Are Jamaicans Racist Towards Other Blacks?

Created by James on Oct 16, 2008

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Since: Aug 07

Sheffield, UK

#42 Oct 18, 2008
And why is it ALWAYS jamaicans that have to be pointed out??? its not the only island in the caribbean.....
soul brother in London

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#43 Oct 18, 2008
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Since: Jul 08

Philly & London SE6

#44 Oct 18, 2008
EastLDNgyal wrote:
And why is it ALWAYS jamaicans that have to be pointed out??? its not the only island in the caribbean.....
Because this is some idiot trying to promote animosity. In general, Jamaicans are easy-going people and accpeting more so than many other cultures.

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Since: Jul 08

Philly & London SE6

#46 Oct 18, 2008
EastLDNgyal wrote:
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I didn't even know this till my ex who is haitian told me.
In the UK, Caribbeans get on with each other....but they don't mix with indians and maybe Africans.....but the caribbeans nowdays have no problem with each other.
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Riff between some Hatians and Jamaicans in NY is true. And in the UK you can hear some prejudice comments from people from the smaller islands about Jamaica. But, in general people do still intermingle. It's not like they stay segregated.

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Since: Jul 07

Jamaica Queens, New York

#47 Oct 18, 2008
Yeah many Jamaicans do think they are better than other blacks like black americans but they are not the only ones. For example, many Trini and guyanese I know and even the place my family is from st. croix look down on jamaicans. People from Barbados look down on most other caribbeans so it really goes back and forth. Hispanics be on that same dumb shit too. When I think about whites and asians too.

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Since: Jul 08

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#48 Oct 18, 2008
James wrote:
To continue...
Repatriation time
Ms. Drammeh was only repatriated to her homeland this week. She came as a tourist, to visit her Jamaican friend, and always had the means to leave if given the opportunity. Would we treat a white tourist this way? As a result of her incarceration in Jamaica, Ms. Drammeh has lost the chance to continue her studies in Cuba.
Her family is not without influence in the Gambia, and no doubt she will tell everyone how we treat African tourists in this country. I can't blame her.
I am advised that during her time in the Horizon Remand Centre, a white European woman was brought in, but only stayed for a few hours.
We cannot as a country with international obligations, treat people - black or white - in this callous, immoral and illegal manner. Each person in these circumstances must be informed of the reason for his or her detention, advised of their entitlement to legal advice and released or repatriated within a reasonable time. These are the basic rights that everyone is entitled to.
The immigration officers responsible for mistreating this tourist should be held accountable, otherwise it will happen again.
Yes, we have this love/hate relationship with ourselves, and we take it out on the native Africans we can get our hands on. And on Haitians too, if the truth be told; there are lots of black Haitian women at the Horizon Remand Centre right now! In this year when we celebrate the bicentenary of the abolition of the Atlantic slave trade, some of us Jamaicans don't like people who are too black. And we don't care!
what a disgrace...I didnt knew they treat african people this way..very sad indeed
Rasta Man In The US

United States

#49 Oct 18, 2008
It's not about being racist. It's about being REAL.
AND, think about this: Blacks in the U.S. keep blaming Slavery for everything. There was Slavery with us all over the Caribbean too...but you never hear us constantly focusing on it, and always crying about it.
I live in the U.S. now...I won't stay after my career finishes though. I see how blacks are in the U.S. aree with everything. I don't like being mistaken for a U.S. Black...it's embarrassing.

Level 2

Since: Jul 08

Philly & London SE6

#50 Oct 18, 2008
Zippy wrote:
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I got some friends in the St Cathrine area and I agree with you on this one - he's talking out of his batty. JA ain't like that, they LOVE Africa and are more in touch with African roots than some AAs.
Oh God! Here we go... more sterotypes. Okay, first of all, Jamaicans live for the here and now, unless you're referring to certain religious movements in Jamaica. The average Jamaican is not getting DNA test to determine their origins in Africa, not putting the prefix "Afro" in front of their nationality, etc... The main thing most Jamaicans focus on is getting some lavish house built, and/or fixing up the home they own. And some are focused on going abroad so they can live the lifestyle they want. I will say, whatever trend starts in the States tends to make its way down to the Caribbean, so it's possible for Jamaicans to start doing these things. But, trust me, AA's are much more concerned with identifying with Africa then the average Jamaican.

There are so many misonceptions that people outside of Jamaica have about the country, and that's one of the biggest ones.

“lol”

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Since: Sep 07

Miami

#51 Oct 18, 2008
ELG, you know something funny, I got into dancehall reggae music via Bhangra (Punjabi folk) music, a lot of which is nowadays coming out of East London where they have a lot of collaborations with dancehall artists. Like this song, we got Vybz my favorite rapping over a dhol beat in the song in the beginning:

So now they hearing Vybz Kartel in India, imagine, haha. Next thing I can imagine is my Indian friends typing up Vybz Kartel on youtube and they see Yuh Pussy Tight, lmao.

But it seems like they get along a lot if there is so much cultural collaboration in UK. But on that thread with "people from India are new black ppl", I am a little shocked at some of the comments from Indians in Canada and UK. So it is a little confusing.

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Since: Jul 08

Philly & London SE6

#52 Oct 18, 2008
Rasta Man In The US wrote:
It's not about being racist. It's about being REAL.
AND, think about this: Blacks in the U.S. keep blaming Slavery for everything. There was Slavery with us all over the Caribbean too...but you never hear us constantly focusing on it, and always crying about it.
I live in the U.S. now...I won't stay after my career finishes though. I see how blacks are in the U.S. aree with everything. I don't like being mistaken for a U.S. Black...it's embarrassing.
Agreed with most of that! As I said, Jamaicans live for the here and now! I use to live near a Rasta community off of Bustamante HGWY and let me just say I don't know how you can live a REAL RASTA lifestyle in the US. In Jamaica REAL RASTA'S live in their own communities. The whole point of being a Rasta is to live close to nature. Not only that, Rasta's focus on the past just the same so I don't understand where you are coming from.

And note: It's easier for Jamaicans not to focus on slavery because majority of the British left the country when it finished. Those that enslaved us left the island. AA's have it right in their face and have to live as "minorities" in their home country. It's a constant reminder.

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Since: Jul 08

Philly & London SE6

#53 Oct 18, 2008
Sean Bell Curve wrote:
Jamaicans are hard working unlike AAs
Lol, never lived in Jamaica have you. Some are, some aren't!
Buffalo Soldier

Watseka, IL

#54 Oct 18, 2008
Rasta Man In The US wrote:
It's not about being racist. It's about being REAL.
AND, think about this: Blacks in the U.S. keep blaming Slavery for everything. There was Slavery with us all over the Caribbean too...but you never hear us constantly focusing on it, and always crying about it.
I live in the U.S. now...I won't stay after my career finishes though. I see how blacks are in the U.S. aree with everything. I don't like being mistaken for a U.S. Black...it's embarrassing.
Very True, my Bruddah.
I am in the U.S. too, and I share the way you feel. I am mistaken for an African American, just as you have been...by sight (until I speak...with the Caribbean always in my mouth...LOL). It embarrasses me to have people think that I am African American as well. I am a proud Caribbean from Kingston, Jamaica (though I live in California now), always proud of MY people.

“Ignorance is Oblivion”

Since: Oct 08

New York, NY

#55 Oct 18, 2008
baad indyan wrote:
ELG, you know something funny, I got into dancehall reggae music via Bhangra (Punjabi folk) music, a lot of which is nowadays coming out of East London where they have a lot of collaborations with dancehall artists. Like this song, we got Vybz my favorite rapping over a dhol beat in the song in the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hbBs2xTJ52oXX
So now they hearing Vybz Kartel in India, imagine, haha. Next thing I can imagine is my Indian friends typing up Vybz Kartel on youtube and they see Yuh Pussy Tight, lmao.
But it seems like they get along a lot if there is so much cultural collaboration in UK. But on that thread with "people from India are new black ppl", I am a little shocked at some of the comments from Indians in Canada and UK. So it is a little confusing.
The fact is, Indians dont want to be lumped together in the same category as Black people. An Indian who has not been mixed with African will box anyone in their mouth for trying to say that. However, there has been alot of mixing of Indians and Africans in the Caribbean, so obviously, these people who ae of mixed race are more cool about it.

“lol”

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Since: Sep 07

Miami

#56 Oct 18, 2008
Dasyra wrote:
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The fact is, Indians dont want to be lumped together in the same category as Black people. An Indian who has not been mixed with African will box anyone in their mouth for trying to say that. However, there has been alot of mixing of Indians and Africans in the Caribbean, so obviously, these people who ae of mixed race are more cool about it.
Usually people who are extremely hostile about being mistaken in their identity have a soft spot on the inside like they know somewhere in them they have it. Real examples of this, where someone will "box you in the mouth" for mistaking identity is like you mistake a Pakistani for an Indian, or a Dominican for black, or an Indian for an Arab/Muslim.

Indians have minimal history of hostility with Africans in my opinion. With the exception of Idi Amin in Uganda which affected a handful of Gujjus (really a small drop in the bucket for entire population of Indians), there is really no bad blood.
If someone thought I was black, I'd tell them to get their eyes checked, but nowhere close to punching them in their face.
Now, I remember when I came to US right after 9/11 and people used to say if Osama is my uncle and regularly call me Paki/terrorist/Ay-rab, etc. I got into a fight in school within 1 week.

“Ignorance is Oblivion”

Since: Oct 08

New York, NY

#59 Oct 18, 2008
baad indyan wrote:
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Usually people who are extremely hostile about being mistaken in their identity have a soft spot on the inside like they know somewhere in them they have it. Real examples of this, where someone will "box you in the mouth" for mistaking identity is like you mistake a Pakistani for an Indian, or a Dominican for black, or an Indian for an Arab/Muslim.
Indians have minimal history of hostility with Africans in my opinion. With the exception of Idi Amin in Uganda which affected a handful of Gujjus (really a small drop in the bucket for entire population of Indians), there is really no bad blood.
If someone thought I was black, I'd tell them to get their eyes checked, but nowhere close to punching them in their face.
Now, I remember when I came to US right after 9/11 and people used to say if Osama is my uncle and regularly call me Paki/terrorist/Ay-rab, etc. I got into a fight in school within 1 week.
So maybe boxing is not needed in most cases haha. Of course, both Indians and blacks can at least identify b/c they have both experienced racism and civil rights struggles (Gandhi influnced MLK for instance) so there shouldnt be any bad blood, you are right

“ZZZZZZZ”

Since: Oct 07

ATL

#62 Oct 18, 2008
L-des wrote:
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Yeah Rasta Man let's keep it real.
I see your not embarrassed to take United States money.
Also you need your not embarrassed to collect the United States of American Pension. Keep it real Rasta, no such thing as a pension, social security benifits or an ABUNDANCE of JOBS.
You should be embarrassed OF JAMAICA you to have to leave your country to earn a decent living, and put food on the table for your family.
Your country has no natural resources but sugarcane fields and the best DAYUM GANGA in the world.
LOL
Buffalo Soldier

Watseka, IL

#63 Oct 18, 2008
L-des wrote:
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I'm always being mistaken for Jamaican. Trust me, the way Some not all jamaican people act and dress on Gunhill Road in the Bronx, I am EMBARRASSED as HELL.
Furthermore, Some Jamaicans always speak there
dialect to me until I tell them I'm not Jamaican, I'm a Proud Black American living in America.
I going to keep it real, thank god I do not have to move to your country to prosper.
And how is it that you are mistaken for a Jamaican...LOL.
So, you are embarrassed for us. And how do your people dress...LOL... with their britches falling and knickers showing like that...LOL...big hats turned around, and big clothes...LOL. Tell me!
Remember, I am not one of you. I am not a fool who just believes what others like you say...LOL. You are simply a frustrated, and foolish African American Black Woman. You have NOTHING in common with us!
You should not even post your foolish opinions to me...LOL.

“ZZZZZZZ”

Since: Oct 07

ATL

#64 Oct 18, 2008
Buffalo Soldier wrote:
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And how is it that you are mistaken for a Jamaican...LOL.
So, you are embarrassed for us. And how do your people dress...LOL... with their britches falling and knickers showing like that...LOL...big hats turned around, and big clothes...LOL. Tell me!
Remember, I am not one of you. I am not a fool who just believes what others like you say...LOL. You are simply a frustrated, and foolish African American Black Woman. You have NOTHING in common with us!
You should not even post your foolish opinions to me...LOL.
You posted a screen name of something you know nothing of. There's no Buffalo in Jamicai! LOL .
Buffalo Soldier

Watseka, IL

#65 Oct 18, 2008
stereo type breaker wrote:
<quoted text>You posted a screen name of something you know nothing of. There's no Buffalo in Jamicai! LOL .
Do you know of the music of Bob Marley? Probably you do not...he is not of your culture...as you have no culture. You can only complain of the culture of others.
Please do not post to me...you have nothing in common with us. You do not understand us...and you do not even understand yourselves.

“ZZZZZZZ”

Since: Oct 07

ATL

#66 Oct 18, 2008
Buffalo Soldier wrote:
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Do you know of the music of Bob Marley? Probably you do not...he is not of your culture...as you have no culture. You can only complain of the culture of others.
Please do not post to me...you have nothing in common with us. You do not understand us...and you do not even understand yourselves.
Who does not know Bob Marley, he song was based on 19th century AMERICAN war tales! I have culture. Don't worry about me! I keep posting to you as long as you post dumb stuff!

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