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#252 Nov 11, 2012
Garrig wrote:
<quoted text>
From your site.
"Badarian people, who developed the earliest Predynastic Egyptian culture,already exhibited the mix of North African and
Sub-Saharan physical traits that have typified Egyptians ever since.."
This is saying they were mixed.
Of course Egyptains became mixed throughout...No one is denying that...

Ancient Egypt still arose from the south(Upper) which was predominantly black.

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#253 Nov 11, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
....keep this in mind India was 1st inhabited by Blacks from who migrated from e.Africa. The Dravidian's. Who are now relegated to a "under-class" status due to the racist caste system that was put in place...white Brahmin /hindu's.
__________
"Given both the historical context and modern practices, the notion that dark skin is unattractive seems to follow directly from the caste system. Dark skin calls to mind low-caste people, people who lack the education and opportunity to work in air-conditioned offices, shielded from the sun"
http://www.google.com/url...
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Now the trolls will lie and say blacks had nothing to do with India. However you if want info. on the ancient African
presence ' civilization in India e.g. the Dalits & Dravidian's ....I'll be glad to provide it.
Uh...Just saying. The original inhabitants of South Asia and the original people of those civilzations were Austro-Asiatic people who were neither African or Caucasian. Dravidians are not related to Africans.

They were predominant group in Sourh Asia until Indo-Aryan people pushed them further south.

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#256 Nov 11, 2012
Pharaoh MaIik-Akin wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG!!
Of course Egypt was only black, they called themselves kemet "black people'.
Only slaves were not black, what your saying makes no sense, it's like saying the US is an Indian country because the Native People were here first.
Damn, you've changed.
No...Read again. I did not say ancient Egypt was originally mixed. I said they became mixed THROUGHOUT due to INVASIONS...Like the Greeks,Romans,Persians,Turks and finally Arabs...
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#257 Nov 11, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
....keep this in mind India was 1st inhabited by Blacks from who migrated from e.Africa. The Dravidian's. Who are now relegated to a "under-class" status due to the racist caste system that was put in place...white Brahmin /hindu's.
__________
"Given both the historical context and modern practices, the notion that dark skin is unattractive seems to follow directly from the caste system. Dark skin calls to mind low-caste people, people who lack the education and opportunity to work in air-conditioned offices, shielded from the sun"
http://www.google.com/url...
__________
Now the trolls will lie and say blacks had nothing to do with India. However you if want info. on the ancient African
presence ' civilization in India e.g. the Dalits & Dravidian's ....I'll be glad to provide it.
Wrong yet again. You morons are so uneducated that you don't realize that often i'm stating simple mainstream well-known f acts, about which they've been multiple studies, about ALL of which I've read, usually, and so when I say it was found that Lower Egypt's population then looked about as it does today, I am speaking of known scientific fact. And you want references for everything, because you know nothing to start with!

Well, that data comes up in here, I don't have time to look for every goddam reference for you. Just reading Science Daily site and searching Egypt, human evolution, etc., will give you a lot of this information. That's a basic source.

Your idiotic insistence that Egypt had to be 100% black displays your racism more than any desire for knowledge.

The f'ing civilization was created by black people, ok, that is the truth, in upper Egypt, black people did it. And some of the cultural elements of Kemet even came from the Sahara, also black people.

Oh but I'm a Eurocentric Nazi white asskissing racist if I suggest that Eurasian people were in Lower Egypt, lol, when we see clearly that they were, as they were in adjacent Israel plus in the Maghreb to the West.

Get a f'ing grip.

And the Dravidians were of Mideastern origin, as their DNA attests. They emerged from the Mideastern cradle, as did the Maghrebians, the Cro-Magnon, the Caucasus G people, etc. They did not come out of East Africa. There were 2 large areas from which people diverged and populated the rest of Eurasia: the Mideast and India. The Dravidians originated in the Mideast. The Aryans, Siberian-Native American Q, East Asian O, those are from India.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#258 Nov 11, 2012
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
No...Read again. I did not say ancient Egypt was originally mixed. I said they became mixed THROUGHOUT due to INVASIONS...Like the Greeks,Romans,Persians,Turks and finally Arabs...
No, Egypt was mixed since predynastic times, due to the presence of eurasians in lower Egypt. This is well proven.

Even the Badarians, the people in upper Egypt immediately preceding the beginning of the civilization, showed admixture with Eurasians, though being originally and primarily people with Nubian affinities. Mainstream archaeology discovered this and it is well known and reported.

So “black Egypt” is confirmed by archaeology, by science, and so is “mixed Egypt”, and those arguing for “black Egypt” can be glad that it was indeed among the black part, Upper Egypt, where the civilization arose. But, no, that isn't enough for Afronazis whose very identity is threatened by the presence of Eurasians (by which we mean Mideastern types) in Lower Egypt.

But, whatchgonndo?
Whites are nonhuman

Fort Worth, TX

#259 Nov 11, 2012
big mike M wrote:
Click the link below to my site, to read my post.
http://black-earth.webs.com/apps/forums/topic...
I decided not to post it on this site, because I am not risking the mods keep deleting it like they always do some of my post.
Enjoy...
Egypt is in Africa,black people live in Africa,the statues,the paintings have black features.Whites have lied far too long.Their time is up.The white lie is over.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#260 Nov 11, 2012
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh...Just saying. The original inhabitants of South Asia and the original people of those civilzations were Austro-Asiatic people who were neither African or Caucasian. Dravidians are not related to Africans.
They were predominant group in Sourh Asia until Indo-Aryan people pushed them further south.
The Dravidians are interesting. We have genetic evidence of a Mideastern origin, and the historical knowledge of the Dravidian Elamites in southern Iran, and more is coming to light. It would seem that Aryans were involved in the Dravidian civilizations (including proto-India, however we construe that) from early on, though there was later movement of steppe Aryans southward which are the migrations historically recorded, such as those of the Persians and Medes.

It is my opinion that the language of Sumer, about which there is much speculation but no certainty, was Dravidian related to Elamite or to the language of Jiroft (Arrata).
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#261 Nov 11, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong yet again. You morons are so uneducated that you don't realize that often i'm stating simple mainstream well-known f acts, about which they've been multiple studies, about ALL of which I've read, usually, and so when I say it was found that Lower Egypt's population then looked about as it does today, I am speaking of known scientific fact. And you want references for everything, because you know nothing to start with!
Well, that data comes up in here, I don't have time to look for every goddam reference for you. Just reading Science Daily site and searching Egypt, human evolution, etc., will give you a lot of this information. That's a basic source.
Your idiotic insistence that Egypt had to be 100% black displays your racism more than any desire for knowledge.
The f'ing civilization was created by black people, ok, that is the truth, in upper Egypt, black people did it. And some of the cultural elements of Kemet even came from the Sahara, also black people.
Oh but I'm a Eurocentric Nazi white asskissing racist if I suggest that Eurasian people were in Lower Egypt, lol, when we see clearly that they were, as they were in adjacent Israel plus in the Maghreb to the West.
Get a f'ing grip.
And the Dravidians were of Mideastern origin, as their DNA attests. They emerged from the Mideastern cradle, as did the Maghrebians, the Cro-Magnon, the Caucasus G people, etc. They did not come out of East Africa. There were 2 large areas from which people diverged and populated the rest of Eurasia: the Mideast and India. The Dravidians originated in the Mideast. The Aryans, Siberian-Native American Q, East Asian O, those are from India.
There's TONS of attribution in this in this article so go fck. ur self if you wanna try to discredit cuz it's non-white, ya' racist.

http://www.google.com/url...

Sources:

Riddles of 3 Oceans', Alexander Kondratov

`Anabasis Alexandri, Book VIII (Indica)' by Arrian, tr. E. Iliff Robson (1933)

`Herodotus, The History', trans. George Rawlinson, Dutton & Co., N.York, 1862

`Itinerarium Alexandri,' Anonymous, 4th century AD,`Alexander's Itinerary, An English Translation' by Iolo Davies, The Ancient History Bulletin 12.1-2 (1998) 29-54

`The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea: Travel and Trade in the Indian Ocean by a Merchant of the First Century,' W.H. Schoff (tr. & ed.), London, Bombay & Calcutta 1912.

`History of India', Mountstuart Elphinstone, J.Murray, Albemarle Street, London 1841, reprinted 1988, Atlantic Publishers New Delhi 1988.

`Geography,', Strabo, translated by H. L. Jones (ed.), http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/ .
__________

" The ancient Greeks considered the Africans and Sudras (modern Dalits and Dravidians) as belonging to the same `Ethiopian' stock.`

Ethiopian' was the Greek word for `Negro', and Greek authors referred to the African Negroes as `Western Ethiopians' and to the Sudroids as `Eastern Ethiopians'(ie. Eastern Negroes)[ cf. Herodotus.VI.70 ] "
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#262 Nov 11, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Egypt was mixed since predynastic times, due to the presence of eurasians in lower Egypt. This is well proven.
Even the Badarians, the people in upper Egypt immediately preceding the beginning of the civilization, showed admixture with Eurasians, though being originally and primarily people with Nubian affinities. Mainstream archaeology discovered this and it is well known and reported.
So “black Egypt” is confirmed by archaeology, by science, and so is “mixed Egypt”, and those arguing for “black Egypt” can be glad that it was indeed among the black part, Upper Egypt, where the civilization arose. But, no, that isn't enough for Afronazis whose very identity is threatened by the presence of Eurasians (by which we mean Mideastern types) in Lower Egypt.
But, whatchgonndo?
You r a real clown there were NO whites or asian-whites in the beginning in Kemet. The civilization started from Nubia, south and moved NORTH. Stop trying STEAL AFRICAN culture and pass it on to non-Africans. Idiot....there was a time when there were no whites, just Blacks.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#263 Nov 11, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
The Dravidians are interesting. We have genetic evidence of a Mideastern origin, and the historical knowledge of the Dravidian Elamites in southern Iran, and more is coming to light. It would seem that Aryans were involved in the Dravidian civilizations (including proto-India, however we construe that) from early on, though there was later movement of steppe Aryans southward which are the migrations historically recorded, such as those of the Persians and Medes.
It is my opinion that the language of Sumer, about which there is much speculation but no certainty, was Dravidian related to Elamite or to the language of Jiroft (Arrata).
oh stop lying Dravidian were coal BLACK and are descendant of E. Africans. Stop with the "mid-east" LIE. And show your cut & paste in a full link.
Nagas74

Detroit, MI

#264 Nov 13, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You speak in absolutes... typically for a racist.
Racist... yes, that's what you are. That makes you subhuman scum, boy!
“THE” ancient Egyptians are PROVEN to have been of mixed origins, moron.
And you are proving that you are a dropout.
Stop flip-flopping Barrass. On the other thread you admit that the ancient egyptians were black. I guess that was when you were trying to impress that Tom Bakari. You are the most anti-black troll on topix. A racist who tries to mask his racism in 'science'.
Nagas74

Detroit, MI

#265 Nov 13, 2012
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh...Just saying. The original inhabitants of South Asia and the original people of those civilzations were Austro-Asiatic people who were neither African or Caucasian. Dravidians are not related to Africans.
They were predominant group in Sourh Asia until Indo-Aryan people pushed them further south.
The Dravidians are definitely black and of African descent. Stop trying to cater to Eurocentric oppinions and divide and conquer psuedoscience.
trollslayer

Schererville, IN

#266 Nov 13, 2012
Nagas74 wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop flip-flopping Barrass. On the other thread you admit that the ancient egyptians were black. I guess that was when you were trying to impress that Tom Bakari. You are the most anti-black troll on topix. A racist who tries to mask his racism in 'science'.
his peers have spoken
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TA34MRH7FC20S...
Nagas74

Detroit, MI

#267 Nov 13, 2012
greg armstrong wrote:
anybody who debates or comments about these types of sights be they black or white your nothing more then a racist who doesnt know the true and living god enough to know that your wasting your time worrying about what false god worshiping satanically driven culture of people looked like who cares god destroyed them anyway they were gay they had slaves they oppressed people they knew not the real god 900 gods resided in egypt they killed chlidren woman i could go on but what for your man does notunderstand a spiritual thing anyway
Yes,you could go on.....but how much dumb and false info should you squeeze in one idiotic post?
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#268 Nov 13, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
....keep this in mind India was 1st inhabited by Blacks from who migrated from e.Africa. The Dravidian's. Who are now relegated to a "under-class" status due to the racist caste system that was put in place...white Brahmin /hindu's.
__________
"Given both the historical context and modern practices, the notion that dark skin is unattractive seems to follow directly from the caste system. Dark skin calls to mind low-caste people, people who lack the education and opportunity to work in air-conditioned offices, shielded from the sun"
http://www.google.com/url...
__________
Now the trolls will lie and say blacks had nothing to do with India. However you if want info. on the ancient African
presence ' civilization in India e.g. the Dalits & Dravidian's ....I'll be glad to provide it.
LOL!!! Here we go... yes, you cannot deny that evidence mounts for India being VERY old, and so you have to jump on it and make it “black”... so typical, smh.

Your entire “Aryan invasion” interpretation is bogus. The invasion theory is well disproven. Cities in the Sarasvati River have been found which are mentioned in the Vedas and are far older than the supposed invasion and writing of the Rig Veda.

The original people in India were of the earliest C migration. C is a Eurasian haplotype, not African.

After that, Dravidian L is of Mideastern, not African, parentage. And Aryan R arose in northern India but spread widely.

India then is the second major cradle and origin point for dispersal in Eurasia, the Mideast being the first. Everyone involved were Eurasians, as in SE Asia, as in the Mideast until the Natufians arrive, as in Europe.

Of course you aren't interested in the developments occurring in what is now Sahel and southern Sahara, in Central Africa, at that time.

And beware of much info on Dalits... a lot of it has an Islamicist source and an anti-Hindu agenda.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#269 Nov 13, 2012
Nagas74 wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop flip-flopping Barrass. On the other thread you admit that the ancient egyptians were black. I guess that was when you were trying to impress that Tom Bakari. You are the most anti-black troll on topix. A racist who tries to mask his racism in 'science'.
You idiot, I am saying that EGYPTIAN CIVILIZATION was created BY BLACK PEOPLE in UPPER EGYPT!!!

I never varied from that. The predynastic Neolithic physical and cultural remains of Upper Egypt have Nubian affinities. Can it be more clear than that?

Furthermore, there was some migration into the Nile Valley in late predynastic times of Saharans pushed by the drying Sahara, and they were also “black”.

You are the most daft befuddled dizzy dumbass on Topix!

When the HELL did I say anything anti-black? Please post that. I consistently jump white racists for anti-black crap. And I jump you for being a racist Afronazi dimwit misfit.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#270 Nov 13, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
There's TONS of attribution in this in this article so go fck. ur self if you wanna try to discredit cuz it's non-white, ya' racist.
http://www.google.com/url...
Sources:
Riddles of 3 Oceans', Alexander Kondratov
`Anabasis Alexandri, Book VIII (Indica)' by Arrian, tr. E. Iliff Robson (1933)
`Herodotus, The History', trans. George Rawlinson, Dutton & Co., N.York, 1862
`Itinerarium Alexandri,' Anonymous, 4th century AD,`Alexander's Itinerary, An English Translation' by Iolo Davies, The Ancient History Bulletin 12.1-2 (1998) 29-54
`The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea: Travel and Trade in the Indian Ocean by a Merchant of the First Century,' W.H. Schoff (tr. & ed.), London, Bombay & Calcutta 1912.
`History of India', Mountstuart Elphinstone, J.Murray, Albemarle Street, London 1841, reprinted 1988, Atlantic Publishers New Delhi 1988.
`Geography,', Strabo, translated by H. L. Jones (ed.), http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/ .
__________
" The ancient Greeks considered the Africans and Sudras (modern Dalits and Dravidians) as belonging to the same `Ethiopian' stock.`
Ethiopian' was the Greek word for `Negro', and Greek authors referred to the African Negroes as `Western Ethiopians' and to the Sudroids as `Eastern Ethiopians'(ie. Eastern Negroes)[ cf. Herodotus.VI.70 ] "
What a load. And where in there do we see Indians being other than Eurasian? Herodotus? LOL!!!

You are pathetic.
trollslayer

Schererville, IN

#271 Nov 13, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!!! Here we go... yes, you cannot deny that evidence mounts for India being VERY old, and so you have to jump on it and make it “black”... so typical, smh.
Your entire “Aryan invasion” interpretation is bogus. The invasion theory is well disproven. Cities in the Sarasvati River have been found which are mentioned in the Vedas and are far older than the supposed invasion and writing of the Rig Veda.
The original people in India were of the earliest C migration. C is a Eurasian haplotype, not African.
After that, Dravidian L is of Mideastern, not African, parentage. And Aryan R arose in northern India but spread widely.
India then is the second major cradle and origin point for dispersal in Eurasia, the Mideast being the first. Everyone involved were Eurasians, as in SE Asia, as in the Mideast until the Natufians arrive, as in Europe.
Of course you aren't interested in the developments occurring in what is now Sahel and southern Sahara, in Central Africa, at that time.
And beware of much info on Dalits... a lot of it has an Islamicist source and an anti-Hindu agenda.
sigh.....then EXPLAIN the reasoning behind a caste system. I would prefer to see links substantiating any assertions.
trollslayer

Schererville, IN

#272 Nov 13, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
What a load. And where in there do we see Indians being other than Eurasian? Herodotus? LOL!!!
You are pathetic.
Get off your lazy-azz and acquaint urself with the sources......I'm not gonna do anymore work for u. The original inhabitants of India were NOT white or asian.

Sources:

Riddles of 3 Oceans', Alexander Kondratov
`Anabasis Alexandri, Book VIII (Indica)' by Arrian, tr. E. Iliff Robson (1933)

`Herodotus, The History', trans. George Rawlinson, Dutton & Co., N.York, 1862

`Itinerarium Alexandri,' Anonymous, 4th century AD,`Alexander's Itinerary, An English Translation' by Iolo Davies, The Ancient History Bulletin 12.1-2 (1998) 29-54

`The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea: Travel and Trade in the Indian Ocean by a Merchant of the First Century,' W.H. Schoff (tr. & ed.), London, Bombay & Calcutta 1912.

`History of India', Mountstuart Elphinstone, J.Murray, Albemarle Street, London 1841, reprinted 1988, Atlantic Publishers New Delhi 1988.

`Geography,', Strabo, translated by H. L. Jones (ed.), http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/ .
__________
" The ancient Greeks considered the Africans and Sudras (modern Dalits and Dravidians) as belonging to the same `Ethiopian' stock.`
Ethiopian' was the Greek word for `Negro', and Greek authors referred to the African Negroes as `Western Ethiopians' and to the Sudroids as `Eastern Ethiopians'(ie. Eastern Negroes)[ cf. Herodotus.VI.70 ] "
Nagas74

Detroit, MI

#273 Nov 13, 2012
Bareass's job is to deny any African pressence outside of Africa(and even in Africa;30,000 yr. Old whites in the Maghreb,"mixed" Badarians and Ancient Egyptians etc.). He is an agent of white supremacy and pusher of racist Eurocentric psuedoscience. His racism surpasses all logic and makes him quite delusional. He will stare right at Africoid statues of Buddha,Olmec heads,and the like and see what he wants to see. He and nothing he posts can be objective when it comes to black people.

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