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James
Toronto, Canada
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WHY ARE RACIST JAMAICANS HURTING INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE? It is no secret that most Jamaicans are extremely rude and ignorant. I have also found that the vast majority of Jamaicans are very racist and intolerant towards other black people, almost in the same way that the Ku Klux Klan or white supremacist neo-Nazis are racially intolerant towards blacks. As a matter of fact, I once knew a Jamaican who always carried a copy of Mein Kampf around in public and was always speaking about how great his hatred was for black people. Now, before anybody accuses me of being biased, I will have to admit that I have been to Jamaica and have lived there (in both country and town) for an extensive period of time. I have seen with my own eyes how Jamaicans treat black and non-black visitors. If the visitor happens to be white or non-black, Jamaicans will go out of there way to accomodate that person any way they can. If the visitor is black, whether he is from the USA, England, Gambia, or any other nation, they will automatically treat him like a piece of garbage or a second-class citizen. To sum: if you happen to be black in Jamaica, you should expect to be abused and mistreated. If you are white and in Jamaica, expect to be treated like a king (atleast in comparison to how black people are treated). I have also noticed that when abroad, most Jamaicans will gang up on other black people and even many people of East Indian descent as well. Many Jamaicans, when they attain positions of power ( like becoming a judge, police officer) in countries like the USA or England, will go out of their way to racially discriminate against black people. I think it is obvious that most Jamaicans despise black culture and history, not to mention black people. However, I must admit that black self-hatred is not only confined to Jamaica; in the countries of Latin America, many blacks express a violent hatred towards people of African descent. Nevertheless, in terms of black self-hatred, Jamaica is the worst offender in this regard. To conclude, I think that Jamaicans often pick on black people, and sometimes East Indians as well, because they know they can get away with it. A Jamaican would never pick on a white person, because they know there would be serious repercussions for doing so. Even if the white person was a freak or an eccentric of some kind, no Jamaican would ever go out of his way to hurt that person, because 50 white people would jump out of nowhere and that Jamaican would get f*cked up. I believe that Jamaicans avoid targeting white people for bullying because white people have more advantages than blacks and are often deeply embedded in personal social networks that makes it difficult for other people to victimize them and get away with it. Most dark-skinned people, on the other hand, do not have the same kinds of advantages as whites and are not as heavily supported by their peers as whites are. Thus, when a Jamaican sees someone with a dark skin, they know that if they go out of their way to victimize this person, there is an 80 - 90% chance that they will get away with it. Jamaicans are, almost by definition, predators who look tough by preying on the weak and vulnerable.
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James
Toronto, Canada
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This is a serious topic. Jamaicans are racially discriminating against black people. Let's discuss this.
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“OUT OF MANY, ONE PEOPLE”
Joined: Jan 1, 2008
Comments: 1689
Queens New York Born
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James wrote: WHY ARE RACIST JAMAICANS HURTING INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE? It is no secret that most Jamaicans are extremely rude and ignorant. I have also found that the vast majority of Jamaicans are very racist and intolerant towards other black people, almost in the same way that the Ku Klux Klan or white supremacist neo-Nazis are racially intolerant towards blacks. As a matter of fact, I once knew a Jamaican who always carried a copy of Mein Kampf around in public and was always speaking about how great his hatred was for black people. Now, before anybody accuses me of being biased, I will have to admit that I have been to Jamaica and have lived there (in both country and town) for an extensive period of time. I have seen with my own eyes how Jamaicans treat black and non-black visitors. If the visitor happens to be white or non-black, Jamaicans will go out of there way to accomodate that person any way they can. If the visitor is black, whether he is from the USA, England, Gambia, or any other nation, they will automatically treat him like a piece of garbage or a second-class citizen. To sum: if you happen to be black in Jamaica, you should expect to be abused and mistreated. If you are white and in Jamaica, expect to be treated like a king (atleast in comparison to how black people are treated). I have also noticed that when abroad, most Jamaicans will gang up on other black people and even many people of East Indian descent as well. Many Jamaicans, when they attain positions of power ( like becoming a judge, police officer) in countries like the USA or England, will go out of their way to racially discriminate against black people. I think it is obvious that most Jamaicans despise black culture and history, not to mention black people. However, I must admit that black self-hatred is not only confined to Jamaica; in the countries of Latin America, many blacks express a violent hatred towards people of African descent. Nevertheless, in terms of black self-hatred, Jamaica is the worst offender in this regard. To conclude, I think that Jamaicans often pick on black people, and sometimes East Indians as well, because they know they can get away with it. A Jamaican would never pick on a white person, because they know there would be serious repercussions for doing so. Even if the white person was a freak or an eccentric of some kind, no Jamaican would ever go out of his way to hurt that person, because 50 white people would jump out of nowhere and that Jamaican would get f*cked up. I believe that Jamaicans avoid targeting white people for bullying because white people have more advantages than blacks and are often deeply embedded in personal social networks that makes it difficult for other people to victimize them and get away with it. Most dark-skinned people, on the other hand, do not have the same kinds of advantages as whites and are not as heavily supported by their peers as whites are. Thus, when a Jamaican sees someone with a dark skin, they know that if they go out of their way to victimize this person, there is an 80 - 90% chance that they will get away with it. Jamaicans are, almost by definition, predators who look tough by preying on the weak and vulnerable. Jamaicans don't hate all blacks just you!! LOL
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“I don't think so!!!!!!”
Joined: Jun 1, 2008
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Oakland
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Am I missing something here but, last I looked (and my own personal experience with a Jamaican) they ARE black.........?
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James
Toronto, Canada
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Listen... If you don't believe that Jamaicans are racially intolerant towards other blacks, than read this article written by a Jamaican reporter for the Jamaica Gleaner newspaper: We Jamaicans have a special affinity for Africa and things African, and rightly so; for the vast majority of us have deep African roots. But it is also true that we hate ourselves and our African-ness, our black-ness, such that we seek to bleach it out and straighten it out, and 'plastic surgery' it out. More on that anon. One of the ways we show our hatred for Africa and things African is how we treat native Africans on our soil. Even in the Church! I want to share with youthe case of an African woman, Jainaba Drammeh from the Gambia, brought to my attention by someone commenting on last week's column. Ms. Drammeh, who was doing a Master's degree in Cuba, came to Jamaica in November 2006 to visit a Jamaican friend from Clarendon she had met in Cuba; so we have to define her as a tourist. On entry into Jamaica at the Norman Manley International Airport, Ms. Drammeh was given permission to stay in Jamaica until November 29, 2006. On November 19, 2006 she left Jamaica to return to Cuba through Nassau, Bahamas. For some reason the immigration authorities in Nassau refused her entry and returned her on November 20 to Jamaica. Upon arrival in Jamaica, she was refused entry, despite the previous permission to remain in Jamaica until November 29, 2006. She was held against her will at the airport for three days and then taken to the Horizon Remand Centre where she was locked up for five months. Ms. Drammeh was never informed of the reason for her incarceration, never taken before any court, never provided with the services of counsel, never allowed to contact her university in Cuba or her family in the Gambia. She was not assisted in any way to contact her Clarendon friend to tell her of her plight, even though the immigration authorities knew she had recently stayed there. She was unlawfully held during a period when she had permission to stay in Jamaica, and unlawfully incarcerated thereafter without recourse to any court or any legal advice. Ms. Drammeh tried to smuggle a note with her friend's phone number out of Horizon, for someone to call her, but it was always found. It was only on May 1, 2007 that one of the immigration officers called her Clarendon friend inquiring if she could provide U.S. dollars for Ms. Drammeh on her journey home to the Gambia. The Clarendon lady was shocked that her friend and guest had been returned to Jamaica and was being held by the authorities for so long without her knowledge; on May 4, 2007 Ms. Drammeh was released into the custody of her Clarendon friend.
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James
Toronto, Canada
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To continue... Repatriation time Ms. Drammeh was only repatriated to her homeland this week. She came as a tourist, to visit her Jamaican friend, and always had the means to leave if given the opportunity. Would we treat a white tourist this way? As a result of her incarceration in Jamaica, Ms. Drammeh has lost the chance to continue her studies in Cuba. Her family is not without influence in the Gambia, and no doubt she will tell everyone how we treat African tourists in this country. I can't blame her. I am advised that during her time in the Horizon Remand Centre, a white European woman was brought in, but only stayed for a few hours. We cannot as a country with international obligations, treat people - black or white - in this callous, immoral and illegal manner. Each person in these circumstances must be informed of the reason for his or her detention, advised of their entitlement to legal advice and released or repatriated within a reasonable time. These are the basic rights that everyone is entitled to. The immigration officers responsible for mistreating this tourist should be held accountable, otherwise it will happen again. Yes, we have this love/hate relationship with ourselves, and we take it out on the native Africans we can get our hands on. And on Haitians too, if the truth be told; there are lots of black Haitian women at the Horizon Remand Centre right now! In this year when we celebrate the bicentenary of the abolition of the Atlantic slave trade, some of us Jamaicans don't like people who are too black. And we don't care!
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James wrote: Listen... If you don't believe that Jamaicans are racially intolerant towards other blacks, than read this article written by a Jamaican reporter for the Jamaica Gleaner newspaper: We Jamaicans have a special affinity for Africa and things African, and rightly so; for the vast majority of us have deep African roots. But it is also true that we hate ourselves and our African-ness, our black-ness, such that we seek to bleach it out and straighten it out, and 'plastic surgery' it out. More on that anon. One of the ways we show our hatred for Africa and things African is how we treat native Africans on our soil. Even in the Church! I want to share with youthe case of an African woman, Jainaba Drammeh from the Gambia, brought to my attention by someone commenting on last week's column. Ms. Drammeh, who was doing a Master's degree in Cuba, came to Jamaica in November 2006 to visit a Jamaican friend from Clarendon she had met in Cuba; so we have to define her as a tourist. On entry into Jamaica at the Norman Manley International Airport, Ms. Drammeh was given permission to stay in Jamaica until November 29, 2006. On November 19, 2006 she left Jamaica to return to Cuba through Nassau, Bahamas. For some reason the immigration authorities in Nassau refused her entry and returned her on November 20 to Jamaica. Upon arrival in Jamaica, she was refused entry, despite the previous permission to remain in Jamaica until November 29, 2006. She was held against her will at the airport for three days and then taken to the Horizon Remand Centre where she was locked up for five months. Ms. Drammeh was never informed of the reason for her incarceration, never taken before any court, never provided with the services of counsel, never allowed to contact her university in Cuba or her family in the Gambia. She was not assisted in any way to contact her Clarendon friend to tell her of her plight, even though the immigration authorities knew she had recently stayed there. She was unlawfully held during a period when she had permission to stay in Jamaica, and unlawfully incarcerated thereafter without recourse to any court or any legal advice. Ms. Drammeh tried to smuggle a note with her friend's phone number out of Horizon, for someone to call her, but it was always found. It was only on May 1, 2007 that one of the immigration officers called her Clarendon friend inquiring if she could provide U.S. dollars for Ms. Drammeh on her journey home to the Gambia. The Clarendon lady was shocked that her friend and guest had been returned to Jamaica and was being held by the authorities for so long without her knowledge; on May 4, 2007 Ms. Drammeh was released into the custody of her Clarendon friend. Clarendon is the bomb ! i loooove Clarendon the people are freat and so welcoming !
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Kettering, UK
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edit ^^^ the people are great
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James
Toronto, Canada
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Hello? Is somebody missing something here? Can you not be black and hate being black at the same time? Jamaicans are black, but they are filled with a great self-hatred towards their own blackness. Most Jamaicans hate everything African, but worship anything that looks white and European. Jamaica really is an Island of Hate and Jamaicans are the emissaries of hatred towards defenceless and vulnerable black people.
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“let it all hang OUT”
Joined: Jan 19, 2008
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yo mamas bed.
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Well i must say yes but only some (a lot) I remember when i moved to Toronto. At first i was so happy there was so many Blacks here but i Quikly realized that most of the Black kids in my high school (Jamaicans) are not very welcoming of other Blacks. i have in the other hand met some(few) who are pretty cool .
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“dis miss canday”
Joined: Jan 13, 2008
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Wichita, KS
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James wrote: WHY ARE RACIST JAMAICANS HURTING INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE? It is no secret that most Jamaicans are extremely rude and ignorant. I have also found that the vast majority of Jamaicans are very racist and intolerant towards other black people, almost in the same way that the Ku Klux Klan or white supremacist neo-Nazis are racially intolerant towards blacks. As a matter of fact, I once knew a Jamaican who always carried a copy of Mein Kampf around in public and was always speaking about how great his hatred was for black people. Now, before anybody accuses me of being biased, I will have to admit that I have been to Jamaica and have lived there (in both country and town) for an extensive period of time. I have seen with my own eyes how Jamaicans treat black and non-black visitors. If the visitor happens to be white or non-black, Jamaicans will go out of there way to accomodate that person any way they can. If the visitor is black, whether he is from the USA, England, Gambia, or any other nation, they will automatically treat him like a piece of garbage or a second-class citizen. To sum: if you happen to be black in Jamaica, you should expect to be abused and mistreated. If you are white and in Jamaica, expect to be treated like a king (atleast in comparison to how black people are treated). I have also noticed that when abroad, most Jamaicans will gang up on other black people and even many people of East Indian descent as well. Many Jamaicans, when they attain positions of power ( like becoming a judge, police officer) in countries like the USA or England, will go out of their way to racially discriminate against black people. I think it is obvious that most Jamaicans despise black culture and history, not to mention black people. However, I must admit that black self-hatred is not only confined to Jamaica; in the countries of Latin America, many blacks express a violent hatred towards people of African descent. Nevertheless, in terms of black self-hatred, Jamaica is the worst offender in this regard. To conclude, I think that Jamaicans often pick on black people, and sometimes East Indians as well, because they know they can get away with it. A Jamaican would never pick on a white person, because they know there would be serious repercussions for doing so. Even if the white person was a freak or an eccentric of some kind, no Jamaican would ever go out of his way to hurt that person, because 50 white people would jump out of nowhere and that Jamaican would get f*cked up. I believe that Jamaicans avoid targeting white people for bullying because white people have more advantages than blacks and are often deeply embedded in personal social networks that makes it difficult for other people to victimize them and get away with it. Most dark-skinned people, on the other hand, do not have the same kinds of advantages as whites and are not as heavily supported by their peers as whites are. Thus, when a Jamaican sees someone with a dark skin, they know that if they go out of their way to victimize this person, there is an 80 - 90% chance that they will get away with it. Jamaicans are, almost by definition, predators who look tough by preying on the weak and vulnerable. I don't know any jamaicans so I wouldn't know.
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James
Toronto, Canada
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Oh, and another thing, because everybody wants to brush this very serious topic under the rug, did you know that the ideological roots of modern white supremacy come from Jamaica? Yup, Edward Long was a Jamaican who taught black inferiority and white superiority; he was the first person to formulate an ideology of white supremacy in his famous book, the History of Jamaica. If you don't believe me, google it. And we wonder why so many Jamaicans are filled with racial hatred towards other blacks.
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James
Toronto, Canada
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I have lived in a number of black countries, and to tell you the truth, Jamaicans are the rudest, coldest, most ignorant people I've ever been around. Jamaicans are genuinely mean and nasty! People who say that Americans are mean and nasty haven't been anywhere or seen anything, in addition to probably not being able to look after themselves properly. Jamaica is one of the worst places on earth.
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“I don't think so!!!!!!”
Joined: Jun 1, 2008
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Oakland
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James wrote: This is a serious topic. Jamaicans are racially discriminating against black people. Let's discuss this. Well, maybe you can answer this then. My Jamaican EX doesn't want anything to do with his Jamaican roots. He doesn't identify with them at all. Born in Kingston, his biggest fear is being deported BACK...'Splain that, Lucy......
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James
Toronto, Canada
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NotSoDivineMsM wrote: <quoted text> Well, maybe you can answer this then. My Jamaican EX doesn't want anything to do with his Jamaican roots. He doesn't identify with them at all. Born in Kingston, his biggest fear is being deported BACK...'Splain that, Lucy...... Sounds like one of the few Jamaicans who realize how rude, ignorant, and racist most Jamaicans are and refuses to identify with the Jamaican culture of anti-black hatred.
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“I don't think so!!!!!!”
Joined: Jun 1, 2008
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Oakland
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James wrote: <quoted text> Sounds like one of the few Jamaicans who realize how rude, ignorant, and racist most Jamaicans are and refuses to identify with the Jamaican culture of anti-black hatred. Not sure about that. He was raised in the UK and lives in Toronto now....YOU can keep him there too, thank you......He IS rude....He thinks he is special (NOT) but that is because his mommy has babied his grown arse.....WORTHLESS ABOUT SUMS IT UP......
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Jawga Boy
Marietta, GA
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There is no such animal as black on black "racism", there however is "colorism". Get your damned facts right.
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“Update--2-months old!!!!!!!!!!”
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The country
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justmeagain wrote: http://www.stfu.se/ Cosign!!!!!!!*SMH* at this Poll!
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Philly & London SE6
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James wrote: To continue... Repatriation time Ms. Drammeh was only repatriated to her homeland this week. She came as a tourist, to visit her Jamaican friend, and always had the means to leave if given the opportunity. Would we treat a white tourist this way? As a result of her incarceration in Jamaica, Ms. Drammeh has lost the chance to continue her studies in Cuba. Her family is not without influence in the Gambia, and no doubt she will tell everyone how we treat African tourists in this country. I can't blame her. I am advised that during her time in the Horizon Remand Centre, a white European woman was brought in, but only stayed for a few hours. We cannot as a country with international obligations, treat people - black or white - in this callous, immoral and illegal manner. Each person in these circumstances must be informed of the reason for his or her detention, advised of their entitlement to legal advice and released or repatriated within a reasonable time. These are the basic rights that everyone is entitled to. The immigration officers responsible for mistreating this tourist should be held accountable, otherwise it will happen again. Yes, we have this love/hate relationship with ourselves, and we take it out on the native Africans we can get our hands on. And on Haitians too, if the truth be told; there are lots of black Haitian women at the Horizon Remand Centre right now! In this year when we celebrate the bicentenary of the abolition of the Atlantic slave trade, some of us Jamaicans don't like people who are too black. And we don't care! If Jamaicans are so rascist, how did she have a friend there? Your nothing but another troll coming here to divide people. Any person can be intolerant of other people, but claiming that Jamaicans in particular are of other blacks, is going to take a lot more than giving a story about someone's trials with immigration. I've heard a few nightmare stories about immigration in the US and in the UK. This was a poor attempt on your part to make your point. Come back with something else.
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