Is Perfection Boring??

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#87 Sep 14, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>maybe if u looked for the perfect parnter.. U wouldnt have settled with someone imperfect for you.. But believe me.. When u find him or her.. The love is beyond the physical matter
That advice would be easy to follow were we immortal. But since we aren’t, compromise and lowering of standards become urgently necessary sometimes in order for some of us to avoid finishing our finite journey alone.

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#88 Sep 14, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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That advice would be easy to follow were we immortal. But since we aren’t, compromise and lowering of standards become urgently necessary sometimes in order for some of us to avoid finishing our finite journey alone.
nope.. Comes down.. To who you put your faith into.. If god.. Then nothing is impossible.. Even palsm say.. God gives a godly man.. A prudent wife

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#89 Sep 14, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>nope.. Comes down.. To who you put your faith into.. If god.. Then nothing is impossible.. Even palsm say.. God gives a godly man.. A prudent wife
Was Job a Godly man prior to his ordeal?

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#90 Sep 14, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>okay read the genises account carefully.. Adam didnt know what, hate, anger, pain or suffering meant.. But obey god.. When god.. Said to him.. U eat of this tree you will surely die.. Adam obeyed.. But, eve did not.. Not until he ate the tree of knowledge.. His eyes was open.. The first sin and the first cammandent.. Shows how important obeidence is.
Then it would have been inevitable for them NOT to eat from tree because there wasn't any concept of suffering & thus they didn't see the value of obeying God.

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#91 Sep 14, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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Was Job a Godly man prior to his ordeal?
no.. He was a blest man.. Not a man without sin

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#92 Sep 14, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>maybe if u looked for the perfect parnter.. U wouldnt have settled with someone imperfect for you.. But believe me.. When u find him or her.. The love is beyond the physical matter
It's very difficult trying to get everyone to conform to what is best because everyone see things differently. If everyone doesn't see the world the same way, it's nearly impossible to create a world the way you feel it should be. That's why a one world culture could only happen through force.

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#93 Sep 14, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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Then it would have been inevitable for them NOT to eat from tree because there wasn't any concept of suffering & thus they didn't see the value of obeying God.
i dont clearly understand what you mean.. But, you know you can know god in 40 days if you really wanted too.. U see god.. Is not a physical but a spiritual matter.. Meaning man.. In order to get closer to god.. Needs to die of the physical world.. Now when adam and eve.. Disobeyed god.. This what happen.. When god said you will truly die.. It was spiritual death.. Then the physical.. But in saying that.. Living in an imperfect world.. In my eyes.. Is good.. For truly knowing the result of evil desires.. In the next life.. I will never touch the tree of knowledge..

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#94 Sep 14, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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It's very difficult trying to get everyone to conform to what is best because everyone see things differently. If everyone doesn't see the world the same way, it's nearly impossible to create a world the way you feel it should be. That's why a one world culture could only happen through force.
wrong again.. The catholic church is why we have.. One god, one faith one baptism.. And thinking of one mind.. Like christ.. In england like samoa.. They had no royal families.. Just many warlords.. In fact if conforming to ones belief system is true.. Would mean america or nz and austrilia to euarope.. The morals of people.. Would be on par with the people of ppng.. Where each tribe lives by its own rules and costoms..

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#95 Sep 14, 2013
I leave you with one great example.. Being a builder in order to mix cement.. Is not an easy task.. U have to have.. 5 cement for 20 sand.. Mix it for over 3 minutes.. The water mix has to be so good.. That if u dont obey the rules given.. U will.. Have very.. Weak cement.. Now calling.. Weak cement.. Perfect.. Is and imperfect answer
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#96 Sep 14, 2013
The concept that Adam and were moral idiots defames God’s character by accusing him of unjustly demanding moral uprightness from creatures incapable of understanding what was morally involved. That idea is unbiblical. Man was created upright. That required he have no inherent moral flaws. inability to tell right from wrong would have been a serious flaw and would have made God’s pronouncing his creation good a joke.

Ecclesiastes 7:29
"Behold, I have found only this, that God made men upright, but they have sought out many devices."

God is a moral being. Adam and Eve were in his image.

Genesis 1:27

So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

http://biblehub.com/ecclesiastes/7-29.htm

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#97 Sep 14, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>i dont clearly understand what you mean.. But, you know you can know god in 40 days if you really wanted too.. U see god.. Is not a physical but a spiritual matter.. Meaning man.. In order to get closer to god.. Needs to die of the physical world.. Now when adam and eve.. Disobeyed god.. This what happen.. When god said you will truly die.. It was spiritual death.. Then the physical.. But in saying that.. Living in an imperfect world.. In my eyes.. Is good.. For truly knowing the result of evil desires.. In the next life.. I will never touch the tree of knowledge..
If Adam & Eve had no experience of suffering, God's message may have had less value to them. It has MORE value to someone who has experienced it. For Adam & Eve God's message was MORE on Trust. Adam & Eve had a concept like we have a concept of God's word. We don't have the experience unless we don't trust him.

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#98 Sep 14, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>wrong again.. The catholic church is why we have.. One god, one faith one baptism.. And thinking of one mind.. Like christ.. In england like samoa.. They had no royal families.. Just many warlords.. In fact if conforming to ones belief system is true.. Would mean america or nz and austrilia to euarope.. The morals of people.. Would be on par with the people of ppng.. Where each tribe lives by its own rules and costoms..
Everyone conforming requires force unless we all share the same perceptions which I seriously doubt. This is why it is nearly impossible for the world to be how we want it to be. All species are hardwired to see the world a certain way as someone has stated earlier.

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#99 Sep 14, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>wrong again.. The catholic church is why we have.. One god, one faith one baptism.. And thinking of one mind.. Like christ.. In england like samoa.. They had no royal families.. Just many warlords.. In fact if conforming to ones belief system is true.. Would mean america or nz and austrilia to euarope.. The morals of people.. Would be on par with the people of ppng.. Where each tribe lives by its own rules and costoms..
BTW The actions of Religion only support what I've stated. Religion has used force to make everyone conform because it's simply NOT possible any other way.

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#100 Sep 14, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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Everyone conforming requires force unless we all share the same perceptions which I seriously doubt. This is why it is nearly impossible for the world to be how we want it to be. All species are hardwired to see the world a certain way as someone has stated earlier.
really.. Then explain why early christans.. Did not conform to pagan rome.. Heres a fact.. People who conform to christan values.. Have the best family values.

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#101 Sep 14, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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BTW The actions of Religion only support what I've stated. Religion has used force to make everyone conform because it's simply NOT possible any other way.
really.. Example.. Or you wish catholics to teach our kids watching porn is not a sin.. Our value systems is what makes ur faith.. Aka religious belief.. Meaning past down generation. To generation

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#102 Sep 14, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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If Adam & Eve had no experience of suffering, God's message may have had less value to them. It has MORE value to someone who has experienced it. For Adam & Eve God's message was MORE on Trust. Adam & Eve had a concept like we have a concept of God's word. We don't have the experience unless we don't trust him.
wrong.. If i said to you.. There was a tree.. That could make u beautiful or young.. Forever.. I be a rich.. Heres the thing.. Lucifer desired to be god.. Thou he was just an angel.. So the same as man.. Who if had the chance to be human or an angel.. Would choose the higher order.. Why we die.. For man desire to be something greater.

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#103 Sep 15, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>really.. Example.. Or you wish catholics to teach our kids watching porn is not a sin.. Our value systems is what makes ur faith.. Aka religious belief.. Meaning past down generation. To generation
Only God has the power. Religion cannot Unify Humanity. The results have been rather disastrous.

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#104 Sep 15, 2013
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>wrong.. If i said to you.. There was a tree.. That could make u beautiful or young.. Forever.. I be a rich.. Heres the thing.. Lucifer desired to be god.. Thou he was just an angel.. So the same as man.. Who if had the chance to be human or an angel.. Would choose the higher order.. Why we die.. For man desire to be something greater.
We are going in circles now because this doesn't explain what Perfection is. Your idea of Perfection is Adam & Eve's era. Perfection for the most part is subjective but from a Biblical sense, the world would seem less interesting but MORE peaceful. Personally I feel a perfect world may be too predictable but this may actually be a good thing now that I think about it because we all would be in agreement.

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#105 Sep 15, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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Only God has the power. Religion cannot Unify Humanity. The results have been rather disastrous.
example please.. I give u an example.. How religion saved the christan faith.. Example.. Show me one.. Protestant church which represents christ and why.. Secondly america legalized abortion, use of porn, condoms, and gay marriage.. Disastrous in what way.. Please explain

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#106 Sep 15, 2013
Lol.. What god u talking bout.. Redefine there are many gods.. Many religions.. Guess what.. It was the christan faith which unified europe.. While in the middle east they still fighting.. Why.. Lol.. Answer the question

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