Jeff

Framingham, MA

#131 Apr 11, 2011
somali truth wrote:
the jews have 52% of E-M78 egpty y dna jews was slaves in egtpy and get rape their woman the truth you never hear the media most jew call them white and and they are lairs
arabs nor jew is white only west euro is white
jews is denail ydna m78 is not jew y dna is somalia or berber samethink
Ehm, wrong, anyone who is of European ancestry, that includes Western, Southern, Northern and Eastern Europeans, are white.
mlungisi

Brooklyn, NY

#132 Apr 18, 2011
the igbo also say eri came from the sky.igbo have masquerades a 4 day week and yam festival none of that is israelite
Judah

Auburn, WA

#133 May 24, 2011
Yes the Igbo are a Remnant by way of Lower Egypt to the Great Lakes region.

http://www.ndigboswitzerland.org/Docs/Article...

http://igboisrael.blogspot.com/2010/08/igbo-i...

Rabbi cosign

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Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#134 May 24, 2011
Logic wrote:
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How did this thread go from talking about the Igbo tribe in Africa to Jews who came out of EROUPE. If you believe they are not Isralites more power to ya. Do I have to agree wit ya, Hellllll to the No. Let us believe in make believe scriptures, why do you care?
get a life buddy.
Zepaniah 3 10. FROM BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA. MY WORSHIPERS, EVEN THE DAUGHTERS OF MY DISPERSED SHALL BRING THY OFFEREING.
Believe scientific facts:

1. Igbo DNA contains NO Mideastern elements.
2. Ashkenazim DNA is MOSTLY of Mideastern elements.

So who are the Jews? LOL... not you.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#135 May 24, 2011
Wow, I just read the Bible and now I realize that I'm really a Moorish Olmec Hebrew Igbo Etruscan Viking!!!

Now that I know my true identity, I'm tired of all you fake-asses claiming those ethnicities...
Judah

Auburn, WA

#139 May 24, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
Wow, I just read the Bible and now I realize that I'm really a Moorish Olmec Hebrew Igbo Etruscan Viking!!!
Now that I know my true identity, I'm tired of all you fake-asses claiming those ethnicities...
Hi Barros.

Whats the maeaning of Zepaniah 3 10 in your opinion?
Judah

Auburn, WA

#140 May 24, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Believe scientific facts:
1. Igbo DNA contains NO Mideastern elements.
2. Ashkenazim DNA is MOSTLY of Mideastern elements.
So who are the Jews? LOL... not you.
Hi Barros. Ive officially converted to Juadism. Im a Jew now.

sike!

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#141 May 24, 2011
pumper wrote:
i highly doubt it would be Samoans or American Indians. As they are both extremely pagan. It has to be a group that would still practice at least a few of the jewish rituals.
Igbo people do not have the Lost Tribes as ancestors.

The Assyrians, as far as is known, sent the Lost Tribes into exile mostly in Khorassan and parts northeast of there, and into areas around the Assyrian capital. Modern Kurds probably have some Lost Tribe ancestry, along with various Iranians, Afghans, pagan and Christian Turks such as the Cumans, pagan and Muslim Turks such as the Seljuks, the Szeklers, and the Magyars. Hunnic and Avar art seemed to have many Judaic elements. In other words, these peoples all lived in, or passed through, or were near to, areas where the Lost Tribes went.

The Igbos are not among these.

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#142 May 24, 2011
We also need to note that in Samarkand and other cities of medieval Central Asia, there were many Jews. They had been there for untold centuries, and it is likely that many were from Lost Tribe pioneers; maybe others came there after Vespasian and Titus put down the Rebellion.

The upper classes of the Khazar Turks converted to the Judaic faith rather than to Islam or Eastern Orthodox Christianity. These people must have been familiar to some degree with the faith to accept it so readily. That argues for a Jewish presence in Central Asia. Maybe not many people, but some.

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#143 May 24, 2011
I wish to point out that there were many regions where Jews went at one time or another. Many Jews over the years converted to Islam or Christianity, so their DNA heritage is all over the world; even in Mexico it has been found. But while connected to old Israel of the time of Solomon, most such people generally are/were NOT connected to the Lost Tribes.

As for the Lost Tribes, I think the only people intimately connected to them must be found in Western or Central Asia, and maybe some parts east of there.

Since the Middle Ages though, Jewish people have traveled all over the place, and many of these distinctions have been lost. There is probably no reliable way these days to say if someone had, or had not, a Lost Tribe in his ancestry.
Shaul

United States

#146 Feb 1, 2012
Yes the igbos are real part of the lost tribe of jacob ,even the bible made it know that moses & solomon were all black men ,i have seen much similarties between the igbo and jewish custom ,language and skin colour .come to the land & you see what i mean the igbos have accepeted that identity and no one can take it away from us , the current jews are fake ,or will Yahweh distroy his own people as the holocust
Samuel Williams

Edgware, UK

#148 May 9, 2012
specific reply to Barros Serrano

I'd like to take a look at the genetic evidence firstly. The genetic proof is based upon the biological dna evidence which is based upon the theory of evolution which is further based upon the theory that everyone came out of Africa: e.g. that apes came first then apes and Africans are similar and therefore they were next so forth and so on. Now the problem with that type of science is firstly true science doesnt presuppose anything it should follow the evidence as it is understood at the time. And, the real problem is that as we should know that knowledge increases over time and things change. The Lemba have blown a big whole in the theory of out of Africa or have at least shown that their dna demonstartes that they have gone from being an out of so called African race to being patently Agfircan looking people who actually look exactly like their African neighbours.

Secondly, who knows what we will find tomorrow that the genetic theories dna evidence is based on could alter radically in terms of how we approach dna and how we interpret it in the future. So, now we see a massive distance between the Igbo and other modern jewish groups but tomorrow we may discover something that actually bridges the gap. Or the alternative could be that the groups that have a great deal of cmh in the dna could have mixed with another group before they split thus giving them a similar genetic grouping. As the Igbo are recorded to have left first i.e. before the first temple which would acount for them not sharing this other common identity marker. Because the cmh marker is based on the theory that those who share this marker are from Aaaron but the reality is that it could be just those who happen to share this similar gene inherited it from another source just before they left after the second temple destruction. The only way we can know for definite is if we are able to sample the gene of Aaron hismelf or those we know are closely related to him. We to date do not have that sample to compare.

There is no doubt that the Igbo mixed with others in their long history but does that make them none hebrew. Well to use your standard just because you absorb a few non-Hebrews does that make you non Hebrew.

The rock solid evidence we do have is that the Igbo language has specific linguistic markers related to excatly the time they would have left Israel this is going to be virtually impossible to fake or recreate. Cultural practices too give a clear indication and some acheaological evidence. Also the historians like josephus have documanted Hebrews being in the area of west Africa and others. The question is simple: where did they go? Also, all the Igbo have the same story so we will have to accept that they are all telling a lie a mass lie. That sound like a conspiracy theory to me. When you add up the facts that do not change we get Hebrew when we look at the scientific possibilities of change and increase of knowledge we see greater possiblities for doubt. science is a snap shot in time of our knolwedge in any given moment but no more than that genetic knowledge is not an exact science yet.
Prof Awodwa

Durban, South Africa

#150 Aug 15, 2012
To:Barros Serrano
I like u man, here in South Africa u'll never see a Lemba person making noise about some fake DNA. All they knw is theyr BLACK and practice Bantu customs.

While in West Africa FAKE claims have been going around for years. This is all happening to boost some tribes image.
Prof Awodwa

Durban, South Africa

#151 Aug 15, 2012
To:Mlungisi Wright
I came for specifically u on this thread. One Nigerian chap asked an AA lady who claim to be Yoruba, if she practiced Yoruba culture or spoke Yoruba to make such claims. The lady kept quiet and started insults, AAs use the latest DNA technology to to boost their images by faking AFRICAN ROOTS. Remember ur confidence was DENTED BY SLAVERY.

In this case lying about their origins. In SA we have 3 million Boers, who can tell u theyr WHITE/European. Will never in any day claim to be 100% Dutch, recent studies show that Boers are 40% Dutch,30% German,20% British,10% other European. Boers are a mixture of these people after 300 years in Africa. Remember Dutch came earlier in 1652-1750s then came few French Huguenots, Dutch were then attacked and replaced by British. The Boers took over in the 1900s when Brits decided to leave. Other European ancestry in Boers comes from Europeans who fled Germany after NAZIs fell and others (Portugese,English) came from other parts of Africa.

These people my friend gave birth to Boers. My point is its stupid for u to think ur an IGBO, after years of inside SLAVE BREEDING in US. Remember slaves were shifted from state to state inside US. Unlike West Indies, South and Central America where slaves were able to keep their culture and language.

http://research.history.org/historical_resear...

who="mlungisi"]the igbo also say eri came from the sky.igbo have masquerades a 4 day week and yam festival none of that is israelite
Judah

Seattle, WA

#152 Sep 30, 2012
Prof Awodwa wrote:
To:Mlungisi Wright
I came for specifically u on this thread. One Nigerian chap asked an AA lady who claim to be Yoruba, if she practiced Yoruba culture or spoke Yoruba to make such claims. The lady kept quiet and started insults, AAs use the latest DNA technology to to boost their images by faking AFRICAN ROOTS. Remember ur confidence was DENTED BY SLAVERY.
In this case lying about their origins. In SA we have 3 million Boers, who can tell u theyr WHITE/European. Will never in any day claim to be 100% Dutch, recent studies show that Boers are 40% Dutch,30% German,20% British,10% other European. Boers are a mixture of these people after 300 years in Africa. Remember Dutch came earlier in 1652-1750s then came few French Huguenots, Dutch were then attacked and replaced by British. The Boers took over in the 1900s when Brits decided to leave. Other European ancestry in Boers comes from Europeans who fled Germany after NAZIs fell and others (Portugese,English) came from other parts of Africa.
These people my friend gave birth to Boers. My point is its stupid for u to think ur an IGBO, after years of inside SLAVE BREEDING in US. Remember slaves were shifted from state to state inside US. Unlike West Indies, South and Central America where slaves were able to keep their culture and language.
http://research.history.org/historical_resear...
who="mlungisi"]the igbo also say eri came from the sky.igbo have masquerades a 4 day week and yam festival none of that is israelite
your ignorant. igbo observe most if not all the rituals outlined in torah. I'd love to school you.

cont..
moor83

Chicago Heights, IL

#153 Sep 30, 2012
research king og in the bible.

ogbomoshe, names of that nature is west africa..the argob region...where the real black greeks come from
Prof Awodwa

Durban, South Africa

#155 Oct 3, 2012
To:Mlungisi Wright
I hve been checking u online bro. Ur an AA born in 1977 and short, ILLITURATE, jobless dummy. I knw u long for sense of belonging. The trueth is it stupid for AAs to claim to be a certain tribe after 400 years of SLAVES BREEDING. Pls research on SLAVE BREEDING. A Mandingo,Wolof,Akan,Mende etc..intermarried with Kongo,Igbo,Makua etc..for 400 years and gave birth to AAs.

Same thing happened in other areas of Americas.
Prof Awodwa

Durban, South Africa

#157 Oct 3, 2012
To:Sam

The problem with Nigeria is TRIBALISM(hence theyr killing each other as we speak).All tribes think theyr superior to others. Forgeting that theyr are all related to one another linguistically and culturally, even genetically. Hence theyr NIGERIANS.

In SOUTH AFRICA we have Bantu people who have European genes but theyr not desparate to be making claims abt Europeans roots. Theyr proud BANTUS. Im talking of people like Winnie Mandela(her European ancestor was a Dutch sailor who came to Xhosas after ship wreck in the coast of SE South Africa). Most SA blacks are lighter than all Africans this is a result of their Khoisan ancestry and abit of European,Indian blood.

EXAMPLE.

Skhoji (A group of Xhosa speaking people who mainly occupy the small town called Tsolo on the Tsitsa valley. They are the direct descendants of a Scottish man by the name of William Saunders who befriended a Xhosa girl and later had issue.)Again that Scottish blood has been washed away for centuries thru intermarriage with different tribes.
naturaltruths

Fontana, CA

#158 Oct 4, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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The Igbo Jews do not appear until the mid 700s AD, neither they nor most other African have any Jewish lineages, most are converts in later times. Even genetics confirms this since most Africans, ESPECIALLY WEST AFRICANS do not have Middle Eastern genetic markers.
"Certain Igbos due to their conversion to the Christian faith felt they could identify with the persecution of the Jews in the Bible. They then carried this feeling overboard and went further to declare themselves Jews and start an Igbo-Jewish movement. So while there are now Igbo Jews because they have decided to convert to that faith, Igbos are not ethnically, genetically, or biologically Jews or Hebrew. Igbo Jews often like to make claims comparing similar aspects of Igbo culture and Jewish/Hebrew culture, but as can be demonstrated, human beings all over the globe think and act similarly to an extent that numerous similarities can be drawn up between any two randomly selected cultures or societies."
Hush....your ignorance is making too much noise in here...

First...

Jews of the bible were what you would consider "black" people today...

Different Shades of brown people with a black complexion...

The Jews were described as such by Greek and Persian historians...

The modern day "Jews" of Israel....are maybe 12% mixed Jews of the Bible....the rest and Majority of the population are "Jewish" meaning they adopted the faith but aren't of the Biblical Jew Bloodline or people...which are the Ashkenazi Jews...

The other 10 tribes (Majority of them) Scattered all throughout Africa...You really think the Jews are going to leave their land of milk and honey and go to the middle eastern desert...? No...they are going to go to the Continent of Milk and Honey... AFRICA....and there travels would have carried them and scattered them to the West coast of Africa...

Even the biblical prophecies and descriptions of the Jews tell you they are "black/brown" (richly-melanated people) and not the (White) looking ashkenazi jew you see today in control of the false non-biblical Israel....

The only (White) jews that may have the true blood of the biblical jews are the ones that have traces of black traits...(curly hair, smooth tan, or brown skin, etc)

You see how black people are hated in this world....That is why Jews and Jesus christ who came from the Jews was and is hated in this world...
naturaltruths

Fontana, CA

#159 Oct 4, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
How could they "absorb" their own DNA? They were already Hebrews.
Hebrews, like other northern Mideasterners, are predominantly of Y-type J2. Are the Igbo J2? No, they have none of it. I posted already a genetic study showing this.
DNA doesn't lie folks. You have to stop thinking you can get around it with various excuses. But there it is...
The Hebrews were not black, folks. J2. Just like Lebanon, Syria, etc. Then and now, the same people.
Funny how it was some white scientist...that declared what the gene for the Jew bloodline was and called it something and

The problem with your findings and science in general is you missed that many of those genetic markers were done according to Jewish communities...meaning they tested (even people who were "jewish" practicing of the faith but not of the blood) to determine the blood of Jews....That is stupid...

The Jews they tested were of largely non-biblical jew blood...they were a mix of 2 out of 12 tribes that remained after the romans broke up the kingdom and the ashkenazi tribes and european, middle eastern, etc people....

A large part of the studies has been done on Ashkenazi jews who are NOT biblical blood jews...they simply adopted the faith...not true Jews...

2 out of the 12 tribes might look middle eastern/white today...but the other 10 are black/brown...and have always been black/brown..

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