Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#1317 Mar 21, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
I assure you most blacks don't need validation. If you see a grown adult struggling with self esteem that isn't your fight. I see women and men all the time who seem down etc. For all I know there cat could have just died. Unless I know them, I leave them be.
Not to mention lots of you guys believing blacks need you to cheer them on, aren't much yourselves.
but not helping a person who is dealing with depression is not good.
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#1 cause of suicide is untreated depression. and low self esteem is one possible cause of depression.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1318 Mar 21, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
Trust me Cognito, I wouldn't marry you if you were the last man on earth. I'd welcome human extinction.
As I've said, you constantly throw attacks but yet believe personal attacks are something you are too good to endure. Sorry, but I find lots of your posts just as distasteful as you find my own.
So, are we going to continue to point this out everytime we respond to each other?
Now in regards to the resources argument. As I've said, you have the choice to have whatever relationship you choose with your spouse. However, in terms of the average working American, especially the average black american, what you are proposing doesn't work. Women, who on average, are dealing with males who don't have lots in terms of assets, are deeply offended if he attempts to use what LITTLE he has as leverage in a relationship which is rooted on love (or at least should be). The two are in direct opposition of each other. They aren't speaking the same language. This, imo, explains the divorce rate where money/resources are still the number one reason cited.
If you can't understand the problem with your thinking, well I don't know what else to tell ya.
First of all, I wouldn't trust you with the Hubble telescope trained on you 24/7. Secondly, I don't recall introducing any hypothetical regarding marrying you, it was you who uttered those frightening words. Personally, I would rather walk through fire with gas drawers on before I were to even contemplate such a thing, besides were I ever in a suicidal state, I would choose a quick and painless method not a protracted excruciatingly painful one like dealing with your azz in a, I dare say.......marriage!

I am willing to juxtapose my body of post on Topix to yours anytime, which will attest to the fact that I have never attacked, impugned, insulted nor addressed an ad hominem towards anyone who did not fire upon me first. While on the other hand there is copious evidence attesting to you attacking and insulting black men collectively and individually, as well as those women who do not share your views.

You clearly subscribe to the mindset that insults are something you are entitled to give, but not receive and that women should be able to slap, punch, verbally insult, emasculate and berate men and men should not return fire under any circumstances. And while I agree with the physical part to some extent, I'll make an exception in your case on the verbal aspect.

Now, where was I......oh yeah.......you're an Idiot! Here is the summation of your debating style:
Cogito: Dreams, what is a dog?
Dreams: The opposite of a cat.
Cogito: Then what is a cat?
Dream: The opposite of a dog.
Cogito: That makes no sense and you have yet to define either.
Dreams: It's sunny outside today and theirs a shoe sale at Macy's.

Post script: You have never know what to tell me, so please don't start attempting to now! I know that you love my attention, but Imma have to put away now because you have exhausted your time allocation.

Level 3

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#1320 Mar 21, 2013
Sadbuttrue wrote:
<quoted text>MACEO
Black women are practicing the same thing now! LMAO I have GF who only date White men only and yes, there dark skin and very pretty!
I do the same thing. I look out for myself and I'm not accepting of Black males now. I"m not lowering my standards..........
Many Black based on what Black men have done are applying the same standards. It appears according to the dating sites that Black men have to compete for top notch Black women who normally seek out white males according to many dating sites.
I think there's something wrong with people who dismiss a whole race of men out of hand because of what a few men in that group are supposedly like. Sounds really racist. Now mind you, I am married to a white man but only because he happens to be the one I fell in love with. I would never denigrate my brothers. If one MF does me wrong, that falls on him, not every black man out there.
Penis Wrangler

Roseland, NJ

#1321 Mar 21, 2013
I bet B kicked Kelly out of Destinys Child because she was jealous of Kellys HugePenis.
London

Powell, OH

#1322 Mar 21, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, I wouldn't trust you with the Hubble telescope trained on you 24/7. Secondly, I don't recall introducing any hypothetical regarding marrying you, it was you who uttered those frightening words. Personally, I would rather walk through fire with gas drawers on before I were to even contemplate such a thing, besides were I ever in a suicidal state, I would choose a quick and painless method not a protracted excruciatingly painful one like dealing with your azz in a, I dare say.......marriage!
I am willing to juxtapose my body of post on Topix to yours anytime, which will attest to the fact that I have never attacked, impugned, insulted nor addressed an ad hominem towards anyone who did not fire upon me first. While on the other hand there is copious evidence attesting to you attacking and insulting black men collectively and individually, as well as those women who do not share your views.
You clearly subscribe to the mindset that insults are something you are entitled to give, but not receive and that women should be able to slap, punch, verbally insult, emasculate and berate men and men should not return fire under any circumstances. And while I agree with the physical part to some extent, I'll make an exception in your case on the verbal aspect.
Now, where was I......oh yeah.......you're an Idiot! Here is the summation of your debating style:
Cogito: Dreams, what is a dog?
Dreams: The opposite of a cat.
Cogito: Then what is a cat?
Dream: The opposite of a dog.
Cogito: That makes no sense and you have yet to define either.
Dreams: It's sunny outside today and theirs a shoe sale at Macy's.
Post script: You have never know what to tell me, so please don't start attempting to now! I know that you love my attention, but Imma have to put away now because you have exhausted your time allocation.
Beside the Dream reference, this post was simply lol.

I would like to point out to you that the proper response to someone using ad hominems would be to end the debate. Once you use them back, you are guilty of using ad hominems. And sorry but I can assure you, you've certainly attacked first plenty.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1323 Mar 21, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
Beside the Dream reference, this post was simply lol.
I would like to point out to you that the proper response to someone using ad hominems would be to end the debate. Once you use them back, you are guilty of using ad hominems. And sorry but I can assure you, you've certainly attacked first plenty.
Oh, I don't mind you attacking, just don't cry like an empowered woman who initiates a rhetorical fist-a-cuff and suddenly realizes that she is no longer covered by enough chivalrous insurance. And if you believed what you are "pointing out" to me, then why do you not follow your own advice and silence yourself? You see how illogical you are? And once again, You and I have exchanges, not debates; you utter nonsense and I render a public service by challenging and refuting it!
London

Powell, OH

#1324 Mar 21, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I don't mind you attacking, just don't cry like an empowered woman who initiates a rhetorical fist-a-cuff and suddenly realizes that she is no longer covered by enough chivalrous insurance. And if you believed what you are "pointing out" to me, then why do you not follow your own advice and silence yourself? You see how illogical you are? And once again, You and I have exchanges, not debates; you utter nonsense and I render a public service by challenging and refuting it!
Sorry but the last time I checked licking ones own azz was not considered a public service.
Sadbuttrue

Ashburn, VA

#1325 Mar 21, 2013
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
Kelly Rowland Says She Hated Her Dark Skin Color Until Beyonce’s Mom Helped Her Embrace Her ‘Chocolatiness’
Kelly Rowland recently opened up about this unfortunate time in her past during an interview with Cherise Nicole from CNikky, while attending the 2013 Essence Black Women In Hollywood luncheon last month.
“You know what I had great women in my life to help me overcome that. I remember I went through a period where I didn’t embrace my ‘chocolatiness.’ I don’t know if that’s a word, but I didn’t embrace my chocolate lifestyle. Just being a chocolate, lovely brown skin girl and being proud of that. I remember Tina Knowles, Bey’s mom and I remember being out in the sun and I was trying to shield myself from the sun and she said,‘Are you crazy?’ She said ‘You are absolutely gorgeous’ and she just told me how beautiful I was and how rare chocolate is and how gorgeous the skin is, all of this stuff. And I was just like ‘Yeah!’ Like a light went off. So between her and my mother and then me sitting out in the sun a little more, just to be a little more chocolate. You just embrace it. You embrace everything that you are as a woman, even your flaws too,” Kelly told CNikky.com .
We’re glad that Mama Knowles was able to step in and knock some sense into Kelly, because not realizing her skin’s awesomeness is too much for us to handle.
Read more at http://bossip.com/739417/poor-thang-kelly-row...
Where is the Obese Staker?
Sadbuttrue

Ashburn, VA

#1326 Mar 21, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I don't mind you attacking, just don't cry like an empowered woman who initiates a rhetorical fist-a-cuff and suddenly realizes that she is no longer covered by enough chivalrous insurance. And if you believed what you are "pointing out" to me, then why do you not follow your own advice and silence yourself? You see how illogical you are? And once again, You and I have exchanges, not debates; you utter nonsense and I render a public service by challenging and refuting it!
MACEO

Why are only your profiles posting and you talking to yourself? Aren't you almost 60 years old? LMAO

Blog:

Where are these fantasy wonderful black men? The socialization of black males in our society promotes that they be DBR to be considered “a man”, which means they are the exact opposite of what women need and desire in a spouse.

It makes me wonder how hetereosexual most black men really are, because black men play to each other more than they play to women. Black men want to be part of the group and be accepted by other black men more than they want to be loved and accepted by women. Black men want to be admired and given kudos by other black men more than they want to be admired and given kudos by black women. That means a great many black men are nothing but undercover gay blades. They seek the attention and adoration and companionship of other men more than they seek those things from women. That means you are suspect.

Cheating, lying, gaming on women – all supported and encouraged by the DBR buddies they love so much. Even doing stupid criminal acts in groups is done to get the perceived ego boost received from having their DBR buddies egg them on and give them dap like they’ve done something amazing and equivalent to earning a Nobel Prize.

Look around you!

Where are all these amazing black men? The ones that honor and respect women, honor and respect children, are kind to strangers, supportive of the goals of their loved ones and neighbors?

Where are the black men that don’t lie to women to use them for sex or pimp them for money?

Where are the black men that don’t fold like a bad poker hand at the first sign of a struggle?

Where are the black men who don’t have a criminal record?

Where are the black men who focus on education and laying down a solid financial foundation for the future while young instead of how many women they can bag?

Where are the black men that a black woman knows has her back, and will protect her and her babies from harm?
Sadbuttrue

Ashburn, VA

#1327 Mar 21, 2013
The forum is filled with Only Old Ass Maceo's comments who is a 60 year old fool!

Why does MACEO profiles dominate the 90% of the AFAM forum on Hate messages to Black women?

Explain why MACEO?

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1328 Mar 22, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry but the last time I checked licking ones own azz was not considered a public service.


Come on....you can do better than that! That was weaker than kool-aid with no sugar!
Cold as ice

Perth, Australia

#1329 Mar 22, 2013
Janette. I just dont see the problem with reassurance. If someone is feeling bad, who cares if you have to prop them up 200 times. Its called having humility and compassion for another human. To these women, what you have is better than what they think they have. If you know better, you should educate them that that is not the right way to think. We both know its not but obviously they dont. If you are not into spreding the love thats cool. But dont complain about how bw veiw themselves if you are not going to positively contribute.
Donna

Chicago, IL

#1330 Mar 22, 2013
Cold as ice wrote:
Janette. I just dont see the problem with reassurance. If someone is feeling bad, who cares if you have to prop them up 200 times. Its called having humility and compassion for another human. To these women, what you have is better than what they think they have. If you know better, you should educate them that that is not the right way to think. We both know its not but obviously they dont. If you are not into spreding the love thats cool. But dont complain about how bw veiw themselves if you are not going to positively contribute.
Ain't nobody got time for that! Trying to teach self esteem to grown women is not my job! If you hate you own skin color that's not my fault and don't take your issues out on me

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#1331 Mar 22, 2013
Donna wrote:
<quoted text> Ain't nobody got time for that! Trying to teach self esteem to grown women is not my job! If you hate you own skin color that's not my fault and don't take your issues out on me
it is called being a good Christian to help others out.
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would you feel the same if it was a family member? or would you rather help them out of the depression as best as you could?
Donna

Chicago, IL

#1332 Mar 22, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
<quoted text>
it is called being a good Christian to help others out.
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would you feel the same if it was a family member? or would you rather help them out of the depression as best as you could?
sweetie you are white so you would never understand this is an issue concerning black people ONLY!! Being a good Christian has nothing to do with this issue! Lighter skin black women get treated like shi usually by dark skin black women because they have such a complex about their skin color. I'm not going to allow someone to treat me bad just because they are dark and I'm light. Thats no different than letting a white person treat you bad just because you are black. When it comes this issue you should stay out of it if you have never experienced it and you never will. Remember this is a black forum some issues we discuss you will never be able to relate too or understand

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1333 Mar 22, 2013
Cold as ice wrote:
Janette. I just dont see the problem with reassurance. If someone is feeling bad, who cares if you have to prop them up 200 times. Its called having humility and compassion for another human. To these women, what you have is better than what they think they have. If you know better, you should educate them that that is not the right way to think. We both know its not but obviously they dont. If you are not into spreding the love thats cool. But dont complain about how bw veiw themselves if you are not going to positively contribute.
Good point cold! In fact, the time to really prove you love for a person is when they are feeling an emotional deficit. This is one of the issues that I have with contemporary love and even platonic friendships.....no one wants to aid, struggle or be there for and with anyone during their dark times. We have all devolved into INDIVIDUALIST, having been deluded by Hollywood and Madison avenue that life is supposed to be one endless session of euphoria. It's easy to be with someone and partake in their perfections of character, but the opportunistic time to show you love and loyalties is when these imperfect moments rear their heads.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1334 Mar 22, 2013
Donna wrote:
<quoted text> Ain't nobody got time for that! Trying to teach self esteem to grown women is not my job! If you hate you own skin color that's not my fault and don't take your issues out on me
Dee, I see your point as well, but maybe because I am a man, my view in this regard is a bit different. I encounter sisters every day who are struggling with some self esteem issue, body image problem, identity crisis etc., and as a brother, while I don't feel it's my RESPONSIBILITY to fix them, but neither does it cost me anything to lend my empathetic perspective in the hope that it may resonate with them in some positive way. I've learned that as a man, A little kindness, empathy and consideration can sometimes produce great dividends because we as men sometimes take for granted these issues because we don't struggle with them in the same way. But, I do indeed get your point!
Jannette

Astoria, NY

#1335 Mar 22, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
Your genetics don't change due to social needs. Your genetics are your genetics and if a group is concerned about genetic survival well they need to mate with someone who shares there genetic code. Therefore, the only blacks genetically are those who are mating and producing kids with other blacks.
What you say is technically true (that your racial background is your genetic makeup,and is not what race society deems you to be.However in a society that is biased against a certain racial group,for whatever reason(the reason in U.S.being a result of black slavery), then that society may not just go by genetics,but designate people to be of one race or another on whatever criteria the racial prejudice of that society deems (in U.S,it's the "one drop rule")
In U.S. one drop of black made a n=gro,and one needed to be 100 percent white to be considered white,which in the case of the "one drop rule" disregards genetics altogether.
And really while you say that your genetic makeup is the only measurement of your true racial background,rather than society's rule,of what good does that genetic makeup do one,if it is,as in some cases. unrecognized by society? If as in the U.S. the majority of society has gone by the "one drop rule,then your genetic makeup becomes sort of null and unrecognized, and might as well not exist,if society at every turn,never designate your racial makeup as bi racial,creole,nor mestizo,but describe your racial makeup by the "ome drop rule" black,or n-gro.?
Jannette

Astoria, NY

#1336 Mar 22, 2013
Donna wrote:
<quoted text> I don't let it bother me much anymore when I was a teenager the darker skin girls really really were jealous of light skin pretty girls and even as an adult it still goes on but I have a better understanding now. It's because dark skin girls really get discriminated on mostly by black men (dark themselves) and its real sad so they take out their issues out on us instead of who really deserves the bad treatment Bm. I get tired of constantly have to prove to them " just because I'm light skin I don't think I'm better" I try to be sympathetic to them and try to understand their pain but sometimes the jealously and attitude is just to much to deal with so I stay away. I don't time to be on trial for my skin color 24/7
I got you. But in all honesty though this self doubt may be caused by black men's not valuing dark skinned gals physical looks,I find this self doubt mostly among black women who are under achievers. You take your dark skinned black female medical student,or dark skinned female physician,or dark skinned female PHD and they don't have these personal hangups,because life has risen them higher than such petty self doubt. And thank goodness for those who have found better aims in life than what some stupid black men who are themselves dark skinned,who don't know their -ass from a hole in the ground,but devalue the dark skin,and Afro hair of black women.

Hungry Man

Roseland, NJ

#1337 Mar 22, 2013
I bet Kellys Putang is a sweet and delectable treat. MM MM GOOD...

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