Ancient 200,000 year old Human Metrop...
Mr Giblets

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#24 Sep 30, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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These theories are all BS. Explain how massive monuments around the world were built without machines?? Explain how massive stone heads were carved & moved with primitive tools & without machines?? Scientists have NEVER addressed these issues. Instead of addressing all of this they decide to create their own made up theories.
yes they have , to the extent of trying to reproduce some of the processes. a lot of people plus knowledge of basic maths and the laws of levers make it all possible. The Egyptians left pictures showing how their monuments were built. This might not be on Youtube, but is available knowledge to educated people.
Mr Giblets

UK

#25 Sep 30, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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We all have our own beliefs. Deal wit it!
there are facts and beliefs. There is a difference between believing and knowing. You deal with it. Yopu are the one falling for silly cultish myths.
Ross

United States

#26 Sep 30, 2013
This is Great...Africa has much more just waiting to be discovered.
Chuck wrote:
When explorers first encountered these ruins, they assumed that they were cattle corals made by nomadic tribes, like the Bantu people, as they moved south and settled the land from around the 13th century. There was no previous historical record of any older civilization capable of building such a densly populated community. Little effort was made to investigate the site because the scope of the ruins was not fully known.
Over the past 20 years, people like Cyril Hromnik, Richard Wade, Johan Heine and a handful of others have discovered that these stone structures are not what the seem to be. In fact these are now believed to be the remains of ancient temples and astronomical observatories of lost ancient civilizations that stretch back for many thousands of years.
These circular ruins are spread over a huge area. They can only truly be appreciated from the air or through modern sattelite images. Many of them have almost completely eroded or have been covered by the movement of soil from farming and the weather. Some have survived well enough to reveal their great size [see above] with some original walls standing almost 5 feet high and over a meter wide in places.
Looking at the entire metropolis, it becomes obvious that this was a well planned community, developed by a highly evolved civilization. The number of ancient gold mines suggests the reason for the community being in this location. We find roads -- some extending a hundred miles -- that connected the community and terraced agriculture, closely resembling those found in the Inca settlements in Peru.
But one question begs for an answer -- how could this be achieved by humans 200,000 years ago?

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#27 Sep 30, 2013
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We all have our own beliefs. Deal wit it!
YOU have “beliefs”. Ideology. Teleology.

I have empirical evidence and reason. You understand neither of these.
Satan

Lewisville, TX

#28 Sep 30, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
There is no way such a complex was created 200,000 years ago. That is when Homo sapiens first evolved.
Where are they getting that date?
Are you certain of that?
Equally, who is to say "homo sapiens" made it?

As, I have always stated and always will...
Until we can fully explore 4-5 regions that are submerged now;
man's history will always be incomplete.

Homo Sapien Evolution requires two basic aspects: protein and omega-x/all. The Savannah can only supply one. Funny that Neanderthals that had access to both had far larger brains than their counterparts.

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#29 Sep 30, 2013
Satan wrote:
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Are you certain of that?
Equally, who is to say "homo sapiens" made it?
As, I have always stated and always will...
Until we can fully explore 4-5 regions that are submerged now;
man's history will always be incomplete.
Homo Sapien Evolution requires two basic aspects: protein and omega-x/all. The Savannah can only supply one. Funny that Neanderthals that had access to both had far larger brains than their counterparts.
H. sapiens already had large brains and advanced Upper Palaeolithic culture in Africa, before any mixing with neandertalensis.

Homo sapiens in Africa was not mostly a creature of the savannah. Nor were its earliest hominin progenitors, who lived in wooded lakeside environments.

The savannah hypothesis is out of favor currently.

“I support Cystic Fibrosis.”

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#30 Sep 30, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
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YOU have “beliefs”. Ideology. Teleology.
I have empirical evidence and reason. You understand neither of these.
LOL barros you finally being open about being jewish? What empirical evidence? Everybody knows by now that you fake jews ,that took over Israel in 1945, are not the real jews.

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#31 Sep 30, 2013
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LOL barros you finally being open about being jewish? What empirical evidence? Everybody knows by now that you fake jews ,that took over Israel in 1945, are not the real jews.
Everything I say is based on solid evidence and science.

I am not a Jew. I've used a French name, but I'm not French. I've used a Spanish name but I'm not Spanish or latino.

Get over it. This name is in Hebrew. So what?

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#32 Sep 30, 2013
This thread proves the first civilizations comes from Africa. Not the vinca.

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#33 Sep 30, 2013
Satan wrote:
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Are you certain of that?
Equally, who is to say "homo sapiens" made it?
As, I have always stated and always will...
Until we can fully explore 4-5 regions that are submerged now;
man's history will always be incomplete.
Homo Sapien Evolution requires two basic aspects: protein and omega-x/all. The Savannah can only supply one. Funny that Neanderthals that had access to both had far larger brains than their counterparts.
One thing is clear though. Homo sapiens thrived while your ancestors(Neanderthals) died off. Their supposed bigger brain didn't seem to help them.

Ish Tov
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#34 Sep 30, 2013
I see triplets wrote:
This thread proves the first civilizations comes from Africa. Not the vinca.
Civilization older than in Africa is already known not only from Vinca but Aratta (Jiroft site in Iran) and Mesopotamia (Sumer).

Certainly it is possible that in the future archaeology will reveal older civilization in Africa or elsewhere. Who knows?
Boondeeboojoe

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#35 Sep 30, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
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Civilization older than in Africa is already known not only from Vinca but Aratta (Jiroft site in Iran) and Mesopotamia (Sumer).
Certainly it is possible that in the future archaeology will reveal older civilization in Africa or elsewhere. Who knows?
When they discovered the oldest boat in Nigeria some "experts" theorized that the boat may have been swept to nigeria from Egypt by a flood.^_^

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#36 Sep 30, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
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Civilization older than in Africa is already known not only from Vinca but Aratta (Jiroft site in Iran) and Mesopotamia (Sumer).
Certainly it is possible that in the future archaeology will reveal older civilization in Africa or elsewhere. Who knows?
The oldest civilizations are in Africa, you fake jewish scumbag. It only makes sense since the first modern anatomical humans evolved there. Now I know that fact is hard for you to grasp. But Africa is not being studied as much as Eurasia so that is why you think the oldest civilizations are in Eurasia when clearly this thread alone proves that to be false.

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#37 Sep 30, 2013
Mr Giblets wrote:
<quoted text>yes they have , to the extent of trying to reproduce some of the processes. a lot of people plus knowledge of basic maths and the laws of levers make it all possible. The Egyptians left pictures showing how their monuments were built. This might not be on Youtube, but is available knowledge to educated people.
Massive monuments were NOT only built in Egypt, they have been built all over the world. Massive stone heads carved with so called primitive tools & moved without any machines. None of this has been explained. You did NOT even explain it nor did you show the equipments & tools used.

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#38 Sep 30, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
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YOU have “beliefs”. Ideology. Teleology.
I have empirical evidence and reason. You understand neither of these.
Evolution is & has always been a theory. The date when the earliest Civilization 1st arose is a theory unless every Continent has been completely excavated. We all have theories, deal wit it!

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#39 Sep 30, 2013
Mr Giblets wrote:
<quoted text>there are facts and beliefs. There is a difference between believing and knowing. You deal with it. Yopu are the one falling for silly cultish myths.
You have NOT presented any FACTS. So ur beliefs are silly myths. This is silly....
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#40 Sep 30, 2013
Boondeeboojoe wrote:
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When they discovered the oldest boat in Nigeria some "experts" theorized that the boat may have been swept to nigeria from Egypt by a flood.^_^
You can find wrong guesse for everything. But what does the evidence show? What do most scholars come to believe based on that evidence? If there is much evidence, then some conclusions are possible.

You are talking like a typical lying charlatan lay pseudo-academic cult pop “scholar”, not a real academic.

The oldest boat. That is interesting. I already know about that. It does not mean there was civilization. People have had boats without civilization, surely you know.

Western Europeans 6000 years ago were sailing in the Atlantic but I don't hear people calling their Megalithic culture a civilization.

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#41 Sep 30, 2013
I see triplets wrote:
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The oldest civilizations are in Africa, you fake jewish scumbag. It only makes sense since the first modern anatomical humans evolved there. Now I know that fact is hard for you to grasp. But Africa is not being studied as much as Eurasia so that is why you think the oldest civilizations are in Eurasia when clearly this thread alone proves that to be false.
Like a true pop-schlock pseudo-scholar cultist, you provide no evidence, speak only in platitudes and ideology. Fool.

Where Homo sapiens arose has nothing to do with where civilization arose 190,000 years later. Duh. You dopey dimwit.

This thread alone confirms that you're a dolt and an oaf.

Ish Tov
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#42 Sep 30, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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Evolution is & has always been a theory. The date when the earliest Civilization 1st arose is a theory unless every Continent has been completely excavated. We all have theories, deal wit it!
You're confused. Still.

Evolution is a confirmed hypothesis. There is a mountain of evidence confirming it. It is a theory, an explanatory framework for natural phenomenon, but that doesn't mean it isn't proven. You do not understand the meaning of “theory”. Theory of gravity. Yet do you doubt gravity? Cell theory. Do you doubt that nearly all life is constructed as cells?

Where civilization first appeared is simply a fact based on evidence, always with the qualifer,“according to the evidence we have available currently”. And there is no assumption that civilization arose in one place and diffused around the world for there. If it was first in SE Europe, that doesn't mean that Egyptian civilization was dependent on that of SE Europe. The evidence indicates that multiple civilizations in Africa as well as America, SE Asia, India, Mideast, Europe, etc., arose and not because of the influence of other civilizations. Not the early ones.

Get over your Afronazi cult indoctrination and think rationally.

Ish Tov
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#43 Sep 30, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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Massive monuments were NOT only built in Egypt, they have been built all over the world. Massive stone heads carved with so called primitive tools & moved without any machines. None of this has been explained. You did NOT even explain it nor did you show the equipments & tools used.
And you have no explanation for any of it based on any evidence.

And so you continue to fart in the wind.

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