Most White Americans are Descendants ...

Most White Americans are Descendants of European Slaves!!!!

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Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#1 Sep 24, 2010
Racist Whites here on Topix like to talk about Black slavery and how Blacks enslaved Blacks, but you rarely hear them talk about slavery in their own history. The reason for this is simply because history is full of lies and deceptions. While it is true that most African Americans are descendants of slaves......so are most White Americans, and I will prove it...

Slavery in Europe is not called slavery by Whites........they call it Feudalism. But when one studies Feudalism in detail, it is easy to see that the system was essentially a form of slavery.This system lasted from the year 1,000 to about 1300, so this means slavery lasted in Europe for about 300 years, and in other parts of Europe, like Eastern Europe and Russia, slavery lasted even longer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom

Facts About White Slavery That Whites Don't Want to Admit:

1. Whites enslaved Whites in Europe for hundreds of years under a system called Feudalism. Under this system, most Whites were serfs.

2. There is no difference between a serf and a slave.

3. Mongolians Conquered Russia and Eastern Europe and enslaved them for 300 years.

4. It was religious persecution and slavery in Europe that caused Whites to leave their homeland and come to the United States, were ironically, they enslaved and persecuted the Native Americans and enslaved Africans.

5. Only a handful of Nobles ruled Europe during the Middle Ages. Most Whites were serfs. This means most White Americans are descendant from European serfs and only a handful are descendant from Aristocrats.
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#2 Sep 24, 2010
I challenge any White person here on Topix to refute the paragraph above. Many Whites here on Topix try to proclaim themselves as being superior to Blacks when the truth is that they are probably descendants of Serfs.

The White Serfs of Europe toiled for centuries just as African American slaves toiled for centuries in the U.S. and Caribbean. What is the difference between the two groups? Nothing. Whites enslaved Whites just like Blacks enslaved Blacks.

More Facts About White Slavery:

1. In England, the end of serfdom began with Tyler’s Rebellion and was fully ended when Elizabeth I freed the last remaining serfs in 1574.

2. There were native-born Scottish serfs until 1799, when coal miners previously kept in serfdom gained emancipation.

3. In Eastern Europe the institution persisted until the mid-19th century. It persisted in Austria-Hungary till 1848 and was abolished in Russia in 1861.
Here ya go

United States

#3 Sep 24, 2010
No shitt sherlock. The difference is whites evolved.
Dweezil

United States

#4 Sep 24, 2010
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
Racist Whites here on Topix like to talk about Black slavery and how Blacks enslaved Blacks, but you rarely hear them talk about slavery in their own history. The reason for this is simply because history is full of lies and deceptions. While it is true that most African Americans are descendants of slaves......so are most White Americans, and I will prove it...
Slavery in Europe is not called slavery by Whites........they call it Feudalism. But when one studies Feudalism in detail, it is easy to see that the system was essentially a form of slavery.This system lasted from the year 1,000 to about 1300, so this means slavery lasted in Europe for about 300 years, and in other parts of Europe, like Eastern Europe and Russia, slavery lasted even longer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
Facts About White Slavery That Whites Don't Want to Admit:
1. Whites enslaved Whites in Europe for hundreds of years under a system called Feudalism. Under this system, most Whites were serfs.
2. There is no difference between a serf and a slave.
3. Mongolians Conquered Russia and Eastern Europe and enslaved them for 300 years.
4. It was religious persecution and slavery in Europe that caused Whites to leave their homeland and come to the United States, were ironically, they enslaved and persecuted the Native Americans and enslaved Africans.
5. Only a handful of Nobles ruled Europe during the Middle Ages. Most Whites were serfs. This means most White Americans are descendant from European serfs and only a handful are descendant from Aristocrats.
When are you going to learn? You can't understand how Whites think. They are not on your level. They don't care about shizz like that. Do you see any White person worried about it?? Whites care about where they are now and how they will get ahead..not whining about the past. As usual all your negroisms are a big joke!
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#6 Sep 24, 2010
Dude, trying to compare European feudalism and serfdom to the slave trade in the Americas is like comparing apples to oranges. Also the kind of slavery that was taking place in Americas with African slaves you never saw in Europe. I'm not saying it didn't take place, given slavery of some kind existed since human kind in many civilizations but not in the scales that it took place during the Trans Atlantic slave trade. And no serf and slave didn't actually mean the same thing from Late Antiquity and on:

In Late Antiquity and most of the Middle Ages, what we now call serfs were usually designated in Latin as coloni (sing. colonus). As slavery gradually disappeared and the legal status of these servi became nearly identical to that of coloni, the term changed meaning into our modern concept of "serf". The term "serfdom" was coined in 1850.
UruEuWauWau

Switzerland

#7 Sep 24, 2010
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
Racist Whites here on Topix like to talk about Black slavery and how Blacks enslaved Blacks, but you rarely hear them talk about slavery in their own history. The reason for this is simply because history is full of lies and deceptions. While it is true that most African Americans are descendants of slaves......so are most White Americans, and I will prove it...
Slavery in Europe is not called slavery by Whites........they call it Feudalism. But when one studies Feudalism in detail, it is easy to see that the system was essentially a form of slavery.This system lasted from the year 1,000 to about 1300, so this means slavery lasted in Europe for about 300 years, and in other parts of Europe, like Eastern Europe and Russia, slavery lasted even longer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
Facts About White Slavery That Whites Don't Want to Admit:
1. Whites enslaved Whites in Europe for hundreds of years under a system called Feudalism. Under this system, most Whites were serfs.
2. There is no difference between a serf and a slave.
3. Mongolians Conquered Russia and Eastern Europe and enslaved them for 300 years.
4. It was religious persecution and slavery in Europe that caused Whites to leave their homeland and come to the United States, were ironically, they enslaved and persecuted the Native Americans and enslaved Africans.
5. Only a handful of Nobles ruled Europe during the Middle Ages. Most Whites were serfs. This means most White Americans are descendant from European serfs and only a handful are descendant from Aristocrats.
Serfdom not equal feudalism not equal slavery -- known even w/o googling & wikipiki. Is this so hard to understand?! Mongols didn't enslave anyone for 300 years, stop spouting rubbish even around sites like topix, kiddo. Russia was always the homeland to the aboriginal Eurasians & Asians. Well, Mongols even had their member as the Sultan of Egypt. As you can see, Mongols were even playing around Africa, kiddo. Now go back to school or barbie doll you love so much.
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#8 Sep 24, 2010
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Mongols didn't enslave anyone for 300 years
Wrong Dumb Ass!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_...

The Mongolians RULED RUSSIA, they didn't just invade, they RULED for hundreds of years and collected tribute, shows how much you know.
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#9 Sep 24, 2010
Jeff wrote:
Dude, trying to compare European feudalism and serfdom to the slave trade in the Americas is like comparing apples to oranges. Also the kind of slavery that was taking place in Americas with African slaves you never saw in Europe. I'm not saying it didn't take place, given slavery of some kind existed since human kind in many civilizations but not in the scales that it took place during the Trans Atlantic slave trade. And no serf and slave didn't actually mean the same thing from Late Antiquity and on:
In Late Antiquity and most of the Middle Ages, what we now call serfs were usually designated in Latin as coloni (sing. colonus). As slavery gradually disappeared and the legal status of these servi became nearly identical to that of coloni, the term changed meaning into our modern concept of "serf". The term "serfdom" was coined in 1850.
Jeff, you and I both know damn well that a slave and serf is basically the same thing.......

Dictionary.com definition of Slave:

"a person who is the property of and wholly subject to another; a bond servant."

Dictionary.com definition of Serf:

"An unfree person, esp one bound to the land. If his lord sold the land, the serf was passed on to the new landlord."

Slaves and Serfs are unanimous, of course there are differences between Feudalism and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, but at the end of the day, when it is all said and done, Whites enslaved other Whites for hundreds of years.
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#10 Sep 24, 2010
Dweezil wrote:
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Whites care about where they are now and how they will get ahead..not whining about the past.
Whites lie and try to deny the history, they call their own slavery Feudalism when it was basically White on White slavery, that is the point of this thread but that flew totally over your head.
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#11 Sep 24, 2010
Here ya go wrote:
No shitt sherlock. The difference is whites evolved.
You're kidding, Whites evolved? Please tell me, what species have they evolved into? When did they stop being Homo Sapiens?
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#12 Sep 24, 2010
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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As you can see, Mongols were even playing around Africa, kiddo. Now go back to school or barbie doll you love so much.
You are..........a f*cking moron, the Mongols NEVER MADE IT ANYWHERE NEAR AFRICA!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquests
Dweezil

United States

#13 Sep 24, 2010
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
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Whites lie and try to deny the history, they call their own slavery Feudalism when it was basically White on White slavery, that is the point of this thread but that flew totally over your head.
Oh no we were slaves! Oh my Gawd! I think I'll just spend the rest of my life sitting down sulking. Do you think it's too late to ask for reparations?

“No Substitute For The Truth”

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Since: Jan 10

United States

#14 Sep 24, 2010
When the Europeans came over here to America, they also forced other whites into servants, treating their servants similar as the black slaves.

Many immigrants arrived in Colonial America as indentured servants, which involved their new master paying the ship's captain for their transatlantic voyage. Most were young men and women from Britain and Germany, under the age of 21, whose service was negotiated by their parents.

Legal arrangements of this type have been widespread throughout world history in different forms. Usually the status of indentured servant was entered into voluntarily by the servant.[1][2]
Indenture contract signed with an X by Henry Meyer in 1738
Indenture of apprenticeship binding Evan Morgan, a child aged 6 years and 11 months, for a period of 14 years, 1 month. dated Feb. 1,1823, Sussex Co., Delaware.

Workers included Europeans, including Irish,[3] Scottish,[4] English, and Germans,[5] immigrated to Colonial America in substantial numbers as indentured servants,[6] particularly to the British Thirteen Colonies.[7] In the 17th century, nearly two-thirds of English settlers came as indentured servants, although indentured servitude was not a guaranteed route to economic autonomy. Given the high death rate, many servants did not live to the end of their terms.[8] In the 18th and early 19th century, numerous Europeans traveled to the colonies as redemptioners, a form of indenture.[9]

It has been estimated that the redemptioners comprised almost 80% of the total British and continental emigration to America prior to the Revolution.[10].

“No Substitute For The Truth”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

United States

#15 Sep 24, 2010
Like slaves, servants could be bought and sold, could not marry without the permission of their owner, were subject to physical punishment, and saw their obligation to labor enforced by the courts. To ensure uninterrupted work by the female servants, the law lengthened the term of their indenture if they became pregnant. But unlike slaves, servants could look forward to a release from bondage. If they survived their period of labor, servants would receive a payment known as "freedom dues" and become free members of society.[14]

On the other hand, this ideal was not always a reality for indentured servants. Both male and female laborers could be subject to violence, occasionally even resulting in death. The large number of servants who ran away or committed suicide suggests that the conditions of life during the period of bondage may not have been so different for the servant and the slave.[15] Female indentured servants in particular might be raped and/or sexually abused by their masters. Cases of successful prosecution for these crimes were very uncommon, as indentured servants were unlikely to have access to a magistrate, and social pressure to avoid such brutality could vary by geography and cultural norm. The situation was particularly difficult for indentured women, because in both low social class and sex, they were believed to be particularly prone to vice, making legal redress unusual.[citation needed]

Indentured servants differed from slavery. There was a continuum between the designations "free" and "unfree" in the colonial period. In this sense, the development of racial thinking to separate and privilege the mainly white laborers from black slaves solidified the institution of slavery even as it opened, at least in name, opportunities for lower-class whites. Ultimately, slavery persisted until 1865 in the South, but indentured servitude continued.

Owners did not always honor contractual obligations. Sometimes when contract(s) ended, a servant could would be forced to work for additional time and would not receive the promised monetary or land grant. In other cases, owners extended the term of the contract, citing unexpected expenses.
UruEuWauWau

Switzerland

#16 Sep 24, 2010
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
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You are..........a f*cking moron, the Mongols NEVER MADE IT ANYWHERE NEAR AFRICA!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquests
Here we go again. Little byatch, start learning for real & don't just look for the light @ the end of the azzhole. Learn about Mongol Sultan of Egypt by the name Al-Adil Kitbugha. BTW, you could also refresh the chapter of Mamluks scr*wing & enslaving African women all the way to Sudan while you're @ it. Well, let's say Mongols didn't scr*w Africans, but Turks surely did for so many centuries. Keep buzzing around topix, kiddo.
UruEuWauWau

Switzerland

#17 Sep 24, 2010
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
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Wrong Dumb Ass!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_...
The Mongolians RULED RUSSIA, they didn't just invade, they RULED for hundreds of years and collected tribute, shows how much you know.
Sure, even India (mostly by Mongol descendants in Persia), China, Persia, ME, SE.Asia, but not E.Europe & SE.Europe (short invasions & looting aside). The problem here is, you're too little & too dumb to know what's E.Europe, what's SE.Europe, where it starts, where it ends, etc. Go play w/ barbie, kiddo.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#18 Sep 24, 2010
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
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You are..........a f*cking moron, the Mongols NEVER MADE IT ANYWHERE NEAR AFRICA!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquests
Eh, yes they did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_empire

Level 1

Since: Oct 09

Athos

#19 Sep 24, 2010
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
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Whites lie and try to deny the history, they call their own slavery Feudalism when it was basically White on White slavery, that is the point of this thread but that flew totally over your head.
First you say racists, now you say whites, which is probably what you meant all along.

A lot of people descended from slaves. That's the way it is. Who would care about that? I've never heard anyone dispute it, quite the opposite. Nothing to be ashamed of at all.
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#20 Sep 24, 2010
Jeff wrote:
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Eh, yes they did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_empire
Jeff, are you completely f*cking stupid? That is the OTTOMAN EMPIRE, not the MONGOL EMPIRE. The two empirea are NOT THE SAME.
Kashta_Bureh

Norwalk, CA

#21 Sep 24, 2010
UruEuWauWau wrote:
<quoted text>
Here we go again. Little byatch, start learning for real & don't just look for the light @ the end of the azzhole. Learn about Mongol Sultan of Egypt by the name Al-Adil Kitbugha.
The Mongol Empire never included Egypt dumb ass, the Mongol Empire barely covered Saudi Arabia. Al-Adil Kitbugha WAS NOT A MONGOLIAN, he was Middle Eastern, he was captured by the Mongolians dumb ass and made a part of their army, and he rose through the ranks and later became leader of Egypt.

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