Are Ethiopians truly Black?

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Since: May 07

Anaheim, CA

#1 Oct 17, 2007
Now, I know this might be a shock to some of you why I am asking this question.. However, I am really struggling with the notion of Ethiopians being classified as Black. Now we know that all Ethiopians have Black in them. And definitely there are ethnic groups in Ethiopia that are definitely Black. But namely the Amhara in Ethiopia which speak a SEMITIC language and to the lesser extent the Oromo people. When I see Ethiopian I can't help to think pure Black, but I think mixed. We know that Arabs sought refuge in Abyssinia and intermixed with the people there. I mean Arabs did a lot of intermixing with the Somalis, if you look at Yemenis some of them look straight up Black.
When I look at Ancient Ethiopian figurines they look lighter than most Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. If we look at Haile Selassie he looks very Arabic, not African. We don't want to make the mistake of saying that Arab is Black because they are different.
Amharic is a distinct language from the Semitic branch unlike Somali, which is Cushitic.
What are your thoughts. I am wondering if others grapple with this also.
Also, are Ethiopians and even us aware of Arab mixture in East Africa and how much it has had an impact on African society?

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Since: Oct 07

Canada

#3 Oct 17, 2007
Ethiopians are not black per se because they have WAY different customs than other blacks in the continent. In Kenya where am from we can spot an Ethiopian by his physical features same with the Somalis. The hair is definitely different from ours and most if not all of Ethiopians and Somalis are Islamic. In school we classified Africans into four groups:
i)Hottentots(hunter gatherers eg. San and KhoiKhoi occupy South african states )

ii)Bantus(they dominate West Africa, Southern Africa and parts of Eastern Africa and known for practising agriculture),

iii)Nilotes(The Sudanese are classified in this category and any other nomadic groups usually very tall and densely dark skinned they occupy East Africa). They are sub divided into three other groups but thats another story.

iv)Cushites these are the Ethiopians, Somalis, Nubians who occupy mostly northern and eastern africa. They are nomadic pastoralists. They are what you called tanned arabs if I may say. If you look at the east indians you'll find that they have some dark looking people in them but they're not black it's just simply because their ancestors were exposed to the sun more than others. If you think about it that could explain how black people came about.The melanin in our skin protects us from the rays of the sun and the tough nappy hair most love to hate was to help prevent moisture from evaporating too quickly.

I hope that answers your question if you spot any fallacies please respond
Apocalypse

Redmond, WA

#4 Oct 17, 2007
Ethiopians are 100% Black.

You just don't believe full blooded Africans an have narrow noses and natural straight hair.

You hold as fact that Africa is the the Mother Land, and that Blacks migrated out of Africa to other continents, but then you contradict yourselves by saying "Ethiopians can't be 100% black because they have straighter noses and hair.

You all hold onto the myth that full blooded Africans can only have flat noses and nappy hair. Get lost with your phoney boloney theories.

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YourMomsHole

Bridgetown, Barbados

#5 Oct 17, 2007
I can't agree Shaka. Culture and heritage does not denote racial purity. Muslim blacks here in Barbados are not considered anything but black Muslims..

Apocalypse they are different type of Africans, I believe the misleading term here may be "black" itself, if you ask "Are Somalis Negroid" you may find less muddy answers, that is of course with the assumption that persons are able to understand that Caucasian does not necessarily mean "white"

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Since: Oct 07

Canada

#6 Oct 17, 2007
Apocalypse wrote:
Ethiopians are 100% Black.
You just don't believe full blooded Africans an have narrow noses and natural straight hair.
You hold as fact that Africa is the the Mother Land, and that Blacks migrated out of Africa to other continents, but then you contradict yourselves by saying "Ethiopians can't be 100% black because they have straighter noses and hair.
You all hold onto the myth that full blooded Africans can only have flat noses and nappy hair. Get lost with your phoney baloney theories.
I don't believe Africa the is mother-land of all races just to correct you or were you refering to blacks? And sorry to burst your bubble but TRUE black africans DO only have flat noses and nappy hair. If you look at the northern states of africa would you consider them full blooded black africans? Ethiopians are not truly black they are as I said tanned arabs just like some east indians would you call those dark east indians black? If you were referring to calling them africans because of location then by all means call them so.

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Since: Oct 07

Canada

#7 Oct 17, 2007
YourMomsHole wrote:
I can't agree Shaka. Culture and heritage does not denote racial purity. Muslim blacks here in Barbados are not considered anything but black Muslims..
I agree to some extent but we all know that most black people are either christian or practice the traditional african religious beliefs. Islam isn't as popular in the black community as it is in the Arab world.
Apocalypse

United States

#8 Oct 17, 2007
ShaKA_Zulu wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe Africa the is mother-land of all races just to correct you or were you refering to blacks?
So what do you believe? That all "colored people" came from White man's genes out of Africa? You're not making any sense.
C-Bisquit

Tarzana, CA

#9 Oct 17, 2007
Here we go again anybody who thinks ethiopians are anything but black are mentally handicapped and should seek help. This another divide and conquer thread just let it go.

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Since: Oct 07

Canada

#10 Oct 17, 2007
Apocalypse wrote:
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So what do you believe? That all "colored people" came from White man's genes out of Africa? You're not making any sense.
No I believe that we all came from somewhere in the mid-east ie the bible story i don't believe in the notion of evolution. Plus i think white people are albino recessive forms of the arabs/jews/semites. These semites were the original people then from there black/red/asian/white people came to be thats why i high demographic rate of humans existed in asia.

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Since: Oct 07

Canada

#11 Oct 17, 2007
C-Bisquit wrote:
Here we go again anybody who thinks ethiopians are anything but black are mentally handicapped and should seek help. This another divide and conquer thread just let it go.
Instead of giving baseless insults why don't you give me proof.
smitty

San Antonio, TX

#13 Oct 17, 2007
ShaKA_Zulu wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe Africa the is mother-land of all races just to correct you or were you refering to blacks? And sorry to burst your bubble but TRUE black africans DO only have flat noses and nappy hair. If you look at the northern states of africa would you consider them full blooded black africans? Ethiopians are not truly black they are as I said tanned arabs just like some east indians would you call those dark east indians black? If you were referring to calling them africans because of location then by all means call them so.
ETHIOPIANS ARE BLACK PEOPLE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT
C-Bisquit

Tarzana, CA

#14 Oct 17, 2007
ShaKA_Zulu wrote:
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Instead of giving baseless insults why don't you give me proof.
Proof n*@@a do I look like your f**kin teacher, ask any ethiopian and they will tell your there black you dumbass ret*rd. What part of them isnt black, n*@@a since you think they are not black why dont try proving they are not f***in idiot.
easy20

United States

#15 Oct 17, 2007
C-Bisquit wrote:
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Proof n*@@a do I look like your f**kin teacher, ask any ethiopian and they will tell your there black you dumbass ret*rd. What part of them isnt black, n*@@a since you think they are not black why dont try proving they are not f***in idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =SgTHIC9XmjUXX
great video,that should shut em up!

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Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#16 Oct 17, 2007
ShaKA_Zulu wrote:
Ethiopians are not black per se because they have WAY different customs than other blacks in the continent. In Kenya where am from we can spot an Ethiopian by his physical features same with the Somalis. The hair is definitely different from ours and most if not all of Ethiopians and Somalis are Islamic. In school we classified Africans into four groups:
i)Hottentots(hunter gatherers eg. San and KhoiKhoi occupy South african states )
ii)Bantus(they dominate West Africa, Southern Africa and parts of Eastern Africa and known for practising agriculture),
iii)Nilotes(The Sudanese are classified in this category and any other nomadic groups usually very tall and densely dark skinned they occupy East Africa). They are sub divided into three other groups but thats another story.
iv)Cushites these are the Ethiopians, Somalis, Nubians who occupy mostly northern and eastern africa. They are nomadic pastoralists. They are what you called tanned arabs if I may say. If you look at the east indians you'll find that they have some dark looking people in them but they're not black it's just simply because their ancestors were exposed to the sun more than others. If you think about it that could explain how black people came about.The melanin in our skin protects us from the rays of the sun and the tough nappy hair most love to hate was to help prevent moisture from evaporating too quickly.
I hope that answers your question if you spot any fallacies please respond
Why, are Africans with different features considered non- African or mixed? Asians with dark skin, wide noses, and big lips arenít considered non-Asian or mixed. People are the victims of the climate in which their ancestors lived in. These little differences in facial features are whatís plaguing Africa today. No race of people who live on the same continent looks exactly alike. You have Caucasians with red, blond, black, strait, and curly hair, but no one calls them Non- Caucasians. All people of color suffer from a history of colonization or slavery by Europeans and Arabs, but we must not let there racist ideas stay seeded in our heads. http://video.google.com/videoplay...

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Since: Sep 07

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#17 Oct 17, 2007
Ethiopians are just that
..ethiopians
easy20

United States

#18 Oct 17, 2007
Black Beauty 08 wrote:
Ethiopians are just that
..ethiopians
when you say "ethiopians are just ethiopians",what the hell do you mean by that?they're black,what do you mean"ethiopians are just ethiopians?

Since: May 07

Anaheim, CA

#19 Oct 17, 2007
Apocalypse wrote:
You hold as fact that Africa is the the Mother Land, and that Blacks migrated out of Africa to other continents, but then you contradict yourselves by saying "Ethiopians can't be 100% black because they have straighter noses and hair.
I never held to Africa being the mother land. Also there is more to Ethiopia than just Amhara. So the Ethiopians that aren't mixed would be the Ethiopians that I am talking about!

Since: May 07

Anaheim, CA

#20 Oct 17, 2007
easy20 wrote:
<quoted text>when you say "ethiopians are just ethiopians",what the hell do you mean by that?they're black,what do you mean"ethiopians are just ethiopians?
Hilarious!

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Since: Oct 07

Canada

#21 Oct 17, 2007
ubee wrote:
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Why, are Africans with different features considered non- African or mixed? Asians with dark skin, wide noses, and big lips arenít considered non-Asian or mixed. People are the victims of the climate in which their ancestors lived in. These little differences in facial features are whatís plaguing Africa today. No race of people who live on the same continent looks exactly alike. You have Caucasians with red, blond, black, strait, and curly hair, but no one calls them Non- Caucasians. All people of color suffer from a history of colonization or slavery by Europeans and Arabs, but we must not let there racist ideas stay seeded in our heads. http://video.google.com/videoplay...
There is a difference between color and texture and furthermore they more or less have the same facial features for example can you tell the difference between a brown eyed black haired englishman from an italian or spaniard? I don't think so.
C-Bisquit

Tarzana, CA

#23 Oct 17, 2007

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