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aam will go for any attractive bw so as long as the anglo-caribbean is good looking she's gonna get some attention.
aa and caribbeans have been marrying for much longer than aa/afro-latinos. but last 10 years latinas really became the preferred option for aam. even that afro-latina girl who was one of the children killed at sandy-hook was the daughter of an aam.
Yes but mostly on the east coast and I will say that AAM have been dating latina women long beforr the last ten years.

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i think that's what groups like the nation of islam, and moorish science temple, and black hebrew israelites, and others were trying to do. initiate a cultural revolution by redefining the identity of the aa. and place it within the context of a biblical narrative.
imo, this was/is the right way to go, but unfortunately the message(s), and sometimes the method of its delivery, was flawed to the point were it could never capture and hold on to the collective mind of aa.
i think you can make a very convincing argument that america and aa and the trans-atlantic slave trade are in prophecy. in fact i think it's pretty easy to see for anyone who puts the time in to honestly analyze scripture and review history.
i wrote a couple of long posts a while back breakdown an outline of my own analysis, but for some reason topix removed them.
don't know if you believe in and read the bible. if you do you might find this perspective interesting, or maybe even eye-opening.
Brother Looms, one thing for certain is that if we as a collective are to move beyond our inertia and into the light, this metamorphisis will be undergirthed by a cultural and spirital renewal. The spiritual renewals will administer to our wounded and lost souls and the cultural renewal will once again, give form to us as a functioning, cohesive and synergistic unit of people, but without these two, we would only be trying to cure cancer by putting a band aid on it!

And though I am not a well versed theologian, I would be interested in reading your treatise on prophecy, particularly as it relates to AA; it sounds edifying. And yes, It doesn't suprise me that they removed your post because people often articulate their agendas by what they don't want circulating moreso than what they permit and allow. The name Disaster Looms in probably somewhere jotted down in some small book in case there is ever a revolution...lol

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Bakari Neferu wrote:
Brothers Cogito and Disaster Looms are killin' this thread right now.
I don't even think I can add anything.
Oh' absolutely! i am lovin this!!!

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I think it's only considered self hate if you relentlessly go on a bashing campaign against your own kind. Quite frankly thats only ever done on here. Most the people here who have serious gripes with their counterparts have been hurt emotionally beyond repair. To talk about and downplay your counterpart 24/8 takes real dedication which lets me know there's a real driving force behind such antics.
I don't get why someone has to accidently fall in love with someone from outside their race. People have different traits they deem attractive and attraction is the key to get you to that next step romantically where 1 could fall in love.. if you dont have that level of attraction it just isnt gonna happen and some people are just attracted to other races i cant be mad at that. Its asthetically pleasing to them just as a short woman desirez tall men but yet its not a big issue( well inly to fairguy) no one should be forced to date within their own ethnic group if they dont want to just to please the likes of that group. Because unfortunately your forcing aomething that feels unnatural to one of the participants involved. Thanotjust not fair. And they shouldnt be made to feel weird or outcasted because they dont want to be romantically linked to someone who resembles them in tone. Thats just ignorant..
I agree, that's a perfect explanation of self hate and preference. Nothing at all wrong with preference.. but.. I haven't yet managed to be able to say that 1 particular skin color holds the key to attraction for me.. the closest to a universal type of attraction like that that I would have is brown/dark/light brown skinned women.

But I see beautiful white and asian women as well. Luckily for me my preferences for attraction can be found in any race of women.

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People always act as if Black Americans aren't allowed to have problems.

Why do we have to be the 100% perfect race? We're not allowed to date other races, even though it's blatantly obvious that others races are attracted to us more than we are to them..

Same with blacks.. Non AA blacks are much much more attracted to Black Americans than we are to them.

These dumb standards are comming from races with their own countries were they are the majorities, and yet they are still less successful than Black Americans.

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As we usually do with these types of threads, we have digressed away from the orignial premise, but on a more positive note, I have learned and am continuing to learn that dispite all of our Macro analysis we do of black women, we must never lose sight of or distant ourselves from the INDIVIDUAL black woman.

I myself, have been guilty of allowing this macro analysis to corrupt me on a micro-level and allowed it to unfairly color my perspective of some SINGULAR sister who was not party to or guilty of any of these offenses that we characterize as RELATIONSHIP INHIBITORS.

It is always wise to leverage your experiences in life in guiding you on the pathway to relationship bliss, but we must always reason and discipliine these emotions so that they themselves, do not defraud and rob us of us of our happiness.

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I agree, that's a perfect explanation of self hate and preference. Nothing at all wrong with preference.. but.. I haven't yet managed to be able to say that 1 particular skin color holds the key to attraction for me.. the closest to a universal type of attraction like that that I would have is brown/dark/light brown skinned women.
But I see beautiful white and asian women as well. Luckily for me my preferences for attraction can be found in any race of women.
You indeed are a very lucky man but some of us are asthetically more picky than others... take out the equation of race and think about all the women who like men with wavy hair or grey eyes ... everyone has a weakness that they just melt like butter for... for me im a sucker for tall light eyed men with bangin abs.. regardless of race always been my weakness...

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<quoted text>But my brother, what needs to be variabled into the equation that changes the urgency of now, is the fact that we are now entering a new political and economic dispensation where political and economic redistribution is taking place around the world. Not only is the gulf between the rich and poor widening, but the gulf between them and us is growing exponentially. Remember that most of those issues I mentioned, in some way, shape or form are issues born of a lack of resources, which leads to moral degeneration and collapse, introducing a whole other world of problems.
We have historically hitched our wagons to whites but now their very hegemony is being threathen by the Red dragon of China and the rest of Asia, as they wallow in the fallout from their unsustainable debt crisis and as this redistributin take place, they will not only become less concerned with our issues and more with theirs, but will then do as they have always done.....put us center stage as the root causes of their decline, citing vociferiously and repetitively these statistics as evidence.
So, in the past, we were insulated from the repercussions of our actions, our group lathargicness by their paternal socialism, but in 20 years of so, I see their charitable side winding down, and we will be left to our miserable devices. I know that I may sound like a bit of an alarmist, but I'd rather be that, than an indifferent, clueless pacifist.


I agree Cogito2.

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Jan 16, 2013
 
macguyver wrote:
Maybe its the G word, damn.
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I guess I can't be against a couple who are really in love regardless of their race. But as long as white racist are allowed to oppress black people in this country and call the shots that favor them at our expense, then I am against white men dating black women, especially if they are strangers to me and I know nothing about them. And I would understand black women being against white women dating black man too, I think.
As long as we live under a white systematic racist controlled government, it means non-black men, especially black men, are more likely to settle for the least desirable women of the white race while the white man would have access to the most desirable of all other races of women, including black women as many already see. Common sense tells me that's not fair, and it's a disgrace. I watch all these black ball players and rappers who have pretty white woman, but a lot of these white women are strippers and whores or throw backs from the whites, and all they have is looks...that or they're poor like Nicole Simpson. On the otherhand, you'll see the opposite when it comes to the white man with money. If they have a black wife, it's not going to be just a black woman with a nice body who been around the block, but it will be a black woman with a nice body and some status, maybe even a celebrity herself.
Did anybody see "Roots The Second Generation" over the holidays? I saw one part of an episode, which was the seen with Jasmine Guy chasing her white master around for sex. She's looking all young and fine, but chasing a white man. Then Halle Berry came on the scene. I guess she did her thing with some white man in the movie somewhere down the line. And the black man just looking on, getting what he can get.
But I noticed something different just by watch a little bit of that episode, something I probably wouldn't have felt about 15 or 20 years ago. What I felt was, things really didn't change much from Roots Second Generation to the present day. That or we went backwards in the last 20 years, or both. I heard a talkshow host say the same thing.
These are symptoms of racism and oppression, making black men more likely to be the bottom feeder when it comes to IR dating. I'm not saying every black man with a white wife has the white mans throwback, but I'm saying a white racist government has the potential to create that kind of condition for a lot of black men when it comes to dating interracial. Again, just look at those black ball palyers, and they're supposed to be the lucky ones.
This how it is when the oppressor, who practices white racism, doesn't give the oppressed total freedom after captivity. He may let you sleep with white women, but he'll make sure enough of us get the worst, and enough of them get the best. That's they way it's always been for former slaves who aren't granted total freedom. The only way we could be totally free is to be treated like all others who were once under captivity. And that is, to be given their own peice of land, and some resources. Our forty acres and a mule would be a good start.
Gross. Your WHOLE post was not being able to SLEEP with QUALITY whites! So the SOLE root of your problem is that racism/oppression is STOPPING you from sleeping with the white chicks you WANT? smh. If that's the case then I'm GLAD whites are practicing racism/oppression against you! Maybe they know this about you?

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What can you expect from a group of women who were made fun of, insulted, etc. since childhood by Black men and Black boys? Little Black girls are tormented daily with horrid name calling;, Blackie, darkie, tar baby, coal, just to name a few, by little black boys.

In high school BW, dark skinned BW in particular, are always on the shut out, rejected list. Seldom being asked out. Going to the prom with her brother/cousin/best friend.

In early adulthood, in the workplace, White men begin to notice her. He is kind, soft-spoken, considerate. He seems to enjoy her company. He likes being around her. He calls her "beautiful"..... She's never been called beautiful....until now.
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Who do you think this Black woman is going to fall in love with? The verbally offensive BM, or the kind soft spoken White man.

Black men.....treat ALL Black women with dignity.

Black women....treat ALL Black men with dignity.

The enemy has convinced us that our men and women aren't worthy of the best.

How could you let this happen? Why are you assisting him in his quest to destroy the Black race? Slavery was abolished 150 years ago, yet we remain slaves in our thinking. I mean....dayummm

I'm not pro or con IR hook ups.....just saying.
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Why is the quality of IR with whites even important to BP? Are Black actually fighting racism and oppression in order to have freedom to secure a better grade White partner?
BINGO!!!!!! I JUST finished telling the previous poster this!!! I don't even think he realizes he revealed his TRUE feelings on wanting to remove recism/oppresion. He wants to be able to SLEEP with QUUALITY whites. smh and lol. WOW just wow. You better believe MANY bm are thinking just like him!
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Unbelievable wrote:
<quoted text>It's just unbelievable that the concern is to not keep quality BP together and not go IR, but to be worthy enough to get quality whites/etc.. I can recall "Lion" posting about BM "need" to up their incomes in order to attractive a better grade of WW...not to upgrade the BM's position in the world with his own race of women and children..and speaking of WW. I have not seen them being addressed concerning their racial & financial discrimination against BM..it all still falls back on the WM and his system..and not WW finding BM good enough for them without a certain amount of wealth without being called gold diggers.. Why are BM willing to "buy" WW?
You must be white? Because your making too much sense! lol. Of course it falls back on the white man. BM are secretly in COMPETITION with white men. Black man LUSTS and LOVES white female. She has a level of trust with BM and in the black community that the white man will NEVER have! She can practice racism against HIM and his people behind his back, and he WILL still give her a free "pass" quite pathetic! EH? Unfortunately it's a combination of LACKING in intelligence, Self HATRED, and no self RESPECT. Because
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DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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i'm pretty sure bm in irr could care less bout what bw are doing.
it's the bm who still feel connected to bw and consider her 'their women' who have a problem with it.
He didn't ASK you any of that! He JUST told you he's not interested in AA and IR. He didn't want you to even MENTION ir. YET you STILL went on to talk about IR. THAT's the POINT he was making, but you missed it.....and you STILL continued to mention AAW
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Good News wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting link...
and it's not often do you hear BM (or even WM) being honest about WW..my only question is...if this is ok for BM?
As I don't see BM taken an issue with WW having high financial standards in order to obtain an attractive WW..in fact..some BM even advocate meeting those standards.. Of course, this all falls down to the fact WW are valued and seen as worthy of a standard of living and BW are not..and when BW dare to require equal treatment she is abused in order to keep her subordinated to White social-economic standard.. Even a comment in this thread comes off to me..that one seek freedom for BM to obtain a better grade of WW/other (like the WM) rather than trying to uplift the BM's position in the world..along with his community...that it is somehow ok (and expected) that BW with black children live in poverty-crime invested areas..
lol. Your NOT going to get a straight answer from these men! Check out "BROWNMAN'S Response to this post below. He STILL diverted from the questions you asked with this post, and even tried to BLAME AAW again! lol What a pathetic group of "men". Simple-minded FREAKS....
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MumRa wrote:
I believe for any sort of relationship to be built up between Black men and Black women. There must be some sort of basic cordial respect for one another.
I was heading into work yesterday, and there was this Black woman ahead of me. The Elevator door open and we were walking to the door. I always let women enter first. So I slowed up to let her in. She was equally slowing up as well. To the point that I had to stop so that she would realize I was waiting for her to walk in. It is as if she never expected a Black man to treat her as a woman and allow her to enter the elevator. When we reached our floor. There was a white guy that was in the elevator with us. He motioned for her to leave first and she had a cool-aid grin and said thank you.
Now I could easily blame her as been some "tom" or maybe she never had Black man do that for her. So she never expected it. But nonsense like that has to end before we can even begin to talk about loving marriages.
Why? MAYBE she NEVER had a black father in the home! Not sure where BM are getting this, but MOST BW grow up with NO fathers in the home! Many also grew up with BM DISRESPECTING them in PUBLIC. So the mis-trust is definitely there. You want her and BW like her to "stop" with that behavior. THEN the LOGICAL reasoning/conclusion is for BM to STOP with THE behavior that PRODUCES that behavior. CAUSE and EFFECT. the BOTTOM line is: BOTH genders are at fault! You and BM like are NOT going to "solve" the communities problems by putting the BLAME all on one gender, especially the WEAKER gender.

P.S. I work in the Airport, and MANY BM when I speak to them have SNARLS on their faces like they don't want to speak. BUT they Will CHEESE all up in Miss ANNE"S face!! Or will break their necks trying to watch Miss Anne WALK by!
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DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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doesn't have to be white, though. lots of afro-descendant women in the americas who don't have that kinda baggage.
i do believe that the aaw's participation in this irr full-on media campaign has crossed a line.
but the smart thing for aam to do is push a very public foreign afro-descendant bw campaign. aam could have the finest diaspora women in the americas if they put just a little effort into it.
BM have been WAGING a full on IR campaign for the LAST 30 yrs. From your music videos to your MOVIES, to your REAL life partners/spouses. Your post is nothing but a bunch of HYPOCRISY babble. If you were truly for the Black American family you would have said something about this a LONG time ago! But no, you WAITED until BW( who were fed-up with BM and their ACTIVE campaign of IR) started talking about IR in the same aggressive format that BM have been actively promoting for the last 30 yrs. I keep telling people Negro men do not understand CAUSE and EFFECT.
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DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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i don't know any bm who've chosen fat ww over beautiful sexy bw. i'm pretty sure attraction is natural, so i find it unlikely someone would deliberately side-step a 9, who was available to'm, so they could get to a 5.
but i definitely agree bm need to step up. in fact the entire civil rights era was bout bm stepping up, so what happened? how did the aa community go from being so organized, united, focused and engaged, to this?
Don't know which town you live in, but it happens ALL the time! STATUS trumps beauty sometimes. Why else would some BM be walking around with 500 lb walruses, walking like they've won a prize?

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Don't know which town you live in, but it happens ALL the time! STATUS trumps beauty sometimes. Why else would some BM be walking around with 500 lb walruses, walking like they've won a prize?
and these men are stupid. And no decent black woman would want such a fool. A,decent black woman who is about her business doesn't want a weak man, no matter what race he is. The black man that sells his soul for some status, hey , them white women can have them. Be my guest! Cuz at the end of the day, status ain't everything.

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<quoted text>Yes but mostly on the east coast and I will say that AAM have been dating latina women long beforr the last ten years.
true aa have been dating and marrying latinos on the EC since they started showing up. but you always saw more aam with ww, at least up til recently. but that's flipped within the last 10 years or so, from my observation, where latinas seem to have passed ww as the preferred 'option' for bm on the EC.

but not all the latinas are afro-latinas. many are your more olive skin southern european looking types. so i guess you can debate the whiteness of that kinda latina.

btw there are also a lot of aaw with afro-latinos around here, dating and marrying.

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