Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future"

Sep 24, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Booker Rising

The From Catholic Online : "Adding to the argument that abortion threatens one sector of American society over others, Catherine Davis, president of The Restoration Project, pointed out to the great racial disparity of women currently getting abortions." The article continues: "Davis said that according to the Centers for Disease Control, ... (more)

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THE RELIC

El Monte, CA

#463 Feb 11, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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And your point is...WHAT, exactly?@@
Women ARE strong, intelligent, and independent, especially when they are making their OWN choices regarding sex and reproduction. That applies to ALL women, not just those in a particular group. Feminism was all about giving all women OPTIONS, including the option NOT to be a mother unless a woman WANTED to be one.
I will slap this on ya every time ya post

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The sadness of the women's movement is that they don't allow the necessity of love. See, I don't personally trust any revolution where love is not allowed.

Maya Angelou

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/ma ..._______

Michelle Obama

The woman who employed my educated mother to clean her house never quite saw her as a sister in the struggle for equality.

Well, itís no secret that Iím not a fan of feminism. I donít believe that it had anything to do with Black womenís lives. I believe we already had our own brand of feminism, because Black women have always worked. Our ancestors Ė mothers, aunts, grandmothers, elders in the church- have been balancing work, relationships and marriage, well, since forever. We failed to uphold the lessons that they tried to teach us, throwing it away for something that NEVER had our families in mind. I canít be a Black feminist if Iím being separate from the Black men in my life. Just doesnít work for me. Thatís part of the reason why there was no real Ďconflictí for me when it came to Obama vs. Clinton. Am I Black or Woman? Iím both, but Iíve been in this country long enough to know:

1. Being Black is the true designation of my life

2. Being separated from the men in the community has not done us any good

3.ĎSisterhoodí is a one way street; Iím a Ď Sisterí, when Mainstream Feminism wants something from me. When theyíre done, then Iím kicked to the curb. I understood long ago that Miss Anne wasnít studdiní about my Black behind, and I donít think Iím alone in that realization.

said before that I wasnít going to hold my breath waiting for Mainstream Feminists to defend Michelle Obama. This was a job that those of us who cared would have to take on our shoulders.

Their silence has been quite instructiveÖ.donít you think

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/wh ...
CANNED WHIP AZZ

United States

#464 Feb 11, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
And your point is...WHAT, exactly?@@
Women ARE strong, intelligent, and independent, especially when they are making their OWN choices regarding sex and reproduction. That applies to ALL women, not just those in a particular group. Feminism was all about giving all women OPTIONS, including the option NOT to be a mother unless a woman WANTED to be one.
WRONG!

Here is ya can of whip azz
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The sadness of the women's movement is that they don't allow the necessity of love. See, I don't personally trust any revolution where love is not allowed.

Maya Angelou

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/ma ..._______

Michelle Obama

The woman who employed my educated mother to clean her house never quite saw her as a sister in the struggle for equality.

Well, itís no secret that Iím not a fan of feminism. I donít believe that it had anything to do with Black womenís lives. I believe we already had our own brand of feminism, because Black women have always worked. Our ancestors Ė mothers, aunts, grandmothers, elders in the church- have been balancing work, relationships and marriage, well, since forever. We failed to uphold the lessons that they tried to teach us, throwing it away for something that NEVER had our families in mind. I canít be a Black feminist if Iím being separate from the Black men in my life. Just doesnít work for me. Thatís part of the reason why there was no real Ďconflictí for me when it came to Obama vs. Clinton. Am I Black or Woman? Iím both, but Iíve been in this country long enough to know:

1. Being Black is the true designation of my life

2. Being separated from the men in the community has not done us any good

3.ĎSisterhoodí is a one way street; Iím a Ď Sisterí, when Mainstream Feminism wants something from me. When theyíre done, then Iím kicked to the curb. I understood long ago that Miss Anne wasnít studdiní about my Black behind, and I donít think Iím alone in that realization.

said before that I wasnít going to hold my breath waiting for Mainstream Feminists to defend Michelle Obama. This was a job that those of us who cared would have to take on our shoulders.

Their silence has been quite instructiveÖ.donít you think

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/wh ...
Zz

“Reality is better than truth.”

Level 1

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#465 Feb 11, 2013
There is an entire black feminist movement, moron.
THE RELIC wrote:
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Feminist movement was for and about ww. It was a ww that coined the phrase "I am strong, intelligent and independent".
Why are you parroting ww?
Ya sho nuff one bull d-ke

“Reality is better than truth.”

Level 1

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#466 Feb 11, 2013
Who says feminists don't love? Angelou may be a great poet, but she clearly doesn't understand what feminism is.

Defend michelle obama against what? She's a strong, capable woman marrid to the most powerul man in america; the only defense she needs is already provided by the secret service--she is quite capable of handling the rest.
THE RELIC wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG!
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The sadness of the women's movement is that they don't allow the necessity of love. See, I don't personally trust any revolution where love is not allowed.
Maya Angelou
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/ma ..._______
Michelle Obama
The woman who employed my educated mother to clean her house never quite saw her as a sister in the struggle for equality.
Well, itís no secret that Iím not a fan of feminism. I donít believe that it had anything to do with Black womenís lives. I believe we already had our own brand of feminism, because Black women have always worked. Our ancestors Ė mothers, aunts, grandmothers, elders in the church- have been balancing work, relationships and marriage, well, since forever. We failed to uphold the lessons that they tried to teach us, throwing it away for something that NEVER had our families in mind. I canít be a Black feminist if Iím being separate from the Black men in my life. Just doesnít work for me. Thatís part of the reason why there was no real Ďconflictí for me when it came to Obama vs. Clinton. Am I Black or Woman? Iím both, but Iíve been in this country long enough to know:
1. Being Black is the true designation of my life
2. Being separated from the men in the community has not done us any good
3.ĎSisterhoodí is a one way street; Iím a Ď Sisterí, when Mainstream Feminism wants something from me. When theyíre done, then Iím kicked to the curb. I understood long ago that Miss Anne wasnít studdiní about my Black behind, and I donít think Iím alone in that realization.
said before that I wasnít going to hold my breath waiting for Mainstream Feminists to defend Michelle Obama. This was a job that those of us who cared would have to take on our shoulders.
Their silence has been quite instructiveÖ.donít you think
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/wh ...

“lightly burnt,but still smokin”

Level 2

Since: Dec 06

in the corner of your mind,

#468 Feb 11, 2013
"Huskerlicious" aka "ingorant fundie du jour"
because no one can get along with you, no man will touch and you have become a dried up old hag.

awww don't be so hard on yourself,don't be sad that the pope is retiring,he just wants to spend more time with some grandchildren...
Brown Girl in the Ring

UK

#469 Feb 11, 2013
THE RELIC wrote:
<quoted text>
Feminist movement was for and about ww. It was a ww that coined the phrase "I am strong, intelligent and independent".
Why are you parroting ww?
Ya sho nuff one bull d-ke
You sap if you had any sense you wld know BW were treated like cattle to breed by the slavemaster to increase his yield and now a toe rag like you wants to dictate how we shd conduct ourselves.
Ocean56

AOL

#470 Feb 12, 2013
THE RELIC wrote:
I will slap this on ya every time ya post
Knock yourself out. Personally, I think you right-wing misogynist guys are stuck in the 19th century and can't seem to get past it. In his essay "The Subjection of Women," John Stuart Mill said this:

"The general opinion of men is supposed to be, that the natural vocation of a woman is that of a wife and mother. I say, is supposed to be, because, judging from acts -- from the whole of the present condition of society -- one might infer that their opinion was the direct contrary. They might be supposed to think that the alleged natural vocation of women was of all things the most repugnant to their nature; insomuch that if they are free to do anything else -- if any other means of living, or occupation of their time and faculties, is open, which has any chance of appearing desirable to them -- there will not be enough of them who will be willing to accept the condition said to be natural to them. If this is the real opinion of men in general, it would be well that it should be spoken out. I should like to hear somebody openly enunciating the doctrine (it is already implied in much that is written on the subject)-- "It is necessary to society that women should marry and produce children. They will not do so unless compelled. Therefore it is necessary to compel them."

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I think Mill's assessment was 100% accurate. I think that the male policy and law makers of the 18th and 19th centuries, in both church and state, DID believe that it was "necessary" (for THEM, of course) to compel women into being wives, mothers and NOTHING more. To that end, girls received far less education than boys did, and they couldn't attend college. Women were barred from almost all the trades and professions that would allow them to live as financially independent single women. The few occupations that women COULD enter paid far less to women than to men doing the same job. And of course, women weren't allowed to VOTE.

This is exactly the type of injustice and open discrimination against women that the 19th and 20th century feminists fought so hard to eliminate, and, no doubt, what many conservative right-wing guys would like to see women returned to. You guys can't get past the fact that both marriage and motherhood are now CHOICES, which women can REJECT if they don't want to be wives or mothers.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#471 Feb 12, 2013
Every abortion results in the death of a human being.
Brown Girl in the Ring

London, UK

#472 Feb 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Every abortion results in the death of a human being.
no it doesnt it simply means that a girl/woman is able to continue to improve her life

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Level 10

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#473 Feb 12, 2013
Brown Girl in the Ring wrote:
no it doesnt it simply means that a girl/woman is able to continue to improve her life
Improve her life by aborting her unborn baby? Putting an unwanted baby up for adoption improves your life, and everyone's around you. Aborting your unwanted baby murders a very young, innocent human being.

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#474 Feb 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Improve her life by aborting her unborn baby? Putting an unwanted baby up for adoption improves your life, and everyone's around you. Aborting your unwanted baby murders a very young, innocent human being.
how you know a baby being put up for adoption would improve everyone's life around?

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#475 Feb 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Improve her life by aborting her unborn baby? Putting an unwanted baby up for adoption improves your life, and everyone's around you. Aborting your unwanted baby murders a very young, innocent human being.
An unwanted pregnancy improves nothing for the woman/girl. What does she personally benefit from an unwanted pregnancy?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#476 Feb 13, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
how you know a baby being put up for adoption would improve everyone's life around?
I've met women who have put their newborns up for adoption; that's one of the most beautiful acts I've ever witnessed.

Abortion is just another word for death; reject abortion and embrace life.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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#477 Feb 13, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
An unwanted pregnancy improves nothing for the woman/girl. What does she personally benefit from an unwanted pregnancy?
She personally benefits by not killing her baby, instead giving her child to a couple that want the child; the most generous, beautiful act of love I've ever witnessed.

Just by avoiding abortion, you prevent murder.
Brown Girl in the Ring

London, UK

#478 Feb 13, 2013
Both of them end up being psychologically scarred if only on a small scale. The child/adult wondering what the circumstances were why they had to be given up for adoption despite being in a loving family and the mother wondering what happened to her son/daughter. Abortion makes it final and none of those anxieties exist.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Level 10

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#479 Feb 13, 2013
You know nothing about children raised by adoption; they are blessed with parents who chose them. That's not scarred, that's love.

But then, if you think abortion removes anxiety, your moral compass is broken. There's no strife for the dead.
Brown Girl in the Ring

London, UK

#480 Feb 13, 2013
Yr saying you know it all. So what do you know abt mixed raced children being adopted by caucasians?
Ocean56

AOL

#481 Feb 13, 2013
Huskerlicious wrote:
I know a vetanarian who has more than five kids. I worked for a dietician who had twn kids growing up, My sister-in-laws mother was an RN in a large hospital, in fact the supervisor in the trauma dept . these women knew and know how to handle a career and family, and yes the father works too, i think you are sxcared to have children or have no social life because no one can get along with you, no man will touch and you have become a dried up old hag.
All of which adds up to a big SO WHAT, Knutter. If a girl decides she would rather be a doctor, attorney, architect, clothes or jewelry designer, or anything else on that list INSTEAD of a mother, that's fine too.

Contrary to the idiocy you want all women to believe, motherhood is NOT a required part of being a woman. Women have the same right NOT to have children as they do to become mothers. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, remember?
Ocean56

AOL

#482 Feb 13, 2013
Huskerlicious wrote:
... i think you are sxcared to have children or have no social life because no one can get along with you, no man will touch and you have become a dried up old hag.
Oh PLEASE, what nonsense. For women who either never want children or women who have had the number of kids they wanted and are now DONE with the whole procreation thing, it has nothing to do with "being scared." We just know what we DON'T want, it's as simple as that.

Some women don't want kids at all, which is fine. Other women, myself included, don't want MORE children because we have the number of kids WE want, and that is fine too. Personally, I think YOU can't accept the fact that there are women who enjoy life very much WITHOUT children or with just ONE child. Too bad for you, Knutter, you don't get to make sexual and reproductive decisions for anyone but yourself.
Nasty Beast

United States

#483 Feb 13, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh PLEASE, what nonsense. For women who either never want children or women who have had the number of kids they wanted and are now DONE with the whole procreation thing, it has nothing to do with "being scared." We just know what we DON'T want, it's as simple as that.
Some women don't want kids at all, which is fine. Other women, myself included, don't want MORE children because we have the number of kids WE want, and that is fine too. Personally, I think YOU can't accept the fact that there are women who enjoy life very much WITHOUT children or with just ONE child. Too bad for you, Knutter, you don't get to make sexual and reproductive decisions for anyone but yourself.
Is that why you prefer a horse or a dog? They are dumb and "controllable".

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