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Boondeeboojoe

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Boondeeboojoe wrote:
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Idiot, it does not say that. It simply says somewhere in east Africa which ofcourse includes ethiopia. The only thing they found in Ethiopian of significance is Eva, the mother of all MtDna. It does not mean Eva was the only living female of her kind. Eve types were living all over east and southern Africa.
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"Computer analysis produced many possible family trees by which the present-day [mtDNA] sequences could be derived ultimately from a single ancestral sequence. Because of the maternal inheritance of mtDNA, this work was interpreted as showing that all present mtDNA is derived from a single ancestral mtDNA belonging to a woman who lived in Africa some 200,000 years ago. She was nicknamed "Mitochondrial Eve", the mother of us all…Some of the implications from these data are more dramatic than is justified. One woman living 200,000 years ago was not the mother of us all. She may well have existed, but was only one member of a population living then."
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Ancient Egypt was pre-dominantly a black nation. Yes it did have rulers of other ethnic backgrounds such as the Hyksos, which was an asiatic group of people that invaded Egypt and began their rule in the 13th dynasty before they were finally driven out by the black pharaoh Kamose in the 17th century. Were their any white Egyptians? No. well not what society today views as white but there was light skinned people in Egypt which began with the Hyksos but they were far from what we consider white they were asiatic...coming from somewhere in the middle east. The only thing ancient Egyptians saw close to resembling a "white person" were the Greeks. There are many accounts of Greek and roman historians describing the blackness of Egyptians such as Aristotle when he stated, "those who are too black are cowards, for instance the Egyptians and Ethiopians..even Herodotus described Egyptians as dark skinned with wooly hair...the roman ammianus Marcellinus stated, "the men of Egypt are mostly brown and black with a desiccated look." Anyone who is foolish enough to say, such as zahi hawass, that the ancient Egyptians only painted describes brown and black to represent the soil are complete morons. People didnt have cameras back then so they painted its no different..nobody cares about the color of the damn soil the fertility is the only thing that matters

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Semantics. You get the point I was making. If you got nothing to say just shut up. This ain't no grammar class, boy!^_^
You dullwitted dropout.

It's not semantics. It's scientific fact. You have to give dates.“Ancient” doesn't tell us what you're talking about.

What you're revealing with this is just how uneducated you are, how inferior to me intellectually, how dumbed-down, what a dunce, a dullard, a dolt you really are.

Do you even remember what you're babbling about now?

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Boondeeboojoe wrote:
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Idiot, it does not say that. It simply says somewhere in east Africa which ofcourse includes ethiopia. The only thing they found in Ethiopian of significance is Eva, the mother of all MtDna. It does not mean Eva was the only living female of her kind. Eve types were living all over east and southern Africa.
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http://www.tombouctou.net/images/east-africa-...
Moron. You are ignorant of the archaeological data, obviously, as you are ignorant of most things.

The oldest Homo sapiens remains were found in Ethiopia, dating 200,000 yrs ago. Google “idaltu”, oh drooling oafish one.
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Jul 25, 2013
 
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You dullwitted dropout.
It's not semantics. It's scientific fact. You have to give dates.“Ancient” doesn't tell us what you're talking about.
What you're revealing with this is just how uneducated you are, how inferior to me intellectually, how dumbed-down, what a dunce, a dullard, a dolt you really are.
Do you even remember what you're babbling about now?
You are idiot focussing on non issue. LOL!
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Sinajuavi wrote:
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Moron. You are ignorant of the archaeological data, obviously, as you are ignorant of most things.
The oldest Homo sapiens remains were found in Ethiopia, dating 200,000 yrs ago. Google “idaltu”, oh drooling oafish one.
The oldest they have found so far, stupid. It does not mean that members of his kind were not in other parts of africa especially neighbouring region to the south. Common sense. Ethiopia is not in europe. LOL!
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Sinajuavi wrote:
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You dullwitted dropout.
It's not semantics. It's scientific fact. You have to give dates.“Ancient” doesn't tell us what you're talking about.
What you're revealing with this is just how uneducated you are, how inferior to me intellectually, how dumbed-down, what a dunce, a dullard, a dolt you really are.
Do you even remember what you're babbling about now?
Btw are you hurting or something.^_^

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Who tells you the original north east african (E-m78 )were caucasian? Got source? By far Masalit and Fur possess the highest frequency of E-m78. They are a pure black race. They are most likely the "epicenter" of E-m78.
The original 'E-M78', of ~18kya, were NOT Caucasian but the offspring that has experienced total Eurasian interbreeding and genetic drift,

in a much lighter sun exposure zone than that of sub-Saharan Africa, for ~18k years,

and did NOT move back down to mate with Sub-Saharan Africans,

are impossible to distinguish from Caucasians because, in effect, they too have become Caucasian, and these genetic lines are not exactly what today's Ethiopians are.

First of all, I am no racist and it must be understood that the troll-fool that 'calls' himself "trollslayer" doesn't know his áss from a hole in the ground.

Second, the first and earliest H.Sapiens People who also coinsidentally existed in what is known today as Ethiopia,~190kya, are NOT at all the same People that are known today as "Ethiopians".

The earliest H.Sapiens were of the 'A'Y-Hg and certainly not from the 'E-M78'Y-Hg.

Also, therefore, there is no reason to believe that they had to resemble today's Ethiopians.

There is no reason even to believe that H.Sapiens of ~190kya necessarily had kinki hair, either.

All you have is unsubstantiated supposition, for which there is strong reason to believe just the opposite.

You 'say' that the only Peoples in existence today are all purely descended strictly from sub-Saharan African DNA but that supposition has been proven to be untrue for most Eurasians and also any Africans who may have mixed with those particular Eurasians.

Have you not ever heard of H.Neanderthal and/or H.Denisovan?

What you may also refuse to accept is the scientifically proven fact that the Western/Central sub-Saharan African differs from the Eastern sub-Saharan African in that the Western/Central sub-Saharan African has been discovered also to be a genetic mixture H.Sapiens and some Genus Homo(not Neanderthal or Denisovan) other than H.Sapiens.

The Speculation is that that other "Genus Homo" might well be that of H.Heidelbergensis since it is known that it cannot be that of any H.Neanderthal or H.Denisoven, and we may never know for sure which other it could be since the is no genetic material that can be found for H.Heidelbergensis that is viable for DNA testing, certainly not enough for which we could ever hope to decode an entire genome like has been done for H.Neanderthalensis.

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Btw are you hurting or something.^_^
How old are you?

You 'sound' to be puerile and prepubescent.

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The oldest they have found so far, stupid. It does not mean that members of his kind were not in other parts of africa especially neighbouring region to the south. Common sense. Ethiopia is not in europe. LOL!
You're babbling again. What are you arguing about, anyway? Nobody can tell.

Ethiopia is not in Europe. Wow, you sure are smart.
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How old are you?
You 'sound' to be puerile and prepubescent.
Tell barros that. Throwing insult arround like a kid.
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You're babbling again. What are you arguing about, anyway? Nobody can tell.
Ethiopia is not in Europe. Wow, you sure are smart.
You can not see sarcasm even when it hits ya in the face, can ya?^_^ Ethiopia is in East africa and it is in East africa where hominids like bipedal hominids took to walking, leaving footprints in volcanic ash in Tanzania. Ethiopia in the realm of East Africa.
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Curious Me wrote:
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The original 'E-M78', of ~18kya, were NOT Caucasian but the offspring that has experienced total Eurasian interbreeding and genetic drift,
in a much lighter sun exposure zone than that of sub-Saharan Africa, for ~18k years,
and did NOT move back down to mate with Sub-Saharan Africans,
are impossible to distinguish from Caucasians because, in effect, they too have become Caucasian, and these genetic lines are not exactly what today's Ethiopians are.
First of all, I am no racist and it must be understood that the troll-fool that 'calls' himself "trollslayer" doesn't know his áss from a hole in the ground.
Second, the first and earliest H.Sapiens People who also coinsidentally existed in what is known today as Ethiopia,~190kya, are NOT at all the same People that are known today as "Ethiopians".
The earliest H.Sapiens were of the 'A'Y-Hg and certainly not from the 'E-M78'Y-Hg.
Also, therefore, there is no reason to believe that they had to resemble today's Ethiopians.
There is no reason even to believe that H.Sapiens of ~190kya necessarily had kinki hair, either.
All you have is unsubstantiated supposition, for which there is strong reason to believe just the opposite.
You 'say' that the only Peoples in existence today are all purely descended strictly from sub-Saharan African DNA but that supposition has been proven to be untrue for most Eurasians and also any Africans who may have mixed with those particular Eurasians.
Have you not ever heard of H.Neanderthal and/or H.Denisovan?
What you may also refuse to accept is the scientifically proven fact that the Western/Central sub-Saharan African differs from the Eastern sub-Saharan African in that the Western/Central sub-Saharan African has been discovered also to be a genetic mixture H.Sapiens and some Genus Homo(not Neanderthal or Denisovan) other than H.Sapiens.
The Speculation is that that other "Genus Homo" might well be that of H.Heidelbergensis since it is known that it cannot be that of any H.Neanderthal or H.Denisoven, and we may never know for sure which other it could be since the is no genetic material that can be found for H.Heidelbergensis that is viable for DNA testing, certainly not enough for which we could ever hope to decode an entire genome like has been done for H.Neanderthalensis.
I agree with you on a number of points. But I disagree with you assertion, at least that is what barros in implying, that East africans moved to west africa and mixed Heidelbergensis and out came west africans. LOL! East africans/HOA as we see them to today are not the east africans of yesterday. East Africans, at the time E1b1a split from E1b1b, were nilotic types. They later mixed with back migrating euroasia and gave rise to mixed race people we see inthe Horn of Africa to day.. Because people who look like HOA are not found in the interior of africa and only in the proximity the euroasia, they should not be looked at as the original east africans. Infact they should be disregarded when talking about homo sapiens coming of age in east africa. There is presence of neanderthal admixture in east africa.
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Truth set you free wrote:
Ancient Egypt was pre-dominantly a black nation. Yes it did have rulers of other ethnic backgrounds such as the Hyksos, which was an asiatic group of people that invaded Egypt and began their rule in the 13th dynasty before they were finally driven out by the black pharaoh Kamose in the 17th century. Were their any white Egyptians? No. well not what society today views as white but there was light skinned people in Egypt which began with the Hyksos but they were far from what we consider white they were asiatic...coming from somewhere in the middle east. The only thing ancient Egyptians saw close to resembling a "white person" were the Greeks. There are many accounts of Greek and roman historians describing the blackness of Egyptians such as Aristotle when he stated, "those who are too black are cowards, for instance the Egyptians and Ethiopians..even Herodotus described Egyptians as dark skinned with wooly hair...the roman ammianus Marcellinus stated, "the men of Egypt are mostly brown and black with a desiccated look." Anyone who is foolish enough to say, such as zahi hawass, that the ancient Egyptians only painted describes brown and black to represent the soil are complete morons. People didnt have cameras back then so they painted its no different..nobody cares about the color of the damn soil the fertility is the only thing that matters
Ancient Egypt was between two light skin EURASIAN NATIONS, the Middle East and Libya! The chances of the ancient Egyptians being a black society is absolutely nil! Wall paintings of the ancient Egyptians show they were a mixed race people with a minority of black and white Egyptians! Looking at ancient Egyptian skulls with their hair still attached, shows that there were definitely Eurasian people in ancient Egypt and probably Eurasian Pharaohs as well! All this without even bothering with DNA! Im not talking before the Egyptians were conquered by the Hyksos!
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I mean Im talking about before the Egyptians were conquered by the Hyksos!
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What you may also refuse to accept is the scientifically proven fact that the Western/Central sub-Saharan African differs from the Eastern sub-Saharan African in that the Western/Central sub-Saharan African has been discovered also to be a genetic mixture H.Sapiens and some Genus Homo(not Neanderthal or Denisovan) other than H.Sapiens.
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You have heard of natufians having sub saharan affinities, right? Which SSA african group do you think they are referring to? It is west African types,(including nilo-saharans)! East Africans today are classified as caucasians morphologically. I believe sub saharan Africans in Natufian took E-E-M78 out side Africa.
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Afican Americans of bantu origin ( southwest African) claiming Ancient Egyptians of Afro-asiac origin (Northeast African) is like a scottish man claiming ancient greece loool just because you share the same skintone or continent does not mean you can share their accomplishments , let us Northeast africans defend our culture , we're sick of whites and west africans claiming us get your own history and culture , STOP STEALING OURS !.
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Northeast wrote:
Afican Americans of bantu origin ( southwest African) claiming Ancient Egyptians of Afro-asiac origin (Northeast African) is like a scottish man claiming ancient greece loool just because you share the same skintone or continent does not mean you can share their accomplishments , let us Northeast africans defend our culture , we're sick of whites and west africans claiming us get your own history and culture , STOP STEALING OURS !.
According to a genetic study in December 2012, Ramesses III belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1a, mainly found in sub-saharan Africa[26] most AA male belong E1b1a.^_^

Menes;
Unified Upper and Lower Egypt. Could pass for an AA.

http://www.endingstereotypes.org/image010.jpg
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Your info confirms what I said. Homo sapiens arose in the area of Ethiopia, about 200,000 years ago.
"The study also places the zone of human origin in an area ranging from southern to eastern Africa, with some minor boundary variations depending on whether we are considering the genetic or the phenotypic evidence..."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/12/1221...
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Boondeeboojoe wrote:
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You have heard of natufians having sub saharan affinities, right? Which SSA african group do you think they are referring to? It is west African types,(including nilo-saharans)! East Africans today are classified as caucasians morphologically. I believe sub saharan Africans in Natufian took E-E-M78 out side Africa.
Yes the Natufians probably took E-M78 to the Levant but were interbred out by incoming Eurasians!

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