The Ancient Egyptians were black! Fin...

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#361 Dec 9, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
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lol....well those trolls don't believe all base phenotypes derive from Africa e.g. flat, narrow noses, epicanthic eye fold (Khoisan),
kinky hair, straight/curly hair, light skin, dark skin etc. They don't believe Blacks were on earth 1st and were the 1st modern humans.....smh
Africans are the oldest group, so it should be obvious that they have a variation in Phenotypes.

People think Africans like horners are mixed with middle easterners. But they should know that Middle easterners got their looks from horners. Because the oldest humans lived around the Ethiopia area and all non Africans carry an really old east African lineage...
trollslayer

Tinley Park, IL

#362 Dec 9, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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Africans are the oldest group, so it should be obvious that they have a variation in Phenotypes.
People think Africans like horners are mixed with middle easterners. But they should know that Middle easterners got their looks from horners. Because the oldest humans lived around the Ethiopia area and all non Africans carry an really old east African lineage...
sure....but the trolls tend to think it's the other way around.
Guess that's why they're trolls....lol
Barros Serrano

United States

#363 Dec 9, 2012
Truthism wrote:
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Exactly. I already know about the 'black' paintings from other dynasties, so I just thought I'd show the Eurasian ones to counter them and therefore prove it truly was a mixed society... and not just in the latter years, either. Very early on, as proven by simply one example I've given here.
Eurasian / Middle Eastern types of people *clearly* seen in the 4th dynasty Egypt, in 2600 B.C.! That's over 4600 years ago!
Now this Afrocentric, in emotional denial, is actually trying to say those traits are indigenous in "black Africans". lol!
But I say that those traits are indigenous to Middle Eastern peoples!
How 'bout that?
And north-eastern Egypt is right next to the Middle East!
*gasp*
WHAT a "coincidence", huh, people?
/facepalm
Yep. And we KNOW without doubt due to solid evidence that there were Eurasians in the Maghreb 30,000 years ago, that they were of Mideastern origin, and let's see, to get to the Maghreb from the
Mideast, how would you travel... through Lower Egypt!!! LOL!!!

Eurasians had been in Lower Egypt for 30,000 years at least.
Barros Serrano

United States

#364 Dec 9, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
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any time you refute a racist e.g. "barros meltdown", you become a
so-called "Afrocentric"
You're an Afronazi because you're a black supremacist, boy.

Ýou believe black people created civilization everywhere, you steal the history of non-black people, and you're full of crap.

You are the black version of a Nazi, plain and simple.

Afronazi. That makes you subhuman scum, boy.
Barros Serrano

United States

#365 Dec 9, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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And one of his fellow companions doesn't even understand that straight/curly hair, narrow noses and light skin are all NATIVE to Africa.
Especially the Northeast region.
But they're also traits found in Eurasians, and so, yet again, your BS has the same value as this fart:

PFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT!!!!

and you are but another disgusting lowlife racist turd.
Barros Serrano

United States

#366 Dec 9, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
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lol....well those trolls don't believe all base phenotypes derive from Africa e.g. flat, narrow noses, epicanthic eye fold (Khoisan),
kinky hair, straight/curly hair, light skin, dark skin etc. They don't believe Blacks were on earth 1st and were the 1st modern humans.....smh
Wrong again, boy, and here again your racist supremacism is in evidence, again justifying my use of the term “Afronazi” to describe your putrid sociopathic ass.

No, all “base phenotypes”, lol at the bs you spew, are not from Africa.

Find an African who looks like a Swede, a Chinese, a Papuan, a Shawnee, a Khmer, a Bengali...

You moron. EVERYTHING has to originate in Africa according to you, or be created by Africans in every other continent on the planet.

You're daft, boy. You're a racist, therefore subhuman scum.
Barros Serrano

United States

#367 Dec 9, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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Did I deny Eurasian genes in Egypt? You're the one that seems clueless. And did Romans,Greeks,Turks and Arabs not occupy Egypt? My god you're stupid.
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Again when did I deny Eurasian genes in Egyptians. And how am I being denial? That's the only you can say since you're obviously clueless about Africans and African diversity.
I posted Africans with looks of the painting you posted and you couldn't counter my point. Majority of ancient Egyptian DNA is pn2 which all Africans carry and all ancient Egyptians are tropically adapted. The closest people to ancient Egyptians are Nubians, Beja people, upper Egyptians and Horn of Africans. Non are non Africans and all four groups have similar phenotypes to the ancient Egyptians.
No one is emotional it denial. You're just clueless and can't counter my points. Kid...
You're in denial, racist scum boy, about the proven fact that Eurasian genes were in Egypt and elsewhere in northeast Africa LONG before historic times, and so your excuse that Eurasian genes are all due to Persians, etc., is just more Afronazi evasion and falderol.

Eurasian genes are all over the Maghreb, Lower Egypt, Ethiopia, etc., and in fact correlate with the appearance of Afroasiatic languages in Africa, strongly suggesting that those languages were brought in from the Mideast.

Now throw an emotional in-denial hissy fit as you always do, boy.
Barros Serrano

United States

#368 Dec 9, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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Africans are the oldest group, so it should be obvious that they have a variation in Phenotypes.
People think Africans like horners are mixed with middle easterners. But they should know that Middle easterners got their looks from horners. Because the oldest humans lived around the Ethiopia area and all non Africans carry an really old east African lineage...
What a moron! And Eurasians don't have “a variation in phenotypes”? Obviously it has nothing to do with how “old” a group is.

In any case, Africans have mutated and evolved significantly since splitting from Eurasians some 70,000 years ago, and so modern “black” people are nothing like those original common ancestors.

Mideasterners don't look like Somalis. They are different. They are Eurasian. They've evolved separately from Africans for a long time.

Yet again, you Afronazi racist pig, you attempt to steal other peoples. Even their noses are really African, according to yo, LOL!!!

Get an education, fool.

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#369 Dec 10, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
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sure....but the trolls tend to think it's the other way around.
Guess that's why they're trolls....lol
Dude all I was just trying to tell you was those looks are not alien to Africa.

Now blonde hair, pale skin, blue eyes, red hair or greens eyes are NOT native to Africa. They evolved outside of Africa...

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#370 Dec 10, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
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But they're also traits found in Eurasians, and so, yet again, your BS has the same value as this fart:
PFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT!!!!
and you are but another disgusting lowlife racist turd.
The majority of ancient Egyptians were native Africans. They came from the INTERIOR(most likely horn of Africa) and migrated north because the nile river flows from south to north.

Egyptians in upper Egypt ALREADY had multiple kingdoms/dynasty. People just say Egypt was MIXED because upper and lower Egypt united. But recent studies say most Egyptians show affrinity with neighboring African groups.

Can you refute that?

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#371 Dec 10, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
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You're in denial, racist scum boy, about the proven fact that Eurasian genes were in Egypt and elsewhere in northeast Africa LONG before historic times, and so your excuse that Eurasian genes are all due to Persians, etc., is just more Afronazi evasion and falderol.
Eurasian genes are all over the Maghreb, Lower Egypt, Ethiopia, etc., and in fact correlate with the appearance of Afroasiatic languages in Africa, strongly suggesting that those languages were brought in from the Mideast.
Now throw an emotional in-denial hissy fit as you always do, boy.
Eurasian genes were small in lower Egyptians. Most studies state Ancient Egyptians showed more affinity with neighboring Africans.

LMAO!!!! Eurasian genes in Ethiopia? You are surely euroclown.

And your claim for the Maghreb being predominately Eurasian...People who make that claim don't even KNOW the population size! So stop throwing that claim around or I'll whoopp you like I did in the other thread.

And prove Afro-Asiatic originated in the near east you Euroclown. Most studies state it originated in East Africa.

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#372 Dec 10, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
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What a moron! And Eurasians don't have “a variation in phenotypes”? Obviously it has nothing to do with how “old” a group is.
In any case, Africans have mutated and evolved significantly since splitting from Eurasians some 70,000 years ago, and so modern “black” people are nothing like those original common ancestors.
Mideasterners don't look like Somalis. They are different. They are Eurasian. They've evolved separately from Africans for a long time.
Yet again, you Afronazi racist pig, you attempt to steal other peoples. Even their noses are really African, according to yo, LOL!!!
Get an education, fool.
OMG why am I replying to this post...I NEVER said modern day Africans were the SAME as the early Africans you dumbfck...Read!

I said East Africans like horners carry the oldest DNA you goof.

And I.SAID people shouldn't claim Horners or other Northeast Africans are mixed thought back migration, when they AlREADY had those FEATURES! Like straight nose....

Nobody said said Arabians have the SAME look as horners. My god READ...

And Africans have more physical variations than Europeans and Asians. That's a fact and many people say so. Since Africans are a old group...
http://infobeautiful2.s3.amazonaws.com/true_s...

Please get an education.
Barros Serrano

United States

#373 Dec 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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The majority of ancient Egyptians were native Africans. They came from the INTERIOR(most likely horn of Africa) and migrated north because the nile river flows from south to north.
Egyptians in upper Egypt ALREADY had multiple kingdoms/dynasty. People just say Egypt was MIXED because upper and lower Egypt united. But recent studies say most Egyptians show affrinity with neighboring African groups.
Can you refute that?
Why would I refute it; it is essentially true.

You say “most” were black, ok. I don't know the exact percentage, but close enough.

Yes, it was Lower Egypt with the Eurasians, there were few in Upper Egypt as I understand the genetic and morphological results, until the kingdoms unified.

I've been saying all along the most of modern Egyptian ancestry is from ancient Egypt, not Arabs or Greeks or whoever conquered them from outside.

And most people apparently don't grasp that there are plenty of black people in Egypt today. I mean, didn't Anwar Sadat look “black”? In the USA he'd be black. Likewise Mubarak.
Barros Serrano

United States

#374 Dec 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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OMG why am I replying to this post...I NEVER said modern day Africans were the SAME as the early Africans you dumbfck...Read!
I said East Africans like horners carry the oldest DNA you goof.
And I.SAID people shouldn't claim Horners or other Northeast Africans are mixed thought back migration, when they AlREADY had those FEATURES! Like straight nose....
Nobody said said Arabians have the SAME look as horners. My god READ...
And Africans have more physical variations than Europeans and Asians. That's a fact and many people say so. Since Africans are a old group...
http://infobeautiful2.s3.amazonaws.com/true_s...
Please get an education.
The oldest DNA would be that of the Khoisan, wouldn't it? Rather than northeast Africans?

Horners ARE mixed through back migration, that's a fact, but even a pure L3 African one YES has a narrow nose, wavy hair, etc. Those features are not because of “Caucasian” admixture necessarily.

Don't condescend to me, asswipe. I never contradicted these things, but you're claiming the original Arabians were Africans, and unless you mean just after they left in the OOA migration, then you're wrong. They were J1 Eurasians BEFORE the Africans migrated in. In southern Arabia black admixture is 20% or more, as I understand it, because of those migrations.

As for who has more diversity... it depends on how you define diversity, but altogether Eurasians have more diverse phenotypes, I mean look at Inuit, Australians, Chinese, Swedes, Tamil, Arabs...

Overall genetic diversity is greater in Africa, however.
Barros Serrano

United States

#375 Dec 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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Eurasian genes were small in lower Egyptians. Most studies state Ancient Egyptians showed more affinity with neighboring Africans.
LMAO!!!! Eurasian genes in Ethiopia? You are surely euroclown.
And your claim for the Maghreb being predominately Eurasian...People who make that claim don't even KNOW the population size! So stop throwing that claim around or I'll whoopp you like I did in the other thread.
And prove Afro-Asiatic originated in the near east you Euroclown. Most studies state it originated in East Africa.
Lower Egypt was mixed. I don't know what % of whom, but it had significant numbers of Eurasians. This was true for 30,000 years, obviously, since the original Maghrebians had to get from the Mideast to the Maghreb via Lower Egypt. This should be obvious to everyone.

It varied over time. Obviously a migration down the Nile brought the Natufians to Lower Egypt and the Levant, and they were black originally, obviously. They show up as mixed, however, as they developed the grain-gathering Natufian culture of Lower Egypt-Levant.

You ain't whooped nobody except Bozinho in here, get a grip on reality.

Afroasiatic... did I not say that nothing is PROVEN, simply that the evidence now known makes it more likely it was Mideastern. Linguists are not in agreement on this, and I am not about to make a pronouncement either as we do not have sufficient evidence to decide it definitively.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#376 Dec 10, 2012
Truthism wrote:
How can Afrocentrics constantly deny ancient Egypt was mixed?
Look at this Egyptian couple (Rahotep and Nofret) of the 4th dynasty, from around 2600 B.C.: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2198/2156696748...
The male is tan (medium brown) while the female is very light in color. Males were outdoors much more than females, this is my guess as to why there's such a big color difference for certain groups of them.
We see similar in ancient Minoan / Greek art.
Ancient Egypt was mixed; just accept the truth.
This is a funny thread, and of course the same ignorance by Muktabas who haven't been to Egypt.

Same loaction, same people, only thousands of years later.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_d-BGs6dd7K8/TKl9qQK...

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/livingproofpro...

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/livingproofpro...

Poppin' euro bubbles.

P.s. ancient Egyptians were tropical adapted in limb portions, Eurasians were and are cold adapted in limb portions. We're they have lived from since the ice age.

The place that became mixed later on is the Northern part, especially places like the Delta region.

The South and Middle Egypt stable. For some minor admixture, during recent time.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#377 Dec 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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And no where in my post I said "Black Africans" I said NATIVE Africans.
But anyways here is a NATIVE African Nubian with straight/curly hair.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5207/5310340467...
A girl is NOT cold adapted like Middle easterners or Europeans.
You are right, man I don't understand the ignorance and stupidity of these individuals here.

Nubians, Southern Egyptians are endogamous, and basically xenophobic. They do not mix with foreign people. Not even harshly with surrounding populations.

And lastly there are indigenous groups with curly to straight hair. Simple because the climate is suited for it. So yes, you're right.

The length these racist will go is beyond crazy.

Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#378 Dec 10, 2012
Typo ^We're = where
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#379 Dec 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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Yes you are a Eurocentric. A bigger one than Barros.
The Nubians are more related to other Africans than any Eurasian. The Nubians were black Africans..Most Africans are closely related to each other than they are to outside groups.
Pharoah Taharqa looks like an "Bantu Negro."
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo4xnhuI741...
Prove Nubia was NOT an Black African civilization. And yes you are an idiot.
It's funny to read this ignorance by these individuals. Egypt was represented by all kinds of Africans.

There are so many "Bantu" type of facial sculptures, in cluding Kings and Queens. The eyes of these stupid Muktabas here, will pop out. These individuals haven't to Egypt, to see the ancient art for themselves. They only scrap a few pics from the Internet. And think that this represents the ancient art. However the major component in art is typically that of Nubians/ Baja type of Africans. Which is indigenous to that region.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ADZN_AIhns8/TQWhlzg...

http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/metropolitan/i...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#380 Dec 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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I doubt Aryan people were a part of Dravidian civilizations. Dravidian's had civilization in India before the arrival of the Indo-Aryans. And what do you mean in middle eastern origin? I'm pretty sure Dravidian's are of Australoid origin.
I'm part Tamil Indian Trinidadian descent and I believe Tamils are a related group to Dravidians. And Archaeologist evidence suggests that the microlithic period of Tamils lasted between 6000–3000 BCE.
Austro-Asiatic groups were in India before Indo-Aryan people.
R1b-M412 appears to be the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe (70%), while being virtually absent in the Near East, the Caucasus and West Asia.

--Myres NM et al.

http://reformistani.files.wordpress.com/2010/...

Migrations into India “did occur, but rarely from western Eurasian populations.” There are low frequencies of the western Eurasian mtDNA types in both southern and northern India. Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.-- U.S. biological anthropologist Todd R. Disotell.

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