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ashanti king

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Feb 18, 2013
 
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<quoted text>I don't think people are confused by African Americans. I think everyone understands African Americans, but some black groups of African descent (Jamaican, Haitian, and native Black Africans, e.g., Nigerians, Ghanians, etc...) wants African Americans to feel a sense of admiration for them, but African Americans have no reason to admire any other black group. African Americans can respect and be considerate of other black groups, but other groups want much more than that from African Americans.

Jamaicans and Haitians are majority black countries (Islands) that now rule themselves, so they may want African Americans to be in awe of them for that, but African Americans are not in awe of them.

In regards to native Africans, e.g., Nigerians, Ghanaians, Liberians, etc..., they want African Americans to view them as superiors, because that is their culture and society. In those societies, they have always had a class system, just like in India. African Americans are viewed as a group who are descended of slaves, which is the lowest you can go in their eyes, so they feel that African Americans should worship them (all native Africans) the way that those in lower-status economic positions in their (African) societies worship the elite in their native African societies, e.g., tribal chiefs, upper middle class, educated, etc..., but African Americans refuse to demean themselves by acting inferior to anyone, including other black groups; it is for this reason that native Africans are always complaining about African Americans not wanting to learn their customs, because as Africans, they'd know they place and they'd possibly learn to humble themselves to any and all native, black Africans, but that will never happen with African Americans.

This is why so many people dislike African Americans, but the overwhelming majority of African Americans could care less about other groups disliking them, because they have to feel good about themselves first and foremost--it's not important to them how other people feel about them. African Americans are not their ancestors--they refuse to be demeaned, degraded and mistreated without retribution to those who seek to abuse them in any way; sadly, many groups think African Americans don't know their place in this world--some think that their place is at the bottom of everyone else, including at the bottom of all other black groups, but African Americans don't share that warped mindset. African Americans see themselves as a unique group that fought for every ounce of freedom and pride that they now have, and not many of them are willing to return to the past of being made to feel inferior to anyone for any reason.

African Americans are not misunderstood--most people understands them very well--they just don't like what they know about the group's unwillingness to be submissive and humble to others.
Where do u get this load of crap from?
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Feb 18, 2013
 
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Exactly. Out of the blue, next thing we know and they were pushing pork on the Somalis and so now, so that there are no starving children and even though they only comprise 8% of the student body, which was already stated, the entire menu must be Halal because we know those hamburgers are fried in pig fat. Oh and it was the KKKKristians who are instigated the fight as well for pushing the pork on the Somalis. And it was on. LOL
Islamologic. They'll start beheading people over imaginary events. In Nigeria they murdered a bunch of Christians because someone spread a rumor that a Christian had torn a page from the Kor'an. Never happened, but never mind... any excuse is a good one for an Islamoriot.

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I don't think people are confused by African Americans. I think everyone understands African Americans, but some black groups of African descent (Jamaican, Haitian, and native Black Africans, e.g., Nigerians, Ghanians, etc...) wants African Americans to feel a sense of admiration for them, but African Americans have no reason to admire any other black group. African Americans can respect and be considerate of other black groups, but other groups want much more than that from African Americans.
Jamaicans and Haitians are majority black countries (Islands) that now rule themselves, so they may want African Americans to be in awe of them for that, but African Americans are not in awe of them.
In regards to native Africans, e.g., Nigerians, Ghanaians, Liberians, etc..., they want African Americans to view them as superiors, because that is their culture and society. In those societies, they have always had a class system, just like in India. African Americans are viewed as a group who are descended of slaves, which is the lowest you can go in their eyes, so they feel that African Americans should worship them (all native Africans) the way that those in lower-status economic positions in their (African) societies worship the elite in their native African societies, e.g., tribal chiefs, upper middle class, educated, etc..., but African Americans refuse to demean themselves by acting inferior to anyone, including other black groups; it is for this reason that native Africans are always complaining about African Americans not wanting to learn their customs, because as Africans, they'd know they place and they'd possibly learn to humble themselves to any and all native, black Africans, but that will never happen with African Americans.
This is why so many people dislike African Americans, but the overwhelming majority of African Americans could care less about other groups disliking them, because they have to feel good about themselves first and foremost--it's not important to them how other people feel about them. African Americans are not their ancestors--they refuse to be demeaned, degraded and mistreated without retribution to those who seek to abuse them in any way; sadly, many groups think African Americans don't know their place in this world--some think that their place is at the bottom of everyone else, including at the bottom of all other black groups, but African Americans don't share that warped mindset. African Americans see themselves as a unique group that fought for every ounce of freedom and pride that they now have, and not many of them are willing to return to the past of being made to feel inferior to anyone for any reason.
African Americans are not misunderstood--most people understands them very well--they just don't like what they know about the group's unwillingness to be submissive and humble to others.
You know what, I think you virtually hit the nail on the head here! I had to tell my african friend we dont care what you think about us, because we dont care about you anyway. I think they find it weird that we are more interested in our own people. My co-worker feels this need to try to claim us, and say we are african in our office, all the black americans said no, we are black american or african american, and she got mad as hell. I do get what you are saying, and I work with tons of africans. Some are in lower positions than me, but want me to address them like they are royalty. Im not talking all africans. I did tell my co-worker later, that many of us did not care about africa, and that we have virtually moved on, she got mad, and thought I should care.

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Feb 19, 2013
 
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Begrijp je ook de Nederlandse taal..? Uit mijn eigen ervaring heb ik namelijk hele leuke discussies gehad met Afrikaners. Mooie mensen. Vaak erg direct en hard, net zoals ons Nederlanders... Al moet ik zeggen dat Nederlanders een beetje softer geworden zijn. Wat dat betreft kunnen we wel wat van jullie leren. ;-)

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Where do u get this load of crap from?
You may not be that way, but some africans do think they are superior to african americns. One nigerian called me the "son of slaves" on another forum I visit, but said he was their to fellowship with his other brother and sistas. Im like what?? You belittle me, then say your on here to socialize with us. Its not on topix. His friend told me he had issues, but he did not know this guy thought little of AA's.

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Feb 19, 2013
 
aisling- wrote:
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Exactly. Out of the blue, next thing we know and they were pushing pork on the Somalis and so now, so that there are no starving children and even though they only comprise 8% of the student body, which was already stated, the entire menu must be Halal because we know those hamburgers are fried in pig fat. Oh and it was the KKKKristians who are instigated the fight as well for pushing the pork on the Somalis. And it was on. LOL
sorry. but most to none of the food is not fried these days. depending on the school and what they have for the kitchen area, they tend to use ovens to prepare the food.
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heck, some of the food comes already prepared in many ways. so it is easier on the cooks to cook the food.
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ain't like the days when I was in school with a teeny tiny kitchen with ten to fifteen ladies trying to make lunch for the masses. and trying to do it on a limited time basis with huge pots and kettles. and actually having to fry things.
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been in school kitchens. not only for to see how they did things. but also helping during the first couple of years with the breakfast program when Anoka-Hennepin 11 started using it for the kids.

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Feb 19, 2013
 
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Begrijp je ook de Nederlandse taal..? Uit mijn eigen ervaring heb ik namelijk hele leuke discussies gehad met Afrikaners. Mooie mensen. Vaak erg direct en hard, net zoals ons Nederlanders... Al moet ik zeggen dat Nederlanders een beetje softer geworden zijn. Wat dat betreft kunnen we wel wat van jullie leren. ;-)
Ja, ek verstaan &#8203;&#8203;Nederlan dse hoewel daardie taal en myne is, is nie meer so soortgelyke.Ons het 'n paar Franse en Portugese gemengde in.But natuurlik Nederlands is nog steeds verstaanbaar aan ons.
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#380
Feb 19, 2013
 
Qutb wrote; modernization through the natural sciences is fine, but not through westernising philosophical sciences.'. Nollywood and African in general should take what this says and make it their mantra.
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Feb 19, 2013
 
NoArguingAllowed wrote:
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I don't think people are confused by African Americans. I think everyone understands African Americans, but some black groups of African descent (Jamaican, Haitian, and native Black Africans, e.g., Nigerians, Ghanians, etc...) wants African Americans to feel a sense of admiration for them, but African Americans have no reason to admire any other black group. African Americans can respect and be considerate of other black groups, but other groups want much more than that from African Americans.
Jamaicans and Haitians are majority black countries (Islands) that now rule themselves, so they may want African Americans to be in awe of them for that, but African Americans are not in awe of them.
In regards to native Africans, e.g., Nigerians, Ghanaians, Liberians, etc..., they want African Americans to view them as superiors, because that is their culture and society. In those societies, they have always had a class system, just like in India. African Americans are viewed as a group who are descended of slaves, which is the lowest you can go in their eyes, so they feel that African Americans should worship them (all native Africans) the way that those in lower-status economic positions in their (African) societies worship the elite in their native African societies, e.g., tribal chiefs, upper middle class, educated, etc..., but African Americans refuse to demean themselves by acting inferior to anyone, including other black groups; it is for this reason that native Africans are always complaining about African Americans not wanting to learn their customs, because as Africans, they'd know they place and they'd possibly learn to humble themselves to any and all native, black Africans, but that will never happen with African Americans.

African Americans are not misunderstood--most people understands them very well--they just don't like what they know about the group's unwillingness to be submissive and humble to others.
Hi NAA,

Reading your words, I felt as if I was a student, back in school Certainly, I intend to download your comments.
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I respectfully disagree with one or two ideas. In terms of self respect, we must never forget that Blacks
inhabit a social system dominated by whites--older white men in particular. While each Black individual may adopt an attitude of self worth, as you point out, the social/cutural/conomic system continues to determine important factors such as jobs, education, health care,, etc. Perhaps, some would go further. A person who views himself as one thing, and his world views him in a completely different way might well have mental problems.(I say this as a possibility, not a fact.) Moreover, in cases he/she may be rejected by both groups as well as his own. One book, and a very good one, is Cruz's "Crisis of the Black Intellectual." While Cruz's books deals with political questions, I feel it has some implications for individuals.
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It is in this way that Africans and Islanders feel superior. They grew up in a social system that supported the Black individual. Thus, they childhood and their lives were not defined in terms of a dominating white culture.(Marcus Garvey being a notable exception)

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Feb 19, 2013
 
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Hi Abdurrain,
First, let me say that I believe you are an honorable individual.
So much material has been erroneously spoken and published, that I confess, I often go to the NET to double check. Modern revisionist regarding slavery and Islamic participation is absolutely ridiculous.
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It does seem to be true that Bantu slaves were held in Somalia. Actually, there are currently Bantu's living in the U.S. and elsewhere that confirm as muchl
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.http://www.somalibantucommuni ty.org/id19.html
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This is not about "it seems..." This is about evidence and facts. The very first line of the link you gave is this: " We are Somali Bantu group who was brought in Somalia as slave in the 19th Century by the agents of the Sultan of Zanzibar and Sayid Barkash and particularly suffered persecution and marginalization in Somalia." I checked it as I always do. But I did not read beyond that one line. It said they were enslaved by the sukltan of Zanzibar. That is where most of the eastern slave trade was: Zanzibar. It was not in Somalia. And I have never seen any evidence that would cliam it was in Somalia.

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<quoted text>Here is a website supported by Bantus, that confirms what I believe to be true,
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.Regarding Muslims enslaving Muslims, I am drawing a conclusion from the known facts. Non Muslims were subject to Jihads <sp> , Jihads, as I understand the term permitted Muslims to capture and enslave the conquered people. It doesn't make sense to me to believe that a Jihad can be declared by Muslims against Muslims. Not withstanding the fact that Muslims fight each other, frequently and violently--but we are talking about slavery and most Somolians are Muslims.
Thanks again for a great discussion. I hope you decide to stick around
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Muslims cannot enslave anybody. What they can do is hold prisoners of war. And the only prisoners of war in Jighad are non-Muslims.

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Feb 19, 2013
 
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I dropped a bad link/ Try this one.
http://www.somalibantucommunity.org/id19.html
They were enslaved in Zanzibar. The Somalis did not enslave these people which is what I said from the beginning. The Zanzibaris enslaved them just as the Zanzibaris enslaved many of us here in the USA. Do you know who Zanzibar is? It is now part of Tanzania. So Tanzania enslaved trhe Bantus and also enslaved us here in the USA.

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Yep, I bet Somalia is important to you. I seem to remember a little something about Mogadishu. They should be thanking their lucky stars that Clinton pulled our Troops in that if thousands theirs were taken out to 19 of our finest, things would not have bode well for them. Payback's a B.
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Some people can really be this stupid?
Islam is against slavery just as Judaism is against it. Muhammad was a prophet like Moses with a mission identical to Moses'. Sio if Moses was against slavery, so was Muhammad.(Peace and Blessings be upon them both.) It would take a stupid person not to be able to see something that is so clear and so obvious. Your problem is Islamophobia is which you have this pathologiocal need to always say something bad about Islam.
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Feb 19, 2013
 
Abdurratin is not a Somali.... Somali cushitic jileec have always had bantu jareer slaves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Somal...

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from my experience it seems the more 'tribal' an immigrant group is the more likely they'll have problems with aa. imo, it's the 'us .vs. them' attitude that causes most of the problems.
I( guess that is why Uncle Toms keep messing with the Koreans: it isa because Koreans are "tribal". Same with the Mexicans: Mexicans are "tribal".

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Stag_R_lee wrote:
This is about teens. Comments deriding religion are both unsupported in fact and contrary to the long standing tradition of religious freedom. Such comments are nothing more or less than vicious attacks by adults and should definitely not be superimposed on kids.
It started as a food fight. I do not have specific evidence. But I strongly suspect the Somalis were throwing pork at the KKKristians.
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The Somali Bantu (also called Jareer, Gosha, Adoon or Mushunguli) are an ethnic minority group in Somalia who primarily reside in the southern part of the country, near the Juba and Shabelle rivers. They are descendants of people from various Bantu ethnic groups, most of whom were captured from Southeast Africa and sold into slavery in Somalia and other areas in Northeast Africa and Asia as part of the 19th century Arab slave trade. Bantus are ethnically, physically, gentically and culturally distinct from Somalis, and they have remained marginalized ever since their arrival in Somalia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Bantu

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from this book i am really alone i can bring you UNDENIABLE evidence that islam is a child of christianity. there would be no way to deny it with what i have been reading in this book called "the true origins of islam" by walter williams.
It is a sdang KKKristina telling another dang KKKristian where Islam came from. I am a Muslim and I just told you that Islam did not come from KKKristianity. Maybe Williams ought to try expalin where KKKristianity came from and leave Islam to me.
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<quoted text>but then again, no matter how strong the evidence against islam that someone provides for you, you continuely try to rewrite islams history to fit your objectives:
It so happens that I know Islamic history and you and Williams do not know ANYTHING about Islam.

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Islam isn't a race. It's a religion.
In this case, Islam and the race are exactly the same. All Somalis are Muslims.

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"Allah says:“They pay the jizyah by hand in a condition of submission.”[from Sūrah al-Tawbah: 29]
This is the verse that establishes the jizyah – a tax that is paid by non-Muslims who live as citizens in the Muslim state.
There is considerable confusion among people as to what the jizyah is all about and why only non-Muslims have to pay it. This article seeks to address the nature of the jizyah, the reasons for it, and the rationale behind it."
http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-412-3390.htm
You have to pay it because you receive free government services and protection that is paid for by Muslims. All we are saying is you must pay your fair share. Muslims also have tio pay tax. Have you ever heard of anybody living is civilized society who did not have to pay tax?

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