The Phoenicians (black or white)?

The Phoenicians (black or white)?

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“Not African, we're Orginal!”

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#1 Oct 20, 2008
Yeah...the Phoenicians. A trading people who had many ships, colonies whom they say even crossed the Atlantic ocean. Were they black or white? Or better yet...was there such a group or was it an agglomeration of several groups?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia

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“Not African, we're Orginal!”

Since: Sep 08

The World

#3 Oct 20, 2008
Phoenicians are said to have given the Greeks the alphabet.
M Benzema

Redmond, WA

#4 Oct 20, 2008
Phoenecians were of caucasian stock and spoke a Semetic tongue;they were light tan to very swarthy and had nothing to do with west African people(blacks).The earliest accounts of an alphabet were actually used 3500 years ago by enslaved Israelites at torquoise mines in Serabit El Khadim,Egypt.The writing,a non-hieroglyphic type,was a plea to El(ancient Israelite name for God)for salvation from Egyptian slavery..."El save me."Notice I said,"El" and not "Yahwey."

Abraham is derived from Brahma,but that's unrelated to this discussion.LOL

M. Benzema

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#5 Oct 20, 2008
Phoenicians were an Indo-European speaking people. I don't know what they looked like, nobody knows for sure. You don't need to have a particular look to speak a language. Look at the wide variety of people in today's world who speak an Indo-European language as their first language.
But Carthage was a Phoenician colony on the North African coast.

“Not African, we're Orginal!”

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#6 Oct 20, 2008
M Benzema wrote:
Phoenecians were of caucasian stock and spoke a Semetic tongue;they were light tan to very swarthy and had nothing to do with west African people(blacks).
We'd first have to throw that 'Caucasian' term to the trashcan because it's not based on reality. The term 'very swarthy' is in parallel with the 'Dravidian connection with Ancient Egypt'. There is much debate as to where the 'Bantu' West Africans come from, so I can't agree nor disagree with you.
M Benzema wrote:
The earliest accounts of an alphabet were actually used 3500 years ago by enslaved Israelites at torquoise mines in Serabit El Khadim,Egypt.The writing,a non-hieroglyphic type,was a plea to El(ancient Israelite name for God)for salvation from Egyptian slavery..."El save me."Notice I said,"El" and not "Yahwey."
Interesting, could you point me to the source of this info?
M Benzema wrote:
Abraham is derived from Brahma,but that's unrelated to this discussion.LOL
M. Benzema
LOL ShAnti
M Benzema

Redmond, WA

#7 Oct 20, 2008

“Not African, we're Orginal!”

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#8 Oct 20, 2008
Babu

Beirut, Lebanon

#9 Dec 2, 2008
There was a recent DNA test that compared present day Phoenicia(Lebanon) to DNA taken from 5000 yrs old corpses and bones. It turned out that 28% of the Lebanese have Phoenician DNA in them.Since 99.99% of the Lebanese are white or light skinned. the conclusion would be that Phoenican had the same characteristic of skin.

Raptor X

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#10 Dec 2, 2008
I have done a lot of study of the phoenicians arguing with people trying to tell me that the moors were black. The symbol of the phoenix bird used by the egyptians, came from the phoenicians. It is the phoenicians that carry the earliest history of the moors, not the blacks. They had the best ships, and the largest trade market of their time, from asia to europe. What they looked like has not yet been determined except that they were a light brown people, and are considered to be of the arab bloodline at the beginning. They bought many white slaves and bred with them, and light skin dominated over time to change the look of the people. Much of the Roman technology was actually imported technology for the phoenicians. They were far ahead of their time.
AnimeRanger

Fairfax, VA

#11 Jan 20, 2009
If you were really following the history we all know one of many things. When a civilization takes over a place they integrate. So there is no doubt in my mind lebanese would have the blood flow. But so do some african colonies they had same blood are Phoenicians so to say Lebanese are the Phoenicians is a flawed argument. Thats like saying Im white cause the British raped my culture. LOL. But seriously. HIstory text from greeks and egyptians say they came from the west past the pillars of hercules. The oldest town of there so far is found by the Gibraltar. I am not sure what they are but it seem they weren't black nor white. Plus it seems they threats the way of life for not only greek but egyptians. What if they were chinese. LOL. But really no one knows yet.

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Olive Branch, MS

#12 May 7, 2009
This answer was so easy and none of you coulg figure it out

Here we go

Noah had 4 sons Japeth, Ham, Shem

Japeth is the father owhite?caucaisions
Ham the father of blacks/africans
Shem the father of what we call semetic people

Ham had 4 sons

1.Put (lybia)

2.Mizraim(egypt) So that kills the were the egyptions black arguement

3. Cush (Sudan, Ethiopia)

4. Caanan ( this was the son that was cursed) from this lineage is who the Phoenecians descend from.

So you tell me what they were. White always try topaint them as being something different because they were such a big part of there history and the contributions they made to them

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#13 May 7, 2009
baad indyan wrote:
Phoenicians were an Indo-European speaking people. I don't know what they looked like, nobody knows for sure. You don't need to have a particular look to speak a language. Look at the wide variety of people in today's world who speak an Indo-European language as their first language.
But Carthage was a Phoenician colony on the North African coast.
They were not Indo-european but Semitic.

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#14 May 7, 2009
Garrig wrote:
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They were not Indo-european but Semitic.
There were not semetic either, they were descedents of caanan

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#15 May 7, 2009
Nomadic wrote:
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There were not semetic either, they were descedents of caanan
They spoke a language similar to Hebrew and Arabic and are Middle Eastern looking, ok?
melia

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#16 May 7, 2009
baad indyan wrote:
Phoenicians were an Indo-European speaking people. I don't know what they looked like, nobody knows for sure. You don't need to have a particular look to speak a language. Look at the wide variety of people in today's world who speak an Indo-European language as their first language.
But Carthage was a Phoenician colony on the North African coast.
no, they arenot indoeuropean, do you even know what is indoeuropean means.

phoencian are semitic.
melia

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#17 May 7, 2009
the language of arabic and hebrow is deirved from armenian, so called languge of christ, so armenian languge is semitic

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#18 May 7, 2009
Garrig wrote:
<quoted text>
They spoke a language similar to Hebrew and Arabic and are Middle Eastern looking, ok?
A chinese person raised in germany will speak german. That whole language thing doesnt matter, people migrated traveled and came acroos other people and picked up new languages, and the people you see today may lok semetic do to mixing.

But who did they descend from? Caanan
And who was caanans father? Ham

Its very easy

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#19 May 7, 2009
Nomadic wrote:
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A chinese person raised in germany will speak german. That whole language thing doesnt matter, people migrated traveled and came acroos other people and picked up new languages, and the people you see today may lok semetic do to mixing.
But who did they descend from? Caanan
And who was caanans father? Ham
Its very easy
Ok let me solve the mystery for you. Here is a mural found in a tomb in ancient Egypt it depicts Chananites migrating into Egypt. I want you to take a GOOD LOOK at how the Egyptians protrayed them. And perhaps you will realize they look the same Today as they did back then.

http://www.bible-archaeology.info/Beni-hasan1...

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#20 May 7, 2009
melia wrote:
the language of arabic and hebrow is deirved from armenian, so called languge of christ, so armenian languge is semitic
No it ain't.

“Not African, we're Orginal!”

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#21 May 7, 2009
Nomadic wrote:
This answer was so easy and none of you coulg figure it out
Here we go
Noah had 4 sons Japeth, Ham, Shem
Japeth is the father owhite?caucaisions
Ham the father of blacks/africans
Shem the father of what we call semetic people
Ham had 4 sons
1.Put (lybia)
2.Mizraim(egypt) So that kills the were the egyptions black arguement
3. Cush (Sudan, Ethiopia)
4. Caanan ( this was the son that was cursed) from this lineage is who the Phoenecians descend from.
So you tell me what they were. White always try topaint them as being something different because they were such a big part of there history and the contributions they made to them
Have you noticed the genetic researches of North and East Africa? They're mixed with the 'Eurasian'.

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