK

Athens, GA

#7 Sep 12, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats like waving a white flag. We ain't gonna turn the other cheek to some dirty wetbacks who have beauregarded their way into our country. We fight back, like any freedom loving, red blooded American would do!
I am getting sick and tired of your traitorous ass posting all this anti American crap on these threads, calling us yanks and gringos in our own damn country!
One thing you never tell us, is that if life in Mexico and Latin America is so grand, and all us yanks are a bunch of hateful racists and fascists, then what the hell are you doing here??? Why don't you go plant bananas in Nicaragua or something, you dumb third world ingrate?
For once, I would have to agree with you, McAlister.

Sinajuavi
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#8 Sep 12, 2013
Skiff Soap wrote:
<quoted text>
LEGALIZE? Do you realize what would happen if this is done? The USA have so many computers and now the NSA have been given broad powers and they should be able to consolidate all US Law Enforcement agencies to get the job done. This looks like a set up for the next president(US) to rule with an iron fist.
There's no telling if some of the cartel members are probably dealing with ant-western groups such as Hezbollah. Think about all those billions of dollars these cartels have. What and who are they buying?
You make my case for me.

Right, all that money... only possible if drugs are illegal.

Legalization solves the problem instantly.

Consolidate law enforcement, lol... which solves nothing and costs billions. That is a non-solution.

And it is time that you Yanks consider the fate of the Mexican people who are bearing the brunt of this problem created by your gringo drug appetite.

Your drug use nearly destroyed Colombia. It cannot be allowed to destroy Mexico as well.

Sinajuavi
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#9 Sep 12, 2013
Bob Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
The War on Drugs is indeed working and working better than anyone would have ever hoped for upon its inception. The proof is that the DEA is now making marijuana busts of up to 50,000 lbs, whereas only twenty years ago, a bust of 1000 lbs of marijuana was considered huge. The DEA confiscated 330,000 marijuana plants in California and arrested 82 suspects with links to Mexican drug cartels. Same with cocaine. In 2007 the DEA made a 20 ton cocaine bust. This amount of cocaine would have never have been confiscated twenty or thirty years ago. So there is the proof that the War on Drugs has been a HUGE success!
satire
You are truly naive. They can bust x tons of weed and so what? I can go out in any town in the USA and score weed not to mention every other drug you can name.

That's like saying you're succeeding in emptying the ocean because you've taken out 1000 metric tons of water already, lol.

Oh, satire, right. Yep.

Sinajuavi
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#10 Sep 12, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats like waving a white flag. We ain't gonna turn the other cheek to some dirty wetbacks who have beauregarded their way into our country. We fight back, like any freedom loving, red blooded American would do!
I am getting sick and tired of your traitorous ass posting all this anti American crap on these threads, calling us yanks and gringos in our own damn country!
One thing you never tell us, is that if life in Mexico and Latin America is so grand, and all us yanks are a bunch of hateful racists and fascists, then what the hell are you doing here??? Why don't you go plant bananas in Nicaragua or something, you dumb third world ingrate?
Was ending Prohibition white flag, Nazi boy?

You're truly stupid as a goddam rock.

You fight back against lettuce pickers! What a hero you are, boy! You pathetic smarmy little cowardly worthless bastard. I'd love to kick the $hit out of you boy and make sure it takes about 2 days.

You're the traitor, boy. You're a racist. The law of this land is that acting on racism is illegal. Civil Rights Bill. That makes YOU a traitor, boy, and in person I'll give you what a traitorous Nazi racist halfman like you deserves, you cowardly ill-raised gringo salado.

Learn the history of how Latin America has been impoverished by the actions of more powerful nations, mainly Spain, France, UK and the U$A, boy. That's you, gringo pig.

F U. Come see me, boy. I'll straighten out your problem most definitively.

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#11 Sep 12, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Was ending Prohibition white flag, Nazi boy?
You're truly stupid as a goddam rock.
You fight back against lettuce pickers! What a hero you are, boy! You pathetic smarmy little cowardly worthless bastard. I'd love to kick the $hit out of you boy and make sure it takes about 2 days.
You're the traitor, boy. You're a racist. The law of this land is that acting on racism is illegal. Civil Rights Bill. That makes YOU a traitor, boy, and in person I'll give you what a traitorous Nazi racist halfman like you deserves, you cowardly ill-raised gringo salado.
Learn the history of how Latin America has been impoverished by the actions of more powerful nations, mainly Spain, France, UK and the U$A, boy. That's you, gringo pig.
F U. Come see me, boy. I'll straighten out your problem most definitively.
Hell no, prohibition was not white flag. We were stopping the production and sale of booze amongst ourselves.

Here we are dealing foreigners who are here illegally and coducting crimnal business on our land, and intimidating our people. Can you not grasp the distinction, you melon headed moron?

Claims of racism fall empty, I'm afraid. You have shown that you hate Anglos and Mulsims and Puerto Ricans. Me, I love my country and want the dregs like you, out!

Fighting against drug cartels who have set up shop in our country is not protected by the Civil Rights Bill, you sorry ass hispanic simian! I never heard of anything more ridcilous in my life.

You shouldn't have a right breathe you penniless, guacamole eating simpleton!
Skiff TK

Athens, GA

#12 Sep 12, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
You make my case for me.
Right, all that money... only possible if drugs are illegal.
Legalization solves the problem instantly.
Consolidate law enforcement, lol... which solves nothing and costs billions. That is a non-solution.
Might as well do it while we got the $$$.
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
And it is time that you Yanks consider the fate of the Mexican people who are bearing the brunt of this problem created by your gringo drug appetite.
Your drug use nearly destroyed Colombia. It cannot be allowed to destroy Mexico as well.
Then if it's so bad for them, then why don't they rise up and eradicate these cartels????????
Bob Roberts

Tempe, AZ

#13 Sep 12, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell no, prohibition was not white flag. We were stopping the production and sale of booze amongst ourselves.
Here we are dealing foreigners who are here illegally and coducting crimnal business on our land, and intimidating our people. Can you not grasp the distinction, you melon headed moron?
Claims of racism fall empty, I'm afraid. You have shown that you hate Anglos and Mulsims and Puerto Ricans. Me, I love my country and want the dregs like you, out!
Fighting against drug cartels who have set up shop in our country is not protected by the Civil Rights Bill, you sorry ass hispanic simian! I never heard of anything more ridcilous in my life.
You shouldn't have a right breathe you penniless, guacamole eating simpleton!
You are asz backwards in your thinking. Every problem you cite is a direct RESULT of the War on Drugs. I could go into detailed logical reasoning as to why I am correct, but I feel it would be a waste of time and energy.

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#14 Sep 12, 2013
Bob Roberts wrote:
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You are asz backwards in your thinking. Every problem you cite is a direct RESULT of the War on Drugs. I could go into detailed logical reasoning as to why I am correct, but I feel it would be a waste of time and energy.
You can't see the forest for the trees. There is a justification for the war on drugs because of the harm they cause and potential for addiction etc. But that isn't even the point here. You have foreign criminals here, that need to be driven out. Legalizing drugs isn't necessarily going to make them change their ways. Not only are they into selling drugs but arms, kidnapping, extortion. Sinjauvi brought up the prohibition which afforded the mafia a very lucrative business but when alcohol was once again legalized did they disband?? No they found other criminal pursiuts to get involve with like prostituion, heroin etc.

Lets get these damn Mexican ganstas out of our contry first, then we can decide whether or not to legalize drugs.

Sinajuavi
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#15 Sep 12, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell no, prohibition was not white flag. We were stopping the production and sale of booze amongst ourselves.
Here we are dealing foreigners who are here illegally and coducting crimnal business on our land, and intimidating our people. Can you not grasp the distinction, you melon headed moron?
Claims of racism fall empty, I'm afraid. You have shown that you hate Anglos and Mulsims and Puerto Ricans. Me, I love my country and want the dregs like you, out!
Fighting against drug cartels who have set up shop in our country is not protected by the Civil Rights Bill, you sorry ass hispanic simian! I never heard of anything more ridcilous in my life.
You shouldn't have a right breathe you penniless, guacamole eating simpleton!
This conversation is about drug cartels, but you're immediately going after illegal immigrants.

That is due to your stinking racism, boy.

Go F yourself.

You're not a patriot, boy, so don't play. You're a racist traitor who in my presence would be bleeding out into the sand.

Sinajuavi
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#16 Sep 12, 2013
Skiff TK wrote:
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Might as well do it while we got the $$$.
<quoted text>
Then if it's so bad for them, then why don't they rise up and eradicate these cartels????????
Damn, you're dumb!

We have the $$$???? LOL!!! Are you aware of the amount of DEFICIT the USA govt has currently? Wake up.

The cartels are powerful. They kill all opposition. How facile for you to tell Mexicans to rise up. Why don't you go take on the cartels, big-mouthed gringo racist pig?

Sinajuavi
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#17 Sep 12, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell no, prohibition was not white flag. We were stopping the production and sale of booze amongst ourselves.
Here we are dealing foreigners who are here illegally and coducting crimnal business on our land, and intimidating our people. Can you not grasp the distinction, you melon headed moron?
Claims of racism fall empty, I'm afraid. You have shown that you hate Anglos and Mulsims and Puerto Ricans. Me, I love my country and want the dregs like you, out!
Fighting against drug cartels who have set up shop in our country is not protected by the Civil Rights Bill, you sorry ass hispanic simian! I never heard of anything more ridcilous in my life.
You shouldn't have a right breathe you penniless, guacamole eating simpleton!
I have yet to find a gringo who doesn't like guacamole, boy.

You need to speak to me in person, racist boy. I do so enjoy torturing racists for 2-3 days before leaving the still-conscious remains to the predators.

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#18 Sep 12, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
This conversation is about drug cartels, but you're immediately going after illegal immigrants.
That is due to your stinking racism, boy.
Go F yourself.
You're not a patriot, boy, so don't play. You're a racist traitor who in my presence would be bleeding out into the sand.
I'm talking about the the arms of the cartels that have set up shop in the south west, that have already started kidnapping and extorting Americans dangerous ruthless criminals, the kind who think you like you, barbaric savages who like to disembowel and behead people with machtes. No surprise that you would rush to their defence, your morals are primitive. Your kind rape women and little boys. You may me sick!

I gurantee you if I were in your presence, your knees would wobble just to look at my massive biceps, each one with a badass tatoo, a tiger on my left and an American eagle on my right. And if I heard any back talk outta you, why I'd clobber ya, pound you into the ground, I'd pulverize ya, make mincemeat out of ya, I'd snap your spine and kick your ass over the moon! I'd tear you a part!

Well not necessarily in that order. But make no mistake it will be brutal!

Sinajuavi
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#19 Sep 12, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't see the forest for the trees. There is a justification for the war on drugs because of the harm they cause and potential for addiction etc. But that isn't even the point here. You have foreign criminals here, that need to be driven out. Legalizing drugs isn't necessarily going to make them change their ways. Not only are they into selling drugs but arms, kidnapping, extortion. Sinjauvi brought up the prohibition which afforded the mafia a very lucrative business but when alcohol was once again legalized did they disband?? No they found other criminal pursiuts to get involve with like prostituion, heroin etc.
Lets get these damn Mexican ganstas out of our contry first, then we can decide whether or not to legalize drugs.
Moronic racist scum.

The cartels are in Mexico, not much in the USA, fool.

The cause? 100% gringo drug use.

Let's get all you gringos to stop taking drugs. But since that won't ever happen, the only solution is to legalize the drugs.

Sinajuavi
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#20 Sep 12, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm talking about the the arms of the cartels that have set up shop in the south west, that have already started kidnapping and extorting Americans dangerous ruthless criminals, the kind who think you like you, barbaric savages who like to disembowel and behead people with machtes. No surprise that you would rush to their defence, your morals are primitive. Your kind rape women and little boys. You may me sick!
I gurantee you if I were in your presence, your knees would wobble just to look at my massive biceps, each one with a badass tatoo, a tiger on my left and an American eagle on my right. And if I heard any back talk outta you, why I'd clobber ya, pound you into the ground, I'd pulverize ya, make mincemeat out of ya, I'd snap your spine and kick your ass over the moon! I'd tear you a part!
Well not necessarily in that order. But make no mistake it will be brutal!
LOL!!! You're one comical cowardly racist, boy!

How amusing as you scream in horror at the sight of your own entrails... LOL!!!

I'll make your mama watch, boy. Oh but this is all hypothetical, of course, since you will never come out from behind Mommy's couch.

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