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#222 Jul 10, 2013
Billy from Philly wrote:
<quoted text> He was High that's all that counts. To what degree does not matter.
Civil wrongful death suit ! It's Never going to happen.
He was not high. That small of an amount means he hasn't smoked in days. A weed high DOES NOT last that long.
Civil suit will happen, Martin family already has a lawyer for it. I hope they wait until zimms NBC suit is over and if he wins it, I hope they take that money.
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#223 Jul 10, 2013
Let this be a Lesson for all Black Boys.
Stay on the Right Side of the Tracks and don't F--k with Whitey.

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#224 Jul 10, 2013
jdmdusa wrote:
soon George will be home.
DOA ?

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#225 Jul 10, 2013
bitterSWEET910 wrote:
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Yep. ITA. They already won a wrongful death suit against the HOA and it looks like they are already planning a civil suit against zimm.
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13...
If Z boy is found innocent(God forbide) I hope the family sues him and his family for every cent they have.(of course the family would have to pay because Z boy is a leech)

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#226 Jul 10, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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So we are supposed to believe that a man who plead guilty to striking a cop, who has a fiancee who filed a restraining order against him, who lost his job for assaulting a woman, had the composure enough to restrain himself against a boy he was chasing and whom he used derogatory words to refer to?
None of what you mention is pertinent to this incident.

To say he was chasing Trayvon is not accurate since Trayvon had first come back to Zimbo's car and circled it, and then disappeared. Zimbo couldn't see him, so couldn't chase him. Trayvon had circled around and then confronted Zimbo. If Trayvon had been running away, he'd have been gone.

Surely nobody believes Zimbo could have outrun Trayvon.

Zimbo was expecting the Police to show up at any moment and would have had no reason to assault Trayvon if they came face to face, and again, if Trayvon was running away, how did he end up face to face with Zimbo?

If you want to list the character deficits of Zimbo, then we'll have to mention also that Trayvon liked to fight, called himself a gangsta, was suspended from school, etc.

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#227 Jul 10, 2013
Zimbo will be acquitted.

There is plenty of evidence that he was being injured by trayvon, that he shot in self-defense.

The only way to make Zimbo guilty of this is if he was the one who initiated the fight. We have no evidence for that. And since Trayvon had come back, obviously was not trying to get away, then the likelihood would be that he started the fight.

Zimbo should have stayed in the car and not entered an area which was dangerous, since trayvon had already implicitly threatened him by circling his car, and Trayvon should not have acted like a punk who can start fights every time he feels dissed.

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#228 Jul 10, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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None of what you mention is pertinent to this incident.
To say he was chasing Trayvon is not accurate since Trayvon had first come back to Zimbo's car and circled it, and then disappeared. Zimbo couldn't see him, so couldn't chase him. Trayvon had circled around and then confronted Zimbo. If Trayvon had been running away, he'd have been gone.
Surely nobody believes Zimbo could have outrun Trayvon.
Zimbo was expecting the Police to show up at any moment and would have had no reason to assault Trayvon if they came face to face, and again, if Trayvon was running away, how did he end up face to face with Zimbo?
If you want to list the character deficits of Zimbo, then we'll have to mention also that Trayvon liked to fight, called himself a gangsta, was suspended from school, etc.
I find it interesting that you and others are so ready to believe Zimms story. He killed a person! Of course his side is going to seem like self defense. There is no evidence that trayvon went to his car. You only have the word of a murderer. You completely disregard jeantels testimony were she says nothing about him going to zimms car and trayvon was telling her step by step.

Jeantel said tray ran til he thought he lost him and continued walking. It was zim that continued to pursue even when tray thought he was safe. When tray saw him again, he ducked between the buildings. That is all we know for sure because that much is corroborated by 2 accounts, zimm and jeantel.

The character deficiencies of trayvon have been repeated throughout this case, all in the media but NOT ONCE have you heard the tv media report the assault on the cop by zimm. NOT ONCE did the prosecutor bring up zimms medications. NOT ONCE did they call a witness to attest to the fact that zimm has anxiety issues. NOT ONCE did tv media, the prosecutors or any witnesses bring up the fact that GZ has a restraining order against him. No, you only hear about trayvons pitfalls. The dead kid that cant defend himself. Pathetic.

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#230 Jul 10, 2013
The "Z" boy didn't take the stand-I wonder why?

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#232 Jul 10, 2013
iamcuriousnow wrote:
The "Z" boy didn't take the stand-I wonder why?
Does'nt have to...as the state neglected to make their case.....Self Defense.....

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#233 Jul 10, 2013
Billy from Philly wrote:
<quoted text> He was High that's all that counts. To what degree does not matter.
Civil wrongful death suit ! It's Never going to happen.
Actually, if you know anything about cannabis or tort law you wouldn't make such ignorant statements.

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#236 Jul 10, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Actually, if you know anything about cannabis or tort law you wouldn't make such ignorant statements.
The cannabis might have actually confused Trayvon finding his way, and outta his frustration....he savagely attacked George Zimmerman....simply for looking at him?......

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#238 Jul 10, 2013
oh-r_____ wrote:
<quoted text>Because he's the defendant, dopey. Have you ever taken the stand? Do you have ANY idea how court works, or are you just parroting the bullchips you've heard Chris Matthews spew?
Just because he's the defendant doesn't mean he can't take the stand and testify in his own behalf unless he knows prosecution will ask him "uncomfortable" questions

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#241 Jul 10, 2013
Also on this clip, the cops lets zimm hear the yelling on the 911 tape and asked zim if he heard the yelling zimm said no. WTF? Cop replayed and asked again, zim said "It doesn't really sound like me"

Damn

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#242 Jul 10, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>The cannabis might have actually confused Trayvon finding his way, and outta his frustration....he savagely attacked George Zimmerman....simply for looking at him?......
Not the minimal amounts found in his system, GB. And although the defense played word games with the ME and got him to say that it COULD have impacted his actions, I find it hard to believe that such trace amounts would have turned him into a paranoid attacker. As I said and will continue to say, GZs recount of the events leading up to the shooting has more holes in it than a round of Swiss cheese. IF one is really paying attention to the evidence (pics of TMs body location after the so called head bashing on concrete, so called bushes TM allegedly jumped out from, severity of injuries to both parties etc.) the only reasonable doubt I see is in GZs story of those events. Sorry, we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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#243 Jul 10, 2013
iamcuriousnow wrote:
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Just because he's the defendant doesn't mean he can't take the stand and testify in his own behalf unless he knows prosecution will ask him "uncomfortable" questions
The judge asked GZ (over Don 'the Yawn' West's objections) whether he had made a decision to take the stand to testify. After much ado, and judge's overruling DWs objections, he said he will NOT be taking the stand (and that is probably the wisest thing he has done throughout this tragic event and its aftermath) but, stand by for a civil wrongful death suit which he will NOT be able to elect not to testify. I hope they televise that phase also. It will prove to be most enlightening, I predict.

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#244 Jul 10, 2013
oh-r_____ wrote:
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I wish your sanitation department lift station mouth would stop pumping.
HA! I bet you do you filthy pink racist bitch. Keep wishing.
Im done with you for now. Dismissed.
Johnny D

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#245 Jul 10, 2013
bitterSWEET910 wrote:
Also on this clip, the cops lets zimm hear the yelling on the 911 tape and asked zim if he heard the yelling zimm said no. WTF? Cop replayed and asked again, zim said "It doesn't really sound like me"
Damn
I see you're still as ignorant as ever and still misrepresenting the facts.

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#246 Jul 10, 2013
bitterSWEET910 wrote:
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I find it interesting that you and others are so ready to believe Zimms story. He killed a person! Of course his side is going to seem like self defense. There is no evidence that trayvon went to his car. You only have the word of a murderer. You completely disregard jeantels testimony were she says nothing about him going to zimms car and trayvon was telling her step by step.
Jeantel said tray ran til he thought he lost him and continued walking. It was zim that continued to pursue even when tray thought he was safe. When tray saw him again, he ducked between the buildings. That is all we know for sure because that much is corroborated by 2 accounts, zimm and jeantel.
The character deficiencies of trayvon have been repeated throughout this case, all in the media but NOT ONCE have you heard the tv media report the assault on the cop by zimm. NOT ONCE did the prosecutor bring up zimms medications. NOT ONCE did they call a witness to attest to the fact that zimm has anxiety issues. NOT ONCE did tv media, the prosecutors or any witnesses bring up the fact that GZ has a restraining order against him. No, you only hear about trayvons pitfalls. The dead kid that cant defend himself. Pathetic.
This still doesn't explain how Zimbo caught up to him, if he was trying to get away.

Both of them have negative personality evidence, but none of it allowed in court. So it is irrelevant legally at this point.

In court they did not bring up Trayvon's pitfalls. None of it, not calling himself a gangsta, posing with a gun, saying he likes to fight, being caught with stolen goods at school, suspended from school for smoking weed, etc.

I teach and am in highschools and I know that many teenage males---black, white, Mexican and whatever---are quite capable of jumping zimbo as he says happened. There's plenty of smartassed kids out there who like to fight and think they're bad asses.

I don't think this is a “racial” issue, or minimally so. It's not a case of some white kluxer shooting down a black kid. It's a confrontation in which the teenager jumped a shorter latino thinking him easy, but didn't know he had a gun. From Zimbo's injuries, it's obvious that Trayvon was trying to hurt him and Zimbo was no unreasonable in fearing serious injury would occur.

Something like the Rodney King case, that's a different matter, clear Police brutality. This case is not so clearcut.

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#247 Jul 10, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>The cannabis might have actually confused Trayvon finding his way, and outta his frustration....he savagely attacked George Zimmerman....simply for looking at him?......
By the level of THC in his blood, trayvon was not high enough to be a paranoid or irritable due to the weed as you suggest.

If he was using weed to regulate his mood, in fact having not smoked any for a few days might have made him irritable, but we have no evidence his use was of that nature.

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#249 Jul 10, 2013
Johnny D wrote:
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I see you're still as ignorant as ever and still misrepresenting the facts.
SMH
Audio proof. dickhead.

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