The greatest boxers of all time
Giggs

Liverpool, UK

#103 Jan 1, 2013
Miguel wrote:
<quoted text>u know that guy impress due to it was a none stop punching boxer. I saw him fight fighters that I thought he was gonna get ko. But prove me wrong just like leonard.
His record speaks for itself.

He fought some very tough people in his career and many fights undefeated.

I mention him because in Britain his whole career was never brought into the limelight in the same way as Hatton and Lewis. He was never really a household name to people who were not that into boxing.

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#104 Jan 1, 2013
cigar face wrote:
<quoted text>Jack Johnson, mike Tyson. I think these two men were the greatest ever. What do you think?
I would say Ali and Roy Jones. I miss Tyson in his prime.
cigar face

United States

#105 Jan 1, 2013
Halle Berry Sister wrote:
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I would say Ali and Roy Jones. I miss Tyson in his prime.
roy jones junior, took the worst beating I ever seen. He cant even remember things cause of those two horrible beatdowns! At lease tyson ran.cause he knew his time as the man was over. Jack johnson put a true beatdown on those white guys back then like a real man should of. Who else is your favorite best boxer?

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#106 Jan 1, 2013
cigar face wrote:
<quoted text>roy jones junior, took the worst beating I ever seen. He cant even remember things cause of those two horrible beatdowns! At lease tyson ran.cause he knew his time as the man was over. Jack johnson put a true beatdown on those white guys back then like a real man should of. Who else is your favorite best boxer?
Tyson and Sugar Ray

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#107 Jan 1, 2013
Giggs wrote:
Joe Calzaghe is probably the most underrated boxer in history.
Yes he was underated, but he didn't fight many boxers in their prime with a name, other than Jeff Lacy, who was still up and coming. He beat an old Nigel Benn, or maybe it was an old Chris Eubanks. These were the two baddest non-heavyweights Britian had in recent time. Why no mention of these two from any of you from Europe? I already know the answer to that.

He also defeated an old Bernard Hopkins who floored him early on, but was too old to keep up. Then he beat a washed up Roy Jones. Too prove he wasn't a fluke, he should have fought Chad Davis. Instead he retired. However he did surprise me by beating Jeff Lacy earlier, the only fighter with a names and in his prime, however still a little wet behind the ear.

I'm not saying this guy wasn't good. He just never got that big fight at the right time for whatever reason. It's like when he became known, all the good fighter were too young and inexperience or too old and washed up. But he would have been defeated by both Hopkins and Jones in their prime. I'm not saying they would have walked through him, but he would have definetly been beat in my opinion.
Giggs

Liverpool, UK

#109 Jan 1, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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He beat an old Nigel Benn, or maybe it was an old Chris Eubanks. These were the two baddest non-heavyweights Britian had in recent time. Why no mention of these two from any of you from Europe? I already know the answer to that.
"I already know the answer to that........"

Im quite offended you say that.

I didn't mention anyone besides Calzaghe white or black.

If you think I don't give black people recognition then you are wrong. Many of my favourite people in Music and sport are black.....or any other race.

True story....although extreamly crazy and hard to believe.

Ive met Chris Eubank (not that ive met that many famous people).....He is quite an interesting guy with an extreamly firm handshake. I like him.

When I was 14 me and 2 friends were misbehaving in a shopping centre. Running around bunking school as kids do.... Security was trying to get at us and we ended up walking through a large crowd of people to get away. We barged passed everyone and ended up walking down a staircase in a book store trying to get away from security.

Out of nowhere this black guy starts walking up the stairs wearing full fox hunting costume and gentleman riding pants. It was none other than Chris Eubank. He saw we were running away and instead of catching us for security he shook our hands very firmly and said "hello boys how do you do" and started talking to us. He was very nice.

People in the crowd had waited for ages to meet him and we just bumped into him randomly whilst trying to get away from the mall cops. He was quite compassionate about our situation and probably because of him the mall cops left us alone.

Eubank is a top guy... Very interesting. He has style and is extreamly well spoken and well mannered......as well as having a killer punch lol.

You will not see me speaking bad about him.:)
Unique2

Macon, GA

#110 Jan 1, 2013
The greatest heavyweights in order in my opinion are: Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis and Evander Holyfield.

While the greatest pound for pound is Sugar Ray Robinson.

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#111 Jan 1, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
He beat an old Nigel Benn, or maybe it was an old Chris Eubanks. These were the two baddest non-heavyweights Britian had in recent time. Why no mention of these two from any of you from Europe? I already know the answer to that.
You have no idea what your talking about. Steve ''Celtic Warrior'' Collins beat Eubank (year younger than Collins) twice, and Benn (ageing) twice and was the WBO Middleweight Champ and the the WBO Super-Middleweight champ and then Roy Jones Jr wouldn't fight him. Steve even went into the ring after a Jones fight and called him out, he went to Jones' front door and called him out.

Freddie Roach has recently said that Collins would've beaten Jones. Don't know if he was right, but I'd have liked to have seen the fight.

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#112 Jan 1, 2013
Collins, Benn and Eubank would have given any of the top American super-middleweights a run for their money and more. Pity the Americans ran from the challenge on more than one occassion.

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#113 Jan 1, 2013
Giggs wrote:
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"I already know the answer to that........"
Im quite offended you say that.
I didn't mention anyone besides Calzaghe white or black.
If you think I don't give black people recognition then you are wrong. Many of my favourite people in Music and sport are black.....or any other race.
True story....although extreamly crazy and hard to believe.
Ive met Chris Eubank (not that ive met that many famous people).....He is quite an interesting guy with an extreamly firm handshake. I like him.
When I was 14 me and 2 friends were misbehaving in a shopping centre. Running around bunking school as kids do.... Security was trying to get at us and we ended up walking through a large crowd of people to get away. We barged passed everyone and ended up walking down a staircase in a book store trying to get away from security.
Out of nowhere this black guy starts walking up the stairs wearing full fox hunting costume and gentleman riding pants. It was none other than Chris Eubank. He saw we were running away and instead of catching us for security he shook our hands very firmly and said "hello boys how do you do" and started talking to us. He was very nice.
People in the crowd had waited for ages to meet him and we just bumped into him randomly whilst trying to get away from the mall cops. He was quite compassionate about our situation and probably because of him the mall cops left us alone.
Eubank is a top guy... Very interesting. He has style and is extreamly well spoken and well mannered......as well as having a killer punch lol.
You will not see me speaking bad about him.:)
Sorry if I offened you. I guess that statement should have been directed at certain others on this thread who tend to see everything in color, then make racist remarks.
Miguel

Corona, CA

#114 Jan 1, 2013
When it comes to track,basketball,and football we have to admit bm are the best in sport. On martial arts,wrestling,and boxing those sparts are for gladiators . On that it depends who is hungrier like I said before cuz mid evil times all races use to battle some win or lose but they came back if the kings didnt had them kill. Whites decided to train minorities or promote then instead. They wanted us to do the job but now is changing cuz alot of boxers are becoming promoters. Am not trying to put nobody down but Floyd till now haven't broke Oscar record on ppv world wide Floyd and manny bring 1.8 million on ppv while oscar brought 2.5. I believe the next to bring good ppv are brooner and andre ward. Ward father was an white irish boxer and mother is black. You check ward out he is good.

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#115 Jan 1, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
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You have no idea what your talking about. Steve ''Celtic Warrior'' Collins beat Eubank (year younger than Collins) twice, and Benn (ageing) twice and was the WBO Middleweight Champ and the the WBO Super-Middleweight champ and then Roy Jones Jr wouldn't fight him. Steve even went into the ring after a Jones fight and called him out, he went to Jones' front door and called him out.
Freddie Roach has recently said that Collins would've beaten Jones. Don't know if he was right, but I'd have liked to have seen the fight.
Chill dude. Remember I'm in the US. Anyway, you're right. It was Steve Collins. That fight between Benn and Collins was so long ago, I got Collins confused with Joe Calazegy(sp?). But I don't think he would have beaten too many of the best champions in the US in their primes.

I felt the same about Nigel Benn. I don't think he would have beaten the best US champions either, although he may have given them a fit. I still think he got away with too many rabbit punches when he defeated Gerald Mclellan. A fight as you know that ended Mclellans' career and almost killed him, leaving him blind. Mclellan had not too long ago knocked out the knock artist Julian Jackson. He even knocked Benn through the ropes in the first round of that fight. That was one of the best fights I've seen. He kept complaining about those rabbit punches, but thats how Benn fought, throwing punches from his ankels. He wasn't doing it on purpose.

Mclellan had enough sense to swallow his pride in that eleventh round and drop to a knee. He
didn't even look that hurt. If he had not done that, he probably would not have made it..

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Dublin

#116 Jan 1, 2013
Also why is Dessie getting off on other peoples achievements and putting down boxers of other races?

I'd like to see him last 30 seconds with a Klitschko.....

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#117 Jan 1, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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Chill dude. Remember I'm in the US. Anyway, you're right. It was Steve Collins. That fight between Benn and Collins was so long ago, I got Collins confused with Joe Calazegy(sp?). But I don't think he would have beaten too many of the best champions in the US in their primes.
I felt the same about Nigel Benn. I don't think he would have beaten the best US champions either, although he may have given them a fit. I still think he got away with too many rabbit punches when he defeated Gerald Mclellan. A fight as you know that ended Mclellans' career and almost killed him, leaving him blind. Mclellan had not too long ago knocked out the knock artist Julian Jackson. He even knocked Benn through the ropes in the first round of that fight. That was one of the best fights I've seen. He kept complaining about those rabbit punches, but thats how Benn fought, throwing punches from his ankels. He wasn't doing it on purpose.
Mclellan had enough sense to swallow his pride in that eleventh round and drop to a knee. He
didn't even look that hurt. If he had not done that, he probably would not have made it..
Oh sorry I didn't mean to come across on a mad one, I like talking boxing. Probably not but I'd love to have seen Collins getting some fights over the in US. He started out over there lost to Mike McCallum by UD in 1990 when he was still an up and coming fighter McCallum said in 2011 that Collins had the best chin he faced and he walked through punches. Collins wasn't really as technically gifted as the top fighters he faced but he had a great chin and engine and was a hard b*stard to top it off.

Yeah that Benn v McClellan fight was some fight. Both looked out on their feet, unfortunate what happened to McClellan and also Michael Watson too. Just disappointing though when I look back and see all the great fights that could have been made in the 1990's between those fighting out of America and those fighting out of the UK. Pity Collins, Benn and Eubank didn't get more fights against American opponents, would've been great to see, especially at that time when the super-middleweight division was so strong...

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#118 Jan 1, 2013
Anyway whats up with RJJ these days? He needs to stop, he's had two wins from his last two against lesser opponents, he should go out on that, I wouldn't like to see him in a ring again. Not nice to watch a fighter such a shadow of their former selves being beaten up. Getting KO'd by Lebedev in the way he did was hard to watch.....
Miguel

Corona, CA

#119 Jan 1, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
Also why is Dessie getting off on other peoples achievements and putting down boxers of other races?
I'd like to see him last 30 seconds with a Klitschko.....
Why would like to see a man get murder. Relax bro. LOL

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#120 Jan 1, 2013
As far as british fighters go, I liked lennox and naseem hamed. nigel benn, chris eubank, joe calzaghe, ricky hatton and all the rest of them were aight, but nothing special. I remember a few years ago, there was an irish fighter called john duddy who was supposed to be the next big thing. More like his career dudded out. I just don't think brits, or europeans in general are good fighters...not among the best. lennox for example isn't really british. he was really jamaican with some canadian roots as well. hamed is from yemen. btw, joe calzaghe was known in boxing circles as joe calsappy. he threw a lotta punches but they were usually pitty pat shots with little power... an old roy jones and an old hopkins both dropped joe calzaghe early before running out of gas...if those guys were in their primes when they fought joe, they'd have taken him out with ease.

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#121 Jan 1, 2013
CORRECTION: joe calslappy...

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#122 Jan 1, 2013
Higgs wrote:
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This is 1000% true statement..black africans are running the jungles of savanna for over 50000 years..also africans are excellent are physical labor unmatched by strength and endurance.
Asians can do the same but not as strong as Africans.. Africans are slow movers because of heavy bones which Asian compensate for by speed as in Bruce-Lee's movies. But extreme hard work can offset any genetic traits.
Can africans win Olympic medals in Swimming ?
Can Europeans win Olympic medals in Track and Field ?
the difference is, track and field is a universal sport. swimming requires money and resources. but as the last olympics proved if blacks take part in swimming, blacks will win that too.

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#123 Jan 2, 2013
Miguel wrote:
<quoted text>The best way to score a fighr is to lower the volume. Clearly the first bout castillo vs mayweather castillo won. Oscar beat floyd but arum protect floyd the think is that the whole world agree oscar and castillo got robbed only dude like u believe floyd won. On guerreo.vs berto yes guerreo foul so as berto hitting behind the head to many times. Mosley vs oscar 2 alot of profesional had oscar won. Manny was robbed against bradley. George foteman vs axel schuls schuls got robbed. U r fool of it man is u who think bm is superman at least am honest. Whitaker was robbed against chavez and randall was robbed against chavez. Any can get robbed and contridict yourself cuz u say judges are profesionals and on the past u said black boxers got robbed against chavez. Get your facts righr and remember what u type cuz u just made yourself stupid by contridicting.
i agree with you about lowering the volume on the tv....because HBO and showtime used to ride oscar dela hoya's jock like crazy. oscar would get beat up like in the felix sturm fight and lampley, merchant and foreman would act like oscar won.

oscar landed a lotta jabs against shane in the second fight...but it was shane landing the bombs that backed oscar up up and did the real damage. so shane deservedly got the decision. but if you listen to HBO, it was like oscar was winning going away and they ignored all the power shots shane was landing. then about the 10th round lampley said on tv "you know what? our commentary on the fight might be wrong!"...they KNEW they were being biased...but all the dumb-a88 mexicans watching the tv believed the lies HBO was telling them.

same with the mayweather-delahoya fight. delahoya landed maybe TWO good punches in the whole fight...delahoya didn't do sh8t. just walked around not throwing punches...it was floyd landing all the jabs and countershots. that fight shoulda been a shutout for floyd....but some judge was smoking crack and looking at a fight inside his own head and scored it for delahoya. truth is, delahoya lost practically every round.

as for the castillo fight, floyd beat the guy with ONE hand...watch it again. it's a myth that mexicans love to repeat that castillo won that fight....castillo was outclassed. it was just that floyd was expected to take castillo to school and knock him the fk out like he did with all the other mexicans...then he hurt his hand and couldn't punch and castillo came on late and landed some good shots. and all the mexicans saw that castillo landed some punches and they got excited were like "castillo is winning!"...castillo did ok against a one hadned fighter, but floyd still beat castillo pretty good.

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