Black people cant be Racist!

[Zeek NJ]

I hear the word being thrown around alot in this forum but do you really know what it means to be a racsist. Maybe some of these so called experts in this forum can shed some light on the meaning.

[Mack the Great]

Zeek NJ wrote:

I hear the word being thrown around alot in this forum but do you really know what it means to be a racsist. Maybe some of these so called experts in this forum can shed some light on the meaning.

Well, there's a strong difference between prejudice and racism. When it comes to prejudice, it means that you hate another group of people because of some negative stereotype you have towards them, whereas racist means you harbor feelings of superiority over another race that you feel is inferior. Some of us are prejudice and some of us our racist, but in the case of the title of your thread, I strongly feel convinced that us blacks can't be racist, but prejudice due to our historical nature of being open minded, nonxenophobic, and far more accepting than whites and Asians, and the disparity of racial balances. By that, I mean that us blacks have systematically and historically been the victims of racism from whites and Asians who are the aggressors of racism, not to say that us blacks can't be aggressors of racism too as we can, but it's very rare as we aren't in power to oppress anyone using racism, let alone tolerate it from anybody. Perhaps I should say that us blacks are the LEAST racist group of people since we are also more forgiving amd compassionate about it than whites and Asians.

[Zeek NJ]

Thank you Mack i see you are a person with knowledge of self i say this because you hit on the point i was trying to make that there are no black people in this country who have the power to be racist and have their predjudice affect other people but how many ex-clan members are now in politics, police chiefs and sherriffs and even worse in the supreme court.A great example of this is the appartide in South Africa where racist white men passes laws against blacks based strictly on their prejudice we in this country dont have this kind of power. Thanx for responding MAck u can ignore the message i left on your thread u prove yourselve to me in the response you gave. Peace

Mack the Great wrote:

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Well, there's a strong difference between prejudice and racism. When it comes to prejudice, it means that you hate another group of people because of some negative stereotype you have towards them, whereas racist means you harbor feelings of superiority over another race that you feel is inferior. Some of us are prejudice and some of us our racist, but in the case of the title of your thread, I strongly feel convinced that us blacks can't be racist, but prejudice due to our historical nature of being open minded, nonxenophobic, and far more accepting than whites and Asians, and the disparity of racial balances. By that, I mean that us blacks have systematically and historically been the victims of racism from whites and Asians who are the aggressors of racism, not to say that us blacks can't be aggressors of racism too as we can, but it's very rare as we aren't in power to oppress anyone using racism, let alone tolerate it from anybody. Perhaps I should say that us blacks are the LEAST racist group of people since we are also more forgiving amd compassionate about it than whites and Asians.

[Mack the Great]

Zeek NJ wrote:

Thank you Mack i see you are a person with knowledge of self i say this because you hit on the point i was trying to make that there are no black people in this country who have the power to be racist and have their predjudice affect other people but how many ex-clan members are now in politics, police chiefs and sherriffs and even worse in the supreme court.A great example of this is the appartide in South Africa where racist white men passes laws against blacks based strictly on their prejudice we in this country dont have this kind of power. Thanx for responding MAck u can ignore the message i left on your thread u prove yourselve to me in the response you gave. Peace
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No problem and ignored! Peace my brotah and it was a pleasure answering your question.

[cville_baddog]

You are way off.

Prejudice is the prejudging of someone. It doesnt have to be race based.

Racist is the dislike or intolerance of someone based on thier race. I will suggest that any race can be racist.

What your confusing this with is the power of oppresion. Certainly I would agree that blacks do not have the position at this point to oppress other races. But absolutely they can be racist by definition.

[MDJ]

the Original ohReally wrote:

prej·u·diced [préjj&#601;dist]
adj
holding prejudices: holding opinions, especially unfavorable ones, that are based on insufficient knowledge, irrational feelings, or inaccurate stereotypes
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Anyone who holds a negaive attitude about ANYONE else is....PREJUDICED.
rac·ist [ráyssist]
adj (disapproving)
1. based on racism: based on notions and stereotypes related to race
2. prejudiced against other races: prejudiced against all people who belong to other races “Black power … a call to reject the racist institutions and values of this society” Stokley Carmichael [Kwame Toure] and Charles Vernon Hamilton Black Power! 1967
n (plural rac·ists)
racist person: somebody who is racist (disapproving)
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Anyone who is PREJUDICED against ANT other race, is a RACIST.
And anyone who BELIEVES that BLACKS can NOT be RACIST is.....
stu·pid [st&#63507;p&#601;d]
(comparative stu·pi·der, superlative stu·pi·dest)
adj
1. unintelligent: thought to show a lack of intelligence, perception, or common sense
a stupid mistake
2. silly: irritatingly silly or time-wasting
had us playing stupid games
3. expressing irritation: used to express anger, annoyance, or frustration (informal)
I can’t get the stupid thing to work!
4. dazed: in a dazed state, for example, from shock, fatigue, or from the effects of drugs or alcohol
almost stupid with tiredness
[Mid-16th century. From Latin stupidus , from stupere “to be stunned.”]
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Oh Really, is it that serious? Put the dictionary down and close it. Geez, we get it!

[MDJ]

the Original ohReally wrote:

<quoted text>I was so amused at the thought of putting the last definition in there as a part of the sentence, I felt compelled to share my wit and hilarity with everyone. I'm sorry if it was a bit overdrawn.....

I see. Hahahaha!!!!

[Maverick]

Zeek NJ wrote:

I hear the word being thrown around alot in this forum but do you really know what it means to be a racsist. Maybe some of these so called experts in this forum can shed some light on the meaning.

I can shed some light...... Many black folks are racist.

[BlackAmericanPri ncess]

Blacks can be just as racist as whites.

[Zeek NJ]

Understand i know the diference between prejudice and being racist and even with your definitions you didnt prove anything except you no how to read i looked up the definition of the word in more than one dictionary combined with the ideal that being a racist more time than not had to do beind able to oppress or affect in any way ones which you have a stereotype against. Black people in this country dont have that kind of power and in a kind of way your definitions help prove my point especially your first one.So thank You

the Original ohReally wrote:

prej·u·diced [préjj&#601;dist]
adj
holding prejudices: holding opinions, especially unfavorable ones, that are based on insufficient knowledge, irrational feelings, or inaccurate stereotypes
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Anyone who holds a negaive attitude about ANYONE else is....PREJUDICED.
rac·ist [ráyssist]
adj (disapproving)
1. based on racism: based on notions and stereotypes related to race
2. prejudiced against other races: prejudiced against all people who belong to other races “Black power … a call to reject the racist institutions and values of this society” Stokley Carmichael [Kwame Toure] and Charles Vernon Hamilton Black Power! 1967
n (plural rac·ists)
racist person: somebody who is racist (disapproving)
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Anyone who is PREJUDICED against ANT other race, is a RACIST.
And anyone who BELIEVES that BLACKS can NOT be RACIST is.....
stu·pid [st&#63507;p&#601;d]
(comparative stu·pi·der, superlative stu·pi·dest)
adj
1. unintelligent: thought to show a lack of intelligence, perception, or common sense
a stupid mistake
2. silly: irritatingly silly or time-wasting
had us playing stupid games
3. expressing irritation: used to express anger, annoyance, or frustration (informal)
I can’t get the stupid thing to work!
4. dazed: in a dazed state, for example, from shock, fatigue, or from the effects of drugs or alcohol
almost stupid with tiredness
[Mid-16th century. From Latin stupidus , from stupere “to be stunned.”]
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

[Zeek NJ]

Where in the history of this country has black peoples intlorence of whites or any body else resulted in the laws of that land being a reflection of those prejudice ideals? Hmmm!And thats based on your defintion of being racist.

cville_baddog wrote:

You are way off.
Prejudice is the prejudging of someone. It doesnt have to be race based.
Racist is the dislike or intolerance of someone based on thier race. I will suggest that any race can be racist.
What your confusing this with is the power of oppresion. Certainly I would agree that blacks do not have the position at this point to oppress other races. But absolutely they can be racist by definition.

[CloseYourHole]

Zeek NJ wrote:

I hear the word being thrown around alot in this forum but do you really know what it means to be a racsist. Maybe some of these so called experts in this forum can shed some light on the meaning.

black people are the most the IGNORANT but not the most RACIST that is white people!

[cville_baddog]

Zeek NJ wrote:

Where in the history of this country has black peoples intlorence of whites or any body else resulted in the laws of that land being a reflection of those prejudice ideals? Hmmm!And thats based on your defintion of being racist.
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Where did I define racism anywhere as being a legal concept? Again, your confusing racism with oppression.
How do you define racist that laws have to be enacted. There are many whites who are racist - where there are no laws supporting thier racism. Racism is not a legal concept.

[cville_baddog]

Eddy Smegma wrote:

Many blacks teach their children to hate whites. If that's not the definition of racism, I don't know what is.

your garbage posts are not welcome here.

[Jorge]

actually cville, he has a point. as we all know racism is taught, not inherited. I remember someone telling me that if you put a black kid and a white kid in a sandbox, they'll play together peacefully but if the parents start imparting racist ideas, as the kids grow older, they'll conform to that.

[CloseYourHole]

Tony Lemore wrote:

African-American Serial Killers
(# of victims in parentheses.)
Daniel Andrew Bowler (3), Richmond, VA
George Russell (3 women), WA state
Timothy W. Spencer (5), Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA
Elton M. Jackson (12), Norfolk, VA area
Carlton Gray (3), Columbus, GA
Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women), Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.
Kendall Francois (8 women), Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.
Terry A. Blair (8), Kansas City area
Zebra Killers (78), San Francisco
Wayne Williams (33), Atlanta, GA
Some Negro (15), Indianapolis, IN
Vaughn Greenwood (11), LA
Andre Crawford (10), Chicago - southside
Calvin Jackson (9+), NY
Gregory Klepper (8), Chicago – southside
Alton Coleman (8), Midwest
Harrison Graham (7+), N. Philadelphia
Cleophus Prince (6), San Diego
Robert Rozier (6), Miami
Craig Price (3), Warwick, RI
Devine Jones (3+), St. Louis
Maurice Byrd (20+), St. Louis
Maury Travis (17 and rising), St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta
Coral Eugene Watts (13 confessed to, possibly 80), Texas, Michigan, Canada
Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (20+), Florida
Lorenzo Fayne (5 children), East St. Louis, IL
Henry Louis Wallace (9), Charlotte, NC
Reginald and Jonathan Carr (5), Wichita, KS
John Allen Muhammad (a.k.a. John Allen Williams) and John Lee Malvo,(Suspected in 13 to 19 and rising fast), Maryland; Virginia; Montgomery, AL; Baton Rouge, LA; Tacoma, WA; Georgia; Tucson, AZ
Torey Miller (2 homicides, one of which was a freeway drive-by, and the attempted ambush-murder of one St. Louis City police officer), St. Louis, MO.
Derrick Todd Lee,(5 women), southern Louisiana
Paul Durousseau,(6, two of which were pregnant women), Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.
Troy Sampson (3), Las Vegas
Edward James (3), Las Vegas (This and the previous Las Vegas worthie were both "thrill" serial killers, who brutally murdered innocent and unsuspecting white people they never even met -- EPH)
Eddie Lee Mosley (25 to 30 women), south Florida
Henry Lee Jones (4+), south Florida; Bartlett, TN
Richard "Babyface" Jameswhite (15), New York; Georgia.
Donald E. Younge, Jr.,(4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
Lorenzo J. Gilyard (12 women), Kansas City, MO.(May be Missouri's worst serial killer ever, according to the Kansas City Star.)
Michael Vernon (7), Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people - 5 in a shoe store for not having his sneaker size and 1 pizza delivery person and 1 gypsy cab driver.
Lamon J. McKoy (2, maybe more). Geneva, NY.
Jake (?) Bird, Tacoma, WA. He offed two in Tacoma in the 1940s and admitted to murdering many others nationwide.
Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women), Los Angeles
***
Something is seriously wrong with the nigro race.

there are more white serial killers in history than black serial killers! so that 20 year period aint s#$t compared to CENTURIES! ha!ha! sit on a d1ck mr post-man!

[Zeek NJ]

First off the comment about black people being ignorant is uncalled and ignorant itself so your a coward for that,cause i wasnt trying to go there but you took it there, second and i bet you couldnt have enough text to put up the numbers killed by white men including africans and native americans, and you account for missing persons being counted as being killed by these men. Even with your numbers it doesnt prove anything or disprove the brutality done by the white man not only in this country but wherever they land it just proves in some cases black men can be just as violent.Plus we were talking about MOVIES so why do you think serial killers in the MOVIES are always white it must mean white people enjoy seeing one of there own killing people by dismemberment. SO KEEP IT CIVIL WILL YA!

Tony Lemore wrote:

African-American Serial Killers
(# of victims in parentheses.)
Daniel Andrew Bowler (3), Richmond, VA
George Russell (3 women), WA state
Timothy W. Spencer (5), Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA
Elton M. Jackson (12), Norfolk, VA area
Carlton Gray (3), Columbus, GA
Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women), Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.
Kendall Francois (8 women), Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.
Terry A. Blair (8), Kansas City area
Zebra Killers (78), San Francisco
Wayne Williams (33), Atlanta, GA
Some Negro (15), Indianapolis, IN
Vaughn Greenwood (11), LA
Andre Crawford (10), Chicago - southside
Calvin Jackson (9+), NY
Gregory Klepper (8), Chicago – southside
Alton Coleman (8), Midwest
Harrison Graham (7+), N. Philadelphia
Cleophus Prince (6), San Diego
Robert Rozier (6), Miami
Craig Price (3), Warwick, RI
Devine Jones (3+), St. Louis
Maurice Byrd (20+), St. Louis
Maury Travis (17 and rising), St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta
Coral Eugene Watts (13 confessed to, possibly 80), Texas, Michigan, Canada
Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (20+), Florida
Lorenzo Fayne (5 children), East St. Louis, IL
Henry Louis Wallace (9), Charlotte, NC
Reginald and Jonathan Carr (5), Wichita, KS
John Allen Muhammad (a.k.a. John Allen Williams) and John Lee Malvo,(Suspected in 13 to 19 and rising fast), Maryland; Virginia; Montgomery, AL; Baton Rouge, LA; Tacoma, WA; Georgia; Tucson, AZ
Torey Miller (2 homicides, one of which was a freeway drive-by, and the attempted ambush-murder of one St. Louis City police officer), St. Louis, MO.
Derrick Todd Lee,(5 women), southern Louisiana
Paul Durousseau,(6, two of which were pregnant women), Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.
Troy Sampson (3), Las Vegas
Edward James (3), Las Vegas (This and the previous Las Vegas worthie were both "thrill" serial killers, who brutally murdered innocent and unsuspecting white people they never even met -- EPH)
Eddie Lee Mosley (25 to 30 women), south Florida
Henry Lee Jones (4+), south Florida; Bartlett, TN
Richard "Babyface" Jameswhite (15), New York; Georgia.
Donald E. Younge, Jr.,(4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
Lorenzo J. Gilyard (12 women), Kansas City, MO.(May be Missouri's worst serial killer ever, according to the Kansas City Star.)
Michael Vernon (7), Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people - 5 in a shoe store for not having his sneaker size and 1 pizza delivery person and 1 gypsy cab driver.
Lamon J. McKoy (2, maybe more). Geneva, NY.
Jake (?) Bird, Tacoma, WA. He offed two in Tacoma in the 1940s and admitted to murdering many others nationwide.
Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women), Los Angeles
***
Something is seriously wrong with the nigro race.

[Zeek NJ]

These things you mention were put there to protect people of color against racist people who aquired the power to oppress these people in the first place so please do continue. And how many people were lynched, unlawfully jailed ,and segragated against before these laws were put into place. So there is no ignorance on this side you better get the whole story first.Ever heard of a big a*s racist law called JIM CROW.

the Original ohReally wrote:

<quoted text>Ummmmmmm......
Antidiscrimination laws
Hate crime laws
affirmitive action
Shall I continue? Or would you ptrefer to ignore FACT and persue your lifetime of ignorance and misinterpretation.....your choice.
Just because some afrocentric activists claim that racism is ONLY possible through oppression, does not make it so. And just because some misguided torch bearers buy into the lie, does NOT distort the facts. Sorry, you're WRONG.

[Zen Master]

Racism is taught, not inherited. That means it does not matter what race you are. Once an ignorant person puts the seed inside a young child, the child takes it for the TRUTH, NOW is up to that child when he grows up to find out for himself what the truth really is OR live in ignorance as you see here on some of this comments.

[cville_baddog]

Jorge wrote:

actually cville, he has a point. as we all know racism is taught, not inherited. I remember someone telling me that if you put a black kid and a white kid in a sandbox, they'll play together peacefully but if the parents start imparting racist ideas, as the kids grow older, they'll conform to that.

You havent shown me where he has a point..Your showing my point. You havent shown where blacks cannot be racist. Anyone can be taught racist behavior.