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#217 Oct 14, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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Tbmr, which one of you females is lying the hardest?(obviously both of you are lying), but from your perspective who is lying the hardest? You or TimeforDishonesty?
You say Black men won't even go near a black woman... and she says black men can't stay away.
lol.
You ladies are a trip. Stop harassing AA men. Please.
Surely you realize this is an illogical thought process? You can't surely imagine every BW has the same experiences no matter where they are located in the world? TBMR is not even located in the same country nor do we share many of the same features - physical or personality wise. Logic will do you well; why do so many AAM lack logic??

Level 3

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#219 Oct 14, 2013
Hannia wrote:
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Why do you say that Anderson? Be more specific.
sourkraut croutch

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#220 Oct 14, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
I think your pint would make sense if Black men were not oppressed and victimized by whites. Without White supremacy your comment would make sense.
But WM were not choosing intimacy with people who oppressed them and benefited from their continued oppression. It's the choosing intimacy with someone from the oppressor group...
Wow! You'll never in 100 years of study, be able to completely grasp male psychology, will you??

What's funny is that you alluded to it once before in Topix. You made an angry-sounding accusation against Black men and you said something like "Black men want to ride that racist p*ssy!!" and you followed it up with something else I can't remember -- maybe something to the effect of how Black men wanted to use their machismo to "turn" racist WW.

It was funny to me and I remember laughing at it, because of the partial truth of the situation. However, what you failed to do is follow through and look at ALL men, not just Black men. I gave you a chance to do this by citing the example of American Indian warriors in the 1800s but you didn't want to see a connection. In fact, it DOES appear that there were Native warriors who were perfectly comfortable with wanting to "ride that racist p*ssy," to use your memorable phrase. Now, why on earth would they want to do that, Shalimarr??

The larger point, as I see it, is that once open hostilities have ceased in a war or civil conflict, men of all colors will often willingly grant the fairer sex of an "enemy/oppressor group" far more leniency than their menfolk -- whether deserved or not. In exchange, sexual intimacy is usually expected, whether it's consensual or by brute force. And I am not trying to glorify or "sanitize" rape, which is truly an abominable crime against humanity.

I am just trying to explain MASCULINE psychology to you, no matter how ugly it is to you as a woman. You must understand that:

White men do this for Black women
Black men do this for White women
Native men do this for White women
White men do this for Native women
....and on and on and on.

Your point about how women should be unattractive as members of an "oppressor group" is likely irrelevant to many "proud" men. Let me give you an imaginary example in an all-White historical situation:

It's 1946 and occupied Germany is a humbled, defeated and wrecked nation with millions of its soldiers either dead, wounded or locked up in prison camps. To survive, many impoverished German housewives are forced to ignore conventional morality and trade their bodies for access to American soldiers' chocolate bars, eggs, jam and other foodstuffs.

Three U.S. soldiers named Jackson, Mazzoli and Wisniewski are stationed outside Koln. All of them are young, white Americans who are "visiting" Europe for the first time in their lives. They've all quickly acquired German girlfriends whom they visit during off-duty hours. SSgt. John Wisniewski in particular has a satisfying relationship with Monika Bauer, the 33-year-old widow of a German SS officer. Monika's broken English makes things awkward at times, but she is quite pretty and attentive to John's needs, and he's grown fond of her.

When John is vigorously f*cking Monika every Friday evening, it doesn't bother him at all to recall that only 3 years earlier she was the wife of a Nazi Party member; or that they were both members of the same evil German "oppressor group" that invaded Poland in 1939 and exterminated (via starvation, firing squad and death camps) millions of innocent Polish civilians. As a patriotic American of immigrant Polish ancestry, John sympathizes with the horrific devastation of his grandparents' birthplace, but feels no particular urge to seek revenge against Monika or abandon her.

All he knows is that all soldiers have to follow orders; the shooting is over; the rebuilding is getting underway and the War Crimes trials will soon begin.

“I am”

Level 8

Since: Jul 11

The Original Intention

#221 Oct 14, 2013
TimeforHonesty I was really hoping you would come up with a better excuse than that. You're even going as far as to almost insult a beautiful woman just to pretend like men aren't hitting in her because of the way she looks.

Your obsession with AAM is beyond pathetic.

Since: May 12

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#222 Oct 15, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Wow! You'll never in 100 years of study, be able to completely grasp male psychology, will you??
What's funny is that you alluded to it once before in Topix. You made an angry-sounding accusation against Black men and you said something like "Black men want to ride that racist p*ssy!!" and you followed it up with something else I can't remember -- maybe something to the effect of how Black men wanted to use their machismo to "turn" racist WW.
It was funny to me and I remember laughing at it, because of the partial truth of the situation. However, what you failed to do is follow through and look at ALL men, not just Black men. I gave you a chance to do this by citing the example of American Indian warriors in the 1800s but you didn't want to see a connection. In fact, it DOES appear that there were Native warriors who were perfectly comfortable with wanting to "ride that racist p*ssy," to use your memorable phrase. Now, why on earth would they want to do that, Shalimarr??
The larger point, as I see it, is that once open hostilities have ceased in a war or civil conflict, men of all colors will often willingly grant the fairer sex of an "enemy/oppressor group" far more leniency than their menfolk -- whether deserved or not. In exchange, sexual intimacy is usually expected, whether it's consensual or by brute force. And I am not trying to glorify or "sanitize" rape, which is truly an abominable crime against humanity.
I am just trying to explain MASCULINE psychology to you, no matter how ugly it is to you as a woman. You must understand that:
White men do this for Black women
Black men do this for White women
Native men do this for White women
White men do this for Native women
....and on and on and on.
Your point about how women should be unattractive as members of an "oppressor group" is likely irrelevant to many "proud" men. Let me give you an imaginary example in an all-White historical situation:
ls no particular urge to seek revenge against Monika or abandon her.
All he knows is that all soldiers have to follow orders; the shooting is over; the rebuilding is getting underway and the War Crimes trials will soon begin.
So you think hostilities are over? You think women from your group trying to raise children alone are not impacted by WW get jobs in preference of them? You think white supremacy is over and your male group makes up 41% of the prison population, simply because you are more criminal than white males?
What war trials have you seen? What reparations have you been given?
You already told me that the IRWW you know, don't have any black female friends, so why are you separating them from white supremacy and saying you judge them by "character"? Their character is to have black male lovers, while never having sought platonic friendships with BW. So they are interested on in the black person with a p/enis, not the other black person.
Do you think Polish men, even today when hostilities REALLY have ceased, would marry German women at 24% while leaving 70% of Polish women unmarried? Do you think those NA tribes men would have done that? Did those other male groups involve themselves with their enemies woman, to the extent that it impacted heavily on their own race/group of women? Did their enjoyment of the oprressor's woman come at the price of women rom their own group, and if it had done, do you think those men would have been ok with that?

Since: May 12

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#223 Oct 15, 2013
@ Harrisson... stop with the history lesson already. Conscious BM do NOT think hostilities are over. They believe they are in an ongoing battle against pervasive white supremacy. They KNOW their IRWW do not have any black female friends or maybe have one biracial (BM/WW) friend :) So they know these women are only interested in blacks who have a pen/is which can pleasure them, and no interest in any black who doesn't.
I said you were trying to "turn" racist WW, because I sense you are subordinate beggars to whites, begging whites for acceptance. Crawling to whites for acceptance... "If I work hard and sweat to give you lots of pleasure, will you like me now?"
Some Black men don't want BW. They don't like the smell of our skin, they don't like the aroma of our sweat or vagin@s. They don't like the sound of our voices (when we are not singing) and they don't like how we walk or dress. They don't like how we wear our make up or how we style our hair. They don't like how we get loud when we are in a group and how we clap our hands and throw our heads back when we laugh. They dont like the colour of the children we make.
There are BM who consider themselves to be proud conscious BM, but they don't actually like anything about BW. They claim to be proud, but they despise everything about BW that points to us not being White.

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#224 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>....Do you think Polish men, even today when hostilities REALLY have ceased, would marry German women at 24% while leaving 70% of Polish women unmarried? Do you think those NA tribes men would have done that?

Did those other male groups involve themselves with their enemies woman, to the extent that it impacted heavily on their own race/group of women? Did their enjoyment of the oprressor's woman come at the price of women rom their own group, and if it had done, do you think those men would have been ok with that?
I've abbreviated your quote in order to keep things focused as tightly as possible on the analogies I used.

* I simply DON'T know if Polish men would marry German women at a rate of 24%, but I'll honestly say "Probably not."

* As far as Native tribesmen, no I don't think their intermarriage with Whites would be anywhere near that figure either.

* Did those other male groups involve themselves with their enemies woman, to the extent that it impacted heavily on their own race/group of women?

No, Shalimarr, I don't think so. Then again, neither has African-American male involvement with women from the "oppressor group" caused serious disruption to the lives of Black women.
If you want to know what DOES cause serious disruption, look at the jail, school and unemployment statistics -- which is wholly separate from the issue of white women and the black men who pursue them.

I know the marriage stats here in the USA for African-Americans better than you ever will: If you are a serious Black woman looking for a serious Black man to marry in the USA, you'll find him. The vast majority of our menfolk and womenfolk want each other.

However, the Black men in the UK have an entirely different profile - and I have NO stake in that situation whatsoever. I won't even attempt to defend what the men are doing over there, except to say that the psychological pressure they are under must be unbearably grim.

Since: May 12

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#225 Oct 15, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
<quoted text>
I've abbreviated your quote in order to keep things focused as tightly as possible on the analogies I used.
* I simply DON'T know if Polish men would marry German women at a rate of 24%, but I'll honestly say "Probably not."
* As far as Native tribesmen, no I don't think their intermarriage with Whites would be anywhere near that figure either.
* Did those other male groups involve themselves with their enemies woman, to the extent that it impacted heavily on their own race/group of women?
No, Shalimarr, I don't think so. Then again, neither has African-American male involvement with women from the "oppressor group" caused serious disruption to the lives of Black women.
If you want to know what DOES cause serious disruption, look at the jail, school and unemployment statistics -- which is wholly separate from the issue of white women and the black men who pursue them.
I know the marriage stats here in the USA for African-Americans better than you ever will: If you are a serious Black woman looking for a serious Black man to marry in the USA, you'll find him. The vast majority of our menfolk and womenfolk want each other.
However, the Black men in the UK have an entirely different profile - and I have NO stake in that situation whatsoever. I won't even attempt to defend what the men are doing over there, except to say that the psychological pressure they are under must be unbearably grim.
Even when only 50% of of UK BM at any one times are sleeping with BW, they still give us a higher marriage rate than 30%.
They may be under pressure from whites and be subordinate to them. But they do not think BW are unmarriagable while WW ARE.
You guys are happy to marry WW, you are men who rarely marry, yet one in four of you who does choose to marry, marries a non-BW usually white.
You never answer how a group of men who offer LESS than 30% marriage rates to their women (9%of AAW marry out), can be marrying their oppressor's woman at 24%!
The lowest marriage rate for your women, the highest IR for you. How can you say your desire for your oppressor is not impacting AAW and children? And even if it was, if your IR unions are based on love, and love conquers all, why do you make excuses for your "LOVE" for your "individual" WW, impacting other individual BW who are part of a mass who you don't even personally know?
You make excuses or try to fight the stats, because you know your motives are racist and nothing to do with love.

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#226 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
@ Harrisson... stop with the history lesson already.
I offered the historical perspective because you TRULY appear to NOT understand the psychology of male sexuality. Because you ask the same tiresome questions about Black male sexual/romantic choices over and over and over again.
Shalimarr wrote:
Conscious BM do NOT think hostilities are over. They believe they are in an ongoing battle against pervasive white supremacy.
By "hostilities," I meant overt physical violence...disruptive civil rights protests...armed paratroopers being used to escort students to school, etc.

As for the remainder of your post, my reply to that would be:

"Shalimarr, stop with the melodramatic poppycock already. If you want to be around 'Conscious BM' of that sort, then why on earth do you waste time living in the UK???

You can't possibly hope to meaningfully 'battle against pervasive white supremacy' while living in an originally and overwhelmingly White nation.... an island fortress which is the home of the Anglo-Saxon peoples."

The indigenous peoples of England are...WHITE, are they not? It is the most natural thing for English culture to be a culture of white-supremacy. LOL

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#227 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
Even when only 50% of of UK BM at any one times are sleeping with BW, they still give us a higher marriage rate than 30%.
They may be under pressure from whites and be subordinate to them. But they do not think BW are unmarriagable while WW ARE.
You guys are happy to marry WW, you are men who rarely marry, yet one in four of you who does choose to marry, marries a non-BW usually white.

You never answer how a group of men who offer LESS than 30% marriage rates to their women (9%of AAW marry out), can be marrying their oppressor's woman at 24%....
It's easy to tell when you're getting extremely emotional; you start spouting gibberish such as how Black men are supposedly marrying women from the "oppressor" group at a rate of 24%.

Which, of course, is complete bullsh*t. ;o)

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#228 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>....How can you say your desire for your oppressor is not impacting AAW and children?

And even if it was, if your IR unions are based on love, and love conquers all, why do you make excuses for your "LOVE" for your "individual" WW, impacting other individual BW who are part of a mass who you don't even personally know?

You make excuses or try to fight the stats, because you know your motives are racist and nothing to do with love.
I gave you the "racist" example of the Polish-American soldier who was comfortable with f*cking the ex-wife of a Nazi "oppressor," not because it was anything to be proud of, but because it's so plausible and normal for that era.

Those *types* of relationships really did happen. American soldiers in Germany really DID sleep with the "enemy's woman" in the thousands. Victorious men very easily "make nice" with women whose husbands or brothers they've just finished killing on the battlefield.

One can argue all day and night about how honorable or despicable it is or isn't, but the fact remains that it happens. Life is strange that way. Maybe it's shameful; or maybe it's a practical way for former enemies to reconcile and renounce armed conflict.

As emotional as you get about it, I fail to see how a relative *handful* of Black men are destroying the African-American community - or anything close to it - by such behavior.

Since: May 12

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#229 Oct 15, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
<quoted text>
It's easy to tell when you're getting extremely emotional; you start spouting gibberish such as how Black men are supposedly marrying women from the "oppressor" group at a rate of 24%.
Which, of course, is complete bullsh*t. ;o)
This is where you FAIL grasshopper :) Either these men's relationships are worthy of respect, are based on love that conquers all and are equally as legitimate as same race relationships, or they are not.
Why would you argue against the 24% stats, if you guys are choosing non-racist, WW with wonderful characters who would be happy to die in the fight for black civil rights?

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#230 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>....Why would you argue against the 24% stats, if you guys are choosing non-racist, WW with wonderful characters who would be happy to die in the fight for black civil rights?
I just prefer that you speak accurately and intelligently.

There are no official stats you can refer to showing that Black males in the USA marry whites at a rate of 24%. You are a silly Brit attempting to lecture African-Americans on our rates of intermarriage with Whites.

Please stop the ignorance, Shalimarr. LOL

Since: May 12

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#231 Oct 15, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
<quoted text>
I gave you the "racist" example of the Polish-American soldier who was comfortable with f*cking the ex-wife of a Nazi "oppressor," not because it was anything to be proud of, but because it's so plausible and normal for that era.
Those *types* of relationships really did happen. American soldiers in Germany really DID sleep with the "enemy's woman" in the thousands. Victorious men very easily "make nice" with women whose husbands or brothers they've just finished killing on the battlefield.
One can argue all day and night about how honorable or despicable it is or isn't, but the fact remains that it happens. Life is strange that way. Maybe it's shameful; or maybe it's a practical way for former enemies to reconcile and renounce armed conflict.
As emotional as you get about it, I fail to see how a relative *handful* of Black men are destroying the African-American community - or anything close to it - by such behavior.
But you'e not VICTORIOUS men are you? You are the oppressed filling jails and unemployment lines. How is it a handful when one in four marry outside your race?
I didn't say IR slave descent BM have the power to destroy BW or communities involving BW. I said when one in four of you marries outside the race taking your resources with you, it impacts the women from your group left behind and surely contributes in no small way to the lower than 30% marriage rate that you have with each other.
I never said a bunch of self haters with a white fetish had the power to destroy a 500 year old black community of tens of millions.

“I am”

Level 8

Since: Jul 11

The Original Intention

#232 Oct 15, 2013
I'm enjoying reading your posts Harrisson, good information you're putting out.
Ivan

Bucharest, Romania

#233 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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But you'e not VICTORIOUS men are you? You are the oppressed filling jails and unemployment lines. How is it a handful when one in four marry outside your race?
I didn't say IR slave descent BM have the power to destroy BW or communities involving BW. I said when one in four of you marries outside the race taking your resources with you, it impacts the women from your group left behind and surely contributes in no small way to the lower than 30% marriage rate that you have with each other.
I never said a bunch of self haters with a white fetish had the power to destroy a 500 year old black community of tens of millions.
"But you'e not VICTORIOUS men are you? You are the oppressed filling jails and unemployment lines. "

America's Blacks seem like such lost loosers with nothing to show but a few athletes and celebs . majority couldn't care less about them.

I guess they do serve a purpose as far as filling up Americas for profits prison system.

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#234 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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But you're not VICTORIOUS men are you? You are the oppressed filling jails and unemployment lines. How is it a handful when one in four marry outside your race?...
Your original complaint which you addressed to me was NOT about marrying "outside our race." It was about marrying someone from the "oppressor" group.

Mexican-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Native-Americans, Filipino-Americans, etc. are NOT the "oppressor group." White people are the dominant group who have exercised oppressive power over all others in this country for hundreds of years.

The percentage of African-Americans married to a member of the "oppressor group" (White) is but a handful. You CAN'T speak accurately about a people and country you DON'T KNOW, Shalimarr.

Your abject ignorance is very disconcerting.

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#235 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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But you'e not VICTORIOUS men are you? You are the oppressed filling jails and unemployment lines....
Actually, it was not just once but TWICE that President Obama whipped a white electoral challenger in a Presidential contest: Sen. McCain in 2008 and Gov. Romney in 2012.

We both know that voters in the U.K. simply will not put someone with Lewis Hamilton's appearance into the Prime Minister's office for maybe another 20 or 30 years. Maybe longer - LOL! Your country is just not evolved enough for that.

African-American men have won a tremendous moral and economic victory since the days of Dr. King's marches in the South, and we now have a thriving African-American middle-class where virtually none existed at the end of World War II.
Concerned American

Miami, FL

#236 Oct 15, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
But you'e not VICTORIOUS men are you? You are the oppressed filling jails and unemployment lines. How is it a handful when one in four marry outside your race?
I didn't say IR slave descent BM have the power to destroy BW or communities involving BW. I said when one in four of you marries outside the race taking your resources with you, it impacts the women from your group left behind and surely contributes in no small way to the lower than 30% marriage rate that you have with each other.
I never said a bunch of self haters with a white fetish had the power to destroy a 500 year old black community of tens of millions.
You were reported to the police and the moderators of topix. You will get banned for cyber stalking in an unwanted nature. Bullying making lewd and lascivious remarks are totally unacceptable in site. They are fowllowing your every post. I will report you now again!!!

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#237 Oct 15, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Actually, it was not just once but TWICE that President Obama whipped a white electoral challenger in a Presidential contest: Sen. McCain in 2008 and Gov. Romney in 2012.
We both know that voters in the U.K. simply will not put someone with Lewis Hamilton's appearance into the Prime Minister's office for maybe another 20 or 30 years. Maybe longer - LOL! Your country is just not evolved enough for that.
African-American men have won a tremendous moral and economic victory since the days of Dr. King's marches in the South, and we now have a thriving African-American middle-class where virtually none existed at the end of World War II.
Now WHY did I get a "Spam Envelope" and a "Red X" for this??
Haven't I been truthful with Shalimarr? LOL

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