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forks_make_us_fa t

Norman, OK

#1005192 Oct 16, 2013
Lookie what I found...

DailyKos...

"Obamacare will double my monthly premium"

$168 and $150 to...

$302 and $284...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/30/1242... #

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1005193 Oct 16, 2013
So what was achieved??

The Tealiban, who hates Gov't workers, gave them weeks off, but will pay them after the Repugnants capitulate.

So we pay hundreds of thousands of Gov't workers for all their time off due to a Tealiban Gov't shutdown.

Now how stupid is that??

You Tealiban types will pay a severe price for your ignorance.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1005194 Oct 16, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Joe Carter, an Evangelical who is nobody’s idea of a liberal, has a post up on the free-market Acton Institute blog saying that Christians ought to oppose the GOP in this matter. Excerpt:
"The Bible is clear that when an individual incurs a debt they are required, to the best of their ability, to pay what they owe. But does this same principle apply to governments?
Because of the differences in roles and responsibilities not all principles that apply to the individual apply to the state. However, it seems clear this is one principle that clearly applies to both.
In our form of government we elect representatives to act in our behest, including taking on contractual debt obligations. We may not agree with either the levels of spending or the priorities, but these legislators have been duly elected to incur debts on our behalf that we – or our grandchildren — must pay.For this reason, I believe as Christians we should not refuse to pay for the legal obligations that we have authorized.
In policy terms this means we have two general choices: we can raise the debt limit and borrow money needed to cover our shortfall or we can immediately raise taxes in order to generate the revenues necessary to pay the government’s bills.
Member of Congress who are refusing to raise the debt ceiling (or raise taxes) until their ancillary demands are met are acting immorally, since they are refusing to pay the debts they themselves authorized. Hopefully, they are only bluffing and have no real intention of throwing the country into a financial crisis. But even if they are lying about their true intentions, they are threatening to act immorally if they don’t get their way. As Christians we should find such behavior unacceptable. The fact that they are representing us makes such an action intolerable."
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher...
Evangelical Christians are anti-abortion liberals....

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1005195 Oct 16, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Especially when they refused to negotiate and cause it be extended it longer.
Can you say campaign fund raising at the expense of America.
You're a whiny little loser.

Still can't accept responsibility for the Tealiban shutdown that YOU endorsed, I see.

So you whine. wawawawawawawawa
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1005196 Oct 16, 2013
Homer wrote:
The polls say it, the pols say it, the pundits say it. The government shutdown and the brinksmanship over default -- which may or may not be (temporarily) resolved by the time you read this -- has been an unmitigated disaster for the Republican Party. Senator John McCain’s decades-old joke about the popularity of Republicans in Congress --”we’re down to paid staffers and blood relatives”-- is approaching arithmetical accuracy.
Ouch!
the election issue in 2014 will be the ObamaKKKare disaster, not the long-forgotten budget fight....

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1005197 Oct 16, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
The polls show WHY the Obama admin backed away from their "NO negotiations" stance-it wasn't going over well with the public.
It is part of what is happening NOW.
You are right that Obama has hit early the lame duck part of his administration.
the 'lame duck' just finished destroying the Tealiban.

Not bad for a lame duck!! He made the lame nitwits like you look truly foolish.

Continue your whine. wawawawawawawa
Whatever

Gering, NE

#1005198 Oct 16, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>That's an interesting story in USA, not sure how the right wing blogs spun it. It was a state run exchange btw and through persistence Janice Baker, who had some preexisting conditions, was able to become Delaware's first enrollee at a savings of $150 per month vs her previous plan.
She's pleased.
Progressives need to get together and decide if the state ran plans are part of Obamacare or not.

It appears Progressives are saying it is when a few thousand joins one and not if they don't like the figures.
WOW

Bronx, NY

#1005199 Oct 16, 2013
It is worth mentioning that immediately following the adoption of the Financial Services Modernization Act in 1999, the US Congress adopted the Commodity Futures Modernization Act 2000 (CFMA) which essentially “exempted commodity futures trading from regulatory oversight.”

Four major Wall Street financial institutions account for more than 90 percent of the so-called derivative exposure: J.P. Morgan Chase, Citi-Group, Bank America, and Goldman Sachs. These major banks exert a pervasive influence on the conduct of monetary policy, including the debate within the US Congress on the debt ceiling. They are also among the World’s largest speculators.

What is the speculative endgame behind the shutdown and debt default saga?

An aura of uncertainty prevails. People across America are impoverished as a result of the curtailment of “entitlements”, mass protest and civil unrest could erupt. Homeland Security (DHS) is the process of militarizing domestic law enforcement. In a bitter irony, each and all of these economic and social events including political statements and decisions in the US Congress concerning the debt ceiling, the evaluations of the rating agencies, etc. create opportunities for the speculator.

Major speculative operations –feeding on inside information and deception– are likely take place routinely over the next few months as the fiscal and debt default crisis unfolds.

What is diabolical in this process is that major banking conglomerates will not hesitate to destabilize stock, commodity and foreign exchange markets if it serves their interests, namely as a means to appropriate speculative gains resulting from a situation of turmoil and economic crisis, with no concern for the social plight of millions of Americans.

Knowledge and not Bs party politics ok Obama was funded by these people not the man on the street or the old lady with her $5 donation nobody sees her
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#1005200 Oct 16, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Especially when they refused to negotiate and cause it be extended it longer.
Can you say campaign fund raising at the expense of America.
Any proof son?

No, I guess not....

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1005201 Oct 16, 2013
Ted Cruz Will Not Block Vote On Senate Deal

""en. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said Wednesday that he will not block a deal in the Senate to end the shutdown and avert default.

"Of course not, I never intended to delay this vote," Cruz told reporters. "The timing would not impact the outcome."

His comments came as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) announced they had to come to an agreement to open the government until Jan. 15, and extend the debt ceiling through Feb. 7.

Congress needs quick action to avoid hitting the debt limit on Thursday. And in order to bypass the Senate's usual slow, deliberative process, the unanimous consent of every member of the chamber is required to move swiftly."

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I'm figuring McCain got him alone in a Senate elevator and choked the stupidity out of him!!

Tealiban is on the run. Time to eliminate them.

Level 5

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1005202 Oct 16, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
but as i'm sure you know by now, Obamacare will reduce the already falling deficit.
Well, that's what they're counting on. It's also one of the many promises made by Obama back in 2009.

Let's just hope he can keep this one. The other ones have been proven to be lies.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1005203 Oct 16, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Those who buy some health insurance plans on Georgia’s Obamacare exchange won’t get network access to Hamilton Medical Center and most local doctors.
Network providers have agreed with insurance companies to provide services to exchange customers for certain predetermined rates. If a person covered by the exchange is treated by a doctor or a hospital that is in the plan’s network, the person is generally liable only for whatever co-pay and deductible are called for in the person’s plans. If the person seeks treatment outside the network, the person can be liable for much greater expenses. The big exception to that rule is if the person requires treatment at an out-of-network facility because of an emergency.
In northwest Georgia, only two carriers are selling health insurance plans on the exchange: Blue Cross Blue Shield of Georgia and Alliant Health Plans.
Officials at Alliant say exchange customers will have access to all the doctors and hospitals in their regular network including Hamilton and most local doctors. But Blue Cross Blue Shield officials say exchange customers won’t have access to all the providers in its regular network.
“When we set up the plans we have to make sure they are compliant with the (Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act),” said Blue Cross spokesman Bert Kelly.“One of the first things we have to do is make sure they are affordable and sustainable. We made an offer to everyone who was interested in serving in the exchange, and it was Hamilton’s decision not to participate. For us to remain sustainable over time, we have to set prices at a certain level, and we invited providers to join that network. Some chose to. Some chose not to.”
Jeff Myers, president and CEO of Hamilton Health Care System, said the reimbursement offered by Blue Cross for exchange patients was below what it pays in its other networks.
“It was below cost. It was a take-it-or-leave-it offer,” he said.
Most local doctors have also rejected Blue Cross’ terms to be members of its exchange network.
“They were offering us a huge cut in pay to take part in the exchange,” said David McCreery, president of Physicians Health Services, which represents some 150 doctors in Whitfield and Murray counties.
“It would have been almost impossible for doctors to participate without their local hospital, but we would have declined because of the cut in pay anyway,” he said.“Our doctors will be available through Alliant’s exchange policies but not Blue Cross.”
Hamilton isn’t the only hospital in the region that has declined to join Blue Cross’ health care exchange network.
Floyd Medical Center in Rome, Piedmont Mountainside Hospital in Jasper and Polk Medical Center in Cedartown are not currently in the Blue Cross exchange network, according to Kelly.
The key fact is that Blue Cross is paying doctors and hospitals less under exchange plans than under their regular plans. Which patients will get the attention and which will be shuffled to the back of the bus?

"Jeff Myers, president and CEO of Hamilton Health Care System, said the reimbursement offered by Blue Cross for exchange patients was below what it pays in its other networks.

“It was below cost. It was a take-it-or-leave-it offer,” he said.

Most local doctors have also rejected Blue Cross’ terms to be members of its exchange network.

“They were offering us a huge cut in pay to take part in the exchange,” said David McCreery, president of Physicians Health Services, which represents some 150 doctors in Whitfield and Murray counties."

But if you want a doctor from Bangladesh who can't find any other patients, you're in luck on the exchange.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#1005204 Oct 16, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Evangelical Christians are anti-abortion liberals....
That is very true. There ideology closely aligns with Progressiveness viewpoints with that exception.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1005205 Oct 16, 2013
forks_make_us_fat wrote:
Lookie what I found...
DailyKos...
"Obamacare will double my monthly premium"
$168 and $150 to...
$302 and $284...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/30/1242... #
oh good. the Kos is now a reliable source.

Tea party ringleader admits the GOP shut down the government for nothing

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1247...

Boehner raises the white flag in Republican shutdown

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1247...

All eyes on Senate for deal to end Republican shutdown, avoid default

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1247...

it's good that we can see eye to eye on something.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1005206 Oct 16, 2013
This is better than the day after Obama crushed the Magic Mormon!!

The nitwits here are all in their mourning outfits, wailing inconsolably.

It's a delight to see the radicals get their comeuppance.

HAHAHAHAHA
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1005207 Oct 16, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Evangelical Christians are anti-abortion liberals....
who won't be voting for conservatives anymore.

keep up the good work baggers!
WOW

Bronx, NY

#1005209 Oct 16, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
uh.....
Shutdown Poll: No winners but GOP bigger loser than Dems
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/...
and so....
Cruz Blasts Senate But Vows Not To Delay Vote On Deal
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-bl...
CAVED! POLLS! LOSERS!
you getting any of this?
So the race for the obama supporters is to see who is hated the most
OBAMA DEM SHUT DOWN GOV

Winterville, NC

#1005210 Oct 16, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a clueless moron could actually believe that..
Only a
clueless moron like you Ghost Buster thinks it is my man Ted Cruz?
WE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN THINK FOR OURSELVES Know it was Harry Reid
and Obama and Dem were the ones that shut down the gov.Tell a lie and
you will beleive it,Tell the Truth you will not beleive it you Jackass!

Level 5

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1005211 Oct 16, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Evangelical Christians are anti-abortion liberals....
Now Galt...don't start coming across like Lily.

But I'm assuming your blanket assessment includes all those on both sides of the aisle?

What's funny is Islam is the religion most intolerant of abortion and gays.

But Lily would defend Muslims until her last breath.
forks_make_us_fa t

Norman, OK

#1005212 Oct 16, 2013
Liberals shine the light of hope!!!!

"Woman With 15 Kids:“Somebody needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay."

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/women-with-15-...

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