Kelly Rowland Says She Hated Her Dark...
London

Memphis, TN

#1297 Mar 20, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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Well, you always seem to take an antithetical position to reality, leaving me to deductively conclude that you two at some point in the past must of had a big falling out and you are now holding a grudge against her. Because I have never encountered anyone who denies or argues counter to reality as much as you do.
You need not lecture me about the ethos of marriage, but suffice it to say, you can never eliminate the human components of "desire to control" and "greed and selfishness" from the marital dynamic. People, by biological design, are primarily committed to the own survival, needs and wants and will usually leverage from within the confines of marriage what they perceive to be their power in order to secure those things that they need and want. A PIECE OF PAPER FROM CITY HALL IS NO MATCH FOR HUMAN BIOLOGY!
So, while your theoretical rules of what should and should not take place within the confines of marriage are nice, they however, more times than not, are just suggestible rules lying dormant in some e-book being sold on Amazon by the latest marital guru anointed by your girl OPRAH.
And as far as your rambling incoherent dissertation on NETWORTH, I'll simply point you back to that whole "you and reality" thing. How is a that woman with a child, always running a budget deficit for the material things that she need and wants for herself and her child not "just existing?"
She has no operational latitude or margin of era because should she lose her job, a three day notice will soon appear on her apartment door. And how exactly does she have freedom when she spends 40-60 hours a week selling her labor for a pay check, returning home to cook and care for her child and then try to grab a couple of hours of sleep before she begins the whole cycle over again?
If the poor child needs $30 dollars for a field trip....Mama don't have it to spare! Economics directly effect the quality of all our lives. So Stop being so stubborn and sit down and break bread with reality and end this thing between you two!
Hi.

Have you ever thought your "reality" is a f!ck'd reality?? If YOU choose to run your marriage negotiating resources and love, that's your business. However, for most of us, that doesn't make for a happy existence. It also is a contributor to divorce (where women in general come off better financially anyway). So, hey, play the game as you choose. Who am I to judge? As I've said, women like myself (the majority) don't consider resources and love as side items in a marriage. In fact, women like myself find you absurd. What good does it do men to play that sort of game given the divorce rates where women come out in general better? What good does it do the average married black couple where they in general don't have much money to begin with?

No wonder so many of them are so unhappy together and would rather live in a cardboard box than with each other. You once again, don't make sense.

As far as the risk of losing one job, well it's a GOOD RISK. Part of living in a capalistic society is about inherent risk when one takes action. It's the same risk a business owners take.

Do SOME mothers struggle to meet the wants of their children? Sure. But it certainly isn't all; and usually it isn't all the time. Some struggle is even beneficial to the child as it teaches them that what we want and need in this world must be worked for.

But thankfully, the babymama culture is dying anyway and these women will be free as birds to enjoy life and take advantage of opportunities which will increase their freedoms.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1298 Mar 20, 2013
London wrote:
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Hi.
Have you ever thought your "reality" is a f!ck'd reality?? If YOU choose to run your marriage negotiating resources and love, that's your business. However, for most of us, that doesn't make for a happy existence. It also is a contributor to divorce (where women in general come off better financially anyway). So, hey, play the game as you choose. Who am I to judge? As I've said, women like myself (the majority) don't consider resources and love as side items in a marriage. In fact, women like myself find you absurd. What good does it do men to play that sort of game given the divorce rates where women come out in general better? What good does it do the average married black couple where they in general don't have much money to begin with?
No wonder so many of them are so unhappy together and would rather live in a cardboard box than with each other. You once again, don't make sense.
As far as the risk of losing one job, well it's a GOOD RISK. Part of living in a capalistic society is about inherent risk when one takes action. It's the same risk a business owners take.
Do SOME mothers struggle to meet the wants of their children? Sure. But it certainly isn't all; and usually it isn't all the time. Some struggle is even beneficial to the child as it teaches them that what we want and need in this world must be worked for.
But thankfully, the babymama culture is dying anyway and these women will be free as birds to enjoy life and take advantage of opportunities which will increase their freedoms.
So, it is your contention that the economic status of a man is not a motive or consideration for women in selecting a mate? That all women are simply romantic purist and are driven by the singular motive of emotional love? Your logic and reasoning is non existent and does not reflect or resemble reality in the least.

And please, Identify for me Most women that are like you who would think me absurd so that I can stay as far away from them as possible. Marriage is not a place of perpetual happiness, it is fraught with complications just as are non marital relationships. So, if anything the divorce rate is what it is because SILLY BIRDS like you have been conditioned to believe that Marriage is a panacea for all of your unhappy moments in life but implores you to keep a Jewish attorney on speed dial as a back up plan in case you discover this emotional utopia was a fairytale.

It's pointless to go on with you because you are trying TOO HARD, not to get the point! An angry or upset women within a marriage leverages access to sex until her anger abates or until her husband capitulates to her demands, but you think that the man with resources should simply roll over and allow you unabated access to the money to go shopping and dining after you have fcked up his day being difficult with some of your emotional bullshyt, and should he so dares to leverage his power against you....he is playing games?

You are presuming to speak on behalf of both, women and US men; telling us what risk we should take or accept...Your ego knows no bounds! Feminist ideology has rotted your brain and robbed you of the little common sense you were born with. And if fate ever decided to exact it's cruel and evil retribution against me for some shyt I did in a previous life by sitting me across the table from you in a restaurant conducting a nocturnal interview (I hesitate to call it a date), and I heard you spill this nonsense;I would drop two or three yards on the waiter and instruct him to settle the bill, give my regrets and to call Miss Jane Pittman a taxi while I squeezed my azz out of the bathroom window and disappeared into the darkness of the night!

Abbia una buona giornata!
London

Powell, OH

#1299 Mar 20, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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So, it is your contention that the economic status of a man is not a motive or consideration for women in selecting a mate? That all women are simply romantic purist and are driven by the singular motive of emotional love? Your logic and reasoning is non existent and does not reflect or resemble reality in the least.
And please, Identify for me Most women that are like you who would think me absurd so that I can stay as far away from them as possible. Marriage is not a place of perpetual happiness, it is fraught with complications just as are non marital relationships. So, if anything the divorce rate is what it is because SILLY BIRDS like you have been conditioned to believe that Marriage is a panacea for all of your unhappy moments in life but implores you to keep a Jewish attorney on speed dial as a back up plan in case you discover this emotional utopia was a fairytale.
It's pointless to go on with you because you are trying TOO HARD, not to get the point! An angry or upset women within a marriage leverages access to sex until her anger abates or until her husband capitulates to her demands, but you think that the man with resources should simply roll over and allow you unabated access to the money to go shopping and dining after you have fcked up his day being difficult with some of your emotional bullshyt, and should he so dares to leverage his power against you....he is playing games?
You are presuming to speak on behalf of both, women and US men; telling us what risk we should take or accept...Your ego knows no bounds! Feminist ideology has rotted your brain and robbed you of the little common sense you were born with. And if fate ever decided to exact it's cruel and evil retribution against me for some shyt I did in a previous life by sitting me across the table from you in a restaurant conducting a nocturnal interview (I hesitate to call it a date), and I heard you spill this nonsense;I would drop two or three yards on the waiter and instruct him to settle the bill, give my regrets and to call Miss Jane Pittman a taxi while I squeezed my azz out of the bathroom window and disappeared into the darkness of the night!
Abbia una buona giornata!
Economic status/potential is a factor for women because we are all, unless we are some low lifes on the other end, looking for more freedoms and comforts. If you believe women are getting with a guy with a decent amount of resources just to end up miserable, well no wonder so many marriages are done and women are choosing to make their own money.

I'm not going to waste too much time with you, as I've said, you apparently have insecurity issues (as well as parroting issues) where you believe women get married just to be controlled with the resources which should make all in the family feel more free and comfortable. You don't understand love and you certainly don't understand family life nor married life. Living with you must be hell on earth. My sympathies to your wife.

Apparently you feel it is a blow to your ego for your partner to actually feel joy and happiness. What a miserable way to live.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1300 Mar 20, 2013
London wrote:
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Economic status/potential is a factor for women because we are all, unless we are some low lifes on the other end, looking for more freedoms and comforts. If you believe women are getting with a guy with a decent amount of resources just to end up miserable, well no wonder so many marriages are done and women are choosing to make their own money.
I'm not going to waste too much time with you, as I've said, you apparently have insecurity issues (as well as parroting issues) where you believe women get married just to be controlled with the resources which should make all in the family feel more free and comfortable. You don't understand love and you certainly don't understand family life nor married life. Living with you must be hell on earth. My sympathies to your wife.
Apparently you feel it is a blow to your ego for your partner to actually feel joy and happiness. What a miserable way to live.
LOL! Ad hominems, a central part of female logic and debating method, always rear it's ugly head when they can not intellectually refute a man's argument or position and then they suddenly acquire the telepathic and clairvoyant powers of Ms. Cleo and begin speaking to his alleged thoughts and insecurities...... Pure Comedy!

You are dizzier than a child being swung around by it's arm and then placed on the ground. First economics is important and then it's not. What belief you espouse varies from post to post and from argument to argument. In your mind, a man who is a billionaire and provides an amazing, extravagant lifestyle to a woman who has never earned more than $35,000 in her life should not think of contributions to her life as anything special and should walk around in a romantic stupor with equality as a goal, instead of happiness.

But hey, I'm the idiot who keeps engaging and entertaining you and your irrational abortions you call debating. I was warned of course and advised not to go there without wearing adequate mental contraceptives or I would risk exposure to your ignorance, but Noooo, I would listen! So, how about we simply go to our respective ideological corners and pledge to in the future, only fight those in our intellectual weight class because having to lose so much weight to meet yours is making me dizzy.......WITH LAUGHTER!
London

Powell, OH

#1301 Mar 20, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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LOL! Ad hominems, a central part of female logic and debating method, always rear it's ugly head when they can not intellectually refute a man's argument or position and then they suddenly acquire the telepathic and clairvoyant powers of Ms. Cleo and begin speaking to his alleged thoughts and insecurities...... Pure Comedy!
You are dizzier than a child being swung around by it's arm and then placed on the ground. First economics is important and then it's not. What belief you espouse varies from post to post and from argument to argument. In your mind, a man who is a billionaire and provides an amazing, extravagant lifestyle to a woman who has never earned more than $35,000 in her life should not think of contributions to her life as anything special and should walk around in a romantic stupor with equality as a goal, instead of happiness.
But hey, I'm the idiot who keeps engaging and entertaining you and your irrational abortions you call debating. I was warned of course and advised not to go there without wearing adequate mental contraceptives or I would risk exposure to your ignorance, but Noooo, I would listen! So, how about we simply go to our respective ideological corners and pledge to in the future, only fight those in our intellectual weight class because having to lose so much weight to meet yours is making me dizzy.......WITH LAUGHTER!
Speaking of ad hominems, have you read your posts? All you do is attack and make misogynistic remarks (all the while sounding like a female yourself with your emotional drivel). Do you know how odd that is?

I've said to you more than once. I truly don't care what you consider normal. All I know is the divorce rate is ridiculous and simply embarrassing concerning blacks. Money is the number one reason for divorce BECAUSE males like you (who generally don't have two nickels to rub together) actually believe your wife is somehow beholden to you because of money. And keep in mind, the average bm doesn't even have a steady income source! So, you see how ridiculous you are?!?!?

You are embarrassingly ridiculous. If I were your wife I'd give you hell everyday and just when you couldn't take it anymore, I'd divorce your sorry butt and still get a good chunk of your pennies.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1302 Mar 20, 2013
London wrote:
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Speaking of ad hominems, have you read your posts? All you do is attack and make misogynistic remarks (all the while sounding like a female yourself with your emotional drivel). Do you know how odd that is?
I've said to you more than once. I truly don't care what you consider normal. All I know is the divorce rate is ridiculous and simply embarrassing concerning blacks. Money is the number one reason for divorce BECAUSE males like you (who generally don't have two nickels to rub together) actually believe your wife is somehow beholden to you because of money. And keep in mind, the average bm doesn't even have a steady income source! So, you see how ridiculous you are?!?!?
You are embarrassingly ridiculous. If I were your wife I'd give you hell everyday and just when you couldn't take it anymore, I'd divorce your sorry butt and still get a good chunk of your pennies.
Let's see....tell him he sounds like a girl, tell him he doesn't have two nickels to rub together, but if by chance she was married to me ( Holy mother of Gawd...NO!) she would take half of my pennies that I allegedly don't have in the first place.....Mmhhh....yeah, sounds about right...authenic Dream illogic!

And I don't mind the insults, but you cross the line with that "if were married" shyt (oh the humanity)! If that hypothetical virus of such an image infects my mental software causing me to jumo off of the roof, it'll be on your hands. Sometimes you just go too far!
Cold as ice

Perth, Australia

#1303 Mar 20, 2013
My man gives me a good chunk of his wage and i aleays make sure bills are paid, food on table etc etc. i also make my own wage. I feel bad if i spend the money he gives me on myself lol. He doesnt care, but i do. Its good to be financially independant but also good to know you can help out yhe one you love if he or she needs it. There has been times where i have helped him. I give him alot of nurture and look after him and he does me. I have done it alone too with a child and that is hard. It is very difficult to try and balance work and time being a good mum. He was doing it rough when we met too. We came together and now we work to better our life and our kids lives. Plus we love each other. I would feel weird living completely off some one and vice versa. Its gotta be two sided. I dont think anyone can truely be fullfilled without both. Nurture and protection.
The Color Blurple nurple

Bronx, NY

#1304 Mar 20, 2013
Kelly Rowland has white blood.you can see it in her face.if she lightened her skin she might look alittle bit more like a white woman
Jannette

Jamaica, NY

#1305 Mar 21, 2013
Cold as ice wrote:
<quoted text> if someone is wanting some reassurance because they dont feel so good about themselves it only takes 5 minutes to make someone feel good. Its kind to make people feel good. I think you should reconsider your stand ob this and spread some positivity to someone in need.
I'd do this,but I find among some blacks,expeciallyn SOME black women,it becomes a constant requirement to do.And just like most things,it gets to be kind of boring when you constantly need to build up someone's self esteem,especially about their physical appearance. You figure as a mature adult,they should have,by now,become satisfied with their own individuality reqarding their natural physical appearance,and that you should not need to keep on reasuring someone in this regard.
Some people,who feel insecure with their looks today,and you reasure them today- that they are beautiful, then next week someone else will need to reasure them,same as you did today, because they simply don't believe that they look alright.
Jannette

Jamaica, NY

#1306 Mar 21, 2013
Donna wrote:
<quoted text> I agree that black Americans are very hung up on skin tone but we are NOT the only ones. Jamicians make a BIG deal out of skin tone and so do Puerto Ricans and especially East Indians. I have also heard Mexicans make a big deal out of the light skin Mexicans vs the brownskin ones. I know what you are saying about black people obsession with skin color it is quite annoying. As a teenager darker skin blacks would always be the first ones to bring up my skin color in a conversation or a group setting
I do agree,the hangup among blacks with the dark skinned,light skinned stuff goes on among virtually all populations of blacks,as you say Puerto Ricans, Jamiacans,East Indians,North Africans,etc. And as you say,as a light skinned person of color,some dark skinned blacks will always bring up some mention of the lightness of your skin,to hear your response.They do so only because they require you to reasure them,that though you are light skinned you're still aware that you are the same black as they are.Now why are they so obsessed?
And I don't know about you,but I get sick of blacks requiring me to do this all the time-Like with me I feel,"leave me alone already,and stop picking at me over the lighness of my skin. Everything in the world doesn't evolve around the shade of one's skin for goodness sake,though with many blacks you would think so.

London

Memphis, TN

#1307 Mar 21, 2013
Jannette wrote:
<quoted text>I'd do this,but I find among some blacks,expeciallyn SOME black women,it becomes a constant requirement to do.And just like most things,it gets to be kind of boring when you constantly need to build up someone's self esteem,especially about their physical appearance. You figure as a mature adult,they should have,by now,become satisfied with their own individuality reqarding their natural physical appearance,and that you should not need to keep on reasuring someone in this regard.
Some people,who feel insecure with their looks today,and you reasure them today- that they are beautiful, then next week someone else will need to reasure them,same as you did today, because they simply don't believe that they look alright.
I assure you most blacks don't need validation. If you see a grown adult struggling with self esteem that isn't your fight. I see women and men all the time who seem down etc. For all I know there cat could have just died. Unless I know them, I leave them be.

Not to mention lots of you guys believing blacks need you to cheer them on, aren't much yourselves.
London

Memphis, TN

#1308 Mar 21, 2013
Jannette wrote:
<quoted text>I do agree,the hangup among blacks with the dark skinned,light skinned stuff goes on among virtually all populations of blacks,as you say Puerto Ricans, Jamiacans,East Indians,North Africans,etc. And as you say,as a light skinned person of color,some dark skinned blacks will always bring up some mention of the lightness of your skin,to hear your response.They do so only because they require you to reasure them,that though you are light skinned you're still aware that you are the same black as they are.Now why are they so obsessed?
And I don't know about you,but I get sick of blacks requiring me to do this all the time-Like with me I feel,"leave me alone already,and stop picking at me over the lighness of my skin. Everything in the world doesn't evolve around the shade of one's skin for goodness sake,though with many blacks you would think so.
It's good to hear light skinned blacks are tired of dark skinned blacks nonsense in terms of skin preference. I find it embarrassing myself.
CrackaBoy

Roseland, NJ

#1309 Mar 21, 2013
Kelly Rowland is Smoking HOT!

I would eat her BlackCherry All night and by sun up she would be calling me "Daddy".
Jannette

Jamaica, NY

#1310 Mar 21, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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As usual, you entirely missed my point, which was not to debate who is black and who is not; quite frankly I don't concern myself with the racial group genetic criteria's, I only seek to manage my own blackness and not that of others; however, my point was that people in these contemporary times define race according to their ARBITRARY definitions and geopolitical and social agendas.
You are aware that their are a lot of BLACK PEOPLE who don't claim black also...right? Hence the arbitrary application. Also, one might argue with legitimacy, that since his genetic Y-DNA descended down from his father to him in patrilineal descent, he is considered to belong to the same descent group as his father, which he himself does consider himself to be.....BLACK; making all this hocus-pocus about his white mother just that.....HOCUS-POCUS!
Yes there are some authorities that consider one like Pres Obama with a black father,white mother,to be black,not just by the"one drop rule" but also by rule of one taking the color of your father,(and by the way,the "one drop rule,is no longer a U.S. official rule")
But same as there are authorities that consider one's color, based on paternal background,so that with a black father no matter the color of the mother,one is black,there are also some rules that go by the maternal background,where in such case,you are the color of your mother,hense a white mother and black father,one is white,so which is it? It's all a matter of going by rule that is in practice,or even not going by any established rule at all.
London

Memphis, TN

#1311 Mar 21, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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Let's see....tell him he sounds like a girl, tell him he doesn't have two nickels to rub together, but if by chance she was married to me ( Holy mother of Gawd...NO!) she would take half of my pennies that I allegedly don't have in the first place.....Mmhhh....yeah, sounds about right...authenic Dream illogic!
And I don't mind the insults, but you cross the line with that "if were married" shyt (oh the humanity)! If that hypothetical virus of such an image infects my mental software causing me to jumo off of the roof, it'll be on your hands. Sometimes you just go too far!
Trust me Cognito, I wouldn't marry you if you were the last man on earth. I'd welcome human extinction.

As I've said, you constantly throw attacks but yet believe personal attacks are something you are too good to endure. Sorry, but I find lots of your posts just as distasteful as you find my own.

So, are we going to continue to point this out everytime we respond to each other?

Now in regards to the resources argument. As I've said, you have the choice to have whatever relationship you choose with your spouse. However, in terms of the average working American, especially the average black american, what you are proposing doesn't work. Women, who on average, are dealing with males who don't have lots in terms of assets, are deeply offended if he attempts to use what LITTLE he has as leverage in a relationship which is rooted on love (or at least should be). The two are in direct opposition of each other. They aren't speaking the same language. This, imo, explains the divorce rate where money/resources are still the number one reason cited.

If you can't understand the problem with your thinking, well I don't know what else to tell ya.
Jannette

Jamaica, NY

#1312 Mar 21, 2013
Black Deal wrote:
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Them biracial rep other on forms now
Your spelling was careless,so that many may not get what your thought was. But I think what you meant in your response is that- on the questionaire forms for race,biracials check the box that's labeled"other" now.
Jannette

Jamaica, NY

#1313 Mar 21, 2013
Donalda wrote:
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The blonde/blue-eyed phenotype among whites that supposedly represents the pinacle of their beauty is similar too, but not entirely comparable to the colorism found within the black community. For one thing, colorism arises out of a history of white-supremacy thinking and also involves hair texture and eye color as well. As black people internalized these messages and enforced them against one another (paper bag tests) colorism continues to perpetuate itself with results that can be seen in entertainment, dating patterns and job outlook for blacks.
You are so right.But I do see the tide has turned away from this obsession with skin and hair tex,in our greater society,not completely wiped out,no,but the tide has and is turning. I see people black and white being ever more increasingly recognized for things that persons of all colors share in common first before one's color is concentrated upon. which to me opens up a fairer playing field.
Except the other day this white nut guy TV host,annoyed me by stupidly saying that a white guy could be expected to exhibit one kind of behavior, while a black guy would have dispalayed an altogether different one. Because to me this kind of stereotyping can for one thing,be inaccurate,plus falls short of recognizing people's individuality. I didn't realize how narrow minded this guy was till he made that ignorant statement.His TV contract is not being renewed for continuation,so that's reassuring.
Jannette

Jamaica, NY

#1314 Mar 21, 2013
London wrote:
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It's good to hear light skinned blacks are tired of dark skinned blacks nonsense in terms of skin preference. I find it embarrassing myself.
Exactly.
London

Memphis, TN

#1315 Mar 21, 2013
Jannette wrote:
<quoted text>Yes there are some authorities that consider one like Pres Obama with a black father,white mother,to be black,not just by the"one drop rule" but also by rule of one taking the color of your father,(and by the way,the "one drop rule,is no longer a U.S. official rule")
But same as there are authorities that consider one's color, based on paternal background,so that with a black father no matter the color of the mother,one is black,there are also some rules that go by the maternal background,where in such case,you are the color of your mother,hense a white mother and black father,one is white,so which is it? It's all a matter of going by rule that is in practice,or even not going by any established rule at all.
Your genetics don't change due to social needs. Your genetics are your genetics and if a group is concerned about genetic survival well they need to mate with someone who shares there genetic code. Therefore, the only blacks genetically are those who are mating and producing kids with other blacks.
Donna

Carol Stream, IL

#1316 Mar 21, 2013
Jannette wrote:
<quoted text>I do agree,the hangup among blacks with the dark skinned,light skinned stuff goes on among virtually all populations of blacks,as you say Puerto Ricans, Jamiacans,East Indians,North Africans,etc. And as you say,as a light skinned person of color,some dark skinned blacks will always bring up some mention of the lightness of your skin,to hear your response.They do so only because they require you to reasure them,that though you are light skinned you're still aware that you are the same black as they are.Now why are they so obsessed?
And I don't know about you,but I get sick of blacks requiring me to do this all the time-Like with me I feel,"leave me alone already,and stop picking at me over the lighness of my skin. Everything in the world doesn't evolve around the shade of one's skin for goodness sake,though with many blacks you would think so.
I don't let it bother me much anymore when I was a teenager the darker skin girls really really were jealous of light skin pretty girls and even as an adult it still goes on but I have a better understanding now. It's because dark skin girls really get discriminated on mostly by black men (dark themselves) and its real sad so they take out their issues out on us instead of who really deserves the bad treatment Bm. I get tired of constantly have to prove to them " just because I'm light skin I don't think I'm better" I try to be sympathetic to them and try to understand their pain but sometimes the jealously and attitude is just to much to deal with so I stay away. I don't time to be on trial for my skin color 24/7

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