Is Russia being more defiant because...

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#67 Aug 31, 2013
Zew wrote:
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Another war anywhere in the world including Somalia will be devastating for the indebted bankrupt USA.
Remember, you need billions of dollars to go to and keep the war going.
Obama should disclose the costs of invading Libya and those that the US incurred in Afghanistan during his term in office.
They can keep the war off the books, so people are even more clueless about the out of control military-industrial complex, that is bankrupting this country,
Zew

Centurion, South Africa

#68 Aug 31, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I simply am stating what the Bible says in regards to Russia.
Your bible is spot on. USA is not a super power, Russia is.
goldstone Report

Sarasota, FL

#69 Aug 31, 2013
everybody knows that OBAMA is an AIPAC stooge and zio-imperialist tool of the jdl.
Zew

Centurion, South Africa

#70 Aug 31, 2013
Ms Mack wrote:
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They can keep the war off the books, so people are even more clueless about the out of control military-industrial complex, that is bankrupting this country,
The USA created a vicious circle around the military complex and this is now blowing up in the face of USA.

If USA stops going to war, all the companies, big and small that are linked to the military industry will suffer major losses, the steel industry will suffer the most and millions of Americans will lose their jobs and maybe their pensions.

That's one of the reasons why USA is always hungry for war, they want to keep the military industry going and those taxes coming but that is not sustainable.

USA has to stop going to war and change the fundamentals of the economy which was founded on and sustained with blood of innocent people.

DickHEAD Cheney's companies that supply US military with uniforms, food, tents and other stuff will shut down if USA stops going to war.
Jimmy Jiles

Charleston, SC

#71 Aug 31, 2013
Zew wrote:
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I checked that up, and can confirm that what you're talking about is ANCIENT history which happened before what is today known as Russia became Russia. You conveniently omitted that part.
Your slimey post is no different from talking about USA before the white invasion when the conversation is about modern day USA, that is...USA during and after invasion and slavery. You can't tell me about Ancient Egypt when the thread is about modern day Egypt.
This thread is about modern day Russia, that is, Russia after the occupation by the Slavs whose descendants are the people of Russia whom we see today.
Kievan Rus was established by their eastern Slav ancestors. "The modern peoples of Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia all claim Kievan Rus' as their cultural inheritance." Did you bother to read that?
Jimmy Jiles

Charleston, SC

#72 Aug 31, 2013
Ms Mack wrote:
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They can keep the war off the books, so people are even more clueless about the out of control military-industrial complex, that is bankrupting this country,
Shooting a few missiles from ships off shore can do a lot of damage with minimal cost.
Zew

Centurion, South Africa

#73 Aug 31, 2013
Jimmy Jiles wrote:
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Kievan Rus was established by their eastern Slav ancestors. "The modern peoples of Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia all claim Kievan Rus' as their cultural inheritance." Did you bother to read that?
Waste of space.

What makes you think that Im interested in this crap? Don't try to use me to get some relevance here, are there no other posters you can reply to and open some one on one conversation with?

You're telling me what I said only adding words here and there to sound relevant and knowledgeable. Typical parrot.

Your ancient history is irrelevant to the threat and now you're using what I said to sound like you are making point when you are only singing after me.
Zew

Centurion, South Africa

#74 Aug 31, 2013
Jimmy Jiles wrote:
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Shooting a few missiles from ships off shore can do a lot of damage with minimal cost.
How is this relevant to anything more so to what shes saying?

Is this an agreement or disagreement with her point?

What sort of reply do you expect to this senseless post?

Minimal or not, USA cannot afford to waste money you do NOT have on war.

You obviously do not know that getting a ship to sea requires MONEY that USA does not have.

Shooting missiles alone requires money USA does not have.

Causing a lot of damage at minimal cost can have very seriously and prolonged costly consequences for the USA.

You evidently don't expect the other side to retaliate like Americans always do and get caught off guards when you have to face retaliation and a prolonged war.

Obama didn't expect to spend more that a week in Libya, hahaha, by the time the US left you lot were screaming and kicking because the attacks were going on for months.

Bush didn't expect Afghanistan and Iraq to last more than three months...+6 years later US troops are still in Afghanistan and those who were in Iraq aren't home, they are stationed in Kuwait, you do know that you need millions and millions of dollars to keep that base operational, right?.

Dick Cheney makes money feeding those troops. They have to be there so he and his cronies can continue to milk the unsuspecting tax payers.

You are so shortsighted its not funny.

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#75 Aug 31, 2013
Zew wrote:
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Invading Syria will speed up your trip to hell, if you want to know how the whole of USA will become sooner than later, look no further than Destroyt, an industrial wasteland.
And Russia and China will still want their trillions of dollars you owe them, which means that you Americans will have to pay that with your labour, you will be enslaved in China and Russia, some will take off to hide in rural Africa.
Forced or slave labor is something I expect in my lifetime. But I say that the government of America itself will force this labor.

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#76 Aug 31, 2013
@Zew and prison has of course stated but slave labor is surely to make its way onto mainstream society.
ashliiing

Ashley, OH

#77 Aug 31, 2013
Russian Vice-Premier Rogozin: Obama’s Mideast Policy Is Like A Monkey With A Hand Grenade The D.C. Clothesline, August 29, 2013

"Russian Vice-Premier Dmitry Rogozin compared Barack Obama’s foreign policy in the Middle East to a “monkey with a hand grenade.”

His statement was communicated via Twitter on Tuesday...

The translation via Google is:“West Life refers to the Islamic world as a monkey with a grenade” or as the Telegraph translated it,“The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade.”

Obviously Rogozin isn’t afraid of being politically incorrect, and for that I commend him. Many in our society would be totally offended at the phrase he used, but he is right on.

Though Rogozin did not elaborate on his comparison, he has previously lambasted alleged plans of “Anglo-Saxons” to attack Syrian government forces.

The Vice-Premier’s tweet comes as Russia evacuates its citizens ahead of military strikes. The Telegraph reports:

A Russian emergency situations ministry aircraft carrying aid landed in Syria on Tuesday, and is set to take Russians and other CIS citizens out of the country on its return flight.

The Ilyushin-76 jet landed at the Latakia airport with 20 tons of humanitarian aid, mostly consisting of tinned foods and sugar, a ministry spokeswoman said.

About 180 people who “have expressed a desire to leave Syria”, 100 of them Russian, are set to leave on the return flight.

Russia said it had evacuated all of its defence personnel from Syria in June, but a foreign ministry spokesman said at the time that about 30,000 other Russians were still living across the country.

“The (government’s) military effort will not stop around Damascus. If the purpose is to limit the victories of our armed forces, they will not be successful,” Walid al-Moualem, foreign minister, told a news conference in Damascus.“We have two options: either to surrender, or to defend ourselves with the means at our disposal. The second choice is the best: we will defend ourselves.”

“If the purpose of a possible (foreign) military strike is to achieve a balance of power … it’s delusional and not at all possible,” he said.

He also said that it would further the interests of al-Qaeda, something we have been pointing out for quite a while now.

“The war effort led by the United States and their allies will serve the interests of Israel and secondly Al-Nusra Front,” he said referring to the al-Qaeda-linked jihadist group in Syria.

Russia warned on Tuesday that Western military intervention in Syria would have “catastrophic consequences” for the Middle East.

Ahead of a meeting of the United Nations Security Council on Wednesday, the Russian foreign ministry has warned the United States and Britain against repeating the experience of Iraq.

“Attempts to bypass the Security Council, once again to create artificial groundless excuses for a military intervention in the region are fraught with new suffering in Syria and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa,” a foreign ministry spokesman said.

“We are calling on our American partners and all members of the world community to demonstrate prudence (and) strict observance of international law, especially the fundamental principles of the UN Charter,” said Alexander Lukashevich, a ministry spokesman.

The Obama administration, as well as Britain, France and Turkey, is considering an attack on Assad’s forces over allegations – which Russia calls unproven – that the Syrian government, locked in a fight against a domestic insurgency since 2011, used chemical weapons against civilians in rebel-controlled areas."

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#78 Aug 31, 2013
Ms Mack wrote:
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Agreed, 100 percent!
Another war, especially in the Middle East, will be such a drain. I hope Congress votes this down and he does not try to go the unilateral way, which will damage his legitimacy in my view.
Not only will it be a drain but they would also have to draft people to get enough man power.
Zew

Centurion, South Africa

#79 Aug 31, 2013
sassyntrashy wrote:
@Zew and prison has of course stated but slave labor is surely to make its way onto mainstream society.
Its starts with doing away with minimum wage.
Zew

Centurion, South Africa

#80 Aug 31, 2013
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>Forced or slave labor is something I expect in my lifetime. But I say that the government of America itself will force this labor.
This comes from an American in the 21st century.

Scary.

The must be ready to receive applications for employment from skilled and destitute Americans.

The thing you cannot continue to spill blood to keep your economy going.
Jimmy Jiles

Charleston, SC

#81 Aug 31, 2013
Zew wrote:
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Waste of space.
What makes you think that Im interested in this crap? Don't try to use me to get some relevance here, are there no other posters you can reply to and open some one on one conversation with?
You're telling me what I said only adding words here and there to sound relevant and knowledgeable. Typical parrot.
Your ancient history is irrelevant to the threat and now you're using what I said to sound like you are making point when you are only singing after me.
No, I contradicted what you said.

"This thread is about modern day Russia, that is, Russia after the occupation by the Slavs whose descendants are the people of Russia whom we see today"

You sir are a complete idiot.
Jimmy Jiles

Charleston, SC

#82 Aug 31, 2013
Zew wrote:
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How is this relevant to anything more so to what shes saying?
Is this an agreement or disagreement with her point?
What sort of reply do you expect to this senseless post?
Minimal or not, USA cannot afford to waste money you do NOT have on war.
You obviously do not know that getting a ship to sea requires MONEY that USA does not have.
Shooting missiles alone requires money USA does not have.
Causing a lot of damage at minimal cost can have very seriously and prolonged costly consequences for the USA.
You evidently don't expect the other side to retaliate like Americans always do and get caught off guards when you have to face retaliation and a prolonged war.
Obama didn't expect to spend more that a week in Libya, hahaha, by the time the US left you lot were screaming and kicking because the attacks were going on for months.
Bush didn't expect Afghanistan and Iraq to last more than three months...+6 years later US troops are still in Afghanistan and those who were in Iraq aren't home, they are stationed in Kuwait, you do know that you need millions and millions of dollars to keep that base operational, right?.
Dick Cheney makes money feeding those troops. They have to be there so he and his cronies can continue to milk the unsuspecting tax payers.
You are so shortsighted its not funny.
The point is we are not gearing up for WAR in this instance, merely a few surgical strikes that will cost us little. Duh!

The US navy has a number of ships that routinely cruise certain areas, in the Gulf, the Pacific, Atlantic, Mediterranean etc. They explode munitions for training exercises all the time. So they are not exactly moving Heaven and Earth for this. And there is clearly no will or intention on the part of Obama or our government to enter in any kind of prolonged conflict. There will be no troops. In Libya our goal was really to remove Qadaffi from power. Here this is really just a punitive measure for us to save face because Obama drew a line in the sand. Understand?

Since: Oct 09

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#83 Aug 31, 2013
I thought the talking was over but per Twitter Obama is still trying to get this darn war going.
adloe

Satellite Provider

#84 Aug 31, 2013
AMERICA ITS TIME...yep u guy climbed,bt its a downfall 4rm here..its time 4 american residents 2 vacate to the western islands nd start a fresh...ag tooo bad...puuuuuh smash!!!
monkey see monkey steal

UK

#85 Sep 1, 2013
Jimmy Jiles wrote:
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The point is we are not gearing up for WAR in this instance, merely a few surgical strikes that will cost us little. Duh!
The US navy has a number of ships that routinely cruise certain areas, in the Gulf, the Pacific, Atlantic, Mediterranean etc. They explode munitions for training exercises all the time. So they are not exactly moving Heaven and Earth for this. And there is clearly no will or intention on the part of Obama or our government to enter in any kind of prolonged conflict. There will be no troops. In Libya our goal was really to remove Qadaffi from power. Here this is really just a punitive measure for us to save face because Obama drew a line in the sand. Understand?
yes, that's what he says, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. Just like every time before. and if the UK joined in , our base is on Cyprus, and Assad has missiles that could hit Cyprus, causing civilian casualties on a people who are not onvolved at all.

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#87 Sep 1, 2013
Jimmy Jiles wrote:
I mean look at the snub with allowing Snowden asylum. And then the blatant opposition toward are intervention in Syria along with Iran and China. And now even Great Britain and Germany is turning their back on us. Do you think the leaders of these countries take us less seriously perhaps because we have a Black man at our helm? Britain has always been our staunch ally in the past. Just wondering. Putin seems pretty bold as of late.
The people of the UK are very happy not to be a super power and to not be responsible for colonies all around the world anymore. Our leaders are finally realizing this. British people have been dragged into many wars they didn't want to fight. The last war they wanted to be involved in was WW2, because it directly involved our borders.
British people do not want involvment in war or fighting that does not directly involve a threat to us or our borders. The government had no choice but to step away from conflict in Syria.
British people know that Obama is the figurehead not the real leader. You have a congress making decisions jointly, not just one man.

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