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Sinajuavi
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#3215 Jul 18, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Cry now:
www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/view
Skull of ancient North African RECREATED BY FORENSIC EXPERTS!
That is dated at 35,000 bp. If correct, that pushes back the date for Eurasians of Mideast origin and Cro-Magnon type in northern Africa by 5000 years, relative to the 30,000 yr evidence from Morocco.

Even without a reconstruction, I'm aware that the DNA of Mechta-Afalou was predominantly Eurasian, though with some African admixture.

Sinajuavi
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#3216 Jul 18, 2013
What is that sound?

very faint, in the distance...

boooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooo

Oh it's the Afronazis pondering Mechta-Afalou.

“DANGER!!”

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#3218 Jul 18, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
"Sub-Saharan African" is a racist term that separates and assumes that there was always a "black" and a "white" Africa. That's a colonial, western lie. All of Africa was once non-white. There is no such the thing as "indigenous non-blacks" in Africa.
Where is your proof for that, you self deluded mørøn?

“DANGER!!”

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#3219 Jul 18, 2013
Ramesses wrote:
There's no such thing as a Eurasian indigenous to Africa.
There was absolutely no Eurasian DNA in North Africa 30,000 years ago.
Why do these Eurocentric idiots insist on claiming indigenous Africans. Be happy with your ancestors the sub-human Neanderthal.
Where is the proof for that, you ignorant shit?

You should call yourself

"RAM-FECES",

instead,

'cause your just full of shít.
trollslayer

Blue Island, IL

#3220 Jul 18, 2013
Ramesses wrote:
There's no such thing as a Eurasian indigenous to Africa.
There was absolutely no Eurasian DNA in North Africa 30,000 years ago.
Why do these Eurocentric idiots insist on claiming indigenous Africans. Be happy with your ancestors the sub-human Neanderthal.
Ramesses wrote:
Why do these Eurocentric idiots insist on claiming indigenous Africans.
because they want to say that it was "white Africans"( I can't believe...I'm using this term ...LOL)..."white Africans" brought civilization to Spain and the rest of Europe. Also they want to say "whites" were responsible for all the great things Kemet produced.

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

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#3221 Jul 18, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
because they want to say that it was "white Africans"( I can't believe...I'm using this term ...LOL)..."white Africans" brought civilization to Spain and the rest of Europe. Also they want to say "whites" were responsible for all the great things Kemet produced.
More lying prevarication.

Who brought civilization to Spain and the rest of Europe? LOL!!! The only real answer to that is Vinca. Spain was civilized when the first Moorish Berber parasite landed, you fool.

And who is using the term “white”? Only you, racist Afronazi liar. The population of the Maghreb has a base in Eurasians who arrived 30,000 years ago, and again in several subsequent waves of migration.

Yes, the Mahgreb has been a Eurasian cultural region for 30,000 years.

And where is that evidence for the population of predynastic Lower Egypt, lying Afronazi?

Obviously you're an intellectual coward.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#3222 Jul 18, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Cry now:
www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/view
Skull of ancient North African RECREATED BY FORENSIC EXPERTS!
You are and your euronuty friends are delusional, the cosmetics are purely based on speculations.

Without the speculation and imposed cosmetics, this is what you'll see:

http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/481367/530w...

http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/481367/enla...

In simple language, for the common man:

Definition of AFALOU MAN

: one of an Upper Paleolithic people of northern Africa closely related to Cro-Magnon man but having a broader nose, a sloping forehead, and heavy brow ridges

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/afa...

Thus, modern science tells us:

Quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb:

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
(2008)

Quote:
*Frequently termed Mechta-Afalou or Mechtoid, these were a skeletally robust people and definitely African in origin, though attempts, such as those of Ferembach (1985), to establish similarities with much older and rarer Aterian skeletal remains are tenuous given the immense temporal separation between the two (Close and Wendorf 1990). At the opposite end of the chronological spectrum, dental morphology does suggest connections with later Africans, including those responsible for the Capsian Industry (Irish 2000) and early mid-Holocene human remains from the western half of the Sahara (Dutour 1989), something that points to the Maghreb as one of the regions from which people recolonised the desert (MacDonald 1998).
--Lawrence Barham
The First Africans: African Archaeology from the Earliest Toolmakers to Most Recent Foragers (Cambridge World Archaeology)(2008)

http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects...

What is also delusional about you is you imaginary African daddy.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#3223 Jul 18, 2013
trollslayer

Blue Island, IL

#3224 Jul 18, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
More lying prevarication.
Who brought civilization to Spain and the rest of Europe? LOL!!! The only real answer to that is Vinca. Spain was civilized when the first Moorish Berber parasite landed, you fool.
no mike and i say debunked, euronazi, aa forum troll. Where are ur links.
trollslayer

Blue Island, IL

#3225 Jul 18, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
You are and your euronuty friends are delusional, the cosmetics are purely based on speculations.
Without the speculation and imposed cosmetics, this is what you'll see:
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/481367/530w...
http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/481367/enla...
In simple language, for the common man:
Definition of AFALOU MAN
: one of an Upper Paleolithic people of northern Africa closely related to Cro-Magnon man but having a broader nose, a sloping forehead, and heavy brow ridges
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/afa...
Thus, modern science tells us:
Quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb:
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
(2008)
Quote:
*Frequently termed Mechta-Afalou or Mechtoid, these were a skeletally robust people and definitely African in origin, though attempts, such as those of Ferembach (1985), to establish similarities with much older and rarer Aterian skeletal remains are tenuous given the immense temporal separation between the two (Close and Wendorf 1990). At the opposite end of the chronological spectrum, dental morphology does suggest connections with later Africans, including those responsible for the Capsian Industry (Irish 2000) and early mid-Holocene human remains from the western half of the Sahara (Dutour 1989), something that points to the Maghreb as one of the regions from which people recolonised the desert (MacDonald 1998).
--Lawrence Barham
The First Africans: African Archaeology from the Earliest Toolmakers to Most Recent Foragers (Cambridge World Archaeology)(2008)
http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects...
What is also delusional about you is you imaginary African daddy.
bump
trollslayer

Blue Island, IL

#3226 Jul 18, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
because they want to say that it was "white Africans"( I can't believe...I'm using this term ...LOL)..."white Africans" brought civilization to Spain and the rest of Europe. Also they want to say "whites" were responsible for all the great things Kemet produced.
lol, what did I tell ya, just like clockwork
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#3228 Jul 19, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
bump
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/481367/530w...

A modern Algerian who comes close, to the Paleolithic cranium bust:

http://www.i-voyages.net/galerie/img/saghro01...

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...

Again:

http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/481367/530w...

Mozabite Tamazight comparison:

http://oi43.tinypic.com/2a83m86.jpg

http://oi44.tinypic.com/9bhrsy.jpg

Other Northwest Africans:

http://tinyurl.com/8ru23fw

http://tinyurl.com/9849t8z

http://tinyurl.com/nju9nw8

Lets look at some other ("sub Sahara"/ "Bantu") Africans and there facial affinities:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2571/3814822662...

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3526/512li...

http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonatwar/2009/0...

http://tinyurl.com/oe2f5mu

http://oi42.tinypic.com/2yp0sj7.jpg

Facial diversity:

http://tinyurl.com/owhwa2r

http://tinyurl.com/qanzh99

Quote:
Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra- Saharan Africa
[...]
The results show that the most ancient haplogroup is L3*, which would have been introduced to North Africa from eastern sub-Saharan populations around 20,000 years ago
--Frigi et al.(2010)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tNSFOhb_cGM/TxiojlP...

As I said before, that reconstruction is based on the ideology of imaginary cosmetics. The bare construction gives this away.LOL
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#3229 Jul 19, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
You are and your euronuty friends are delusional, the cosmetics are purely based on speculations.
Without the speculation and imposed cosmetics, this is what you'll see:
http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/481367/530w...
http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/481367/enla...
In simple language, for the common man:
Definition of AFALOU MAN
: one of an Upper Paleolithic people of northern Africa closely related to Cro-Magnon man but having a broader nose, a sloping forehead, and heavy brow ridges
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/afa...
Thus, modern science tells us:
Quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb:
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
(2008)
Quote:
*Frequently termed Mechta-Afalou or Mechtoid, these were a skeletally robust people and definitely African in origin, though attempts, such as those of Ferembach (1985), to establish similarities with much older and rarer Aterian skeletal remains are tenuous given the immense temporal separation between the two (Close and Wendorf 1990). At the opposite end of the chronological spectrum, dental morphology does suggest connections with later Africans, including those responsible for the Capsian Industry (Irish 2000) and early mid-Holocene human remains from the western half of the Sahara (Dutour 1989), something that points to the Maghreb as one of the regions from which people recolonised the desert (MacDonald 1998).
--Lawrence Barham
The First Africans: African Archaeology from the Earliest Toolmakers to Most Recent Foragers (Cambridge World Archaeology)(2008)
http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects...
What is also delusional about you is you imaginary African daddy.
That is a Cro-Magnon man who would have looked exactly like his European cousins 35000 years ago! So yes the scientists have got the recreation absolutely right! This is the very very latest scientific findings!
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#3230 Jul 19, 2013
^Typo: there = their.
Bmt wrote:
The Fulani and Tuareg have a relation of kinship. This relationship is very old.



http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/tuareg/phot...

Thus gives is this:

Quote:
Trans-Saharan craniometry. Principal components analysis of craniometric variables closely allies the early Holocene occupants at Gobero, who were buried with Kiffian material culture, with Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene humans from the Maghreb and southern Sahara referred to as Iberomaurusians, Capsians and “Mechtoids.”Outliers to this cluster of populations include an older Aterian sample and the mid-Holocene occupants at Gobero associated with Tenerean material culture.

Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...

Figure 6. Principal components analysis of craniofacial dimensions among Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene populations from the Maghreb and southern Sahara.

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...

Table 3. Nine human populations sampled for craniometric analysis ranging in age from the Late Pleistocene (ca. 80,000 BP, Aterian) to the mid-Holocene (ca. 4000 BP) and in geographic distribution across the Maghreb to the southern Sahara [18],[19],[26],[27],[54].
doi:10.1371/journal.pone.00029 95.t003

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#3231 Jul 19, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a Cro-Magnon man who would have looked exactly like his European cousins 35000 years ago! So yes the scientists have got the recreation absolutely right! This is the very very latest scientific findings!
As I have stated before, you're delusional. With your imaginary African daddy. lol

Repost,

Quote:
"Molecular biology has traced the ancestry of the Cro-Magnons deep into&#65279; tropical Africa, into the territory of the hypothetical African Eve"...

[...]

Imperceptibly, in tiny numbers, the African ancestors of the Cro-Magnons expanded out of their tropical homeland at a time when human populations were on ...
--Cro-Magnon:How the Ice Age Gave Birth to the First Modern Humans, By Brian Fagan,pg 89 (2010).

Quote:
Today, most paleoanthropologists agree that the Cro-Magnons came from Africa (5).
--Stringer, C. B.(2003) Nature 423 , 692–695. pmid:12802315
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/16/5705.full

Quote:
"...the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans....were more like present-day Australians or Africans..."
--Chris Stringer, African Exodus ((Michael Witzel, The Origins of the World's Mythologies) 2013)
http://tinyurl.com/na595yr
Oxford University Press

Cro Magnon skull shows that our brains have shrunk
Mar 15, 2010 by Lisa Zyga

Quote:
For instance, different parts of the brain have different functions. The researchers found that the Cro Magnon brain appears to have had a smaller cerebellum [...]

http://phys.org/news187877156.html

http://picturestack.com/87/826/UtrSchermafbeE...
Quote:
"The so-called Old Man [Cro-Magnon 1] became the original model for
what was once termed the Cro-Magnon or Upper Paleolithic "race" of
Europe.. there's no such valid biological category, and Cro-Magnon 1 is
not typical of Upper Paleolithic western Europeans- and not even all that
similar to the other two make skulls found at the site. Most of the genetic
evidence, as well as the newest fossil evidence from Africa argue against
continuous local evolution producing modern groups directly from any
Eurasian pre-modern population.. there's no longer much debate that a
large genetic contribution from migrating early modern Africans infuenced
other groups throughout the Old World.“
--B. Lewis et al. 2008. Understanding Humans: Introduction to Physical
Anthropology and Archaeology. p 297

Quote:
"When canonical variates are
plotted, neither sample ties in with Cro-Magnon as was once suggested...
If this analysis shows nothing else, it demonstrates that the oft-repeated
European feeling that the Cro-Magnons are “us”(46) is more a product of
anthropological folklore than the result of the metric data available from
the skeletal remains..."
--CL. Brace 2005. The Questionable contribution of the Neolithic to European craniofacial form

http://picturestack.com/21/104/F6iSchermafbe8...
--Norman A. Johnson (2007) Darwinian Detectives: Revealing the Natural History of Genes and Genomes pg100

http://picturestack.com/654/224/XHbEncycloped...
Quote:
In modern humans, this elongation is a pattern characteristic of warm-adapted populations, and this physique may be an early Cro-Magnon retention from African ancestors. Similar retentions may be observed in certain indices of facial shape ...

Quote:
Thus, the discovery of tropically adapted
hominids in the region would therefore
likely indicate population dispersal from
the TROPICS, and the most logical
geographic source for such an influx is
Africa. In this regard, Trinkaus (1981,
1984, 1995) and Ruff (1994) have
argued that the high brachial and crural
indices, narrow biiliac breadths, and
small relative femoral head sizes of the
Qafzeh-Skhul hominids suggest an
influx of African genes associated with
the emergence of modern humans in the
region."
---Trenton Holliday (2000) Evolution at the
Crossroads: Modern Human Emergence in Western
Asia. American Anthropologist. New Series,
Vol. 102, No. 1, 54-68
trollslayer

Blue Island, IL

#3233 Jul 19, 2013
LETS READ THIS AGAIN.......

Quote:
"...the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans....were more like present-day Australians or Africans..."

--Chris Stringer, African Exodus ((Michael Witzel, The Origins of the World's Mythologies) 2013)
http://tinyurl.com/na595yr
Oxford University Press

....BTW, Australians ARE descendents of Africans
trollslayer

Blue Island, IL

#3234 Jul 19, 2013
LETS "KILL 2 BIRDS WITH 1 STONE"....continue reading...

Quote:
"...the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans....were more like present-day Australians or Africans..."....as is the case with some early modern skulls from Upper Cave at Zhoukoudian in
>>>CHINA.<<<
___

so do trolls who can't comprehend....there was a
original African presence in Europe & China.
Chris Singer says so, what? I guess he was "paid off by a 'black militant' "....lol
JanSobieskiSaved Europe

Brewster, NY

#3235 Jul 19, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
As I have stated before, you're delusional. With your imaginary African daddy. lol
Repost,
Quote:
"Molecular biology has traced the ancestry of the Cro-Magnons deep into&#65279; tropical Africa, into the territory of the hypothetical African Eve"...
[...]
Imperceptibly, in tiny numbers, the African ancestors of the Cro-Magnons expanded out of their tropical homeland at a time when human populations were on ...
--Cro-Magnon:How the Ice Age Gave Birth to the First Modern Humans, By Brian Fagan,pg 89 (2010).
Quote:
Today, most paleoanthropologists agree that the Cro-Magnons came from Africa (5).
--Stringer, C. B.(2003) Nature 423 , 692–695. pmid:12802315
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/16/5705.full
Quote:
"...the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans....were more like present-day Australians or Africans..."
--Chris Stringer, African Exodus ((Michael Witzel, The Origins of the World's Mythologies) 2013)
http://tinyurl.com/na595yr
Oxford University Press
Cro Magnon skull shows that our brains have shrunk
Mar 15, 2010 by Lisa Zyga
Quote:
For instance, different parts of the brain have different functions. The researchers found that the Cro Magnon brain appears to have had a smaller cerebellum [...]
http://phys.org/news187877156.html
http://picturestack.com/87/826/UtrSchermafbeE...
Quote:
"The so-called Old Man [Cro-Magnon 1] became the original model for
what was once termed the Cro-Magnon or Upper Paleolithic "race" of
Europe.. there's no such valid biological category, and Cro-Magnon 1 is
not typical of Upper Paleolithic western Europeans- and not even all that
similar to the other two make skulls found at the site. Most of the genetic
evidence, as well as the newest fossil evidence from Africa argue against
continuous local evolution producing modern groups directly from any
Eurasian pre-modern population.. there's no longer much debate that a
large genetic contribution from migrating early modern Africans infuenced
other groups throughout the Old World.“
--B. Lewis et al. 2008. Understanding Humans: Introduction to Physical
Anthropology and Archaeology. p 297
Quote:
"When canonical variates are
plotted, neither sample ties in with Cro-Magnon as was once suggested...
If this analysis shows nothing else, it demonstrates that the oft-repeated
European feeling that the Cro-Magnons are “us”(46) is more a product of
anthropological folklore than the result of the metric data available from
the skeletal remains..."
According to this Anthropology data Cro Magnon 1 from France & the Taforalt Afalou Cro Magnon man from North Africa were closest to FINLAND of all modern populations!!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u7NyW2SaZlE/TSRaQkM...

Finland is the most Blonde Europeans!!

Finland is of the Europeans closest to Asiatics but furthest from Africans or Middle Easterners by DNA!!!
JanSobieskiSaved Europe

Brewster, NY

#3237 Jul 19, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
Cro Magnon skull shows that our brains have shrunk
Mar 15, 2010 by Lisa Zyga
Quote:
For instance, different parts of the brain have different functions. The researchers found that the Cro Magnon brain appears to have had a smaller cerebellum [...]
http://phys.org/news187877156.html
http://picturestack.com/87/826/UtrSchermafbeE...
Quote:
Yes... This brain shrinkage seems to have come about with a massive increase in cephalic index or "Brachycephalic increases" in skulls.

The Brachycephalic skull has proportionately far more advanced frontal brain like the frontal cortex ect than a Dolichocephalic skull!!

But... The Brachycephalic skull is flattened to the rear with a loss of rear brain which is more primitive & more involved with vision.

Which may explain why Myopia near sightedness is more common with those with Higher IQ's!!

..
...
.... But.... Also since the Cro Magnon period the skulls of Europeans have grown also taller along with Brachycephalic.

Suggesting... That the European brains have readjusted since the Cro Magnon era to become slightly more advanced Frontal brain while significantly less rear brain.

..
...
...
.... If you are suggesting that a smaller brain from shrinkage puts modern Africans at the head of the curve.

Well.

..
...
.... Here is the thing Africans are still very dolichocephalic & short skulled!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#3239 Jul 19, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
LETS "KILL 2 BIRDS WITH 1 STONE"....continue reading...
Quote:
"...the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans....were more like present-day Australians or Africans..."....as is the case with some early modern skulls from Upper Cave at Zhoukoudian in
>>>CHINA.<<<
___
so do trolls who can't comprehend....there was a
original African presence in Europe & China.
Chris Singer says so, what? I guess he was "paid off by a 'black militant' "....lol
Nope the very first people everywhere was the very seriously sexy neanderthals who bred with Africans in Asia creating Cro-Magnon! Nope Cro-Magnon looked JUST LIKE THIS MAN ACCORDING TO LATEST SCIENTIFIC RECREATION:
www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/view
European Cro-Magnons looked exactly the same! They were THE FIRST MODERN PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST,EUROPE AND.....NORTH AFRICA!

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