Is racism really about skin color?

Is racism really about skin color?

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#1 Feb 18, 2008
I don't think it is anymore. I think it's about values and conflicting mentalities. Whites fear that Blacks will bring their culture down etc.
Lauren

Coraopolis, PA

#2 Feb 18, 2008
I agree.

I really don't think it was ever about skin color.
I think whites fear blacks coming together and realizing they still have that " slave mentality". Blacks can be very strong when they work together. We've all witnessed it. That's just my opinion.:]]
dirtywhiteboy

Sturgis, MI

#3 Feb 18, 2008
i don't think it was ever about the color of the skin. the difference in skin color was just a way to make it more identifiable.
it's still not about color and in my opinion it's also not about keeping the black man down. any racist people i have talked to feel the way they do because they witnessed one or many stereotypical instances and they identify black people by those stereotypes.

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#4 Feb 18, 2008
dirtywhiteboy wrote:
i don't think it was ever about the color of the skin. the difference in skin color was just a way to make it more identifiable.
it's still not about color and in my opinion it's also not about keeping the black man down. any racist people i have talked to feel the way they do because they witnessed one or many stereotypical instances and they identify black people by those stereotypes.
I have to agree Dirty.

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#5 Feb 19, 2008
dirtywhiteboy wrote:
i don't think it was ever about the color of the skin. the difference in skin color was just a way to make it more identifiable.
it's still not about color and in my opinion it's also not about keeping the black man down..
Then why do blacks think it's all about skin color??

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#6 Feb 19, 2008
I have to take the opposite view. I think that racism, at is core, is primarily about skin color.

Sure, there are cultural differences and class differences that fall in the vicinity of the "race line", but at the end of the day, racialism is about race. Look at the studies that have been done. I watched a PBS special about race a while back and saw something that has stayed with me. A White guy admitted that everytime he shook a Black person's hand, he had the urgent need to wash is hands. He was in tears when he made this admission, and obviously felt ashamed, but still could not change his deep-seated COLOR bias.

Have any of you, Black or White, ever been in an environment comprised mostly of the "other" race and felt a deep, visceral "otherness"? A distinct feeling that you are different and will never be 100% a part of that group, regardless of your personality, intellect, financial status, etc.? It's out there, folks. REAL COLOR-BASED RACISM.

Heck, look at the exit polls for the Democratic Primaries. There are people that when asked "Does a candidates race affect your decision to vote for him/her?" answer affirmatively.

I know it feels good to say you have Black friends if you're White, and White friends, if you're Black...it makes you feel "inclusive" and non-racist and devoid of prejudice. But right under the surface, for many people, there is a color line that is inviolable. Look at people that have Black/White friends but don't "agree" with interracial relationships. THAT IS PREJUDICE BASED ON COLOR. Period. And the demographic make-up of your circle of friends does not change that fact.

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#7 Feb 19, 2008
You people are ignorant as HELL, of course its about skin color. Get out of the box you are in and look at the world. All over the world dark skinned people of every race is looked down upon simply by the color of their skin. If you are to freaking stupid to realize that a white man will get paid up to $20,000 dollars more than you on the same job with the exact same education level (MAN), simply because he is white (white priveledge) then you are an assinie jackass who looks at the world thru rose colored glasses.

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#8 Feb 19, 2008
Lona wrote:
You people are ignorant as HELL, of course its about skin color. Get out of the box you are in and look at the world. All over the world dark skinned people of every race is looked down upon simply by the color of their skin. If you are to freaking stupid to realize that a white man will get paid up to $20,000 dollars more than you on the same job with the exact same education level (MAN), simply because he is white (white priveledge) then you are an assinie jackass who looks at the world thru rose colored glasses.
LMAO!!!

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#9 Feb 19, 2008
Racism is mostly about color here in american. So countrys it's all about money. If you got less money then you don't get any respect or whatever.

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Jungle in Yard

#10 Feb 19, 2008
Racisim is princapaly about Genetic anihalation

Do the math
Whitemale+whitefemale= whitechild
Whitemale+Blackfemale= child of colour
Blackmale+Whitefemale= child of colour

The blackhue is the threat, because the child will be more similar to the blackparent than the white parent, that is the fear, that white racist have

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Jungle in Yard

#11 Feb 19, 2008
look at bob marley, jimmy hendrix, they are the products of IR relationships, yet they still are black, that is the fear
Blessthismess

United States

#12 Feb 19, 2008
The pretext is skin color , but it is ultimately about power. It is not fixed, but fluid and can be negotiated and redefined. In America,it's roots was in slavery when a distinction had to be made between the early European indentured servants and African slaves. The mostly Irish and sometimes Scotch and English indentured servants could easily negotiate their social status through their common European ancestry with the British landowning settlers. The African slaves could not. When settlers, servants, slaves and natives bred together, politically it created a problem. It was about this time consensual relations between servants, slaves and settlers was outlawed (even though it was very common). Racism and segregation became a way to create social order. The "one drop" rule came standard, and eventually you knew who the slave was by their skin color.
just a thought

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#13 Feb 19, 2008
JohnnyQ wrote:
I have to take the opposite view. I think that racism, at is core, is primarily about skin color.
Sure, there are cultural differences and class differences that fall in the vicinity of the "race line", but at the end of the day, racialism is about race. Look at the studies that have been done. I watched a PBS special about race a while back and saw something that has stayed with me. A White guy admitted that everytime he shook a Black person's hand, he had the urgent need to wash is hands. He was in tears when he made this admission, and obviously felt ashamed, but still could not change his deep-seated COLOR bias.
Have any of you, Black or White, ever been in an environment comprised mostly of the "other" race and felt a deep, visceral "otherness"? A distinct feeling that you are different and will never be 100% a part of that group, regardless of your personality, intellect, financial status, etc.? It's out there, folks. REAL COLOR-BASED RACISM.
Heck, look at the exit polls for the Democratic Primaries. There are people that when asked "Does a candidates race affect your decision to vote for him/her?" answer affirmatively.
I know it feels good to say you have Black friends if you're White, and White friends, if you're Black...it makes you feel "inclusive" and non-racist and devoid of prejudice. But right under the surface, for many people, there is a color line that is inviolable. Look at people that have Black/White friends but don't "agree" with interracial relationships. THAT IS PREJUDICE BASED ON COLOR. Period. And the demographic make-up of your circle of friends does not change that fact.
you have some great points. but i have also been in a room with very rich white and black people and felt like a outsider also. i think it's how people identify themselves not how others identify them. because even though i looked every bit the part of being at that gathering with the uppity people, i knew in my heart that i didn't belong in this part of society. same with the rich black people, they was probably feeling the same way because of their skin. so how do these same feelings come from the two opposite sets of people? my opinion it's personal identity.

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#14 Feb 19, 2008
Lona wrote:
You people are ignorant as HELL, of course its about skin color. Get out of the box you are in and look at the world. All over the world dark skinned people of every race is looked down upon simply by the color of their skin. If you are to freaking stupid to realize that a white man will get paid up to $20,000 dollars more than you on the same job with the exact same education level (MAN), simply because he is white (white priveledge) then you are an assinie jackass who looks at the world thru rose colored glasses.
Only the very ignorant racists care about skin color. Racism is about thinking people are intellectually inferior. Thats always been the main issue.

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#15 Feb 19, 2008
just a thought wrote:
<quoted text>you have some great points. but i have also been in a room with very rich white and black people and felt like a outsider also. i think it's how people identify themselves not how others identify them. because even though i looked every bit the part of being at that gathering with the uppity people, i knew in my heart that i didn't belong in this part of society. same with the rich black people, they was probably feeling the same way because of their skin. so how do these same feelings come from the two opposite sets of people? my opinion it's personal identity.
I absolutely understand what you are saying. But I think the source of the outsider status that you mention is due to CLASS DISTINCTION. What makes this topic so complex is the fact that the CLASS line overlaps the RACE line. But be assured, they BOTH exist.

If you remove the class distinctions in the example you suggest, the lines will redraw them selves racially.'Tis the way of the human psyche.
Mjolnir

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#17 Feb 19, 2008
Rah360 wrote:
look at bob marley, jimmy hendrix, they are the products of IR relationships, yet they still are black, that is the fear
They are mixed and they look mixed. Only in the USA you have that dubious one-drop rule that was created by white racists to separate white people from people of mixed heritage.

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Urban Decay

#18 Feb 19, 2008
Racism is premised on a lot of things but it is mainly about color, mainly!

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#20 Feb 19, 2008
Flycity wrote:
Racism is premised on a lot of things but it is mainly about color, mainly!
Why would people care about your color?? So whites think you are equal, they just despise you becasue you are darker??

Funny why they would even invent tanning salons isn't it?

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#21 Feb 19, 2008
freediss wrote:
I don't think it is anymore. I think it's about values and conflicting mentalities. Whites fear that Blacks will bring their culture down etc.
People can only "bring you down" if you let them.

Discriminating based on race in professional and personal life simply illustrates neurosis.

A non Black person (or indeed a Black one) cannot look at me or my Black husband and attest to what I believe in, without knowing me.
somaligirl

Boston, MA

#22 Feb 19, 2008
freediss wrote:
I don't think it is anymore. I think it's about values and conflicting mentalities. Whites fear that Blacks will bring their culture down etc.
only AA THING. it is not out side. i think that is AA problem.

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