Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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John Galt

Temecula, CA

#908176 May 21, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
This is for Galt; I'll just post the ones most pertinent to rightwingers in relation to fascism:
The 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism:
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Sound familiar Galt?
http://rense.com/general37/fascism.htm
The first six, the ones that you omitted, probably described Obama.

However:

#7 - Gun confiscastion and DHS ammo purchases

#8 - Obama attack on religion

#9 - Government Motors and General Electric

#10 - Labor unions are shrinking

#11 - Education must follow the Democrat party line

#12 - IRS scandal

#13 - Jeff Immelt

#14 - 2012 election

Level 1

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#908177 May 21, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok for the very, very slow morons in the class:
Congress has complete control of the money the government spends. The sole function of the president is to make a suggestion, which is the budget proposal required by law that Obama has ignored every goddam time.
The Democrats took control of all the purse strings of government in January, 2007, with a declining deficit of 0.16 (that's zero point one six) trillion and a total debt of 8.5 trillion (having increased by 3.5 trillion dollars since the Arabs declared war on the United
States on September 11, 2001).
Since, the Democrats have increased the deficit a thousand percent, and doubled the debt.
So how much as Boehner rung up since Jan of 211/. I keep asking & you keep avoiding.

Level 4

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#908178 May 21, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> The Pacific is cooling. The Atlantic is warmer. It is the same weather pattern we had in the fifties.
True. The climate has always gone through patterns of cyclic changes just like the poles shifting.

The liberals must think climate changes and shifting poles began after they were born.

“Come Home America!”

Level 1

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#908179 May 21, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
Creating a lifestyle of dependency by taking away one's dignity is what you call compassion?
A safety net will always be available. Charities and churches will also reach out to those in need.
But the government is not a charity organization. Neither is it the collective conscious of the people.
Once you go there, the next step is a police state. Just ask the Venezuelans. Chavez had a "big heart" too in winning over the people until he took over the media and cofiscated people's businesses in the name of "charity".
Aren't you supposed to be the smart one?
And what 'safety net' are you assuming will always be there? Voluntary charities and churches? This is true up to a point,but as the history of American catastrophic crises(climate change-induced extreme weather events, wars,economic depressions, etc.) have shown voluntary 'charities and churches', private and local relief resources have been overwhelmed and sadly inadequate to meet those dire challenges; only the U S government(under a united American people? has the combined willpower, resources, and power to provide the necessary 'safety net'.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#908180 May 21, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community, relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.
Hostile to liberal democracy, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state and a devotion to a strong leader.
Fascist ideology consistently invoked the primacy of the state. Leaders such as Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany embodied the state and claimed indisputable power.
Sounds a lot like ACORN, the Democrat Party, and Obama.
Sounds just like Bush. Hitler and Mussolini were rightwingers.
You seem confused, go have some coffee.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#908181 May 21, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
"7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses."
Janet Napolitano is procuring massive amounts of weaponry preparing for a large scale war with the American people.
"8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions."
Bullshit.
The government uses any programmed belief to manipulate public opinion. Religion is just one of many programmed beliefs available for use. In the case of the fascist Democrats, they programmed the ocuntry with lies to brainwash the population that the United States is inherently evil, and later (today) use that programmed belief to manipulate public opinion.
Your reference is obviously programming you to treat religion (in particular Christianity, while programming you to absolve Islam) with disdain.
"9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite."
GM? The Fed counterfeiting money? Obama taking over Wall Street banks? Obama creating a so-called "green" industry and economy... a failed corporate system being artificially sustained?
"10. Labor is suppressed...."
Only those labor organizations not alligned with the fascist party seeking power. Lying again.
"11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked."
Disallowing non-progressives to teach in our universities? Teaching fraudulent history and misrepresentation of philosophy? Media assault on any opposition to Obama?
And, you just got to love this one...
Fraudulent elections....
Perhaps you were in a coma when there were 70 precincts just in the Cleveland area of Ohio where the voting machines were programmed to steal 100 percent of the vote. It's easy to find the locations where 100 percent of the vote was stolen. It's impossible to find the locations where the computer programs were written to steal one in three, or one in four votes.
Nobody knows who won the election.
What you have done is prove the Democrats are fascist.
What you've done is prove that you're a dumbass.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#908182 May 21, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> Have You EVER SERVED in the U S Marines or any military service,son? No? I didn't think so.'Col. Jessep: You ever served in an infantry unit son?
DBWriter: No Sir.
Col. Jessep: You ever served in a forward area unit?
DBWriter: No Sir.
Col. Jessep: You ever put your life in another mans hands, and in return, asked him to put his life in yours?
DBWriter: No Sir.
Col. Jessep: We follow orders, we follow orders or people die, it’s that simple. Are we clear?
DBWriter: Yes, Sir.
Col. Jessep: Are we clear!
DBWriter: Crystal.' President Barack H. Obama IS the Commander-in-Chief of ALL U S Armed Forces and no U S Marine or any other American military service member would ignore or refuse an order from the superior , commanding officer. Get it, DBWriter? The President of the United States gives an order and you follow it or people die.'Are we clear?
Heres a hint for all you liberals.
Benghazi wasn't a movie and Oblamer isn't a reality star.
Are we clear?
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#908183 May 21, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text> So how much as Boehner rung up since Jan of 211/. I keep asking & you keep avoiding.
He spent $50 million to vote against Obamacare 37 times. What a guy.
Then, he throws a wedding for his daughter at a local restaurant with a buffet and no open bar; go figure that one out.

“Come Home America!”

Level 1

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#908184 May 21, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community, relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.
Hostile to liberal democracy, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state and a devotion to a strong leader.
Fascist ideology consistently invoked the primacy of the state. Leaders such as Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany embodied the state and claimed indisputable power.
Sounds a lot like ACORN, the Democrat Party, and Obama.
It sounds more like yours,Glenn Beck and FoxNews enamored ,uncritical and loyal admiration for George W Bush and Inc.

Level 1

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#908185 May 21, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok. Let's try this again. Read the post, then respond to the statements in the post with something other than some retorical question about Obama being just as good of a president as Bush, for example.
The subject is the role of the Marine guard at the White House:
You didn't respond to the post. Here it is again for your convenient reference:
The Marine's sole function is to protect the president. Obviously, to any person connected to the real world, this sole function was severely impeded.
Perhaps Obama thinks he doesn't need Marines to protect him. I've got a simple solution. Don't deploy Marines to the White House.
This is nothing more than more evidence that Obama is an elitist with a medieval mentality that categorizes everyone outside of his ruling elite circle as peasants bound to the land.
Since Obama thinks money grows on trees, take some of that free money and hire some butlers.
So why is it elitist for the marine to hold the umbrella for Obama & niit the other Presidents.

Come on, answer it.

Level 4

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#908186 May 21, 2013
Once again...

The government is not a charitable organization. It'a role is to provide a safety net but is not the collective conscious of the people.

Chavez had the same message as Obama and misguided liberals. Once in power, he began confiscating people's businesses in the name of "charity".

Do liberals on here really think that is compassion?

Since: May 13

United States

#908187 May 21, 2013
If you report sometime Obama does not like, you will be spy on by Obama.

He spy on AP as excuse to cover for the REAL target: Fox News.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#908188 May 21, 2013
Lerner, who was moved to Obamacare part of the IRS, previously held Miller's position. Prior to that she was a member of the FEC where her behavior of harassing those organizations not favorable to Progressive is well documented as well as the over-the-top extremes she pushes.

" FEC attorneys continued their intrusion into religious activities by prying into what occurs at Coalition staff prayer meetings, and even who attends the prayer meetings held at the Coalition. This line of questioning was pursued several times. Deponents were also asked to explain what the positions of “intercessory prayer” and “prayer warrior” entailed, what churches speci&#64257;c people belonged, and the church and its location at which a deponent met Dr. Reed."

http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/attachment...

Sound familiar? She continued these tactic at the IRS.

Lerner needs to brought before Congress and she ultimately needs to resign.

Level 1

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#908189 May 21, 2013
Buroc Millhouse Obama wrote:
<quoted text>
That is correct. I meant to say Obama has doubled the debt in four years that Bush made in eight years.
"Obama Is Responsible For “The Most Rapid Increase In The Debt Under Any U.S. President.”“The latest posting by the Treasury Department shows the national debt has now increased $4 trillion on President Obama’s watch. The debt was $10.626 trillion on the day Mr. Obama took office. The latest calculation from Treasury shows the debt has now hit $14.639 trillion. It’s the most rapid increase in the debt under any U.S. president.”(Mark Knoller,“National Debt Has Increased $4 Trillion Under Obama,” CBS News, 8/22/11)"
I have news, 14.639 is NOT two times 10,625.

Bush doubled the debt in 8 years. Obama has not doubled the debt.

My God you right whiners are dumber that sh*t.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#908190 May 21, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
So why is it elitist for the marine to hold the umbrella for Obama & niit the other Presidents.
Come on, answer it.
Careful, the grammar and spelling fairy is lurking near by.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#908191 May 21, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
Once again...
The government is not a charitable organization. It'a role is to provide a safety net but is not the collective conscious of the people.
Chavez had the same message as Obama and misguided liberals. Once in power, he began confiscating people's businesses in the name of "charity".
Do liberals on here really think that is compassion?
Well put.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#908192 May 21, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
True. The climate has always gone through patterns of cyclic changes just like the poles shifting.
The liberals must think climate changes and shifting poles began after they were born.
So who is denying these things? It's your overall thinking that there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that there is manmade global warming that I find scary.

Absolutley no chance there is man-made global warming but I bet you will state very matter-of-factly that their is a God.

Level 1

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#908193 May 21, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama should have asked the Marine to hand him the umbrella, not hold it for him.
So why do you have a problem with Obama having a umbrella held by a serviceman & not the other Presidents?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#908194 May 21, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
I have news, 14.639 is NOT two times 10,625.
Bush doubled the debt in 8 years. Obama has not doubled the debt.
My God you right whiners are dumber that sh*t.
And besides spending doesn't reset to zero when the new guy takes office, well it almost did for Bush until he went out of his fcking mind with spending. Besides most of Obama's spending was to save the country for a massive depression.

Level 1

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#908195 May 21, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Dave, you never responded the other day when it was pointed out that you used the debt for one POTUS and the deficit for the other one and tried to compare them as being the same.
Prove it.

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