Smarter than the FBI, color blind or ...

Smarter than the FBI, color blind or plain stupid.

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Stag_R_Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Apr 18, 2013
About the Boston Bombing...
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The Establishment has come up with some unbelievably cock eyed analysis, including 911, Lockerbie bombing. London bombing 7/7 and now--it seems--they are outdoing even the wild narratives that they came up with in the past.

First thing first. The racist and hate mongers were hoping against hope that a Black would be named as a suspect. Failing that, they wanted to at least have a photo that Might be confused with a Muslim and--ideally--the hate mongers would have loved to have both--and they still are arguing against the obvious conclusion that the suspects are definitely not African or AF. AM. and don't resemble the typical Middle Eastern facial profile.
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Now that that's out of the way, let's talk about the suspects. The FBI gives us two. In fact, only one is suspected to have planted the bomb.(That would be the one wearing the white hat.) We must speculate that the FBI included the individual in the Black hat to give some substance to their errant analysis.

My point:: as it is the individual wearing the white hat that is said to have planted the bomb, the presence of the other man is totally irrelevant, unless there is some hidden malevolence involved any two people walking in the same direction.(Another film, I don't know if it has bearing shows a man wearing a red hat, but again what is the relevance?

Now, the FBI report indicates that the man in the white hat planted the bomb. They advance thus theory because he was carrying a back pack. In the film showed by the FBI were also carrying a backpack, but they don't get to become "suspects" only the two men who might possibly have been Middle Westerners.

Now, notice the right hand of the man in the white cap. It's position--together with his visible backpack--informs us that he is, indeed, carrying a backpack. During the series of photos, his hand position does not change. In fact, the last time we see the man in the white hat, his hand is in exactly the same position and indicating that he continues to carry the backpack--but the FBI tells us that fragments of a heavy back pack were found among the debris associated with the blast.

So, in order to maintain that the FBI includes folks with reasonable intelligence and that they are not color blind, will someone kindly explain to this stupid person how anyone in their right mind might deduce--in their wildest fantasy-- from the revealed photos that the guy in the white hat should be considered --and selected out--as a bombing "suspect?"
Stag_R_Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Apr 18, 2013
Correction

Of course, I meant to compare the features of the suspect with Middle Easterners, not mId Westerners. Also, I dropped the word "others" when mentioning those in the film who were also wearing backpacks. It's a fact: Lot's of people in Boston wear backpacks.;

Since: Feb 09

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#3 Apr 18, 2013
Someone on another thread said there is video footage of the man setting the backback down- but I haven't found it yet. Does anyone have a link? And what about the bombs that they said were there but did not go off?
Bill

Merrimack, NH

#5 Apr 18, 2013
1: They're obviously Arabs.

2: If you believe this is the SOLE evidence the FBI has on these two you are an absolute fool. They simply provided these photos of the suspects to the public because it enables the public to identify them and also dispels suspicion from those wrongly accused (as the Post did to that poor high school kid from Morocco.) It's almost certain the FBI has footage or evidence of them leaving the bombs behind directly. At no time did they say ONLY the man in the white hat planted the bombs, they say both men had separate bombs and they both planted them.

Do you honestly believe this short footage clip is the only evidence the FBI has on these two? You're delusional.
Bill

Merrimack, NH

#6 Apr 18, 2013
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
In fact, only one is suspected to have planted the bomb.(That would be the one wearing the white hat.) We must speculate that the FBI included the individual in the Black hat to give some substance to their errant analysis.
My point:: as it is the individual wearing the white hat that is said to have planted the bomb, the presence of the other man is totally irrelevant, unless there is some hidden malevolence involved any two people walking in the same direction.(Another film, I don't know if it has bearing shows a man wearing a red hat, but again what is the relevance?
Hahaha, you do realize there were TWO bombs, correct? They were each carrying a backpack, and each backpack contained a bomb. You keep referring to "The bomb" as if there were only one.
Bill

Merrimack, NH

#7 Apr 18, 2013
sONE wrote:
Someone on another thread said there is video footage of the man setting the backback down- but I haven't found it yet. Does anyone have a link? And what about the bombs that they said were there but did not go off?
Yes, the FBI has stated they have overhwleming evidence, including footage of at least one of them setting the bomb down where it exploded. If anyone believes the FBI would release all evidence they've gathered on the suspects thus far to the public.... well, that's so idiotic I don't know what to think. Anyway, here's what you're talking about:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/boston-blast...

"Other footage, still unreleased, shows that the two suspects stayed at the scene to watch the carnage unfold, a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti.

"When the bombs blow up, when most people are running away and victims were lying on the ground, the two suspects walk away pretty casually," said the official, who has seen the unreleased video. "They acted differently than everyone else," he added.

While video of at least one suspect planting the bomb exists, the FBI had chosen not to release it, according to the official. One reason, according to the official, is that were the media to repeatedly show the suspects leaving the bomb, it might cause some people to overreact if they came into contact with them.
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#8 Apr 18, 2013
Bill wrote:
1: They're obviously Arabs.
2: If you believe this is the SOLE evidence the FBI has on these two you are an absolute fool. They simply provided these photos of the suspects to the public because it enables the public to identify them and also dispels suspicion from those wrongly accused (as the Post did to that poor high school kid from Morocco.) It's almost certain the FBI has footage or evidence of them leaving the bombs behind directly. At no time did they say ONLY the man in the white hat planted the bombs, they say both men had separate bombs and they both planted them.
Do you honestly believe this short footage clip is the only evidence the FBI has on these two? You're delusional.
I didn't watch the press conference. Did they show footage of the man laying the backpack down where the explosion happened? All I have seen so far is the footage of the men walking and then a distant view of a backpack "smouldering"-- but I haven't seen him actually lay it there. If anyone has a link to that footage, I would like to see it.

Since: Feb 09

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#9 Apr 18, 2013
Bill wrote:
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Hahaha, you do realize there were TWO bombs, correct? They were each carrying a backpack, and each backpack contained a bomb. You keep referring to "The bomb" as if there were only one.
Weren't there more that didn't go off?
Bill

Merrimack, NH

#10 Apr 18, 2013
sONE wrote:
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Weren't there more that didn't go off?
No idea, all I know for a fact is that there were two bombs for certain and two separate explosions in two separate locations somewhat close to eachother within a number of seconds of one another, both triggered by cell phones.

As to the footage you're talking about of them actually planting the bombs - the FBI has said they have the footage (along with other evidence) but are not releasing it to the public as of right now (obviously it makes no sense for them to release all the evidence they're compiling to the public, no law enforcement agency does that until after arrests have been made and suspects tried in court)... they have said those identifying pictures they have released are more than enough for the general public to identify them.

Since: Feb 09

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#11 Apr 18, 2013
Bill wrote:
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Yes, the FBI has stated they have overhwleming evidence, including footage of at least one of them setting the bomb down where it exploded. If anyone believes the FBI would release all evidence they've gathered on the suspects thus far to the public.... well, that's so idiotic I don't know what to think. Anyway, here's what you're talking about:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/boston-blast...
"Other footage, still unreleased, shows that the two suspects stayed at the scene to watch the carnage unfold, a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti.
"When the bombs blow up, when most people are running away and victims were lying on the ground, the two suspects walk away pretty casually," said the official, who has seen the unreleased video. "They acted differently than everyone else," he added.
While video of at least one suspect planting the bomb exists, the FBI had chosen not to release it, according to the official. One reason, according to the official, is that were the media to repeatedly show the suspects leaving the bomb, it might cause some people to overreact if they came into contact with them.
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Oh, OK- I guess I misunderstood that it was actually shown.

Even with enhanced and enlarged photos- it's hard to believe that the people in those images would be easily identifiable in reality. It seems it would only be good enough for someone who actually knows them and might recognize them. I would not feel comfortable enough to "tackle" someone I randomly saw- certain that they were one of the bombers- by going by those photos/film.

Since: Feb 09

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#12 Apr 18, 2013
Bill wrote:
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No idea, all I know for a fact is that there were two bombs for certain and two separate explosions in two separate locations somewhat close to eachother within a number of seconds of one another, both triggered by cell phones.
As to the footage you're talking about of them actually planting the bombs - the FBI has said they have the footage (along with other evidence) but are not releasing it to the public as of right now (obviously it makes no sense for them to release all the evidence they're compiling to the public, no law enforcement agency does that until after arrests have been made and suspects tried in court)... they have said those identifying pictures they have released are more than enough for the general public to identify them.
Well, I will look it up again. I thought it was said that there was something like 2 or 3 others that didn't explode. Of course they were saying a library explosion was a part of it too- then said it wasn't an explosion at the library.
AMF

Delaware, OH

#13 Apr 18, 2013
There were two bombs. Hence, suspect one and suspect two. Each suspect having a bomb equates to two bombs, the number of bombs that detonated.

And somewhere a village...
AMF

Delaware, OH

#15 Apr 18, 2013
By releasing what they did, anyone who has photos may note those two whereas before they didn't or it may be enough to spark someone's memory.

Since: Feb 09

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#16 Apr 18, 2013
I just looked it up- and contrary to very early reports- there was a later press conference where they stated they found no unexploded bombs.

Since: Feb 09

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#17 Apr 18, 2013
AMF wrote:
There were two bombs. Hence, suspect one and suspect two. Each suspect having a bomb equates to two bombs, the number of bombs that detonated.
And somewhere a village...
Are you directing that to me?

Since: Feb 09

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#19 Apr 18, 2013
Two White Crows wrote:
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I have a feeling that the media has it completely wrong here.
THOSE backpacks they were carrying dont mean shytt.
Im sure the idiots will eventually find out that iran was somehow behind this .
Some rogue white guy just doesnt add up although im sure the liberal progressive media wants it to be so just to get the heat off of the arabs who do bomb the living hell out of things and ill cite baghdad as an endless example as well as syria.
Yes, I've read that the msm have been pushing that angle from the beginning (I don't watch the news stations)- and I've read some of it do. One publication just came out and said they hoped it was a White guy.

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#20 Apr 18, 2013
AMF wrote:
There were two bombs. Hence, suspect one and suspect two. Each suspect having a bomb equates to two bombs, the number of bombs that detonated.
And somewhere a village...
So, since this is under my comment and no others seem to "fit" it- you are directing it at me?
AMF

Delaware, OH

#21 Apr 18, 2013
sONE wrote:
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Are you directing that to me?
No. It was directed at the OP who was harping on "the bomb".
Bill

Merrimack, NH

#22 Apr 18, 2013
sONE wrote:
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Oh, OK- I guess I misunderstood that it was actually shown.
Even with enhanced and enlarged photos- it's hard to believe that the people in those images would be easily identifiable in reality. It seems it would only be good enough for someone who actually knows them and might recognize them. I would not feel comfortable enough to "tackle" someone I randomly saw- certain that they were one of the bombers- by going by those photos/film.
Which is precisely why they would choose NOT to release footage of them, say, planting the bombs or casually watching the devastation and then walking away like animals until AFTER they have been apprehended by law enforcement and tried in court. Releasing all visual evidence now would (apart from harming their ongoing case obviously) likely incite the public to such a degree that many jackasses would be tackling random, innocent Middle Eastern people on the street who vaguely resembled those two in that footage.

What the FBI are hoping for is precisely what you just said - someone who knows those two well enough to recognize them immediately and turn them in, not necessarily random members of the public who just happen to spot people who "resemble" them. This was a direct quote from the press event today and this is how the FBI spokesman opened the conference after revealing the images:

"Somebody out there knows these individuals as friends, neighbors, co-workers, or family members of the suspects. Though it may be difficult, the nation is counting on those with information to come forward.”

Since: Feb 09

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#23 Apr 18, 2013
AMF wrote:
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No. It was directed at the OP who was harping on "the bomb".
Oh, I thought I was needed back at the village, lol. I've had a weird week and my comprehension is even worse than usual.

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