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#1 Nov 24, 2012
Okay, I have noticed from my conversations with black men that whenever they are speaking about black women's behavior and we are quick to involve black men- I know it frustrates black men so let me explain why "I" do it:
It does not seem fair to exclude black men from the problems we have nor right. Personally, I do not understand how one can go on and on about the opposite sex without including the other. Of course, unless it solely relates to black women or black men.
Um, I know it frustrates a lot of guys when they are talking about black women and a black woman states, "what about black men and their faults?"
For some reason it seems that one thing cannot be said without the other.
Of course I could be wrong, that is why I created this thread: to figure out if we are right for including black men or are we just being spiteful. So opinions black men and women :P
-AAA-

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#2 Nov 24, 2012
The "Black" Man has to take responsibility for his own actions and stop blaming others.

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#3 Nov 24, 2012
-AAA- wrote:
The "Black" Man has to take responsibility for his own actions and stop blaming others.
Of course, but black women must also. My question is how can we do that when one or the other are not willing to acknowledge nor accept their role in our situation?:P
-AAA-

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#4 Nov 24, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>Of course, but black women must also. My question is how can we do that when one or the other are not willing to acknowledge nor accept their role in our situation?:P
It's not the woman's job to do that, the onus is on Men.

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#5 Nov 24, 2012
-AAA- wrote:
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It's not the woman's job to do that, the onus is on Men.
But what if we women are resisting in some way?:P What if we are not giving our men the support they need?
-AAA-

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#6 Nov 24, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>But what if we women are resisting in some way?:P What if we are not giving our men the support they need?
You have a legitimate reason to resist and not support us.

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#7 Nov 24, 2012
-AAA- wrote:
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You have a legitimate reason to resist and not support us.
:P How will it all fall together if black men are saying the same thing about us black women?

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#8 Nov 24, 2012
-AAA- wrote:
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You have a legitimate reason to resist and not support us.
Why
-AAA-

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#9 Nov 24, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>:P How will it all fall together if black men are saying the same thing about us black women?
Thats why I said the onus is on Black Men.
-AAA-

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#10 Nov 24, 2012
BlkSelenaGomez wrote:
<quoted text>Why
Black Men haven't built anything.

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#11 Nov 24, 2012
Black men built this country and open doors for blacks including other minorities.Whether it be civil rights,human rights,or even entertainment.Either way they have contributed to the growth of this nation.
-AAA-

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#13 Nov 24, 2012
BlkSelenaGomez wrote:
Black men built this country and open doors for blacks including other minorities.Whether it be civil rights,human rights,or even entertainment.Either way they have contributed to the growth of this nation.
No, we really haven't built anything. Any success we've had was undergirded by Non-Black Men.

You have 14 minutes, let Pastor Manning explain it to you better,

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#14 Nov 24, 2012
He isn't a white troll.He a AA male.

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#16 Nov 24, 2012
Black women, Black men were all fcuked up. paonting our fingers at each other has never and will never solve the issues we create. Straight up and down like six o'clock.

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#17 Nov 24, 2012
-AAA- wrote:
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No, we really haven't built anything. Any success we've had was undergirded by Non-Black Men.
You have 14 minutes, let Pastor Manning explain it to you better,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9ZkE3xB8o8AXX
I cant watch it right now but I will later.
-AAA-

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#18 Nov 24, 2012
OOK OOK OOK wrote:
<quoted text>Yes he is. Either that or an extremely uneducated black male. One of the other.
I accept what we are, I try not to make excuses or hold on to lies.
THE RELIC

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#19 Nov 24, 2012
BlkSelenaGomez wrote:
He isn't a white troll.He a AA male.
Look at AAA post.

1. Women don't have a voice in relationships
2. Women have a reason not to support men
3. Bm have not built anything, wm did
4. Pastor Manning

AAA aka is Sassyntrashy a ww
Knowledge

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#20 Nov 24, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
Okay, I have noticed from my conversations with black men that whenever they are speaking about black women's behavior and we are quick to involve black men- I know it frustrates black men so let me explain why "I" do it:
It does not seem fair to exclude black men from the problems we have nor right. Personally, I do not understand how one can go on and on about the opposite sex without including the other. Of course, unless it solely relates to black women or black men.
Um, I know it frustrates a lot of guys when they are talking about black women and a black woman states, "what about black men and their faults?"
For some reason it seems that one thing cannot be said without the other.
Of course I could be wrong, that is why I created this thread: to figure out if we are right for including black men or are we just being spiteful. So opinions black men and women :P
Panma19, there are some problems between the genders that one side of the gender has more involvement in influencing at a greater capacity than the counterpart. What I am saying is that there are some dilemmas that one simply cannot, in a moral and rational sense” hold both gender as “equally” accountable. Allow me to explain a good example to you below where one side of the black American gender is choosing to opt for this behavior because of self-hatred and jealousy of an elevated woman by her real enemy but choose to when called out on it toss African-American men into the equation to shift the criticism as I always commonly see done.

Why do most African-American women prefer blonde wigs?

The black woman’s typical response: Well, yall black men, excuse me, Negros, love white wimmens so much these days that we have no choice but to wear these blonde and gold wigs to try to get yall’s attention these days. And, what about these white wimmens, uh hun? They wear fake hair, get butt injections, hip injections, and lip injections to try to be us black women.

The truth: A lot of African-American women wear fake hair because they are white-washed, brainwashed, self-hating women trying to mimic the visible appearance of what the European and Jewish man in America that they secretly worship have set as the so-called standard of beauty. To shield the truth about themselves, they love to shift their wig wearing agenda onto black men by saying that black men (referring to the collective)“want” white women and thus why they wear that fake junk instead of embracing their natural features as women.

And, speaking of the criticism of black American men, I think it is very clear that the majority of people on this planet hate us, talk badly about us all over the world, and certainly will not hesitate to take a woman or a black woman’s side over us even when it is clear she is in the wrong. So, yes, it does annoy black men when black women ask us questions about themselves, and then when we give the response that black women do not like, they want to shift the focus to black men’s possible involvement in the flaw.

Black American women will never improve the internal relationship with their men as long as they are always seeking to make sure that when their hateful and commonly nasty conduct is called into question that they insist to manage to find a way to “equally” link African-American men to that conduct in some form or fashion. Many black women seem to forget that there are also manipulative, external factors here at play in the black man and black woman relationship that, too, help to keep things as much as the way they are that the majority of black women in this nation have yet to truly realize.

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#21 Nov 24, 2012
Knowledge wrote:
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Panma19, there are some problems between the genders that one side of the gender has more involvement in influencing at a greater capacity than the counterpart. What I am saying is that there are some dilemmas that one simply cannot, in a moral and rational sense” hold both gender as “equally” accountable. Allow me to explain a good example to you below where one side of the black American gender is choosing to opt for this behavior because of self-hatred and jealousy of an elevated woman by her real enemy but choose to when called out on it toss African-American men into the equation to shift the criticism as I always commonly see done.
Why do most African-American women prefer blonde wigs?
The black woman’s typical response: Well, yall black men, excuse me, Negros, love white wimmens so much these days that we have no choice but to wear these blonde and gold wigs to try to get yall’s attention these days. And, what about these white wimmens, uh hun? They wear fake hair, get butt injections, hip injections, and lip injections to try to be us black women.
The truth: A lot of African-American women wear fake hair because they are white-washed, brainwashed, self-hating women trying to mimic the visible appearance of what the European and Jewish man in America that they secretly worship have set as the so-called standard of beauty. To shield the truth about themselves, they love to shift their wig wearing agenda onto black men by saying that black men (referring to the collective)“want” white women and thus why they wear that fake junk instead of embracing their natural features as women.
And, speaking of the criticism of black American men, I think it is very clear that the majority of people on this planet hate us, talk badly about us all over the world, and certainly will not hesitate to take a woman or a black woman’s side over us even when it is clear she is in the wrong. So, yes, it does annoy black men when black women ask us questions about themselves, and then when we give the response that black women do not like, they want to shift the focus to black men’s possible involvement in the flaw.
Black American women will never improve the internal relationship with their men as long as they are always seeking to make sure that when their hateful and commonly nasty conduct is called into question that they insist to manage to find a way to “equally” link African-American men to that conduct in some form or fashion. Many black women seem to forget that there are also manipulative, external factors here at play in the black man and black woman relationship that, too, help to keep things as much as the way they are that the majority of black women in this nation have yet to truly realize.
Yes, I agree with you. But you do not believe black have a hand in the way back women perceive themselves? I mean, it is the same when a dark skin guy who states "when I was in high school black girls would never give me any attention because I was too dark, that is why I chose to marry a white woman or have low self-esteem."
THE RELIC

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#22 Nov 24, 2012
@ knowledge

What you have described involves the ego of AA's and white society polarize us via ego, pride or self esteem.

AAW - ego positive - empowerment
AAM - ego negative - demonize

Regardless of what AA's think about SBT, that is what white society did to AA. Glorify AAW and demonize AAM.

Nobody can deny it because we parrot and reinforce this polarization ourselves

AAW - AAM are not qualified
AAM - AAW have unrealistic expectations

To tell AAW they are the ones that was knocked off track only cause them to go further off track against the AAM.

This is why it is necessary to discredit the bible

1. Satan approached Eve with manipulation of the ego. REBEL AGAINST MAN AND GOD

2. Ww approached AAW with manopulation of the ego. REBEL AGAINST MAN AND GOD

Coincident? Naw! Not twice

Note: SBT constantly demonize AAM and glorify AAW. For AA's to say SBT is crazy is a lie because, we are living it and parroting it thusly:

AAW - AAM not qualified
AAM - AAW have umrealistic expectations

It all comes back to that damn ego, pride and self esteem. The more ego, pride snd self esteem, the easier the manipulation.

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