Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#235 Feb 18, 2014
Ludwig Smirnov wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me where in Africa those things came from.
You can't because none of those are African inventions.
The leaders of the moors were Arab muslims who got most of their knoweldge from the Romans and Greeks.
Now please try not to hate..
And where did the Romans and Greeks get their knowledge if not from Egypt and North Africa? And where did Egypt get her civilization? Further south in Africa by way of the Nile Valley. There is no doubt about it. The romans did not even have a zero. The Arabs had zero in their number system. And every African number system known has a zero.

Without zero, none of the modern computer technology is possible. You sure cannot build a computer based on Roman numerals.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#236 Feb 18, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>And where did the Romans and Greeks get their knowledge if not from Egypt and North Africa? And where did Egypt get her civilization? Further south in Africa by way of the Nile Valley. There is no doubt about it. The romans did not even have a zero. The Arabs had zero in their number system. And every African number system known has a zero.

Without zero, none of the modern computer technology is possible. You sure cannot build a computer based on Roman numerals.
very true.
Sunshine

Freeport, NY

#238 Feb 18, 2014
ptbw forever wrote:
<quoted text>
Brown is in the middle of black and white on the human skin color spectrum. White people don't stand out any more than anyone else.

Black can produce brown, yellow, red ,tan and albino. Pink/white cannot make any skin tone.
Sunshine

Freeport, NY

#239 Feb 18, 2014
ptbw forever wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt you would do that yourself.
Having lighter and thinner skin doesn't make us any less human.
Sunrays are great for receiving vitamin D and activates the pineland Gland. Also great for rejuvenation and energy. Taps into the spiritual connection with the inner you and the universe.

Stop calling us Subhuman and we will stop calling you a alien.
Apollo Creed

Suisun City, CA

#240 Feb 18, 2014
Sunshine wrote:
<quoted text> Sunrays are great for receiving vitamin D and activates the pineland Gland. Also great for rejuvenation and energy. Taps into the spiritual connection with the inner you and the universe.
Stop calling us Subhuman and we will stop calling you a alien.
The pineland gland huh?.
Stupid Thread Gosh

San Jose, CA

#242 Feb 18, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Bro., you telling a racist lie and I am going to have to call you on it. It is so easy to make racist assumptions and believe them without thinking about it. But, I am going to make you think about this one.
First of all, what color were Adam and Eve? Have you ever met them and seem their skin color? Of course not. But people go around all the time talking about "the first humans were black". Maybe. But you sure cannot prove it.
We who are Muslims do not think that way. Adam and Eve were prophets of GOD. As such, we never make images of them, not even in our own minds. For example, Jesus was also a Holy Prophet. Christians make images of Jesus. By doing so, they assign a racial identity of him. give him a skin color. I remember years ago people would debate if Jesus was black or white, etc.
But in Islam, we do not have that problem because we never make images of Jesus. That way he is a prophet to black people as well as to white people. There is no racism in Islam. For example, we get these Christians and Jews who come here talking about Prophet Muhammad was a white man. How do they know? There are no pictures anywhere of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon all the prophets.) Nobody knows what his skin color was. We know he had African blood. But he may have been a white African. We simply do not know.
Back to the Sahara. We know people lived there 200,000 years ago. The evidence that is available would seem to suggest that those peoples 200,000 years ago were Berbers, not black Africans. What else can we think that makes any sense? Look at the Somali people. Look at the Ethiopians. All the peoples in that entire region have brown complexion and soft hair. Some are dark brown and some are light brown. But none of them are black. So what kind of sense does it make to assume that Adam and Eve were black. We know they were Ethiopians. Are Ethiopians black? No. We have more black Egyptians and Libyans than we have black Ethiopians. In fact, I have never seem or heard of a black Ethiopian.
Think.
<quoted text>
Do you have any black people on those walls? I do not think so.
<quoted text>
Usually we do not think of the Saharans as black. The Taureq are dark. But I do not see them as black:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85l1dvjt61...
http://womennewsnetwork.net/wp-content/upload...
http://africa.si.edu/exhibits/tuareg/images/f...
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/3456942-md.jpg
You are the one who is being racist and spreading lies, I am from this region:

https://www.google.com/search...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanem_Empire

The Songhai as well also live in the Sahara, why do you think Kanuri language and Songhai langauge are "Nilo-Saharan". It wasn't until Arabs came to Africa that Africans were pushed down from the Sahara more southward into the Sahel.
Stupid Thread Gosh

San Jose, CA

#243 Feb 18, 2014
Here is more information for the racist Arabs and whites in this thread, this is a documentary of my people, and yes in those wall paintings they were paints of ONLY black people not Arabs.



In addition, Ancient Egypt was completely black:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I don't need you racist Arabs and white people to tell lies to black people who would like to learn more about Africa.
Stupid Thread Gosh

San Jose, CA

#244 Feb 18, 2014
Rocky Balboa wrote:
Aids originated in both africa and haiti. There is also speculation the first person to die from aids in the us was in 1969, a gay male prostitute from st louis. The patient zero is widely thought to have been a gay haitian immigrant in the late 60's. The disease then stopped for some reason until 1984 when that other canadian homo brought it back from africa.
That is just a racist bellicose statement created by white supremacists.
Stupid Thread Gosh

San Jose, CA

#246 Feb 18, 2014
Gun wrote:
<quoted text>No. That's reality.
Obviously either

A. You can't watch a fricken video
B. You are too racist that you are in denial of fact.
Zombie Corpse Rental

San Jose, CA

#247 Feb 18, 2014
Sunshine wrote:
<quoted text> Sunrays are great for receiving vitamin D and activates the pineland Gland. Also great for rejuvenation and energy. Taps into the spiritual connection with the inner you and the universe.
Stop calling us Subhuman and we will stop calling you a alien.
How far is Pineland from Uranus?

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#248 Feb 18, 2014
Stupid Thread Gosh wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the one who is being racist and spreading lies, I am from this region:
https://www.google.com/search...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanem_Empire
The Songhai as well also live in the Sahara, why do you think Kanuri language and Songhai langauge are "Nilo-Saharan". It wasn't until Arabs came to Africa that Africans were pushed down from the Sahara more southward into the Sahel.
Okay. As a Berber, I take it you do not like Arabs. I know there are issues between Arabs and Berbers. My point though is both Arabs and Berbers live in Africa and both have a rightful place there. From the perspective of so-called black Africans, most of us do not know the difference between Arabs and Berbers. You are both non-blacks. And we tend to lump you all into one group who have no right to any part of Africa. I do not agree with that theory. Accordingly, I am anything but a racist.

As far as I know, Arabs came from a mixture of tribes in Arabic with tribes in North Africa. The Mother of the Arab was named Hagar (Peace and Blessings be upon her) She was a daughter of the Pharaoh of Egypt. As such, she was either Berber of black African. Through Hagar, the Arabs earned a claim to be Africans.

Furthermore, Yemen and Somalia share a border. During the time of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) Muslims made the Hijra to Ethiopia. But that was not by any means the first time that Arabs had traveled to Africa. It is also important to note that the First Hijra was followed by Muslims returning to Arabia from Africa. So we see in Islamic History that there was a two-way street. People went to Africa and people came from Africa to Arabia. To this day, a similar situation exist at least between Somalia and Yemen. Many Somalis have close relatives in Yemen and vice versa.

As a Pan-Africanist, I note that Abd al-Nasser was Pan-Arabist. He wanted to Unite all the Arabs. Also, by being in Africa, he wanted to Unite All-Africans. In other words, Pan-Arabism amounts to Pan-Africanism. That means ultimately that Africans and Arabs need to Unite to form one great Super Power making both Arabia and Africa powers to be respected on the world stage. The new leader of Egypt is His Excellency Abd al-Fattah al-Sisi. He is also a Pan-Arabist. Thus, the death of Brother Muamar Qaddafi did nothing to slow the process of African and Arab Unity.

Our duty is to advance the ideal of Unification. We can solve the various problems that exist among the various tribes. But we have to always keep in mind that we are all brothers and sisters. This is especially true when we are all Muslims. Africa Must Unite.
Stupid Thread Gosh

San Jose, CA

#250 Feb 19, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay. As a Berber, I take it you do not like Arabs. I know there are issues between Arabs and Berbers. My point though is both Arabs and Berbers live in Africa and both have a rightful place there. From the perspective of so-called black Africans, most of us do not know the difference between Arabs and Berbers. You are both non-blacks. And we tend to lump you all into one group who have no right to any part of Africa. I do not agree with that theory. Accordingly, I am anything but a racist.
As far as I know, Arabs came from a mixture of tribes in Arabic with tribes in North Africa. The Mother of the Arab was named Hagar (Peace and Blessings be upon her) She was a daughter of the Pharaoh of Egypt. As such, she was either Berber of black African. Through Hagar, the Arabs earned a claim to be Africans.
Furthermore, Yemen and Somalia share a border. During the time of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) Muslims made the Hijra to Ethiopia. But that was not by any means the first time that Arabs had traveled to Africa. It is also important to note that the First Hijra was followed by Muslims returning to Arabia from Africa. So we see in Islamic History that there was a two-way street. People went to Africa and people came from Africa to Arabia. To this day, a similar situation exist at least between Somalia and Yemen. Many Somalis have close relatives in Yemen and vice versa.
As a Pan-Africanist, I note that Abd al-Nasser was Pan-Arabist. He wanted to Unite all the Arabs. Also, by being in Africa, he wanted to Unite All-Africans. In other words, Pan-Arabism amounts to Pan-Africanism. That means ultimately that Africans and Arabs need to Unite to form one great Super Power making both Arabia and Africa powers to be respected on the world stage. The new leader of Egypt is His Excellency Abd al-Fattah al-Sisi. He is also a Pan-Arabist. Thus, the death of Brother Muamar Qaddafi did nothing to slow the process of African and Arab Unity.
Our duty is to advance the ideal of Unification. We can solve the various problems that exist among the various tribes. But we have to always keep in mind that we are all brothers and sisters. This is especially true when we are all Muslims. Africa Must Unite.
First and foremost I am not Berber or Amazigh, I am from a neighbouring ethnic group called the Fulbe. Aka, the ones portrayed in the video I linked that live in the Southern Sahara. I understand that there are some Somalis who do not like being labeled as black and you are one of them. You might be of the Darood clan I do not know.

As far as Berbers go, there are black berbers and white berbers. Most Tamashaq (Touaregs) are black, they are the only ones who speak the Berber language these days. Most other Amazighen have been Arabised, some "Berbers" are mixed and non-black to mixing from people not native to Africa that came from Europe and also the Middle East. It is as simple as that.

Alhamdullah! I know you may be Somali, you may not think of yourself as black and you may hate other black Africans, fine! However, in America and other western countries you are classified as black. Let us not deceive ourselves.

In Africa, we classify ourselves by ethnic grou (e.g. you are Somali, I am Pullo), in the Western world, we are all thrown into one group 'black' whether we like it or not.

Level 6

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#251 Feb 20, 2014
Stupid Thread Gosh wrote:
<quoted text>
First and foremost I am not Berber or Amazigh, I am from a neighbouring ethnic group called the Fulbe. Aka, the ones portrayed in the video I linked that live in the Southern Sahara. I understand that there are some Somalis who do not like being labeled as black and you are one of them. You might be of the Darood clan I do not know.
As far as Berbers go, there are black berbers and white berbers. Most Tamashaq (Touaregs) are black, they are the only ones who speak the Berber language these days. Most other Amazighen have been Arabised, some "Berbers" are mixed and non-black to mixing from people not native to Africa that came from Europe and also the Middle East. It is as simple as that.
Alhamdullah! I know you may be Somali, you may not think of yourself as black and you may hate other black Africans, fine! However, in America and other western countries you are classified as black. Let us not deceive ourselves.
In Africa, we classify ourselves by ethnic grou (e.g. you are Somali, I am Pullo), in the Western world, we are all thrown into one group 'black' whether we like it or not.
i know he is a somali or northen sudaneese the two selfhating black people
the majority of africans hate arabs like they hate white people and don't want any unity with black people
look at mali blacks in the north kill all fake arab touaregs
i am from touareg tribe in southern morocco and i am black the original berbers and touaregs are blacks and white berbers are a results of rape and interracial marriages between romans and black moors.
if you live in africa you must be black

Level 6

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#252 Feb 20, 2014
Stupid Thread Gosh wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the one who is being racist and spreading lies, I am from this region:
https://www.google.com/search...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanem_Empire
The Songhai as well also live in the Sahara, why do you think Kanuri language and Songhai langauge are "Nilo-Saharan". It wasn't until Arabs came to Africa that Africans were pushed down from the Sahara more southward into the Sahel.
THEy are now a black tribes in southern algeria morocco tunisia lybia and egypt that don't sepak arabic.
everyone now that real north africans were black except eurocentric monkeys
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#253 Feb 20, 2014
Stupid Thread Gosh wrote:
Here is more information for the racist Arabs and whites in this thread, this is a documentary of my people, and yes in those wall paintings they were paints of ONLY black people not Arabs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lCpsJxkUAVoXX
In addition, Ancient Egypt was completely black:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I don't need you racist Arabs and white people to tell lies to black people who would like to learn more about Africa.
White man builds Sphinx:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf
Blue eyed ancient Egyptians:
www.youtube.com/watch...
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#254 Feb 20, 2014
obamahamza08 wrote:
<quoted text>
THEy are now a black tribes in southern algeria morocco tunisia lybia and egypt that don't sepak arabic.
everyone now that real north africans were black except eurocentric monkeys
Moroccans at a soccer match! How did the black Moors turn majority white in 500 years Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????

www.marrakeshriadmarrakech.wordpress.com/2011...
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#255 Feb 20, 2014
obamahamza08 wrote:
<quoted text>
i know he is a somali or northen sudaneese the two selfhating black people
the majority of africans hate arabs like they hate white people and don't want any unity with black people
look at mali blacks in the north kill all fake arab touaregs
i am from touareg tribe in southern morocco and i am black the original berbers and touaregs are blacks and white berbers are a results of rape and interracial marriages between romans and black moors.
if you live in africa you must be black
NOPE white Moors are INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICANS!
Stupid Thread gosh

United States

#256 Feb 20, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>White man builds Sphinx:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf
Blue eyed ancient Egyptians:
www.youtube.com/watch...
Get out of here you know nothing of Africa. FYI, there are many black groups still in Morocco like the Gnawa. Don't post on topics you know nothing about or a region you know nothing about.

Also, it's not black's making those videos. It is white who aren't racist that are exposing the truth. The truth hurts I know.
Stupid Thread gosh

United States

#257 Feb 20, 2014
obamahamza08 wrote:
<quoted text>
i know he is a somali or northen sudaneese the two selfhating black people
the majority of africans hate arabs like they hate white people and don't want any unity with black people
look at mali blacks in the north kill all fake arab touaregs
i am from touareg tribe in southern morocco and i am black the original berbers and touaregs are blacks and white berbers are a results of rape and interracial marriages between romans and black moors.
if you live in africa you must be black
Then we are brothers, mathalaka d'etis?
Ludwig Smirnov

Washington, DC

#258 Feb 20, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
And where did the Romans and Greeks get their knowledge if not from Egypt and North Africa? And where did Egypt get her civilization? Further south in Africa by way of the Nile Valley. There is no doubt about it. The romans did not even have a zero. The Arabs had zero in their number system. And every African number system known has a zero.
Without zero, none of the modern computer technology is possible. You sure cannot build a computer based on Roman numerals.
The Egyptians were not the sole inventors of civilization fool. Much learning and science came from Mesopotamia and India, and the Greeks discovered quite a few things of their own. However, Egyptian learning was asorbed by European and Midedle Easterners, it was hardly picked up on by West African peoples, the point being, that it was not the INDIGENOUS culture and laerning of the Moors which they brought to Spain.

May you find peace with this new realization Effendi.

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