The Ancient Egyptians were black! Fin...

Sinajuavi
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#2222 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
The funniest thing Barros will say is: "your" ancestor looked nothing like you "modern (negro) Africans". And right after that he will say, eurasians have been in North Africa 30 Kya and have always looked the same. LOL
When you ask for evidence in fossil records...???? LOL
You're a liar, boy, and in person I will slap those lies out of you.

I never said the Maghrebians never changed. In fact I said clearly that their archaic (Cro-Magnon-like) characteristics were typical of humans of that time. Obviously they have changed since then.

And 60,000 years ago, Africans were not like modern blacks. That is true for everyone on earth. Everyone has changed.

In part this is due to W-Central African admixture with Homo heidelbergensis, but otherwise is due simply to evolution, which is ongoing.

Of course you Afronazis OBVIOUSLY have no understanding of evolution, nor how to interpet evidence.

Yes, you're babbling nonsense, lay pseudo-intellectual Afronazi boy.

You lying son of liars... we posted info on various fossil finds in the Maghreb, all showing Eurasian people and with Eurasian DNA.

You lying bastard. You lying $hit. You lying racist. You lying punkbutt.

You lying Afronazi.

Sinajuavi
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Since: Nov 11

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#2223 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Aterian culture ended 40,000 years ago and was by indigenous Africans. As were other processes post cultures.
And Eurasians arrived 30,000 years ago, as proven by fossil evidence of Cro-Magnon-like remains with pure Eurasian DNA.

Remains from Taforalt 12,000 years ago also were of Eurasian type and had pure Eurasian DNA.

You lose, Afronazi liar.

"As were other processes post cultures."... and just what does that non-sentence mean, dropout boy? LOL!!!

Afronazi.

“Maat's my principle”

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Since: Jan 12

bamako,mali

#2224 Jul 3, 2013
LOL !
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2225 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
You've just exposed your stupidity once again!
TRY TO READ NEXT TIME WHAT I CITE, THIS SAVES YOU TROUBLE, NOW LOOKING LIKE A LUNATIC!
You are a dumb b*tch. You dont understand African culture B*tch. I bet those Berbers dont think they black Africans!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2226 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
Mixed race people likely have intermediate, just like modern North Egyptians do.
No matter how you pull it out of your arse, eurasians were and are cold adapted.
What we can say, however, is that in the Holocene, humans from southwest Asia do not exhibit tropically adapted body shape (Crognier 1981; Eveleth and Tanner 1976; Schreider 1975).... "
---Trenton Holliday (2000) Evolution at the
Crossroads: Modern Human Emergence in Western
Asia. American Anthropologist. New Series, Vol. 102, No. 1, 54-68
And yes, they do carry E1b1b and no they aren't cacuacasoids. There in no Libyan Tamazight that will say such nonsense. I have shown you Libyan Tamazight! LOL
E1b1b fundamentally is rooted in E-M35!!!!!!!!
And again yes, modern Egyptians are the descendants of the ancient Egyptians. HOWEVER, the North Egyptian have admixture due to recent invasions. Thus making intermediate in limb ratio metrics.
E-M78 NOT EM38!! Those Libyans look mixed race to me just like my people in Cape Town. Mixed race people can also have tropical limbs!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2227 Jul 3, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
trolls keep saying "mixed"...."mix ed" WITH WHAT???
Also trolls keep placing non-blacks as far back as can be remembered. The FACT remains only B;acks were on earth at one point. Whites WERE NOT ALWAYS HERE.
SO......"mixed" WITH WHAT???
EURASIANS like Neolithic farmers,Berbers,Libyans!!!!!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2228 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
What you need to understand is the dynamics of cultural exchange. I understand that it's hard for you to understand.
Some knowledge was indeed imported, while other knowledge was completely indigenous.
However, you have to understand that ancient Egyptians (North and South) were INDIGENOUS TROPICAL ADAPTED AFRICANS!!! While eurasian were and are cold adapted in limb ratio.
This has been shown to you how many times? lol
Description of X-ray images of Royal Mummies in X-ray Atlas of the Royal Mummies
http://asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/data7_file...
quote:
"Analysis of Predinastic skeletal material showed tropical African elements in the population of the earliest populations of the earliest Badarian culture" [...]
--Frank Yurco
quote:
Little change in body shape was found through time, suggesting that all body segments were varying in size in response to environmental and social conditions. The change found in body plan is suggested to be the result of the later groups having a more tropical (Nilotic) form than the preceding populations.
--Sonia R. Zakrzewski, American Journal of&#65279; Physical Anthropology
Volume 121, Issue 3, pages 219–229, July 2003
quote:
The results indicate overall population continuity over the Predynastic and early Dynastic, and high levels of genetic heterogeneity, thereby suggesting that state formation occurred as a mainly indigenous process. Nevertheless, significant differences were found in morphology between both geographically-pooled and cemetery-specific temporal groups, indicating that some migration occurred along the Egyptian Nile Valley over the periods&time; studied.
--Am J Phys Anthropol, 2007.
Quote:
The dates of admixture (assuming 30 years
per generation)42 are reported in Table 1. Notably, in most
of the Semitic, Cushitic, and Omotic populations, the
admixture of African and non-African ancestry components
dates to 2.5–3 kya, whereas in North Africa, the
admixture dates are ~2 ky more recent, clustering around
1 kya, consistent with previous reports.
--Pagani et al 2012
Lets face the FACTS here: YOU ARE A RACIST!!!!!!!!!!
The most oldest document in the world the Palermo stone SAYS LIBYANS LIVED IN SOUTHERN EGYPT BEFORE THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT! YOU ARE AN AFRONAZI RACIST!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2229 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO REALIZE!
REPEAT!!!!!!!!
Quote:
Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra-Saharan Africa.
--Frigi et al.(2010)
quote:
"In fact, in terms of body shape, the European and the Inuit samples tend to be cold-adapted and tend to be separated in multivariate space from the more tropically adapted Africans, especially those groups from south of the Sahara."
--Holliday&#65279; TW, Hilton CE.
Body proportions of circumpolar peoples as evidenced from skeletal data: Ipiutak and Tigara (Point Hope) versus Kodiak Island Inuit.
quote:
"What we&#65279; can say, however, is that in the Holocene, humans from southwest Asia do not exhibit&#65279; tropically adapted body shape (Crognier 1981; Eveleth and Tanner 1976; Schreider 1975).... "
---Trenton Holliday (2000) Evolution at the
Crossroads: Modern Human Emergence in Western
Asia. American Anthropologist. New Series, Vol. 102, No. 1, 54-68
quote:
semi-tropical/arid tropic zones, show clear limb proportion characteristics of tropically adapted people, and MORE closely resemble other tropically adapted Africans on the continent, than Europeans or Middle Easterners.(Raxter and Ruff 2008, Zakrewski 2003, 2007; Holliday et al, 2003, Kemp, 2005) 3) Undermining claims of cold-climate or skin color primacy for civilization, the great ancient Nile Valley civilization arose from the 'darker' more tropical south, NOT the cold climate or cool climate Mediterranean, Europe or Asia.(Clark, 1982; Shaw 1976, 2003; Bard, 2004; Vogel, 1997; Kemp 2005)
-- Smith, P.(2002)
"Analysis of Predinastic skeletal material showed tropical African elements in the population of the earliest populations of the&#65279; earliest Badarian culture" [...]
--Frank Yurco
"Little change in body shape was found through time, suggesting that all body segments were varying in size in response to environmental and social conditions. The change found in body plan is suggested to be the result of the later groups having a more tropical (Nilotic) form than the preceding populations."
--Sonia R. Zakrzewski, Am J&#65279; Phys Anthropol. 2003 Jul;121(3):219-29.
"The results indicate overall population continuity over the Predynastic and early Dynastic, and high levels of genetic heterogeneity, thereby suggesting that state formation occurred as a mainly indigenous process. Nevertheless, significant differences were found in morphology between both geographically-pooled and&#65279; cemetery-specific temporal groups, indicating that some migration occurred along the Egyptian Nile Valley over the periods&time; studied."
--Sonia R. Zakrzewski, 2007.
quote:
"African peoples are the most diverse in the world whether analyzed by DNA or&#65279; skeletal or cranial methods. The peoples of the Nile Valley vary but they are still related. The people most related ethnically to the ancient Egyptians are other Africans like Nubians not cold-climate/light skinned Europeans or Asiatics."(Keita 1996; Rethelford, 2001; Bianchi 2004, Yurco 1989; Godde 2009)
Afronazi rubbish written before DNA testing. Ancient and modern Egyptians carry E1b1b that originates in Libya/Egypt. North Africans ARE MORE RELATED TO EACH OTHER!Nubians carry 60% Eurasian DNA and 20% African DNA. Its not really surprising, seeing ancient Libyans lived with them!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2230 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
What a dumbass this is. LOL
THIKS HERE IS PROVE THAT ALL THESE STUDIES FLY OVER YOUR HEAD AND I.Q. LEVEL. AND WE HAVEN'T GONE THAT DEEP! LOL
Modern Magreb people will logically be intermediate since they have some, to a lot of admixture, depending from region-to-region! Most reduct it will be at the Med coast considering the history!
REPOST AGAIN! LOL
quote:
"The Berber tribes were far removed from each other and this was one reason why Morocco was often invaded"....
http://www.marokko-info.nl/english/history-of...
quote:
" During historic times, Berbers experienced a long and complicated history with many invasions, conquests, and migrations by Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals, Byzantines, Arabs, Bedouins, Spanish, Turks, Andalusians, sub-Saharans (communities settled in Jerba and Gabes in the 16th–19th centuries), and French (Brett and Fentress 1996). During these invasions, Berbers were forced back to the mountains and to certain villages in southern Tunisia[...]
--Fadhlaoui-Zid et al. 2004
quote:
[...]"it is important to bear in mind that over the centuries the Maghreb has been a melting-pot of many other ethnic groups and cultures"
--Jamil M. Abun-Nasr, Cambridge University Press, 1987 - page 5.
However, these populations from the Neolithic and Mesolithic and proto did cluster 1/1.
Quote:
Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra-Saharan Africa.
--Frigi et al.(2010)
Quote:
Mechtoid, these were a skeletally robust people and definitely African in origin,[...]
This was the practice of removing two or more of the upper incisors, usually around puberty and from both males and females, something that probably served as both a rite of passage and an ethnic marker (Close and Wendorf 1990), just as it does in parts of sub-Saharan Africa today (e.g., van Reenen 1987).
Cranial and postcranial malformations are also apparent and may indicate pronounced endogamy at a much more localised level (Hadjouis 2002), perhaps supported by the degree of variability between different site samples noted by Irish (2000).
--Lawrence Barham
Quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
Figure 6. Principal components analysis of craniofacial dimensions among Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene populations from the Maghreb and southern Sahara.
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
Table 3. Nine human populations sampled for craniometric analysis ranging in age from the Late Pleistocene (ca. 80,000 BP, Aterian) to the mid-Holocene (ca. 4000 BP) and in geographic distribution across the Maghreb to the southern Sahara [18],[19],[26],[27],[54].
doi:10.1371/journal.pone.00029 95.t003
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
I am truly trying to explain this, but your i.q. level just want tell me. SMH
Mechtoids are a combination of Cro-Magnon,neanderthal,African !
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2231 Jul 3, 2013
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFLMAO!!!! Guys this is the post of a broken and defeated person. Is that all you have??? LMAO!!!
If that's the case then how were they able to paint those 'white skinned Libyans' you always talk about.*Rollseyes*
And the Ancients used man made paint. black was from charcoal, white from huntite, calcium carbonate or calcium sulphate, yellow from ochre, reds from heated ochre, blue from azurite (copper carbonate), green from malachite, and so on.
So obviously they were ABLE to accurately depict themselves and others. Get a life loser! lol...
Loser only later they used colours! Anyway the ancient Egyptians painted Libyans as light skin, like it or not loser!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2232 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
You've just exposed your stupidity once again!
TRY TO READ NEXT TIME WHAT I CITE, THIS SAVES YOU TROUBLE, NOW LOOKING LIKE A LUNATIC!
YOUVE NEVER EVER SET FOOT IN AFRICA so whst the F*CK do you know???? Typically dumb Afronazi B*tch! I bet if you ask Berbers if they are Black Africans they would say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! No mixed race people ever call themselves black!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2233 Jul 3, 2013
Keita is not racists as usual in this link:

Y-DNA shows Egyptians are Middle Eastern/North African in origin same as their ancestors before they were conquered!
mtDNA shows Egyptians are related mainly to Ethiopians and other Nile peoples same as ancient Egyptians before they were conquered!

www.sites.google.com/site/egyptianpeople/orig...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2234 Jul 3, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Afronazi rubbish written before DNA testing. Ancient and modern Egyptians carry E1b1b that originates in Libya/Egypt. North Africans ARE MORE RELATED TO EACH OTHER!Nubians carry 60% Eurasian DNA and 20% African DNA. Its not really surprising, seeing ancient Libyans lived with them!
LOL "AT RUBBISH WRITING", BY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE THEABILITY TO EVEN GRAPHS IT CLOSELY!

LOL From where did you get that Nubians / South Egyptian carry 60 Eurasian DNA?

NUBIANS ARE TROPICAL ADAPTED PEOPLE FROM AFRICA, NUBIANS HAVE A ENDOGAMOUS TRADITION! LOL

MASLIT AND FUR CARRY THE HIGHST FREQUENCY OF E-M78!!!!!!!!!! LOL

THE ROOT OF E-M78 IS E-M35, WHICH IS FROM EAST AFRICA. HENCE THE SOUTH!!!!!!

IT SIMPLY PUNCHES MORE HOLES IN YOUR ALREADY DUMB SKULL!

Quote:
The dates of admixture (assuming 30 years
per generation)42 are reported in Table 1. Notably, in most
of the Semitic, Cushitic, and Omotic populations, the
admixture of African and non-African ancestry components
dates to 2.5–3 kya, whereas in North Africa, the
admixture dates are ~2 ky more recent, clustering around
1 kya, consistent with previous reports.
--Pagani et al 2012

Face the FACTS here: RACIST!!!!!!!!
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2235 Jul 3, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
Moron, the people in the mountains are the whitest of the lot! LOL!!!
Yes, the original Maghrebians were Eurasians, mixed with Africans after 20,000 years ago, but remaining of Mediterranean Eurasian type until the present.
Yet again you punk yourself. For your own good, stop posting information, Afronazi!
And, furthermore, Afronazi putz, neither limb nor cranial proportions are reliable indictors of ancestry.
Dumbass. And you're still talking about Aterians! LOL!!!
Any irrelevancy you can find to muddy the waters, eh?
Lying Afronazi putz.
LOL AT THIS NUMBSKULL!

You argue with the fact of the remains showing AFRICAN CLUSTERING with other indigenous peoples, and not foreign Eurasian! Not even in the tool remains! LOL

But we do have recent invasions such as Vandals, Romans, Greeks Turks Arabs, changing the population.

And YES I was still writing about the Aterians, because this CRUSHES your 30 Ka fantasy! And so do the post remains. LOL

And as excepted you haven't been able to show as single eurasian in North Africa during the Paleolithic, Holocene or Neolithic.

Quote:
Mechtoid, these were a skeletally robust people and definitely African in origin,[...]

This was the practice of removing two or more of the upper incisors, usually around puberty and from both males and females, something that probably served as both a rite of passage and an ethnic marker (Close and Wendorf 1990), just as it does in parts of sub-Saharan Africa today (e.g., van Reenen 1987).

Cranial and postcranial malformations are also apparent and may indicate pronounced endogamy at a much more localised level (Hadjouis 2002), perhaps supported by the degree of variability between different site samples noted by Irish (2000).
--Lawrence Barham

Quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...

LOL
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2236 Jul 3, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Mechtoids are a combination of Cro-Magnon,neanderthal,African !
This is all in your imagination.

HERE IS REALITY!

Quote:
Mechtoid, these were a skeletally robust people and definitely African in origin,[...]

This was the practice of removing two or more of the upper incisors, usually around puberty and from both males and females, something that probably served as both a rite of passage and an ethnic marker (Close and Wendorf 1990), just as it does in parts of sub-Saharan Africa today (e.g., van Reenen 1987).

Cranial and postcranial malformations are also apparent and may indicate pronounced endogamy at a much more localised level (Hadjouis 2002), perhaps supported by the degree of variability between different site samples noted by Irish (2000).
--Lawrence Barham

Quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...

LOL

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#2237 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL AT THIS NUMBSKULL!
You argue with the fact of the remains showing AFRICAN CLUSTERING with other indigenous peoples, and not foreign Eurasian! Not even in the tool remains! LOL
But we do have recent invasions such as Vandals, Romans, Greeks Turks Arabs, changing the population.
And YES I was still writing about the Aterians, because this CRUSHES your 30 Ka fantasy! And so do the post remains. LOL
And as excepted you haven't been able to show as single eurasian in North Africa during the Paleolithic, Holocene or Neolithic.
Quote:
Mechtoid, these were a skeletally robust people and definitely African in origin,[...]
This was the practice of removing two or more of the upper incisors, usually around puberty and from both males and females, something that probably served as both a rite of passage and an ethnic marker (Close and Wendorf 1990), just as it does in parts of sub-Saharan Africa today (e.g., van Reenen 1987).
Cranial and postcranial malformations are also apparent and may indicate pronounced endogamy at a much more localised level (Hadjouis 2002), perhaps supported by the degree of variability between different site samples noted by Irish (2000).
--Lawrence Barham
Quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
LOL
Jackass.

Still babbling about the Aterians? LOL!!!

Mechta-Afalou remains were obviously mixed. I've read the literature on this... if I thought you were worth the trouble, I'd post it, but you will simply ignore it and go on lying as always.

Afronazi lying bastard.

“Try harder :)”

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Since: Oct 11

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#2238 Jul 3, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>You get a life dummy and stop lying! The ancient Egyptians were more advanced than cavemen.
Whacked by THE PALMERO STONE!!!!
Thanks for proving my point dipshcit! Like I said the Ancient Egyptians were able to create man made colors.

Again get a life...And what is the Palmero stone suppose to prove?

"Palermo Stone, one of the basic sources of information about the chronology and cultural history of ancient Egypt during the first five dynasties (c. 2925–c. 2325 bce). Named for the Sicilian city where it has been preserved since 1877, the black basalt stone is one of six existing fragments from a single stela that probably originally stood in an Egyptian temple or other important building. It is inscribed on both sides with horizontal lines of hieroglyphic text, the top row listing the names of predynastic rulers. The following rows, each headed by the name of a different king, are divided into compartments, each compartment signifying one year. Within the compartments the hieroglyphs always list one or more memorable events of that year. Thus, the original monument was apparently a year-by-year record of all the kings from the 1st through the 5th dynasty (c. 2925–c. 2325 bce), although the last name preserved on the stone is that of Neferirkare (see Ancient Egypt: The 5th dynasty), the third of the nine kings of the 5th dynasty."
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/439...
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2239 Jul 3, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL "AT RUBBISH WRITING", BY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE THEABILITY TO EVEN GRAPHS IT CLOSELY!
LOL From where did you get that Nubians / South Egyptian carry 60 Eurasian DNA?
NUBIANS ARE TROPICAL ADAPTED PEOPLE FROM AFRICA, NUBIANS HAVE A ENDOGAMOUS TRADITION! LOL
MASLIT AND FUR CARRY THE HIGHST FREQUENCY OF E-M78!!!!!!!!!! LOL
THE ROOT OF E-M78 IS E-M35, WHICH IS FROM EAST AFRICA. HENCE THE SOUTH!!!!!!
IT SIMPLY PUNCHES MORE HOLES IN YOUR ALREADY DUMB SKULL!
Quote:
The dates of admixture (assuming 30 years
per generation)42 are reported in Table 1. Notably, in most
of the Semitic, Cushitic, and Omotic populations, the
admixture of African and non-African ancestry components
dates to 2.5–3 kya, whereas in North Africa, the
admixture dates are ~2 ky more recent, clustering around
1 kya, consistent with previous reports.
--Pagani et al 2012
Face the FACTS here: RACIST!!!!!!!!
You Afronazi idiot they are all Caucasoids! The Eurasian Neolithic Farmers came into Egypt at least 6000 years ago! The Berbers were always Caucasoid and still are! E-M35 originated in Ethiopia but mutated in Egypt about 22000 years ago. At the time of the pyramids they were extremely mixed race leaning more towards Eurasian! Libyans who were also Caucasoids lived in Southern Egypt! Big noses,big ears,thin lips all mixed race and looking like Jews! You racist Afronazi supremist!

“Try harder :)”

Level 8

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#2240 Jul 3, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Eurasians brought civilization to the stupid Egyptians.
ROFLMFAO!!!! Oh god...This to funny! This is what you call desperation! Sorry but Ancient Egyptian civilization came from the south among AFRICAN. Even your buddy Barros agrees with that!

Also Nabta Playa which is to the south is older than Ancient Egypt ITSELF!
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#2241 Jul 3, 2013
Modern studies of ancient dentition cluster ancient Egyptians with Caucasoids as opposed to N*groids! N*groids have bigger teeth than Caucasoids! According to Prof. Joel Irish they were indigenous North Africans and nothing like Sub-Saharan Africans! End of story!

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