The Ancient Egyptians were black! Fin...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#1425 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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I realize you would not know this, but real evidence, scientific evidence, is found published in books and journals by peer-reviewed scholars.
Videos no.
How ironic for you to use the term “jerk-off”.
LOL AS IF YOU WEREN'T GIVEN ANY SCIENTIFIC PAPERS!

The only thing you've posted thus far I have seen was a video. Yet, you are the first in line to judge. LOL

Europeans as a people are younger than we thought, a new study suggests.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#1426 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Still nothing on the population genetics of Lower Egypt in predynastic times...
Semitic? It is doubtful that “Semitic” could be identified as long as the Neolithic. The language Mideasterners brought to the Nile Valley became Kemetic.
Y'all are so quick to point out the affiliations of Egypt with Nubia (which are true and backed by valid evidence). Why then did not Egyptians speak a Nilotic language, like the Nubians, eh?
LOL... there are so many holes in your web of denial and deceit.
Ps. more for your internet troll drooling dumbass!

Quote:
Although certain major domesticated species used in Egypt came from the Near East, it is interesting to note that the words for these in Egyptian were not borrowed from any members of the Semitic family whose common ancestor had terms for them. They are all Egyptian.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/geopedia/An...

Iranians use Arabic calligraphy. And many other examples can be given. However, the FACT IS AND REMAINS is that Afrcasan is African in origin. And Semitic is a dispersal from this...Arabic and Hebrew are relatively young languages! You stupid hog!!!

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/2604/kitch...

“The oldest evidence indicates the presence of Africans in the Red Sea coastal plain”

“Old South Arabian inscriptions and graffiti are in scripts of a South Semitic type, of which Ethiopic is the only present-day”

1)

Arabian peoples have been held to be related to a variety of groups, with homelands in almost all directions outside Arabia: the view that sought to visualize all Arabians as a single race has never been valid.

The oldest evidence indicates the presence of Africans in the Red Sea coastal plain, Iranians in the southeastern tip of the peninsula, and peoples of Aramaean stock in the north. The racial affinities of the ancient Yemeni peoples remain unsolved; the marked similarity of their culture to the Semitic cultures that arose in the Fertile Crescent to the north of the peninsula can be attributed to cultural spread rather than to immigration.

2)

a. In the north and centre the dominant linguistic form is Old North Arabian (subclassified into Lihyanic, Thamudic, and Safaitic); despite close connections between this group and Arabic, the latter cannot be regarded as lineally descended from it.

b. The Yemenite inscriptions are in Old South Arabian (subclassified into Minaean, Sabaean, Qatabanian, and Hadhramautic), which is a wholly independent group within the Semitic family of languages.(The Old North Arabian and Old South Arabian inscriptions and graffiti are in scripts of a South Semitic type, of which Ethiopic is the only present-day survivor; modern Arabic script is of a North Semitic type.)

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/315...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#1427 Jun 21, 2013
Sorry for the typos, I've rushed it, I have a busy schedule.

Hopefully I have informed many of you on the in-and-outs

Have a good day y'll, I'm out!

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#1428 Jun 21, 2013
LMAO! Still the Eurofck named Barros still has not provided sources+quotes backing up his claims. LMAO!

Man this is too easy.

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#1429 Jun 21, 2013
Maybe...I should just sit back and watch Almoravid destroy Barros...I mean he's ALREADy doing a good job. LOL!

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#1430 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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LOL!!! You're describing yourselves, you Afronazis. You are used to pushing your nonsense on uneducated people who suck it up. I'm educated and know better, fool.
You still have provided no evidence for this all-black predynastic Lower Egypt you believe in... can't back up your bull$hit, boy??? LOL!!!
Yes, I and others have repeatedly backed up our assertions with real evidence, something about which you know nothing.
And every time you cite something, it proves the case against you, boy! LOL!!!
Damn, you're dumb!
Again your sources+quotes???? Where are they? Stop side stepping mister Eurofck. EVERYBODY knows you lost this argument since you can't even post any sources+quotes backing you up.

WE ALREADY PROVED LOWER EGYPT WAS AFRICAN. Barros boy.

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#1431 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Moron, the north-south cline of variation along the Nile shows that people were different in Lower Egypt, you jackass.
And why would they be different? Due to admixture, duh.
You have nothing, boy. Post some more info and shoot yourself in the foot again.
Lower Egypt: MIXED in predynastic times.
Maghreb: predominantly EURASIAN for 30,000 years.
Olmecs: not black
Original Aryans: not black.
Go cry, boy.
LMAO @ your desperate @$$ throwing in non relevant things like the Olmecs and Aryans. You always do this when you completely lost an argument.

D*mnbo LET ME REITERATE again...Key word 'IF'. What they're basically saying that if there was a difference between Lower and Upper Egyptians IT WAS NOT DUE TO BEING ADMIXED WITH PEOPLE FROM LEVANT! You expose yet again that you have very bad reading comprehension.

Again WHERE IS YOUR SOURCES+QUOTES FOR YOUR CLAIMS???

Almoravid is already owning you on the Maghreb and we ALREADY SHOWED YOU THAT LOWER EGYPT WAS AFRICAN.

Where is your information that counters ours? Where is it Barros? Oh yeah because NO INFORMATION AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING! If so you would have been posted some.

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#1432 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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I like his use of the word “suggests”... that means, he jumps to conclusions.
You have still failed to provide evidence for the composition of the predynastic Lower Egyptian population. Jumping back to the Middle Palaeolithic... LOL!!! Nice try, but I know what those words mean... so you lose.
Still awaiting that evidence.
When already proved Lower Egypt was African pre-dynastic times a million times. YOU LOST because you as of yet can't post a single cent of evidence backing up your ridiculous outrageous claims.

All you can do is be repetitive and annoying. Bro STFU!

Desperate @$$ Eurofck.

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#1433 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Yet you Afronazi prevaricators, every time I say “Eurasian”, pretend that I said “white”.
STFU you ALWAYS correlate Eurasians with Caucasoids similar to those in Europe and the Mid-East. How did Eurasians look like 30k years ago??? Especially in Egypt???

Hmmm...What does the Nazlet Khater man have to say?
http://www.academia.edu/882847/The_Position_o...
Sinajuavi wrote:
The term “white” is as confusing and inappropriate as the word “black”.
STFU you ALWAYS use black and white in topics like this and even project those terms onto me when I NEVER USE THOSE TERMS IN TOPICS LIKE THIS. GTFO....

Again wheres your sources+quotes?
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#1434 Jun 21, 2013
Elmiboy wrote:
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You should look up Nabta playa by Robert bauval.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wQktnlypXcwXX
The youtube summary: "Robert Bauval presents evidence that an advanced black African civilization inhabited the Sahara long before Pharaonic Egypt, and reveals black Africa to be at the genesis of ancient civilization and the human story.
The mysterious Nabta Playa ceremonial area and its stone calendar circle and megaliths, and put forward the solid hypothesis that an advanced civilization of black Africans settled in the Sahara long before Pharaonic Egypt existed."
Anyways, good job Big Mike! Keep fighting for Africa.
Europeans in general are unable to deny the truth any longer with all the fact being unmasked. In fact France and Belgium made a movie featuring ancient Egypt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
As you can see the inhabitants have dark skin but they still incorporated blue eyes. It's as if they can't fully accept the truth despite the irrefutable evidence.
And obviously there were various other kingdoms in Africa to.
- kingdom of askum
-kingdom of kush
- Songhai empire
I could keep on going honestly but I'm pretty sure you get the point. Africa should be synonymous to civilization but westerners have distorted the image of Africa and we as Africans should amend it and give Africa the image it fully deserves.
Awesome post as well as the post prior to this one, the Nabta Playa shows direct relation ship with that ancient kingdom Egypt. Acniet Egyptians use to go do a yearly ritual at the oldest settlements at the Nabta Playa.

Nick A. Drakea,1, Roger M. Blenchb, Simon J. Armitagec, Charlie S. Bristowd, and Kevin H. Whitee

Edited by Ofer Bar-Yosef, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA, and approved November 22, 2010 (received for review August 23, 2010)

Ancient watercourses and biogeography of the Sahara explain the peopling of the desert

Evidence increasingly suggests that sub-Saharan Africa is at the center of human evolution and understanding routes of dispersal “out of Africa” is thus becoming increasingly important. The Sahara Desert is considered by many to be an obstacle to these dispersals and a Nile corridor route has been proposed to cross it. Here we provide evidence that the Sahara was not an effective barrier and indicate how both animals and humans populated it during past humid phases. Analysis of the zoogeography of the Sahara shows that more animals crossed via this route than used the Nile corridor. Furthermore, many of these species are aquatic. This dis- persal was possible because during the Holocene humid period the region contained a series of linked lakes, rivers, and inland deltas comprising a large interlinked waterway, channeling water and an- imals into and across the Sahara, thus facilitating these dispersals. This system was last active in the early Holocene when many spe- cies appear to have occupied the entire Sahara. However, species that require deep water did not reach northern regions because of weak hydrological connections. Human dispersals were influenced by this distribution; Nilo-Saharan speakers hunting aquatic fauna with barbed bone points occupied the southern Sahara, while peo- ple hunting Savannah fauna with the bow and arrow spread south- ward. The dating of lacustrine sediments show that the “green Sahara” also existed during the last interglacial (&#8764;125 ka) and pro- vided green corridors that could have formed dispersal routes at a likely time for the migration of modern humans out of Africa.

Here is the full paper,

http://www.pnas.org/content/108/2/458.full.pd...

In addition,

http://www.quarryscapes.no/images/Egypt_sites...

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/225/4662/64...

Elaboration

http://www.mosaicsciencemagazine.org/pdf/m13_...

Lake Turkana Archaeology: The Holocene

Lawrence H. Robbins, Michigan State University

http://www.koobifora.rutgers.edu/HTML/student...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#1436 Jun 21, 2013
Elmiboy wrote:
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You should look up Nabta playa by Robert bauval.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wQktnlypXcwXX
The youtube summary: "Robert Bauval presents evidence that an advanced black African civilization inhabited the Sahara long before Pharaonic Egypt, and reveals black Africa to be at the genesis of ancient civilization and the human story.
The oldest epigraphic and digital record of a king wearing the upper Egyptian crown has been relocated in Al-Kab archaeological site, north Aswan.

Following the relocation of the artefacts, a team from Yale University, the University of Bologna and the Provinciale Hogeschool Limburg, Belgium, has completed the first epigraphic and digital record of a site near Nag El-Hamdulab on the west bank of the Nile, north of Aswan. The site was discovered nearly half a century ago by the famous Egyptian Egyptologist Labib Habachi. Minister of State for Antiquities Zahi Hawass said this new and thorough study has brought to light a previously unknown Early Dynastic cycle of royal images and an early hieroglyphic inscription.

This work was carried out by the Aswan-Kom Ombo Archaeological Project (AKAP), which is a joint venture between Yale and University of Bologna, lead by Maria Carmela Gatto and Antonio Curci, with an international research team from various European and America countries as well as Egypt. Now in its seventh season, the project aims to survey and rescue the archaeology of the region between Aswan and Kom Ombo, in the southern part of Upper Egypt.

Gatto said that this group of images and the short inscription—carved around 3200 BCE, at the dawn of the dynastic period—record the earliest depiction of a royal Jubilee complete of all the elements known from later documents: an Egyptian ruler wearing a recognizable crown of Egypt; “the following of Horus”; and the royal court as known it is known to have been in Early Dynastic accounts such as the Palermo Stone.

She explained that the Nag El-Hamdulab scenes are unique, bridging the world of the ritual Predynastic Jubilee in which images of power—predominately boats and animals—are the chief elements, and the world of the royal pharaonic Jubilee, in which the image of the human ruler dominates events. The Nag El-Hamdulab cycle of images shows the emergence of the ruler as the supreme human priest the manifestation of both human power and the divine incarnate. The Nag El-Hamdulab cycle is the last of the old nautical Jubilee cycles of the Predyanstic Period, and the first of the pharaonic cycles over which the king presides in full regalia, here the oldest form of the White Crown. The Nag El-Hamdulab cycle is also the first such image with a hieroglyphic annotation. That text refers to a vessel of the “Following,” probably the “Following of Horus,” and may therefore be the earliest record of tax collection we have from Egypt, and the first expression of royal economic control over Egypt and most probably also Nubia.

Mohamed El-Beyali, the general director of Aswan and Nubia monuments, said that the Nag El-Hamdulab cycle of images probably dates back to about 3200 BCE, corresponding to the late Naqada period. In other words, it is from the time between King Scorpion (the owner of tomb Uj at Abydos), first king of Dynasty 0, and Narmer, first ruler of Dynasty 1.The discovery is so important that it already figures in a new documentary series from Germany (currently on air on the satellite TV channels ARTE and ZDF), which will soon be available worldwide.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/9/40/...

Although no signs of houses were found, diverse and sophisticated stone implements for hunting, fishing, and collecting and processing plants were discovered around hearths.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/wadi/hd_wadi...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#1439 Jun 21, 2013
big mike M wrote:
Maybe...I should just sit back and watch Almoravid destroy Barros...I mean he's ALREADy doing a good job. LOL!
If you want to you can toy around with that insignificant delusional character.
trollslayer

Hammond, IN

#1440 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Those are all from the period before Eurasians arrived in the Maghreb. As the article states, the Maghreb was uninhabited in between the various cultural layers described.
Likewise it was uninhabited when the Eurasians arrived.
what I want to know is why and how these so-called "eurasians" ended up in Africa. Why did they go there vs. just staying in europe. Why make a trek to Africa??? Who are their ancestors? what did these so-called "eurasians" look like? What was the purpose in migrating BACK to Africa...if they once left there.
trollslayer

Hammond, IN

#1441 Jun 21, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
Awesome post as well as the post prior to this one, the Nabta Playa shows direct relation ship with that ancient kingdom Egypt. Acniet Egyptians use to go do a yearly ritual at the oldest settlements at the Nabta Playa.
Nick A. Drakea,1, Roger M. Blenchb, Simon J. Armitagec, Charlie S. Bristowd, and Kevin H. Whitee
Edited by Ofer Bar-Yosef, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA, and approved November 22, 2010 (received for review August 23, 2010)
Ancient watercourses and biogeography of the Sahara explain the peopling of the desert
Evidence increasingly suggests that sub-Saharan Africa is at the center of human evolution and understanding routes of dispersal “out of Africa” is thus becoming increasingly important. The Sahara Desert is considered by many to be an obstacle to these dispersals and a Nile corridor route has been proposed to cross it. Here we provide evidence that the Sahara was not an effective barrier and indicate how both animals and humans populated it during past humid phases. Analysis of the zoogeography of the Sahara shows that more animals crossed via this route than used the Nile corridor. Furthermore, many of these species are aquatic. This dis- persal was possible because during the Holocene humid period the region contained a series of linked lakes, rivers, and inland deltas comprising a large interlinked waterway, channeling water and an- imals into and across the Sahara, thus facilitating these dispersals. This system was last active in the early Holocene when many spe- cies appear to have occupied the entire Sahara. However, species that require deep water did not reach northern regions because of weak hydrological connections. Human dispersals were influenced by this distribution; Nilo-Saharan speakers hunting aquatic fauna with barbed bone points occupied the southern Sahara, while peo- ple hunting Savannah fauna with the bow and arrow spread south- ward. The dating of lacustrine sediments show that the “green Sahara” also existed during the last interglacial (&#8764;125 ka) and pro- vided green corridors that could have formed dispersal routes at a likely time for the migration of modern humans out of Africa.
Here is the full paper,
http://www.pnas.org/content/108/2/458.full.pd...
In addition,
http://www.quarryscapes.no/images/Egypt_sites...
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/225/4662/64...
Elaboration
http://www.mosaicsciencemagazine.org/pdf/m13_...
Lake Turkana Archaeology: The Holocene
Lawrence H. Robbins, Michigan State University
http://www.koobifora.rutgers.edu/HTML/student...
BAM !!

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#1445 Jun 22, 2013
YET still no sources+quotes backing up your claims.:)

Good job Barros...Good job.[/Sarcasm]
Monkeymenot

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#1446 Jun 22, 2013
big mike M wrote:
YET still no sources+quotes backing up your claims.:)
Good job Barros...Good job.[/Sarcasm]
He still squirming in the caboose.

Sinajuavi
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#1448 Jun 22, 2013
big mike M wrote:
YET still no sources+quotes backing up your claims.:)
Good job Barros...Good job.[/Sarcasm]
Where is the evidence to back up your assertion that Lower Egypt was all black in predynastic times. You have nothing but your Afronazi cult belief that that MUST be the case.

That makes you a cultist, a racist, and a jackass, boy.

Stay away from academic matters which you are not qualified to discuss.

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#1449 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Where is the evidence to back up your assertion that Lower Egypt was all black in predynastic times. You have nothing but your Afronazi cult belief that that MUST be the case.
That makes you a cultist, a racist, and a jackass, boy.
Stay away from academic matters which you are not qualified to discuss.
Again stop trying to save face. Me, Almoravid and other s posted mountains and mountains of evidence backing up our claims and PROVED Lower Egypt was African pre-dynastic times. You REFUSE to acknowledge them which is why you lie and say we hadn't posted any. You have not posted a single cent of evidence. We asked you to, but you failed. All you had were your mere opinions and futile lame 'Afronazi' spamming.

Give up..You lost. No one takes you seriously.

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#1450 Jun 22, 2013
Monkeymenot wrote:
<quoted text> He still squirming in the caboose.
He refuses to admit defeat, when he clearly has lost. Which is why he only has his worthless opinions and Afronazi spamming. From his posts I see he has lost confidence. He still has not posted any sources+quotes backing up his claims. I asked him a million times to do so, but nothing but his OPINIONS.

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#1451 Jun 22, 2013
big mike M wrote:
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Again stop trying to save face. Me, Almoravid and other s posted mountains and mountains of evidence backing up our claims and PROVED Lower Egypt was African pre-dynastic times. You REFUSE to acknowledge them which is why you lie and say we hadn't posted any. You have not posted a single cent of evidence. We asked you to, but you failed. All you had were your mere opinions and futile lame 'Afronazi' spamming.
Give up..You lost. No one takes you seriously.
No, you did not prove any such thing, lying Afronazi racist cultboy.

In fact your information about the n-s cline indicates clearly that the Lower Egyptian population was different from the Upper Egyptian. How do you explain that, boy?

You have posted no evidence which supports your assertion. You have done the usual...post things which do not make your point, and often in fact contradict you, but yet you babble on that you've “won” LOL...

More evidence confirming that you are an uneducated pseudo-intellectual racist halfwit.

Got any evidence showing the nature of the population of Lower Egypt? LOL!!!

When you find DNA evidence it will prove you wrong... that is why I insist that you find the pertinent evidence and post it, boy, so you can YET AGAIN prove yourself wrong. LOL!!!

Have you so quickly forgotten how you screwed up with that Tunisian data... proving our point word for word and shooting yourself in the foot? No Africans there until 20,000 years ago, remember, boy?

You stupid goddam Afronazi dropout.

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