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#672 Jun 21, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
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I concur.
So what is your reason for posting this?
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#673 Jun 21, 2013
MumRa wrote:
<quoted text>So what is your reason for posting this?
I agree with an individual. What's yours?

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#674 Jun 21, 2013
910disaster wrote:
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smh
You really know nothing do you?
Native Americans were SLAVES. They were broken down and beaten by yt just like Africans. American Indian slave trade mostly ended when the African slave trade began.
See above post for links.
Those are not reliable sources you idiot. NAs lost their land to white men but they never chained in droves and sold to work for whites or shipped down south either!

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#675 Jun 21, 2013
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I agree with an individual. What's yours?
I'm just wondering what difference does it make that some whites were slaves?

What does that have to do with atrocities against Blacks from the Jim Crow Era to now?

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#676 Jun 21, 2013
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I'm just wondering what difference does it make that some whites were slaves?
What does that have to do with atrocities against Blacks from the Jim Crow Era to now?
Read back a few comments.
yt troll said NA werent slaves they were indentured servants. Of course, capree ran to agree.
Pheo posted that to agree with me about whites being the indentured servants not NA. From what I can tell, she wasnt taking away or making light of black slavery & oppression

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#677 Jun 21, 2013
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<quoted text>Those are not reliable sources you idiot.
See the "edu" on the site address? This was written by someone that spent a grip on education. Sorry, I cant find a white man to put his dick in your mouth while educating you. What other source would you consider reliable?
Capree wrote:
<quoted text> NAs lost their land to white men but they never chained in droves and sold to work for whites or shipped down south either!
"Lost their land" did it disappear? How do you suppose they lost their land? White killed & enslaved native americans and TOOK the land.
Here is a site that breaks in down in laymans terms. Its in large print and doesnt use too many big scary words.
http://www.education.com/study-help/article/u...
" European explorers and settlers felt that this supposed superiority gave them the right to enslave the Indians, convert them to Christianity, and take control of their lands."
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#678 Jun 21, 2013
910disaster wrote:
<quoted text>Read back a few comments.
yt troll said NA werent slaves they were indentured servants. Of course, capree ran to agree.
Pheo posted that to agree with me about whites being the indentured servants not NA. From what I can tell, she wasnt taking away or making light of black slavery & oppression
Ma'am, you're correct. I'd never make light of my people's oppression or anyone else for that matter.

The trans atlantic slave trade and Jim Crow were a horrific injustice and inhumane acts upon human beings indeed.

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#679 Jun 21, 2013
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See the "edu" on the site address? This was written by someone that spent a grip on education. Sorry, I cant find a white man to put his dick in your mouth while educating you. What other source would you consider reliable?
Post some governmental information regarding the large enslavement of Native American tribes and all their freedoms being taken away and them toiling from sunset to sunrise for white people and thousands of Indians living with whites. What became of them living off to themselves on reservations? Many Indians had attacked and murdered white settlers, burned their homes and raped their women so why all of a sudden did whites feel safe to have a bunch of Indians who they considered wild crazy savages, living and working around them and their white families? None of that B.S. you have been stating makes any sense.
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"Lost their land" did it disappear? How do you suppose they lost their land? White killed & enslaved native americans and TOOK the land.
Indian chiefs and braves just didn't sit by helpless letting whites put them off their land and enslave them. They battled with white men for their land like different groups have been going to war to take or keep land since time began. So please don't insult either one of our intelligences by trying push that crap!

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#680 Jun 21, 2013
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Post some governmental information regarding the large enslavement of Native American tribes and all their freedoms being taken away and them toiling from sunset to sunrise for white people and thousands of Indians living with whites. What became of them living off to themselves on reservations? Many Indians had attacked and murdered white settlers, burned their homes and raped their women so why all of a sudden did whites feel safe to have a bunch of Indians who they considered wild crazy savages, living and working around them and their white families? None of that B.S. you have been stating makes any sense.
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Indian chiefs and braves just didn't sit by helpless letting whites put them off their land and enslave them. They battled with white men for their land like different groups have been going to war to take or keep land since time began. So please don't insult either one of our intelligences by trying push that crap!
HAHA!!! Bitch you dumb. The NA slave trade was NOT well documented. Didnt you see that info in the links? I bet you did....thats why you want a government link. LOL!!! Take this and STFU!

Book: Native American Slavery in the Southern Colonies by Donald Grinde Jr.

Book: The Indian Slave Trade by Alan Gallay. Yale University Press

Going to break but I will be back with more info & links

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#681 Jun 21, 2013
910disaster wrote:
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Here is a site that breaks in down in laymans terms. Its in large print and doesnt use too many big scary words.
http://www.education.com/study-help/article/u...
" European explorers and settlers felt that this supposed superiority gave them the right to enslave the Indians, convert them to Christianity, and take control of their lands."
Excuse me but where in the hell does it say that Indian tribes where forced into slavery by whites??? Or ever slaved for whites? Your site is saying very much of what I have already said. Lets see where was each Indian man, woman and child's bill of sale and other records? Did any get freedom papers? All of this was done in the handling of black slaves so you to let you tell it, some just drove up with a wagon of enslaved Indians and told other whites just to grab the ones you want and take them home? I find o many records of black slaves and bills of sales, any of find this of NAs?

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#682 Jun 21, 2013
Corrections:

Excuse me but where in the hell does it say that Indian tribes where forced into slavery by whites??? Or ever slaved for whites? Your site is saying very much of what I have already said. Lets see where was each Indian man, woman and child's bill of sale and other records? Did any freed indians get freedom papers? All of this was done in the handling of black slaves so to let you tell it, some white men just drove up with a wagon of enslaved Indians and told other whites just to grab the ones they wanted and take them home? I can find many records of black slaves and bills of sales online , can you find any ofthis of NAs?

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#683 Jun 21, 2013
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Excuse me but where in the hell does it say that Indian tribes where forced into slavery by whites??? Or ever slaved for whites? Your site is saying very much of what I have already said. Lets see where was each Indian man, woman and child's bill of sale and other records? Did any get freedom papers? All of this was done in the handling of black slaves so you to let you tell it, some just drove up with a wagon of enslaved Indians and told other whites just to grab the ones you want and take them home? I find o many records of black slaves and bills of sales, any of find this of NAs?
"Native American slavery has traditionally been treated by scholars as a secondary matter that is of historical interest because of its relationship to other more common forms of exploitation, or because it was a curious but minor variation on the more important enslavement of African peoples on colonial plantations."

"Ultimately, however, Native American slavery in North America became increasingly dominated by the demand for labor in plantation enterprises. By the 19th century, many Native American peoples, most famously the Cherokees, embraced racial slavery and began to own African American slaves."

http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/docu...

There is no documentation of a fucking bill of sale!!! Idiot! That doesnt mean it never happened! They were slaves and then SOME became slave owners!
I've given proof, you refuse to take it.

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#684 Jun 21, 2013
910disaster wrote:
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HAHA!!! Bitch you dumb. The NA slave trade was NOT well documented. Didnt you see that info in the links? I bet you did....thats why you want a government link. LOL!!! Take this and STFU!
Book: Native American Slavery in the Southern Colonies by Donald Grinde Jr.
Book: The Indian Slave Trade by Alan Gallay. Yale University Press
Going to break but I will be back with more info & links
You had better be back with more creditable information because so far you are only presenting unrealistic crap. You claim thousands of Indians where forced into slavery and sold but there isn't one record of proof of any of these so-called Indian sales??? Man/Woman or whatever you are, you need to get your azz out here! Can you at least tell me when all the Indian tribes (who by the why owned many black slaves themselves)where emancipated??? Or was that secret also??? LOL!

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#685 Jun 21, 2013
http://www.pantribalconfederacy.com/confedera...

"The numbers are difficult to calculate, but I estimate that 30,000 to 50,000, perhaps
more, American Indians were exported from Charleston. Thousands more were exported from
ports like Boston and Salem, and, on a much smaller scale, by the French from New Orleans.
Untold numbers, which scholars are just beginning to calculate, will ultimately include the
thousands who were not exported from their region but lived out their lives as slaves on
plantations in Virginia, as farm laborers in Connecticut and as domestics in New France.
Although the scale of enslavement pales in comparison to the African slave trade, it is notable, for
instance, that from 1670 to 1717, far more American Indians were exported from Charleston than
Africans were brought in. Scholars long have known about the Indian slave trade, but the scattered
nature of the sources deterred a systematic examination. No one had any conception of the trade's
massive extent and that it played such a central role in the lives of early Americans and in the
colonial economy."

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#686 Jun 21, 2013
You asked about NA being chained?

Engraving of Spaniards enslaving Native Americans by Theodor de Bry (1528–1598), published in America. part 6. Frankfurt, 1596.
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/histarch/puertoReal_...

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#687 Jun 21, 2013
Massacre of the Pequot tribe which resulted in some being enslaved.

http://xml.newsday.com/news/specials/hc-india...

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#688 Jun 21, 2013
Capree wrote:
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Excuse me but where in the hell does it say that Indian tribes where forced into slavery by whites??? Or ever slaved for whites? Your site is saying very much of what I have already said. Lets see where was each Indian man, woman and child's bill of sale and other records? Did any freed indians get freedom papers? All of this was done in the handling of black slaves so to let you tell it, some white men just drove up with a wagon of enslaved Indians and told other whites just to grab the ones they wanted and take them home? I can find many records of black slaves and bills of sales online , can you find any ofthis of NAs?
Besides being brutalized by early European settlers, yes, Aboriginals were eventually used as slave labor and in slave armies. It wasn't as brutal as what Africans had to endure but it did exist. The Whites needed the Aboriginals so they treated them better. They would have died in those cold climates without food if it wasn't for the kindness of the Indians. White men lied to them and then later either killed them or enslaved them and their women.

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#689 Jun 21, 2013
Flies_On_Pooh wrote:
Native Americans were never 'slaves'. Some of them were indentured servants. There is a difference...
Actually, the Spanish enslaved and killed millions of Indians in central and South America, and also in the Caribbean.

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#690 Jun 21, 2013
910disaster wrote:
Massacre of the Pequot tribe which resulted in some being enslaved.
http://xml.newsday.com/news/specials/hc-india...
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Yes, the massacres and enslavement of the Pequod people was part of the ugly records of the Puritans. Malcolm x once said that we Blaaks didn't land on Plymouth Rock, but that Plymouth Rock landed on us. It landed a bit more heavily upon our red sisters and brothers.

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#691 Jun 21, 2013
Capree wrote:
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Excuse me but where in the hell does it say that Indian tribes where forced into slavery by whites??? Or ever slaved for whites? Your site is saying very much of what I have already said. Lets see where was each Indian man, woman and child's bill of sale and other records? Did any get freedom papers? All of this was done in the handling of black slaves so you to let you tell it, some just drove up with a wagon of enslaved Indians and told other whites just to grab the ones you want and take them home? I find o many records of black slaves and bills of sales, any of find this of NAs?
You need to study more history. It is common knowledge for anyone who studied history that Europeans attempted the enslavement of Indians BEFORE enslaving the Blacks. But largely because the Indians were dying out from the rigors of bondage, Europeans leaned more and more to the enslavement of Africans. I knew that much in high school. But maybe they aren't teaching history these days, or are doing a poorer job of it.
Force labor resulted in the EXTERMINATION of the Indians of the Caribbean. The Carib and other Indians used to occupy those islands that are now predominantly Black. Spaniards enslaved Aztec Indians and Indians in South America as well. That's OLD news, madame.
For better or worst, a Catholic clergyman--his name escapes me now--pleaded with the powers that people in Spain to discontinue the enslavement of the Indians before they died out, and replace them with Black slaves from the more populous continent of Africa.

At least read A PEOPLES HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES by recently deceased historian Howard Zinn. Very accessible.

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