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Damaged Beyond Repair Black Men.
AA men are not able to meet the challenges of life—get, keep ,or create gainful employment, sustain a reasonably fulfilling and committed relationship with a woman, be good fatherhood material in which the father strives to meet his emotional, financial, and community obligations to his children, participate positively and meaningfully in community life to help develop the community and keep the women and children safe from community predators, etc. In other words, these are the “provide and protect” obligations that are expected from men in most communities and societies. I don’t think that any man should be required to do these things to the 100% but he must be able to do them to a reasonable extent or at least strive to do them in order to be respected as a man. I don’t see nearly enough AA men even trying to meet these challenges.
The bottom line is that many AA men are not long-term committed relationship, marriage, or fatherhood material. And many of the ones who are don’t want to get married or don’t understand why they should commit to a black woman. Yet many AA women “think” that they can “repair” these men, and this is one major reason why many AA girls and women are not more selective in choosing men. In actuality, many AA women have not been taught what the ‘right stuff’ is and/or they will cut an AA man a lot of slack when he doesn’t have it.
AA women still believe that AA men are “our men” and many of them believe we’ve got to “help our men,” and stick by “our black men,” protect them, defend them, excuse them, lower the bar for them, due to what racist whites have done and are still trying to do to black men—or so the women say.
Also, SOME black women still make a whole smorgasbord of excuses for why black men can’t .... or don’t ... I’ve encountered many black mothers, for ex., who, instead of insisting that their black sons follow school rules and achieve, these mothers will blame racism for why the son got suspended or for why he didn’t pass his science test. I hear black men come up with these excuses too for black males not achieving.
On the mate selection front, many black girls and women are STILL being taught to overlook black males’ glaring shortcomings. I hear this everyday. If he didn’t graduate from high school, it’s not his fault. If he gets arrested, it’s not his fault. If he can’t control his anger and beats the woman, it’s not his fault. If he loses the 20th job in 2 years because he won’t get to work on time and cursed out his boss when the boss mentioned his tardiness, it’s not his fault. If he has bad credit, it’s not his fault. If he’s 45 and living at home off his aged parent, it’s not his fault. And even if he’s living in a homeless shelter, or in prison, a college-educated black woman should still give him a chance. LOL!
For women who want those men, I wish you the best,
This would all be more tolerable IF the bulk of black men of more quality SHOWED that they also accepted black women’s shortcomings. I could be wrong and for the sake of lots of black women, I hope I am, but I’d say that most black males do not overlook a black woman’s glaring shortcomings. Some black men these days require that a black woman bring more to the relationship table than they would require from a white woman or other non-black woman.
So where is this blanket of “our black women” type of loyalty from typical black men that I hear and read about from black women about black men. a typical black woman or even black girl tends to be much more loyal to “our black men” and this degree of loyalty doesn’t even come close to being reciprocated. It’s fine to stick by people who stick by you or to be a self-sacrificing woman for anyone who also self-sacrifices for you. This is why I’ve always said to black women to keep your eye on the RECIPROCATION ball.

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Trant is not going to cosign this my sister

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He may not agree with it,but it speaks the truth about AA men and their selfish ways.You can even see it here on topix,they want you to understand their plight in american society,support them unconditionally,but spend 100% of their time finding fault in their women.look at the threads that are started saying positive things about AA women.there are a few AA men that will post something to compliment AA women.Now take a look at the negative threads that are started.black men have no problem agreeing with those post,and the negative posts stay around longer.
This behavior is also displayed in society towards AA women by AA men.African men are different.sure you can find some bad ones in any community.But the bad out weigh the good in our community.you will not find african men,or any other man in modern day society that expect his women and children to be the burden barers of his community.
Those type of men are damaged beyond repair,and some of the young AA women are realizing this.there is no point in wasting your time with them.if you are a successful black woman they will find fault in you,if you are not what they consider a"quality pursuit"they will find fault in you.So you are damned if you do get involved with one of them,regardless of your position in life.
Now,take into consideration the type of future that you want for yourself and your future children.Do you want a man that will love and cherish you,or a man that has a shit load of baggage waiting for some womans door step to dump it out on?If you are into charity then good luck and I hope it works out for you.set standards when picking a man,regardless of his race.no more open door policys just to have any old man.make out an application for him to fill out,this will help you get more information on him.run a background check, and learn more about his family and the type of friends that he spends his time with.This may sound a little out there to some of you,but this is what my husband does for our daughters.It's your life,make wise decisions about it!!!

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There is no such thing as "damaged beyond repair" when it comes to the behaviour of human beings.
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They need to go back to the culture of Africa to find their true self...Africans I have met are soft spoken ,polite, intelligent and very dignified.

We have to realise that if African men are soft in the west they could servive either...everyone hates themand love to oppress them with the excuses that bm are "lazy" "crimminals" "stupid" etc etc.
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I mean could not servive.
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Bibi wrote:
They need to go back to the culture of Africa to find their true self...Africans I have met are soft spoken ,polite, intelligent and very dignified.
We have to realise that if African men are soft in the west they could servive either...everyone hates themand love to oppress them with the excuses that bm are "lazy" "crimminals" "stupid" etc etc.
Good post.
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LOL.

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I know older Black people, 70 years plus and many had husbands/wives and even more had a father and mother and grandparents who were together. Most seemed to even have better neighborhoods. I don't know what happened.

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I Am LLL wrote:
I know older Black people, 70 years plus and many had husbands/wives and even more had a father and mother and grandparents who were together. Most seemed to even have better neighborhoods. I don't know what happened.
Propaganda... the system was set up perfectly
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denita d wrote:
Damaged Beyond Repair Black Men.
AA men are not able to meet the challenges of life—get, keep ,or create gainful employment, sustain a reasonably fulfilling and committed relationship with a woman, be good fatherhood material in which the father strives to meet his emotional, financial, and community obligations to his children, participate positively and meaningfully in community life to help develop the community and keep the women and children safe from community predators, etc. In other words, these are the “provide and protect” obligations that are expected from men in most communities and societies. I don’t think that any man should be required to do these things to the 100% but he must be able to do them to a reasonable extent or at least strive to do them in order to be respected as a man. I don’t see nearly enough AA men even trying to meet these challenges.
The bottom line is that many AA men are not long-term committed relationship, marriage, or fatherhood material. And many of the ones who are don’t want to get married or don’t understand why they should commit to a black woman. Yet many AA women “think” that they can “repair” these men, and this is one major reason why many AA girls and women are not more selective in choosing men. In actuality, many AA women have not been taught what the ‘right stuff’ is and/or they will cut an AA man a lot of slack when he doesn’t have it.
AA women still believe that AA men are “our men” and many of them believe we’ve got to “help our men,” and stick by “our black men,” protect them, defend them, excuse them, lower the bar for them, due to what racist whites have done and are still trying to do to black men—or so the women say.
Also, SOME black women still make a whole smorgasbord of excuses for why black men can’t .... or don’t ... I’ve encountered many black mothers, for ex., who, instead of insisting that their black sons follow school rules and achieve, these mothers will blame racism for why the son got suspended or for why he didn’t pass his science test. I hear black men come up with these excuses too for black males not achieving.
On the mate selection front, many black girls and women are STILL being taught to overlook black males’ glaring shortcomings. I hear this everyday. If he didn’t graduate from high school, it’s not his fault. If he gets arrested, it’s not his fault. If he can’t control his anger and beats the woman, it’s not his fault. If he loses the 20th job in 2 years because he won’t get to work on time and cursed out his boss when the boss mentioned his tardiness, it’s not his fault. If he has bad credit, it’s not his fault. If he’s 45 and living at home off his aged parent, it’s not his fault. And even if he’s living in a homeless shelter, or in prison, a college-educated black woman should still give him a chance. LOL!
For women who want those men, I wish you the best,
This would all be more tolerable IF the bulk of black men of more quality SHOWED that they also accepted black women’s shortcomings. I could be wrong and for the sake of lots of black women, I hope I am, but I’d say that most black males do not overlook a black woman’s glaring shortcomings. Some black men these days require that a black woman bring more to the relationship table than they would require from a white woman or other non-black woman.
So where is this blanket of “our black women” type of loyalty from typical black men that I hear and read about from black women about black men. a typical black woman or even black girl tends to be much more loyal to “our black men” and this degree of loyalty doesn’t even come close to being reciprocated. It’s fine to stick by people who stick by you or to be a self-sacrificing woman for anyone who also self-sacrifices for you. This is why I’ve always said to black women to keep your eye on the RECIPROCATION ball.
You are sooo full of sh*t!

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Nathaniel Turner wrote:
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You are sooo full of sh*t!
No you can't stand to handle the truth!!!

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You're right! BM don't want to be tied down to women like you! They don't want to sign their death warrant(marriage license)!
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denita d wrote:
<quoted text>No you can't stand to handle the truth!!!
Noo you are full of sh!t! You have some serious issues. Your either a white dude (I hope for your sake) or you are a black woman with some serious psychological damage and emotional issues.

I can handle the truth, I am harder on black men than anyone I know personally. But I don't condemn them as if they have no value.

I deal with reality not delusions.

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I dont think that black men are all that damaged. Matter of fact, many black men and women are becoming more and more successful. Many times ppl are considered"damaged" because they keep being told that they are nothing in life and it ruins their self-esteem It really hurts when someone of your own race says it. I was taught that only time you are suppose to look down at someone is when you are helping them get up.

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I dont think that black men are all that damaged. Matter of fact, many black men and women are becoming more and more successful. Many times ppl are considered"damaged" because they keep being told that they are nothing in life and it ruins their self-esteem It really hurts when someone of your own race says it. I was taught that only time you are suppose to look down at someone is when you are helping them get up.
COSIGN!

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Ashland on the 14th wrote:
You're right! BM don't want to be tied down to women like you! They don't want to sign their death warrant(marriage license)!
Look you swine eatting,crusty lipped jiggaboo,you don't have a clue on how to conversate with a AA woman without slinging insults.Your death warrant was already signed the day that you were born a black man.Is that why the police hunt you down like wild animals, and shoot you like a dog in the streets?Your reputation is so bad,if you are caught in a majority white neighborhood,the police are automatically called...because no one trusts you.
You have the worst stats of ANY group of men in the country,hell even the mexican men are out doing your pathetic asses.the african men come here and educate themselves and build communities.What does your kind do....shoot,kill,steal,abandon ,destroy and lie.
and this one is your all time favorite,BLAME ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ON SOMEONE ELSE.WOW....you guys are so STRONG.

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denita d wrote:
<quoted text>Look you swine eatting,crusty lipped jiggaboo,you don't have a clue on how to conversate with a AA woman without slinging insults.Your death warrant was already signed the day that you were born a black man.Is that why the police hunt you down like wild animals, and shoot you like a dog in the streets?Your reputation is so bad,if you are caught in a majority white neighborhood,the police are automatically called...because no one trusts you.
You have the worst stats of ANY group of men in the country,hell even the mexican men are out doing your pathetic asses.the african men come here and educate themselves and build communities.What does your kind do....shoot,kill,steal,abandon ,destroy and lie.
and this one is your all time favorite,BLAME ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ON SOMEONE ELSE.WOW....you guys are so STRONG.
I'm doing just fine slave! I've never been shot by a cop, but you will when he shoots his jiz all over your face! How's that for being the white man's whore? My kind? LOL! They came from your hellish wombs!

Self hate is taught by bitches like you in the black community! Go bleach your skin, and straighten your hair! LOL!

"Your kind" are the killers of the soul! Nowonder your children grow to be so fucked up!
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denita d wrote:
<quoted text>Look you swine eatting,crusty lipped jiggaboo,you don't have a clue on how to conversate with a AA woman without slinging insults.Your death warrant was already signed the day that you were born a black man.Is that why the police hunt you down like wild animals, and shoot you like a dog in the streets?Your reputation is so bad,if you are caught in a majority white neighborhood,the police are automatically called...because no one trusts you.
You have the worst stats of ANY group of men in the country,hell even the mexican men are out doing your pathetic asses.the african men come here and educate themselves and build communities.What does your kind do....shoot,kill,steal,abandon ,destroy and lie.
and this one is your all time favorite,BLAME ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ON SOMEONE ELSE.WOW....you guys are so STRONG.
Sounds like some white dude got you sprung.
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