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Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#824 Mar 16, 2013
holycrap wrote:
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So whack women don't get husbands and boyfriends? Let me get this straight most women out with men are gorgeous???
The rap industry, which is mostly an industry with black males, runs contrary to what you are saying (and I do acknowledge that some of it mentions all skin tones but this was after years of bashing--it also means this is the only industry in entertainment openly spreading a form of hatred, why is skin tone such a big focus?).
Now, as I've said, I have no problems with males and women going after what they want. But denying racism is exactly what this country does on a larger scale. If you don't believe racism exists in the aa community; well, you'd also have to say racism doesn't exist in the larger community/society.
Are you prepared to say this?
I do realize that racism does unfortunately exists.
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thing is, many folks assume that it is the mindset of only one skin tone. when it is across the whole board of skin tones.
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one way to combat it. is to teach that it is not right to hate others based on race. to hate someone based on race is based on fear. fear of the unknown. fear of someone coming in to take over something. like property.
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humans are like other species. we are territorial, possessive of things, other beings, etc... even those who do not live in 'the box' aka rut(repeating everything over and over). they still have a fear of the unknown.

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#825 Mar 16, 2013
holycrap wrote:
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I'm just as defensive about my hair and features and those with nappy hair are. You assumed I had nappy hair so I corrected you. You have yet to admit you showed yourself with this assumption. I find that interesting.
Dev, I showed you up on this issue and you won't admit it.
is what this is all about..."showing eachother up".

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#826 Mar 16, 2013
holycrap wrote:
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So whack women don't get husbands and boyfriends? Let me get this straight most women out with men are gorgeous???
The rap industry, which is mostly an industry with black males, runs contrary to what you are saying (and I do acknowledge that some of it mentions all skin tones but this was after years of bashing--it also means this is the only industry in entertainment openly spreading a form of hatred, why is skin tone such a big focus?).
Now, as I've said, I have no problems with males and women going after what they want. But denying racism is exactly what this country does on a larger scale. If you don't believe racism exists in the aa community; well, you'd also have to say racism doesn't exist in the larger community/society.
Are you prepared to say this?
^^ plum dumb...

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#827 Mar 16, 2013
holycrap wrote:
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Until blacks start teaching that self love is within, they will continue to go in the direction they are going. Also, blacks need to quit blaming black mothers for the moral decay just because many black males chose to make kids and leave them so that the mother could be blamed. I'm not going for that bull. Imo, when you have an abundance of kids being abandoned like that, it sounds like a decision has already been made in regards to our existence because women can't do everything. No one can.
And all these guys thinking they can live these girls/women in dire and then come back to negotiate terms of his return, are still beyond help. Life doesn't work like that. The world doesn't work like that.
You have a really interesting worldview.
Nicole Little

Philadelphia, PA

#828 Mar 16, 2013
Well, we live in a society where Eurocentric beauty is the norm, and if you don't have a least one or more of the traits from the Euro beauty standard (light skin, light eyes, straight hair, straight nose, blond hair) or course you are going to be look down. Men don't have the same hang-ups as women because this is a patriarchal society, and they are not judged by the way they look but by status, provision, and protection, so of course men are not going to complain.
Nicole Little

Philadelphia, PA

#829 Mar 16, 2013
dculo wrote:
some of us dark-skinned brothas get the same heat with women running down light-skinned brothas but we dont have it anywhere as bad as our female counterparts
I disagree. This may be true in the 80s and ealy 90s, but now, dark black men are the thing now. Most leading black men in Holywood are dark to brown skinned men.

“Pick ya poison, Ya Bish!”

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#830 Mar 16, 2013
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>For the women, I'm going with Baylor too, Brittney Grinder has the entire nation riding on her back. Noone is fcukin' with Baylor with her on deck. The chick dunks on b!tches with 2 hands off the vertical.
For the men, I'mma gonna go with Duke...as much as I hate to admit that.
:/
Yes, she's a beast Baylor has always been a good team though. Brittney just put them back on them, lmao .

Duke ? you think they can pull it off this year ? i'm counting on Louisville .
holycrap

Powell, OH

#831 Mar 16, 2013
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>is what this is all about..."showing eachother up".
In some ways, yes. It's a social media site. Dev assumed I was an irbw (and I'm not) because I said I didn't like nappy hair and didn't want my kids to have it. So not only did he make an offensive assumption but he also took a step further with implying I couldn't get non happy hair from a black man. I even told him on more than a few occasions I have a whole family of men and women with non nappy hair.
holycrap

Powell, OH

#832 Mar 16, 2013
Nicole Little wrote:
Well, we live in a society where Eurocentric beauty is the norm, and if you don't have a least one or more of the traits from the Euro beauty standard (light skin, light eyes, straight hair, straight nose, blond hair) or course you are going to be look down. Men don't have the same hang-ups as women because this is a patriarchal society, and they are not judged by the way they look but by status, provision, and protection, so of course men are not going to complain.
I think black males of all tones feel the same pressure to fit in. I think this accounts for the bashing of bw by these guys. If it were easy for them to fit in where they want, they wouldn't feel the need to do that.
holycrap

Powell, OH

#833 Mar 16, 2013
dev143 wrote:
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^^ plum dumb...
And you are just dumb.
holycrap

Powell, OH

#834 Mar 16, 2013
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>This is why when your on these type of sites you have to be ever so clear as to what your stance is in matters like these because a lot of things go lost in translation. That means you have to demand clarity and be just as willing to clarify.
But, you're right...she's a little "nuts".
:D
lol. Oh yeah and you are a walking, talking and breathing example of sanity?
holycrap

Powell, OH

#835 Mar 16, 2013
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>When you consider how often Black men step outside their race its safe to determine that Black men have more of a proclivity with being color struck.
Wholeheartedly disagree. The number of black males who have chosen ww is about right considering we live in a country with over 70% whites. Once you then add on the power of simply being in the majority brings, this will only add to the number. Once you then add on the history of blacks in this country--well it's a wonder blacks have lasted this long. In places where blacks were in similar shape, already the black population is virtually gone.
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
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HOWEVER...the focus shouldn't be whose on top of the color struck pile.
It's racism and if speaking about racism in the larger society; racism in smaller segments certainly should be talked about. Otherwise, don't talk about any of it.
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
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I think what's important here is to seek ways to resolve the condition through raising a generation of Black men & women who'll want to seek romance/ marriage with their own as opposed to "crossing over".
I disagree. With the high % of bw raising kids alone (and keep in mind the majority of bw have chosen not to have black kids nowadays) they should teach their kids to go with whomever makes them happy. There is no community nor culture these women should worry themselves with during the raising process. Bw in my grandmothers age already tried what you are suggesting and those women sacrificed themselves for absolutely nothing.
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#836 Mar 16, 2013
holycrap wrote:
<quoted text> I think Cogito is a parroting fool. He's knowledgeable but he's not wise. I've ran across more than a few just like him. To put it more plainly, I don't care what Cogito thinks. He thinks I'm an idiot. I think he's a buffoon.
So that's how he and I will do this thing.
<quoted text> Some truth...I feel in order to come up with new ideas and solutions to problems; one must hear the most outlandish possibilities.
I think though you meant to type I'm a BAD woman. It's okay, all is forgiven dear.
<quoted text> You have just listed the recipe for more disrespect, not less. Self love is within.
<quoted text>Most whites I meet in life are tending to their own business. They don't have time to uplift me and give me a standing ovation because they simply have sh!t to do.
First of all, it is not my subjective opinion or view that you are a certifiable IDIOT, it is an objective truth. This self evident truth is clear for all to see in your many imbecilic, preposterous post. And the fact that an idiot thinks me a buffoon ranks right up there with with a blind person critiquing an art exhibit. And I am still waiting on you to name these sources that I supposedly parrot, but of course you won't provide them because they don't exist.

It would be an insult to an "Intellectual Impostor" to assign to you this pejorative label because they, for the most part, possess some minimum critical thinking skills while your mind and intelligence is but a barren, toxic wasteland. However, all is not lost because being exposed to you, one does in fact derive certain medicinal benefits; since it is a physiological truth that laughter stimulates the flow of serotonin and dopamine.

And since I find myself in your debt for your unintended contributions to my health, I offer to you this advice as a reciprocal "QUID PRO QUO" recompense. I think that you and reality could patch up your differences, allowing you to once again enter her realm, if only you would make the conciliatory gesture of contrition for your past insults to her by promising to periodically empty out your DENIAL FOLDER. I'm sure something can be arranged!

holycrap

Powell, OH

#837 Mar 16, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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I do realize that racism does unfortunately exists.
.
thing is, many folks assume that it is the mindset of only one skin tone. when it is across the whole board of skin tones.
.
one way to combat it. is to teach that it is not right to hate others based on race. to hate someone based on race is based on fear. fear of the unknown. fear of someone coming in to take over something. like property.
.
humans are like other species. we are territorial, possessive of things, other beings, etc... even those who do not live in 'the box' aka rut(repeating everything over and over). they still have a fear of the unknown.
We shouldn't teach our kids hate. Period. Our kids, like all humans, are natural survivalists and they will learn independently what to hate (and hate is needed in this world just as much as love is).

I simply take issue with some who want to talk about racism only in context of what whites are supposedly doing to blacks but yet deny all the other forms of racism blacks openly practice amongst themselves. I say if we aren't going to expose all of it, why talk about any of it? Just like some of these guys are telling so many bw to get over it, well shouldn't they? After all that's what whites have been saying to blacks for decades now.

The truth is whites were right. You aren't control people. People have a right to their racism. Since these guys like to throw around preference so much, well their preference is no different from white racists who have a preference against blacks. It's no different.

And white racists have done better than inner group racists, because at least most of them do try to separate themselves from blacks.
holycrap

Powell, OH

#838 Mar 16, 2013
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>You have a really interesting worldview.
Why do you say this? So you feel bw should be instilling culture in the kids they are raising?

“Pick ya poison, Ya Bish!”

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#839 Mar 16, 2013
London wrote:
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All is a big word. I hardly ever use that word because there are always exceptions. I do not believe bm are mostly with bw and I don't believe they have to be. I certainly don't think it's important because most blacks are barely above survival. Most bw who birth black kids do so with little to no resources (which is why the birth rate has dropped for blacks and they are now declared an aging population).
It doesn't matter to me whether the few bm who are "successful" are with bw or not. What matters most is what's going on in the middle (the middle is where most people of any race are at). The middle for blacks imo is extremely pitiful.
I'm not going to dispute your opinion , i respect and understand what you're saying. I agree, i don't believe black men must be with black women. Nor do i care , they are allow to date whom ever,vice versa for us. Of course not ALL of them are with black women but the majority are. Now i agree our community is in shambles. Because the men who have the power to lead are sitting back complaining. Sadly men like Malcolm X and Martin Luther are a thing of the past. "Most bw who birth black kids do so with little to no resources " . These women need to pick BETTER men, who can provide and educated. Most of the men Black women are getting pregnant by simply aren't worth a damn. In general we have this habit of wanting to change a man or "save him". The decision we make , is what our black children will have to deal with. It's a cycle that we must break , the community at this point can't be help.

I thought the birth rate for black kids increase , if i'm not mistaken.

"It doesn't matter to me whether the few bm who are "successful" are with bw or not. What matters most is what's going on in the middle (the middle is where most people of any race are at). The middle for blacks imo is extremely pitiful." I agree..... how are we who have the power to better the community helping ?
Nicole Little

Philadelphia, PA

#840 Mar 16, 2013
Whoever denies colorism is stupid as hell. Its not just dark skinned black men that dissed dark skinned black women. It's black mn PERIOD, light, brown, and dark. They all are racism towards dark skinned women. And nowadays, being a light skinned black woman is not good enough. The reason why black men choose light skinned black women is because they don't have access to non-black women, so they will get with black women who look closest to a non-black woman, and when a black man have more access to non-black women, he will dump light skinned black women to be with a white, LAtina, and an Asian. The movie, Jungle Fever is proof to what I'm talking about. Wesley Snipes was married to a light skinned biracial woman, but when he met a white woman at her job, he dumped his biracial wife to be with her, so these black men really want non-black women. They hate black women. They really don't want black women as wives and girlfriends. They only choose light skinned black women as a STEP UP to non-black women. Once they get a non-black woman, he will dump the light black woman as well, if you don't believe me, look at Michael Jordan. His wife is light skinned, and when he became famous and have access to non-black women, he divorce his wife for a young white Cuban. So light, brown, and dark black women are all in the same boat when it comes to this.
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#841 Mar 16, 2013
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>When you consider how often Black men step outside their race its safe to determine that Black men have more of a proclivity with being color struck. HOWEVER...the focus shouldn't be whose on top of the color struck pile. I think what's important here is to seek ways to resolve the condition through raising a generation of Black men & women who'll want to seek romance/ marriage with their own as opposed to "crossing over".
Try as they may (or complain as they may), the love and masculine attention of black men can not be emotionally legislated into equal, divisible portions based on hues of color no more than men can legislatively compel women to accept men of various unattractive economic strata's.

I mean, I can intellectually understand their issues but reality simply doesn't correct itself based upon their cries of romantic injustices and inequalities. Hue of color is but a derivative of one's entire phenotypical package and thus, all classifications are in fact based on one's SUBJECTIVE aesthetic template.

And once again, why do we label a preference for a lighter hue...color struck, but not a preference for a darker hue? Are the sisters with a preference for a darker hued brother not discriminating against our lighter hued brothers, and how is this any different in reverse? But in the end, though this falls on deaf ears, character is in fact a huge variable in the equation, so you are correct in that the emphasis should be on working with what you have and cultivating it to achieve your desired ends, be it a relationship or marriage and family.

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#842 Mar 16, 2013
The King wrote:
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This is something Black women do to their daughters. Nobody else has an issue with it. Just for some odd reason black mothers can't stop telling their daughters that dark black skin is ugly.
Men have no issue with it what soever.


That's a D*mn lie! You cannot pin the blame soley on black mothers.#1 Alot of these dark skinned black mothers either had a dislike for their own skin color (which would be why they cant teach their own daughters to love themselves) or they dont detect that their kid has an issue.

#2 Society (whites) have brainwashed Americans into believeing in a European standard of beauty.

#3 I blame these black male rappers, entertainers, athletes etc (not all of them but most) for keeping this belief alive. Did you not read the article of Lil wayne professing his hatred for dark skinned women (look it up). And who do you often see in music videos, and photo shoots? Or the wives and girlfriends of most black entertainers?
_--BlackAngel--_

Jacksonville, FL

#843 Mar 16, 2013
Cayla N wrote:
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That's a D*mn lie! You cannot pin the blame soley on black mothers.#1 Alot of these dark skinned black mothers either had a dislike for their own skin color (which would be why they cant teach their own daughters to love themselves) or they dont detect that their kid has an issue.
#2 Society (whites) have brainwashed Americans into believeing in a European standard of beauty.
#3 I blame these black male rappers, entertainers, athletes etc (not all of them but most) for keeping this belief alive. Did you not read the article of Lil wayne professing his hatred for dark skinned women (look it up). And who do you often see in music videos, and photo shoots? Or the wives and girlfriends of most black entertainers?
Hi, Cayla N.

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