Do foreign BW hate BM?

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#193 Oct 14, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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You again? smh. I was hoping you wouldn't be posting on the AA forum today and obsessing over and harassing black american men you've never even met that wouldn't even look twice at you.
You are a pretty, but you are also full of self hate so AAM wouldn't even show the slightest bit of interest in you.
MOVE ON and stop being agressive when black american men tell you we're not interested.
Yes, that makes sense, Anderson, because AAM are notorious for deciphering between pretty women who like them and pretty women who don't. AAM never approach racist WW either, right?
Look up the definition of "harassment," buddy.

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#194 Oct 14, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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Yes, that makes sense, Anderson, because AAM are notorious for deciphering between pretty women who like them and pretty women who don't. AAM never approach racist WW either, right?
Look up the definition of "harassment," buddy.
I have a feeling that you're going to be here harassing AA men for a while.

And it seems like you just keep getting more and more aggressive.

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#196 Oct 14, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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I have a feeling that you're going to be here harassing AA men for a while.
And it seems like you just keep getting more and more aggressive.
Typical AAM, under-educated, deny their shortcomings and attack and insult others instead of reflecting upon their faults and weaknesses.

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#197 Oct 14, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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Why didn't you just ask the youtube guy? I have no interest in discussing dumb things you read on youtube from people stupider than the ones that post here.
Why the hostility?

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#198 Oct 14, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Thank you for the invitation, Shalimarr.
No, the details of a given "sex act and relationship" do not automatically define a man's political and social views.
When victorious American soldiers and statesmen (white men) of the 1800s made peace with warring Indian tribes and put the terms of peace down on paper, one of the conditions was that the Natives would abstain from attacking or murdering White men or abducting and carrying off White women.
It was obvious to the victors that that the previously warring tribes viewed White women as valuable wives or concubines or slaves, depending on the circumstances. In NO way, did the victors feel comforted that Native warriors "sexual desire to sleep with whites" they had captured, would weaken their Native-ness or love of being Native.(Indeed, one of the most fierce and deadly tribal warriors of the American West, renowned for terrorizing white settlers, was himself born of a white woman.)
Most men understand this intuitively - that having passionate sex with a woman of a different culture or race doesn't diminish pride in ones own heritage.
Women don't understand this as nearly as well because they typically equate a sexual relationship with sweeping, all-encompassing, passionate, romantic love (think of Jane Eyre)-- and want to assume that love for a racially-different sexual partner is simply incompatible with love for one's original heritage.
If you are a woman with the latter perspective, we simply have to "agree to disagree." ;o)
Why would a proud BM choose to go with women from the oppressors race? Women who benefit from white supremacy? Why would a Conscious BM seek to make children who are only half Black.
hwo do you be a Conscious proud BM when you prefer sexual intimacy with white people over Blacks? Surely you have a preference for who you share intimacy and a home with and that preference is for whites.
Not attacking just trying to understand.

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#199 Oct 14, 2013
FlowFighter wrote:
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"He made video critisizing self identified "Conscious" BM, who sleep with WW"
I think..that way down deep in your heart of hearts..you lust for white dik...
That is why you are such a recondite 'hater' of BM-AA or otherwise (African) who have sex with WW.
No?...But of course it's true..
BTW..that cracker lookin' thing in your avi pix and "Shalimarr"....
You're tyring to attract some Teutonic MF to bone your azzz..
Good Luck with that.
ILLOGICAL - your question PRESUPPOSES the answer. Typical AAM logic.

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#200 Oct 14, 2013
FlowFighter wrote:
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"He made video critisizing self identified "Conscious" BM, who sleep with WW"
I think..that way down deep in your heart of hearts..you lust for white dik...
That is why you are such a recondite 'hater' of BM-AA or otherwise (African) who have sex with WW.
No?...But of course it's true..
BTW..that cracker lookin' thing in your avi pix and "Shalimarr"....
You're tyring to attract some Teutonic MF to bone your azzz..
Good Luck with that.
If I wanted white d!ck I would get some. Forget the myths, WM are very very horny and they will fck any reasonable attractive BW who smiles at them. They also love cocaine and weed and are high a lot of the time, even though they don't get arrested or harassed by the police for their drug use.
WM are all about hedonism and fun... much like their women I suspect.
No woman of any race, has to lust unsatisfied for WM, ask Asian chicks, they know :)

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#201 Oct 14, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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Typical AAM, under-educated, deny their shortcomings and attack and insult others instead of reflecting upon their faults and weaknesses.
Why the harassment? And why have you resorted to petty insults? Just take the rejection like a woman. No need to be so offended.
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#202 Oct 14, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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Tbmr, which one of you females is lying the hardest?(obviously both of you are lying), but from your perspective who is lying the hardest? You or TimeforDishonesty?
You say Black men won't even go near a black woman... and she says black men can't stay away.
lol.
You ladies are a trip. Stop harassing AA men. Please.
I believe black men don't want black women.

I don't know what she's talking about, that's between you and her.

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#203 Oct 14, 2013
Tbmr deux wrote:
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I believe black men don't want black women.
I don't know what she's talking about, that's between you and her.
How is it between me and her? It sounds like it's between you and her. Your stories don't really add up.

:)

It's sounds like "harassment" to me.

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#207 Oct 14, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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Why would a proud BM choose to go with women from the oppressors race? Women who benefit from white supremacy? Why would a Conscious BM seek to make children who are only half Black.
hwo do you be a Conscious proud BM when you prefer sexual intimacy with white people over Blacks? Surely you have a preference for who you share intimacy and a home with and that preference is for whites.
Not attacking just trying to understand.
Did you actually read what I said about the American Indian tribesmen???

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#208 Oct 14, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Did you actually read what I said about the American Indian tribesmen???
Those were primitive people. Do you compare American BM to NA savages?

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#209 Oct 14, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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Why would a proud BM choose to go with women from the oppressors race? Women who benefit from white supremacy? Why would a Conscious BM seek to make children who are only half Black.
hwo do you be a Conscious proud BM when you prefer sexual intimacy with white people over Blacks?...
Actually, no I do not have a preference for sexual intimacy with Whites over Blacks. That is your first mistaken assumption.

You will never see a post from me arguing that ww as a group are sexually superior to bw. Other IR black men (trolls) may argue that, but I don't. However, I have told individual black women on Topix who manifest erratic or mentally unstable behavior, that a white woman would easily be the more preferable partner if it meant avoiding that unpleasant conduct.

I tried to provide you with an illustrative example of how IR unions between Whites and Native Americans in the 1800s did not follow the simplistic assumptions you like to make. I'm not sure if you were able to follow the point I was trying to make. Maybe re-reading it would help?

To answer the question "Why would a proud BM choose to go with women from the oppressors race?" you would have to have some insight into the dynamics of male/female relationships in modern, advanced Western societies.

If love is the basis for male/female partnerships, then what is the true test of "love?" Does it revolve, first and foremost, around group identity - like being from a particular race or a particular religion? You seem to think it does.

However, in other cultures or eras, men seem content to look at other criteria -- just as "proud BM" do today. We've seen how the proud Native warriors of the 1800s would occasionally choose to "go with women from the oppressors race" whom they'd captured. Why did they do this? I don't know, but 19th century treaty documents indicate that the kidnappings provoked by this practice concerned White men.

However, those same proud White men would, at their convenience, choose to "go with women from the slave race" whose parents or grandparents had been shipped over from Africa. Some of those White men sired multiple children with their slave mistresses - presumably without being ashamed of being White. And, yes, when these men were married, their White wives were quietly outraged and humiliated by such conduct when it became obvious.

I just find it curious that you seem to be so baffled or perplexed by "proud BM" engaging in the very same sexuality that proud men of all colors have engaged in for probably thousands of years. If anything, modern Black men are the most humane - we ASK these women to share our beds, as opposed to giving them an order while holding a coiled whip in one hand....

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#210 Oct 14, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Actually, no I do not have a preference for sexual intimacy with Whites over Blacks. That is your first mistaken assumption.
You will never see a post from me arguing that ww as a group are sexually superior to bw. Other IR black men (trolls) may argue that, but I don't. However, I have told individual black women on Topix who manifest erratic or mentally unstable behavior, that a white woman would easily be the more preferable partner if it meant avoiding that unpleasant conduct.
I tried to provide you with an illustrative example of how IR unions between Whites and Native Americans in the 1800s did not follow the simplistic assumptions you like to make. I'm not sure if you were able to follow the point I was trying to make. Maybe re-reading it would help?
To answer the question "Why would a proud BM choose to go with women from the oppressors race?" you would have to have some insight into the dynamics of male/female relationships in modern, advanced Western societies.
If love is the basis for male/female partnerships, then what is the true test of "love?" Does it revolve, first and foremost, around group identity - like being from a particular race or a particular religion? You seem to think it does.
However, in other cultures or eras, men seem content to look at other criteria -- just as "proud BM" do today. We've seen how the proud Native warriors of the 1800s would occasionally choose to "go with women from the oppressors race" whom they'd captured. Why did they do this? I don't know, but 19th century treaty documents indicate that the kidnappings provoked by this practice concerned White men.
However, those same proud White men would, at their convenience, choose to "go with women from the slave race" whose parents or grandparents had been shipped over from Africa. Some of those White men sired multiple children with their slave mistresses - presumably without being ashamed of being White. And, yes, when these men were married, their White wives were quietly outraged and humiliated by such conduct when it became obvious.
I just find it curious that you seem to be so baffled or perplexed by "proud BM" engaging in the very same sexuality that proud men of all colors have engaged in for probably thousands of years. If anything, modern Black men are the most humane - we ASK these women to share our beds, as opposed to giving them an order while holding a coiled whip in one hand....
I think your pint would make sense if Black men were not oppressed and victimized by whites. Without White supremacy your comment would make sense.
But WM were not choosing intimacy with people who oppressed them and benefited from their continued oppression. It's the choosing intimacy with someone from the oppressor group I can understand women doing that, but I can't understand men who claim to be "Conscious" racially aware proud BM doing that.
Either you accept that whites benehfit from white supremacy or you think that white women don't while WM do... is that it?

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#211 Oct 14, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Did you actually read what I said about the American Indian tribesmen???
I wasn't asking you about ordinary IRBM who tolerate being Black as a burden they have to carry and can't wait to have half white kids. I was specifically asking you about BM who are part of the Conscious Movement. BM who claim to be proud and soldiers to fight White supremacy and to encourage blacks to regain their self esteem.
Ti totally understand why an oppressed man feels less oppressed and more worthy (more like a WM) when he get's with a WW. Has a white woman walking naked around his apartment and waiting for him when he get's home from his job.
But I was asking you about BM from the Conscious Community, who still sleep with WW and site BW's slave rape as a legitemate reason for sex with whites.
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#212 Oct 14, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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What threats did we allegedly make? How insulting. We can't express our honest issues without being intimidated. No one wants to be around a person who will threaten and intimidate. We did not do anything wrong and we are not scared of you.
You and two other posters were reported to the police, and topix moderators. A complaint was filed against you and others for cyber stalking in a vain sexual aggressive nature. You and others are being watched and hopefully banned from topix permanently. The police got all this information today. We do love a safe and healthy society only the American way without being bullied by cyber terrorists!!

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#213 Oct 14, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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I think your pint would make sense if Black men were not oppressed and victimized by whites. Without White supremacy your comment would make sense.

But WM were not choosing intimacy with people who oppressed them and benefited from their continued oppression. It's the choosing intimacy with someone from the oppressor group....
Shalimarr, I think the fundamental problem you have is that you find it very difficult to distinguish between the widely varying individual behaviors and characteristics of people who share a common general appearance (white skin, brown hair, thin lips,etc). This cognitive block is common with poorly educated people and it leads to misclassification of other human beings (stereotyping) based solely on group identity.

Why else would you insist on labeling a woman like Viola Liuzzo as "someone from the oppressor group??"

I realize that the name Viola Liuzzo probably means nothing to you, but it is a famous name in the history of the African-American civil rights struggle. She quite literally died helping Black people and her story is briefly summarized below:

http://www25.uua.org/uuhs/duub/articles/viola...

Are all white women like Mrs. Liuzzo? No - clearly she was exceptional in her commitment to non-racialism and her willingness to take direct physical action against the system of white supremacy.

It's worth carefully asking oneself if it's simply skin color which makes one a "member of an oppressor group" or if things such as behavior, character and political ideology count as well.

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#214 Oct 14, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Shalimarr, I think the fundamental problem you have is that you find it very difficult to distinguish between the widely varying individual behaviors and characteristics of people who share a common general appearance (white skin, brown hair, thin lips,etc). This cognitive block is common with poorly educated people and it leads to misclassification of other human beings (stereotyping) based solely on group identity.
Why else would you insist on labeling a woman like Viola Liuzzo as "someone from the oppressor group??"
I realize that the name Viola Liuzzo probably means nothing to you, but it is a famous name in the history of the African-American civil rights struggle. She quite literally died helping Black people and her story is briefly summarized below:
http://www25.uua.org/uuhs/duub/articles/viola...
Are all white women like Mrs. Liuzzo? No - clearly she was exceptional in her commitment to non-racialism and her willingness to take direct physical action against the system of white supremacy.
It's worth carefully asking oneself if it's simply skin color which makes one a "member of an oppressor group" or if things such as behavior, character and political ideology count as well.
you seem unable to answer the question. Whites have benefited from the oppression of your group. They don't turn down jobs when they know that their black colleague was better qualified. You would not need to have black colleges and black political group fighting your corner if whites were all nice people who didn't oppress you and happily benefit from it.
You think WW who sleep with BM are different to other white people? White people are not just a skin colour,they are part of their family and part of a culture that sh!ts on your group globally.
you think because a white woman has sex with you, she is not part of the oppression? I disagree with you.

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#215 Oct 14, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Shalimarr, I think the fundamental problem you have is that you find it very difficult to distinguish between the widely varying individual behaviors and characteristics of people who share a common general appearance (white skin, brown hair, thin lips,etc). This cognitive block is common with poorly educated people and it leads to misclassification of other human beings (stereotyping) based solely on group identity.
You are absolutely right, I do think that white people are fundamentally the same. I believe when their back is up against the wall, they will not hesitate to call on white privilege and use it against blacks.
I don't think men like you care at all about character, you only care about character when it comes to BW.
All you care about is a woman having white skin and flattering your ego by having sex with you, making you feel more equal to a white man.
You did not answer my question because you could not. You could not answer why a proud Conscious BM would want to have intimacy with whites when THEY DON'T HAVE A WHIP IN THEIR HAND.
The answer to my question is DEGREES. Some BM are proud or happy to be black by degrees. They are happy being black and enjoy studying and talking about black issues, but the don't want their children to be black and they don't wan the person laying next to them in bed to be black. They want that person to be white or anything other than Black.
The answer to my question is, what I and most people on the planet consider to be a conscious BM, may not be what you or another IRBM thinks a conscious Bm is.
My level of consciousness to self identify in that way, may be a much deeper and meaningful level of consciousness than a man like you who prefers to have sexual intimacy with white people, when there are many black people around.

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#216 Oct 14, 2013
FlowFighter wrote:
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Ummmm..I didn't pose a question
No go take your valium and S*T*F*U
"I think..that way down deep in your heart of hearts..you lust for white dik...
That is why you are such a recondite 'hater' of BM-AA or otherwise (African) who have sex with WW.
No?"

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