Will Black Nationalism Reemerge?

Sep 21, 2013 Full story: Free Republic 140

In the summer of 2008, a tidal wave of liberal and youth activists began to carry presidential candidate Barack Obama on a journey leading inexorably to the White House.

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#1 Sep 22, 2013
Yep. I should lead y'all this time.

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#2 Sep 22, 2013
Black nationalism of one kind or another has been around since at least the 1700s. I doubt that it will disappear.

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#3 Sep 22, 2013
For those not clicking on the link at the beginning of this subject, here is a source for information on the subject:

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18974-will...

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#4 Sep 22, 2013
Black Russian wrote:
For those not clicking on the link at the beginning of this subject, here is a source for information on the subject:
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18974-will...
Thanks. I'm glad you found that link which Topix actually pulled as "leftist tripe." I've printed it and emailed it on.

Black nationalism, in its various forms, cannot simply be dismissed. Regardless of what we think of it, it is likely to be around for some time still.

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#5 Sep 22, 2013
Black Nationalism is the only way to save us because we can't find true freedom among this racist white majority.

Some will realize it soon, others only later.
Chuck

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#6 Sep 22, 2013
Darkjaemess wrote:
Black Nationalism is the only way to save us because we can't find true freedom among this racist white majority.
Some will realize it soon, others only later.
Agreed
T-BOS

Atlanta, GA

#7 Sep 22, 2013
Most black males in America today begin to realize they're fighting a losing battle, which explains why there's not really any successors for Sharpton or Jackson once they've died, or have decided to pass the torch. In comment sections of web-based news reports, more black male posters clearly show signs of fear.

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#8 Sep 22, 2013
Darkjaemess wrote:
Black Nationalism is the only way to save us because we can't find true freedom among this racist white majority.
Some will realize it soon, others only later.
But what kind of Black nationalism?

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#9 Sep 22, 2013
Darkjaemess wrote:
Black Nationalism is the only way to save us because we can't find true freedom among this racist white majority.
Some will realize it soon, others only later.
Many Black men and women alike are afflicted with fear and uncertainty, and have been for quite awhile.
But some brothers and sisters refuse to be paralyzed by fear, but strive earnestly for self-determination and freedom--for themselves, for their people, and often for oppressed people everywhere.
And the important thing is not to find some messianic leader to replace Jesse Jackson, but to inspire and empower the MASSES of the people.

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#10 Sep 22, 2013
I think we need to have a more positive segregation, one that holds whites accountable for crimes if we happen to hold our own nations here in America. We cannot obviously live together and hold suspicions toward each other forever when it comes to racial differences.

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#11 Sep 22, 2013
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Many Black men and women alike are afflicted with fear and uncertainty, and have been for quite awhile.
But some brothers and sisters refuse to be paralyzed by fear, but strive earnestly for self-determination and freedom--for themselves, for their people, and often for oppressed people everywhere.
And the important thing is not to find some messianic leader to replace Jesse Jackson, but to inspire and empower the MASSES of the people.
Self-determination would be in the political context a call for a nation of common languages, religious, ethnic identities, etc.

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#12 Sep 22, 2013
There will always be different races and people with same race preferences, we might as well, sorry.
T-BOS

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#14 Sep 22, 2013
Black males indeed seem to be angry and fearful today, more than ever, as American citizens. However, there's other countries available; there's planes available, there's boats available....what exactly are y'all waiting for?

The population of whites alone is at least five times that of black males and that's not expected to change to any noticable significance anytime soon. You're only gonna continue to be miserable here.
T-BOS

Atlanta, GA

#17 Sep 22, 2013
Even in integrated nations - though with a substantial population of black men - such as Zimbabwe or South Africa, they still seem to have painful difficulty controlling other races and society, despite their best efforts. It's not clear how far they think they're gonna get in America.

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#18 Sep 22, 2013
Darkjaemess wrote:
Black Nationalism is the only way to save us because we can't find true freedom among this racist white majority.
Some will realize it soon, others only later.
That was the thinking in Detroit, Michigan too and look at what the Blacks did to Detroit Economically they Bankrupted it because nobody wanted to work and now I found by a neighbor that went up there overheard this Black man complaining that he has to go and get a job because he is loosing his section 8 housing and Food Stamps now and thinks its total BS and she found out what I was talking about the Black Detroit Culture and living off the Government is normal which it is in Detroit.
Cordwainer Trout

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#19 Sep 22, 2013
Most Black males in the US don't have the courage, nor character to stand for what's right. Increased rates of them murdering their own is one example of an apparent genetic inclination to extreme Black on Black violence. It mirrors the horrors in Africa for much longer than any White person was there. Blacks don't have the guts to stand up to eugenics policies decimating their race at the behest of Obama, Jackson and Sharpton. They seem more inclined to kill their unborn babies than any other race. Such is a sign of death ruling human hearts. Black leadership telling Blacks to become queers is much the same. As long as Blacks disregard the actual MLK messages and accept the circus rhetoric of Jackson, Sharpton and Obama, viciousness will continue to rise as their only leadership. Seeing Obama as a Black is tantamount to Black suicide. His policies haven't helped, directed, nor challenged the Black communities, but harmed them. The racism preached in so many Black Churches is devoid of any respect they demand for themselves. "True freedom", "White Privilege"... thought processes devoid of meaning when the majority of Black youth is on Crack and being led by angers without reason and hucksters.

Blacks have more freedom than Whites. They murder and rape people at a 50 to 1 ratio. That's what they've done with their freedom. What they need to do is demand honest preachers and for the race hucksters to be forever forgotten. Blacks have started a race war. If they don't change course, they will be eliminated. They won't be color conscious any longer, because their skin will have fallen off.

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#20 Sep 22, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Blacks have more freedom than Whites. They murder and rape people at a 50 to 1 ratio.
You have a weird concept for freedom, piglet.

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#21 Sep 22, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
It mirrors the horrors in Africa for much longer than any White person was there.
How could you know? You never read a single book on African history, swine douche.

I could say that ancient Africa was way more peaceful according to the writing sources and travellers if compared to Europe in any stage of its history.

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#22 Sep 23, 2013
FRANTZ FANON: WHAT SOCIAL ANALYSIS?

For all his interest in the class issue, Fanon did not conduct a dialectic social analysis of classes. Instead, he focused on the role of class in revolution and liberation. Profoundly knowledgeable about the development of Third World societies, Fanon was a structuralist revolutionary, not a sociologist or a political economist. He preferred to speak of social forces rather than class, although he was profoundly aware of the latter. He saw Third World communities as lacking any affinity with Europe’s capitalist development and industrial revolutions. The aim of Third World countries, he maintained, was not to achieve western liberalism or even socialism, but to resist total containment by a capitalist system with a global agenda. Fanon was particularly adept at describing the colonialist phenomenon and identifying its inherent violence and dehumanizing effect.

As a nationalist revolutionary, Fanon chose not to examine the domestic social composition except to identify the elements of revolution and the susceptibility of various social groups to western domination. He wrote extensively on the situation governed by violence, racism, and alienation, while devising methods for ridding the colonized of the oppressive presence of the “great white error.” This is why Hansen describes Fanon’s classifications as a description of the agents of violence, rather than a categorization of classes. Fanon’s vision was more powerful than his analysis with regards to the social forces in the Third World. In 1961, when he wrote the Wretched of the Earth, the national bourgeoisie, which he–too early suspected of treason – had not yet basically appeared in the sub-Sahara, although it was already taking root in the Arab world.

Being a nationalist, Fanon zealously advocates a process of liberation both in his writings in el-Moudjahid (1958-1961) and his books. As his work took shape, colonialist powers were already offering formal independence to the colonies, imposing “conciliatory” leaderships, and guaranteeing the pattern of exploitation (this pattern continued through the nationalization phase. The economy was handed over to so-called national bourgeoisie but in essence remained under colonial control). Fanon dedicated the strongest chapter of his Wretched of the Earth to the “pitfalls of national consciousness” and the problems of national culture. He did so, in my opinion, because he was afraid of falling into the trap of deformed populism, although he did not escaped altogether unscathed. Fanon’s clash with European democrats and progressive figures was not over the scant support the latter gave to the revolution in Africa and the rest of the Third World. It was over their social dialectic analysis, which Fanon said as irrelevant in a Third World context.
Heen hootie hoo hoo

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#23 Sep 23, 2013
Darkjaemess wrote:
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How could you know? You never read a single book on African history, swine douche.
I could say that ancient Africa was way more peaceful according to the writing sources and travellers if compared to Europe in any stage of its history.
Thats debatable. Africa is more balaknaized than any other continent with a vast amount of different tribes, cultures, lanaguages. You can speak one langauge in a gaving village then tralvel just 50 miles down the road and no one can understand you. There was never anything like the Greek or Roman empires in Africa which brought many people's Europe together under one language, government etc. So Africans was just a lot of different tribes which compete with each other over teritories and resources. The were many small kingdoms that rose and fell. It was Europeans that forced them to draw up political nations.

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