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#1149 Jan 4, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Lose the smartassed rhetoric, boy, because you have made no points.
The evidence PROVING what I've said in all cases is still there, and you've failed to address it, because you are an intellectual coward.
{/QUOTE]

You just don't give up do you? Stop humiliating yourself online. I already debunked your @$$.
Proto AA is African origin.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

[QUOTE who="Barros Serrano"]
Explain those 30k bp remains in the Maghreb, boy, with pure Eurasian DNA and Cro-Magnon morphology. Yeah, you have nothing to say.
Source?
Barros Serrano wrote:
Explain all the reasons I'm tired of repeating which indicate a Mideastern origin for Afroasiatic! You have nothing! And still ignore that Omotic is not Afroasiatic.
You're uneducated and a fool, boy. As a person with a real education, I quickly see through your prevaricating bullshit. You're like a middleschooler who thinks he can play basketball, but you just came up against Magic, boy.
You pathetic pseudo-intellectual racist coward. I'll beat that goddam racism out of you, boy.
Again all your words are futile.

Proto AA origins is AFRICAN!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Stop being in denial and stop weasting my time. You're out of your league here.

SIT DOWN!

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#1150 Jan 4, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Lose the smartassed rhetoric, boy, because you have made no points.
The evidence PROVING what I've said in all cases is still there, and you've failed to address it, because you are an intellectual coward.
You just don't give up do you? Stop humiliating yourself online. I already debunked your @$$.
Proto AA is African origin.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Barros Serrano wrote:
Explain those 30k bp remains in the Maghreb, boy, with pure Eurasian DNA and Cro-Magnon morphology. Yeah, you have nothing to say.
{/QUOTE]

Source?

[QUOTE who="Barros Serrano"]
Explain all the reasons I'm tired of repeating which indicate a Mideastern origin for Afroasiatic! You have nothing! And still ignore that Omotic is not Afroasiatic.
You're uneducated and a fool, boy. As a person with a real education, I quickly see through your prevaricating bullshit. You're like a middleschooler who thinks he can play basketball, but you just came up against Magic, boy.
You pathetic pseudo-intellectual racist coward. I'll beat that goddam racism out of you, boy.
Again all your words are futile.

Proto AA origins is AFRICAN!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons ...

Stop being in denial and stop weasting my time. You're out of your league here.

SIT DOWN!
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1151 Jan 4, 2013
BERBERS are predominately ''African'' in admixture and remain an indigenous African group.

Nuclear DNA

Note that Moroccans are the Berbers with the most ‘’Eurasian’’ admixture.

Moroccans = 62% African + 38% Eurasian (20% Asian + 18% European)
41.3% Northwest African
17.9% Mediterranean
16.2% Southwest Asian
14.6% West African
05.6% East African
03.6% Caucasus
00.4% South Asian
00.1% Far East
00.1% Siberian
00.1% Northern European
00.1% Southeast Asian
Source:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv...
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/African...
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1152 Jan 4, 2013
The AFRO-ASIATIC language family originated in Africa.

Branches of Afro-Asiatic language found in each continent:

Africa: Cushitic - Semitic - Chadic - Berber - Omotic - Egyptian

Asia: Semitic

Ethiopian origin for ''Afro-Asiatic language family''
__________
Quote:
''On the other hand, the finding of all major branches of the Afro-Asiatic language tree in Ethiopia, including those that are not spoken elsewhere in the world, suggests that the homeland of the Afro-Asiatic language family may have been somewhere close to southwestern Ethiopia (Ehret 1995).''
Source(''Introduction'' 3rd paragraph > 2nd sentence):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...
.
.
Linguistic Evidence supporting East African/Horn of African origin for Afro-Asiatic languages:
__________
Quote:
‘’Linguistic evidence indicates that the Afroasiatic language family originated in the Horn of Africa (S62, S70, S87), consistent with high levels of the Afroasiatic AAC in the Beja populations (although the latter observation could also be due to reverse gene flow from the Middle East).’’
Source (page: 15, title: Origins of the Fulani, Baggara Arabs, Koma, and Beja second sentence):
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/suppl/2009/...

Horn of Africa origin for Afro-Asiatic language family
__________
Quote:
‘’Proto-Afro-Asiatic is proposed to have been spoken 18,000 years ago near the Horn of Africa (eastern Africa). Three dialects emerged (Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic) from the main one and this left ?Boreafrasian,? the source of Berber, Egyptian and Semitic (Dalby ,p. 6). The speakers of ?Boreafrasian? migrated north to an arid Sahara climate, then eventually pushed on west and east. Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic are also spoken north of the Sahara so it must be assumed that the speakers of these "dialects" migrated north likewise, though perhaps separately from the ?Boreafrasian? speakers (Dalby, p.6).‘’
Source (title ‘’Origins, Migrations, and Language Contacts‘’ > 1st paragraph):
http://linguistics.byu.edu/classes/ling450ch/...
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1153 Jan 4, 2013
ANCIENT to modern day Egyptians have always been related to ANCIENT to modern day North Sudanese/Nubians. They established NILE civilizations, not Mediterranean.

NUCLEAR DNA
__________
Nubians cluster closest to Egyptians than Arab cluster to Egyptians. So Nubians are more related to Egyptians than Arabs are:
http://www.investigativegenetics.com/content/...

Ancient Egyptians & Nubians were the closest related peoples to each other. River Nile civilizations, a river that flows northwards.

Today modern North Sudanese are closest related to Egyptians which is said to correlate with historic close relations between the two who share the longest border.
__________
Quote:
''Individuals from northern Sudan clustered together with those from Egypt, and individuals from southern Sudan clustered with those from the Karamoja population (Uganda). The similarity of the Nubian and Egyptian populations suggest that migration, potentially bidirectional, occurred along the Nile river Valley, which is consistent with the historical evidence for long-term interactions between Egypt and Nubia.''
Source (Result; 5th sentence):
http://www.investigativegenetics.com/content/...

Quote:
''The patterns of population structure we found in northeast Africa, in particular the similarity of Nubian (a northern Sudanese group that speak Nilo-Saharan languages) and the Egyptian population. is consistent with the historical evidence for long-term interactions between Egypt and Nubia, probably resulting in genetic flow between the two regions.''

Stronger evidence points to the relation between Ancient Egypt & Nubia to of occurred before the establishment of those civilizations in the ''late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene'' periods. As opposed to Egyptians & Nubian civilizations conquering each other later.
__________
Quote:
''However, a synthesis of evidence from archaeology, historical linguistics, texts, distribution of haplotypes outside Egypt, and some demographic considerations lends greater support to the establishment, before the Middle Kingdom, of the observed distributions of the most prevalent haplotypes V, XI, and IV. It is suggested that the pattern of diversity for these variants in the Egyptian NILE VALLEY was largely the product of population events that occurred in the late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene through the First Dynasty, and was sustained by continuous smaller-scale bidirectional migrations/interactions. The higher frequency of V in Ethiopia than in Nubia or upper (southern) Egypt has to be taken into account in any discussion of variation in the NILE VALLEY.''
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16136533

Cradle of medicine was in Ancient Egypt and Nubia.. You know those ''Nile Valley'' civilizations not Mediterranean or Arab.
__________
Quote:
''The Cradle of the history of medicine in the Old World is to be found in Ancient Egypt and Nubia.''
Source
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...

First written clinical records came from Ancient Egypt & Nubia
__________
Quote:
''The earliest written clinical record was produced in Ancient Egypt and Nubia as two medical documents or papyri which were discovered in 1862''
Source (2nd paragraph):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...

Quote:
''Egypt and Nubia have low and similar amounts of divergence for both mtDNA types, which is consistent with historical evidence for long-term interactions between Egypt and Nubia.''
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10090902
harley davidson

Crosby, TX

#1154 Jan 4, 2013
who cares nighurs about the egyptians stop going to prison and spreading hiv you dumb boons

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#1155 Jan 4, 2013
Bigsmoke wrote:
BERBERS are predominately ''African'' in admixture and remain an indigenous African group.
Nuclear DNA
Note that Moroccans are the Berbers with the most ‘’Eurasian’’ admixture.
Moroccans = 62% African + 38% Eurasian (20% Asian + 18% European)
41.3% Northwest African
17.9% Mediterranean
16.2% Southwest Asian
14.6% West African
05.6% East African
03.6% Caucasus
00.4% South Asian
00.1% Far East
00.1% Siberian
00.1% Northern European
00.1% Southeast Asian
Source:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv...
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/African...
Hey Bigsmoke can you please give me the nuclear DNA of modern Northern Sudanese people. I would appreciate that.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1156 Jan 4, 2013
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Bigsmoke can you please give me the nuclear DNA of modern Northern Sudanese people. I would appreciate that.
I've been looking for studies on that for a while but yet to find one.

But going on my siblings results I calculated the North Sudanese side to be = 64% East African + 20% North African + 16% Southwest Asian.

Essentially:
84% African + 16% Eurasian (16% Asian + 0% European)

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#1157 Jan 4, 2013
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
I've been looking for studies on that for a while but yet to find one.
But going on my siblings results I calculated the North Sudanese side to be = 64% East African + 20% North African + 16% Southwest Asian.
Essentially:
84% African + 16% Eurasian (16% Asian + 0% European)
I see.
harley davidson

Crosby, TX

#1158 Jan 4, 2013
the ancient egyptians were white stop stealing our history you dumb boons
trollslayer

Lansing, IL

#1159 Jan 4, 2013
Bigsmoke wrote:
The AFRO-ASIATIC language family originated in Africa.
Branches of Afro-Asiatic language found in each continent:
Africa: Cushitic - Semitic - Chadic - Berber - Omotic - Egyptian
Asia: Semitic
Ethiopian origin for ''Afro-Asiatic language family''
__________
Quote:
''On the other hand, the finding of all major branches of the Afro-Asiatic language tree in Ethiopia, including those that are not spoken elsewhere in the world, suggests that the homeland of the Afro-Asiatic language family may have been somewhere close to southwestern Ethiopia (Ehret 1995).''
Source(''Introduction'' 3rd paragraph > 2nd sentence):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...
.
.
Linguistic Evidence supporting East African/Horn of African origin for Afro-Asiatic languages:
__________
Quote:
‘’Linguistic evidence indicates that the Afroasiatic language family originated in the Horn of Africa (S62, S70, S87), consistent with high levels of the Afroasiatic AAC in the Beja populations (although the latter observation could also be due to reverse gene flow from the Middle East).’’
Source (page: 15, title: Origins of the Fulani, Baggara Arabs, Koma, and Beja second sentence):
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/suppl/2009/...
Horn of Africa origin for Afro-Asiatic language family
__________
Quote:
‘’Proto-Afro-Asiatic is proposed to have been spoken 18,000 years ago near the Horn of Africa (eastern Africa). Three dialects emerged (Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic) from the main one and this left ?Boreafrasian,? the source of Berber, Egyptian and Semitic (Dalby ,p. 6). The speakers of ?Boreafrasian? migrated north to an arid Sahara climate, then eventually pushed on west and east. Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic are also spoken north of the Sahara so it must be assumed that the speakers of these "dialects" migrated north likewise, though perhaps separately from the ?Boreafrasian? speakers (Dalby, p.6).‘’
Source (title ‘’Origins, Migrations, and Language Contacts‘’ > 1st paragraph):
http://linguistics.byu.edu/classes/ling450ch/...
Bump
Dmark

Midland, TX

#1160 Jan 5, 2013
harley davidson wrote:
the ancient egyptians were white stop stealing our history you dumb boons
they where not white, anything but that im Egyptian

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#1161 Jan 5, 2013
Ancient Egyptians and Modern Egyptians mainly of African haplogroup E.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
the great dumb white man

United States

#1162 Jan 5, 2013
you sound like a stupid white piece of shyt blacks can live anywhere hot or cold you white shyt are the one who cant live anywhere in the hot you useless white bastards need air con we dont
the great dumb white man

United States

#1163 Jan 5, 2013
you stupid white bastards have no history you s came from a cave talking like monkeys to one other thats you white history piece of shyt
Kazrasa

Hammond, IN

#1165 Feb 25, 2013
No matter what u say to these people egyptians are white no matter how u slice.
they are really black but to the white man he is the top of the food chain he has done everything.
if aliens ever come and tell them that the egyptians was really black they would more then likely kill them also.... if there was a jesus and he came back HE WOULD BE KILLED TOO.
do people black people not understand u can not reason with these kind of people they made up there mind and hearts that this is h ow it is and this how it will be.
the only way to beat them is at there own game we most we claim our CULTURE AND LIVE IT LOOK AT THE DOGONS AND THE OTHER ANCEINT TRIBES OF AFRICA DO NOT REASON WITH THE WHITE MIND OR THE WHITE HEART U WILL NEVER WIN.
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bamako,mali

#1166 Feb 26, 2013
Kazrasa wrote:
No matter what u say to these people egyptians are white no matter how u slice.
they are really black but to the white man he is the top of the food chain he has done everything.
if aliens ever come and tell them that the egyptians was really black they would more then likely kill them also.... if there was a jesus and he came back HE WOULD BE KILLED TOO.
do people black people not understand u can not reason with these kind of people they made up there mind and hearts that this is h ow it is and this how it will be.
the only way to beat them is at there own game we most we claim our CULTURE AND LIVE IT LOOK AT THE DOGONS AND THE OTHER ANCEINT TRIBES OF AFRICA DO NOT REASON WITH THE WHITE MIND OR THE WHITE HEART U WILL NEVER WIN.
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Great post bro C/S.
Tmack

Addison, IL

#1168 May 20, 2013
man people are stupid today Egytians didnot come from a Eurasian and then mixed with blacks. First of all recent dna evidence links egypt to the greater lakes region. robert Baavaul links egypt to the Sudan as far as west Sudan and a little to the south near chad. Now most cases this is true and still remains fact that Egypt more than likely started off from the south weast near Chad moved to the grat lakes region also in the south and push northward into norther sudan. It is also said that these people had asiatic people with them wether slave or free born who knew but these asians were with them. I believe in the beginning egypt was 98% black with a few mixed people and asians wether slave or free no one knows. After awhile Egypt became mixed due to conquest and enslavement of other races. It behooves me to think otherwise and also if you know all the different races that were enslave in Egypt at it's peak it would also let you know how huge the egyptian empire really was. I should say kemet though for this was the original name.

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bamako,mali

#1170 Jun 1, 2013
Yup !
Mike

Greenville, NH

#1171 Jun 1, 2013
Lol @ "It behooves me to think otherwise..."

And the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptian civilization as we know it (the builders of pyramids, etc.), weren't white but they weren't sub-Saharan African either. They were a Middle Eastern people, and they still are today. The population of Egypt is consistent with the population of Egypt's past. To think it was once all "black" people and is now all Middle-Eastern people because of "white slaves" is absolutely absurd and makes no sense genetically or historically. If they were Sub-Saharan African why on Earth would they have depicted themselves as distinct from Sub Saharan Africans (Nubians)??

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