The Atlanta Child Murders or The Murd...

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#95 Feb 20, 2013
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
<quoted text>He may have did it, but its just scary thinking about it.
It is very scary, especially since in one of the examples I gave a white man had managed to break into a boy's apartment, somehow managed to get the boy's number to taught him, and even managed to track him to his grandmother's.

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#96 Feb 20, 2013
Brngthtrth2u wrote:
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Here you go again. Are you really African American? I don't think so. The truth is, there was a secret recording of two men by the FBI that were members of the KKK. They were recorded in the boundaries of areas right next door to Atlanta in Tennessee. The recordings were in detail of how the murders of Daryl Cabrey and another child were committed and left for dead in creeks near a bridge in Decatur. Its also a known fact that two particular officers who were Caucasian were indicated to have botched evidence purposely and had some knowledge of the group responsible for the killings. Although a task force was assigned to investigate the murders, the recordings could not be used as evidence because they were recorded without the knowledge or permission of the recorded individuals. There were many things that went wrong in these cases pointing to at least 6 different people but could not be substantiated because the target individuals would not cooperate. They continued to be monitored by the FBI, thus getting the recording. There may have been some significance to the jailed individual, but with the publics' cry of a arrest, the jailed individual served only as an escape and resolution in an effort to quiet down the media and public from so many botched evidence and tampered with evidence. There was evidence of a conspiracy and the FBI knew who the players were, as more evidence began to build up, it was determined that a faction of the KKK that lived on the borders of Kentucky and Atlanta and surrounding areas were responsible but never brought to trial and at least two or three of those suspected individuals died, and any other trails grew cold after the suspected individuals deceased. I followed those cases very closely, while Wayne Williams paid for all the murders, the FBI contacted the Atlanta Police department and knew there were others involved and transferred what they knew to those administrative people in the police department. Those administrative individuals never followed up with the information and thats where the botched investigation took place. All of this information is a matter of record. You can research on the internet and find everything I have expressed on line. That makes your response invalid.
Sir,

what real Black person (man or woman) can possibly take an ID like sassy and trashy ? None.
This is another faking redneck as there are dime a dozen on Topix.

That being said, many thanks for this so informative criminal affair i have no idea about and never heard before.
The main lesson i personally draw from this is : nothing new under whitey police sun in Amerikkka. i am connecting the lack of interest of the Sanford police department in Florida with the murder of Trayvon Martin.
i can also see how the killing of several young children can be sided as "routine" when the same with white kids would have attract a massive attention of national media even worldwide very quickly.

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#97 Feb 20, 2013
attai1 wrote:
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Sir,
what real Black person (man or woman) can possibly take an ID like sassy and trashy ? None.
This is another faking redneck as there are dime a dozen on Topix.
That being said, many thanks for this so informative criminal affair i have no idea about and never heard before.
The main lesson i personally draw from this is : nothing new under whitey police sun in Amerikkka. i am connecting the lack of interest of the Sanford police department in Florida with the murder of Trayvon Martin.
i can also see how the killing of several young children can be sided as "routine" when the same with white kids would have attract a massive attention of national media even worldwide very quickly.
a whiteboi
I understand everything you have said in this post, and have really thought the same thing. I also agree that the Atlanta Child Murders got investigated with many flaws, but the random mass murders of Caucasian children went past a national debate to involving every political figure and government to enact legislation that will prevent that situation from happening again.

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#98 Feb 20, 2013
During a twenty three month period between 1979 and 1981 over 30 Black children were killed in Atlanta, terrorizing the Afro-American population. In July, 1980, after 14 children had been murdered, the mothers of some of the victims formed the Committee to Stop the Children's Murders.
They pointed out that a systematic campaign of murder was taking place and denounced the Atlanta police for failing to seriously investigate any of the killings.
At first the police denied that there was any connection between the killings. The murders continued, with one child disappearing about every twenty-five days. People who lived in and around the Techwood housing project and the other poor Afro-American neighborhoods where the victims were kidnapped generally assumed that the klan or a similar racist organization was responsible.

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#99 Feb 20, 2013
The evidence that exposes the klan's responsibility for the murders is contained in police documents. The most illuminating of these were enclosed in a package "anonymously" sent to Wayne Williams' lawyers.

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#100 Feb 20, 2013
The evidence centers around the Sanders family. Members of this family belong to the National States Rights Party / New Order of the Ku Klux Klan (NSRP), which is headquartered in Marrieta, an Atlanta suburb. Don Sanders is National Secretary of the NSRP and his father, Carleton, and five of his brothers, Charles, Terry, Ricky, Jerry and James, are members of the organization. The NSRP, headed by J.B. Stoner and Ed Fields, is one of the most rabid racist and fascist organizations in this country.

Members of the Sanders family have long criminal records including convictions for child molestation, murder, burglary, assault and battery, wife beating, statutory rape, armed robbery and narcotics charges. They are long time drug dealers.

The police documents include statements of police agents closely associated with the Sanders family. One of these operatives reported that members of the family told him that the klan was going to execute one Black boy a month, and after killing 20 children they were going to start killing Black women. This informant reported that Charles Sanders had pointed out to him a 14-year-old Black youth named Lubie Geter and said "See that little Black …? I'm going to get him I'm going to kill him I'm going to choke the Black … to death." Several weeks later Geter was found strangled to death.

There is other evidence linking the Sanders family to Lubie Geter's murder. Geter was last seen in a shopping center near where the Sanders family lives. An eyewitness saw Geter get into a car with a tall white man with a jagged scar on his neck on the day he disappeared. Carleton Sanders is tall and has a jagged scar on his neck. Another witness saw Geter on the same day in a blue Ford with two white men. Charles Sanders drove a blue Ford. Hairs of a Siberian husky dog were found on Geter's body. Charles Sanders owned a Siberian husky.
Twelve-year-old Charles Stephens, the 15th victim, was found murdered in a trailer park frequented by members of the Sanders family. On his body caucasian head hairs were found, along with more Siberian husky hairs. Altogether, husky hairs were found on the bodies of at least fifteen of the murdered children.

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#101 Feb 20, 2013
http://www.mltranslations.org/us/Rpo/kkk/kkk1...

J.B. Stoner, a leader of the NSRP, at a klan rally in Wrightsville, GA. in 1980, during the height of the murders carried out by members of his organization.

During this period Stoner was publicly calling for the mass murder of Blacks.

Stoner was released from an Alabama prison in November, 1986 after serving 3 1/2 years of a ten year sentence for bombing a Black church.

Stoner has been personally involved in numerous other violent attacks on Afro-Americans and is implicated in the bombing of the 16th St. Baptist Church in Birmingham in which four young Black girls were killed.

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#102 Feb 20, 2013
The police did not arrest any member of the Sanders family. They allowed them to continue their systematic murders unmolested.
Instead, the greatest concern of police officials was to keep the identity of the murderers secret. Police officers were told that no information about the klan's involvement in the murders could be revealed to anyone outside of a small committee of Atlanta police and GBI officials.
All evidence relating to the klan was kept secret even from the "Joint Task Force", to avoid leaks. GBI Director Phil Peters told officers that absolute secrecy about the klan was imperative to "avoid a race riot."

Meanwhile, Police Commissioner Brown was warding off questions, saying: "There are literally hundreds of things we are doing that we can't talk about. We can't compromise the investigation."

In May, 1981, the "investigation" into the Sanders family was officially closed, the officers involved were reassigned, and the files and vaults containing the evidence were sealed.

On June 19, 1981, a high-level meeting took place at Governor Busbee's mansion to discuss the murders. Present were the governor, top police officials and probably Atlanta Mayor Maynard Jackson and Vice President George Bush.

Although no transcripts of this meeting are available, the events that followed indicate that those present agreed not to arrest the klan murderers and to arrest a Black man instead.
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#103 Feb 20, 2013
This is very good information Aziya Shines. I never knew this.

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#104 Feb 20, 2013
In November, 1980, Ozell Sutton, a representative of the U.S. "Justice" Department's Community Relations Service called the leaders of the Black reformist organizations in Atlanta to a secret meeting. In addition to leaders of the NAACP and the SCLC, representatives of the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce and the Atlanta police department attended the meeting. Sutton advised those in attendance: "There is some perception in the Black community of this [the child killings] as a concerted attack on Blacks. We hope to get the community leaders in a position to allay these fears. Perceptions can cause you as many problems as facts. They must be dealt with affirmatively or they may get out of control." The lackeys of the Anglo-American ruling class faithfully carried out their assignment.

The politically aware people in Atlanta and around the country were not easily fooled. From the beginning they believed that the klan or other racists were responsible. Revolutionary leaders explained to the people that these murders were a systematic campaign of brutality carried out by the ruling class, through the ku klux klan, to terrorize the Afro-American people. The Liberation League and the Movement Against Racism and the Klan published a special joint newspaper about the killings in May, 1981, in which they declared: "The attacks on Atlanta's Black children are the work of organized fascists." They explained: "Given the long history of racist attacks against Black people in Atlanta and Georgia and the current increase in klan and fascist terror throughout the country, the most logical explanation is that the murders are being committed by one or more klansmen or fascists, or by someone under the influence of their ideas." The joint publication specifically pointed to the National States Rights Party as a likely perpetrator of the murders.

The cover up
http://www.mltranslations.org/us/Rpo/kkk/kkk2...

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#105 Feb 20, 2013
Brngthtrth2u wrote:
<quoted text>
Here you go again. Are you really African American? I don't think so. The truth is, there was a secret recording of two men by the FBI that were members of the KKK. They were recorded in the boundaries of areas right next door to Atlanta in Tennessee. The recordings were in detail of how the murders of Daryl Cabrey and another child were committed and left for dead in creeks near a bridge in Decatur. Its also a known fact that two particular officers who were Caucasian were indicated to have botched evidence purposely and had some knowledge of the group responsible for the killings. Although a task force was assigned to investigate the murders, the recordings could not be used as evidence because they were recorded without the knowledge or permission of the recorded individuals. There were many things that went wrong in these cases pointing to at least 6 different people but could not be substantiated because the target individuals would not cooperate. They continued to be monitored by the FBI, thus getting the recording. There may have been some significance to the jailed individual, but with the publics' cry of a arrest, the jailed individual served only as an escape and resolution in an effort to quiet down the media and public from so many botched evidence and tampered with evidence. There was evidence of a conspiracy and the FBI knew who the players were, as more evidence began to build up, it was determined that a faction of the KKK that lived on the borders of Kentucky and Atlanta and surrounding areas were responsible but never brought to trial and at least two or three of those suspected individuals died, and any other trails grew cold after the suspected individuals deceased. I followed those cases very closely, while Wayne Williams paid for all the murders, the FBI contacted the Atlanta Police department and knew there were others involved and transferred what they knew to those administrative people in the police department. Those administrative individuals never followed up with the information and thats where the botched investigation took place. All of this information is a matter of record. You can research on the internet and find everything I have expressed on line. That makes your response invalid.
Brilliant response, Brngthtruth! Thanks for posting that information. I'd never heard of this angle until reading your post.

By the way, Sassyntrashy is a foul, racist white troll of the worst kind. I never respond to it and I always find it a bit odd when other African-American posters respond to it as if it's actually a black poster worth discussing African-American issues with. Big Mistake!

But thanks again for that info about the KKK. Very interesting.

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#106 Feb 20, 2013
attai1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sir,
what real Black person (man or woman) can possibly take an ID like sassy and trashy ? None.
This is another faking redneck as there are dime a dozen on Topix.
That being said, many thanks for this so informative criminal affair i have no idea about and never heard before.
The main lesson i personally draw from this is : nothing new under whitey police sun in Amerikkka. i am connecting the lack of interest of the Sanford police department in Florida with the murder of Trayvon Martin.
i can also see how the killing of several young children can be sided as "routine" when the same with white kids would have attract a massive attention of national media even worldwide very quickly.
a whiteboi
Well too bad they didn't arrest some WM or innocent BM so Wayne could have been left free to murder black boys. I assume that's what you wanted right.

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#107 Feb 20, 2013
This thread is proof of why nobody respect my fellow blacks. Instead of opening your eyes and admitting to yourselves that a killer of innocent blacks were caught you all are still holding out for some innocent WM to be arrest so you can cry "white folks always bothering us".

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#109 Feb 20, 2013
Aziya Shines wrote:
http://www.mltranslations.org/ us/Rpo/kkk/kkk1.htm
J.B. Stoner, a leader of the NSRP, at a klan rally in Wrightsville, GA. in 1980, during the height of the murders carried out by members of his organization.
During this period Stoner was publicly calling for the mass murder of Blacks.
Stoner was released from an Alabama prison in November, 1986 after serving 3 1/2 years of a ten year sentence for bombing a Black church.
Stoner has been personally involved in numerous other violent attacks on Afro-Americans and is implicated in the bombing of the 16th St. Baptist Church in Birmingham in which four young Black girls were killed.
But if they wanted to frame a bm for the murder, why did they pic a bm like Wayne Williams who had no criminal history when there plenty of bm suspects who had criminal histories including that of pedophila?
A bm named Jaime Brooks was seen raping and murdering a black boy named Clifford
http://atlantayouthmurders.blogspot.com/2011/...
The police could have easily pinned the murders on him, especially since he was involved in another sexual assault and knew two other victim, Nathaniel Carter and Michael Mcintosh?
http://atlantayouthmurders.blogspot.com/2011/...

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#110 Feb 20, 2013
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>Well too bad they didn't arrest some WM or innocent BM so Wayne could have been left free to murder black boys. I assume that's what you wanted right.
Other bm should have been arrested.
In the case of Clifford Jones, which I have brought up many times before, a bm named Jaime Brooks was seen luring the boy into his laundromat. He was then seen by a witness, raping the boy with two other bm,cleaning the boy up, and strangling him with a rope.
Three other witnesses saw the same man carry a heavy object wrapped in plastic pass his own dumpster and to another dumpster farther away. That dumpster would be the same dumpster where Clifford's body was found.
Another witness, saw the same man, Jaime Brooks go towards payphones after he had placed the heavy object down. Moments later, the police received a call that there was a body in the area.
When the medical examiner arrived on the scene at 1 am, Aug 21, 1980, he said that Clifford could not have been dead for more than six hours. The Laundromat owner admitted that the boy had been in his laundromat during that time, though he denied the murder.
He failed two polygraph tests
The reasons the police gave for why they failed to arrest the laundromat owner was because they claimed that the witness who saw the murder was retarded and because the found no plastic near the body.
The same Laundromat owner in question lived near the bridge where victim Nathaniel Carter was thrown from and he knew both victims Nathaniel Carter and Michael Mctosh.

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#112 Feb 20, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>But if they wanted to frame a bm for the murder, why did they pic a bm like Wayne Williams who had no criminal history when there plenty of bm suspects who had criminal histories including that of pedophila?
A bm named Jaime Brooks was seen raping and murdering a black boy named Clifford
http://atlantayouthmurders.blogspot.com/2011/...
The police could have easily pinned the murders on him, especially since he was involved in another sexual assault and knew two other victim, Nathaniel Carter and Michael Mcintosh?
http://atlantayouthmurders.blogspot.com/2011/...
from what I've read ppl in the area also knew about the blk guy you keep bringing up. And that's why they don't believe Wayne Williams committed any of those murders. That he was a scapegoat to stop rioting. They say some of those murdered were just regular crimes like the one at the laundromat and wasnt even related to the other murders, but they lumped them all together. Remember he was never convicted or was it ever proven that Williams killed any of those kids, they just said he did to calm the situation and keep folks from rioting.
Also ppl from the area including a mortician said the killings did not stop once Williams was arrested. That's what I read.

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#113 Feb 20, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>But if they wanted to frame a bm for the murder, why did they pic a bm like Wayne Williams who had no criminal history when there plenty of bm suspects who had criminal histories including that of pedophila?
A bm named Jaime Brooks was seen raping and murdering a black boy named Clifford
http://atlantayouthmurders.blogspot.com/2011/...
The police could have easily pinned the murders on him, especially since he was involved in another sexual assault and knew two other victim, Nathaniel Carter and Michael Mcintosh?
http://atlantayouthmurders.blogspot.com/2011/...
poor kid. I read the laundromat guy died in prison of AIDS.

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#116 Feb 20, 2013
I just find it interesting that they had recorded tapes of kkk members that supposedly admitted to their role in some of the killings. And also to an informant claiming they wiped out thousands of generations of n*s

"Decades old wiretaps of conversations between suspected white supremacists that could play a role in the case of convicted killer Wayne Williams likely have been destroyed, a state official said Saturday.

The tapes were withheld from Williams during his 1982 trial. His lawyers have asked for them now that some of the cases of Atlanta's "missing and murdered" children have been reopened.

But they may no longer exist."

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#122 Feb 20, 2013
23 year old Michael Cameron "Mickey" McIntosh a.k.a. Ricky Davis a.k.a. Michael Mathews a.k.a. Mickey Williams (5'3", 116lbs, DOB 1957) lived in a house at 620 Windsor Street near the corner of Glenn Street, inherited from his adoptive mother, Bessie McIntosh. His biological mother was Hazel Matthews/Williams, his foster aunt was Ella Simmons Passmore, and he had four brothers and three sisters. Cap'n Peg's back door was across the street from his home, and he sometimes did odd jobs for them. He served time at the Clark Co. Correctional Institution for burglary and armed robbery (possession of marijuana and attempted rape) and prisons in Reidsville and Putnam County from 1976 to 1979 for theft by receiving stolen property. McIntosh was working for the "Add-A-Man" labor pool at 708 NW Spring Street. He reportedly boxed with Jo Jo Bell and once attended the Challenge School For Boys.


Michael McIntosh left his job at the Milton Ave Foundry (at 162 or 249 Milton Ave, SE) on 24 March and never came back. Police say friends/family saw him as late as April 1st.

25 March- 01 April 1981

Around 25 March 1981, a man who ran an import shop on Bankhead Hwy (US 278) said McIntosh came into his shop crying, having been beat badly. "They gave him $12 and showed him where the nearest MARTA station was. I last saw him headed towards the Chattahoochie."

Hazel Matthews following McIntosh's body
The body of Michael McIntosh was found on the bank of the Chattahoochie by a Fulton County farmer named Jimmy Brown (whose father owned Browns Lake fish farm) below the Campbellton Road bridge.(3/4 mi south of GA-92? midway between Hill and Duncan?)

His body was found naked. Cause of death was undetermined asphyxiation.

20 April 1981

His funeral was held Monday, April 27, 1981 at 11 a.m. at Greater Mount Calvary Baptist Church, 388 Glenn Street, with S.W. Rev. B.J. Johnson, Jr., pastor, presiding, and eulogy by Rev. Mack Simmons, pastor of Welcome All Baptist Church, and interment, Kennedy Memorial Gardens, 2500 River Road, Ellenwood, Ga. Cortege was at 1179 Kipling Street S.E. at 10 a.m. Ivey Bros. Morticians.

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#123 Feb 20, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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Other bm should have been arrested.
In the case of Clifford Jones, which I have brought up many times before, a bm named Jaime Brooks was seen luring the boy into his laundromat. He was then seen by a witness, raping the boy with two other bm,cleaning the boy up, and strangling him with a rope.
Three other witnesses saw the same man carry a heavy object wrapped in plastic pass his own dumpster and to another dumpster farther away. That dumpster would be the same dumpster where Clifford's body was found.
Another witness, saw the same man, Jaime Brooks go towards payphones after he had placed the heavy object down. Moments later, the police received a call that there was a body in the area.
When the medical examiner arrived on the scene at 1 am, Aug 21, 1980, he said that Clifford could not have been dead for more than six hours. The Laundromat owner admitted that the boy had been in his laundromat during that time, though he denied the murder.
He failed two polygraph tests
The reasons the police gave for why they failed to arrest the laundromat owner was because they claimed that the witness who saw the murder was retarded and because the found no plastic near the body.
The same Laundromat owner in question lived near the bridge where victim Nathaniel Carter was thrown from and he knew both victims Nathaniel Carter and Michael Mctosh.
Serial killers are seen as unique because they can commit the murders for years before they are caught if they even get caught. Remember the Zodiac killers has never been caught and let's not forget Jack the ripper.

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