A 5 Year old boy kills his 2 Year old...

A 5 Year old boy kills his 2 Year old sister with a riffle !!!

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“Maat's my principle”

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bamako,mali

#1 May 2, 2013
When will we realize that fire arms are to be banned in all civilized society ???

“Maat's my principle”

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bamako,mali

#3 May 3, 2013
CoolMandingo82 wrote:
sad story. we need gun control for real.
The question is ,What can we do as a collective to protect our children from such tragedies ,I mean for real ?

“Maat's my principle”

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bamako,mali

#4 May 3, 2013
NRA executives should be ashamed of feeding their famillies on our children's blood for christ's sake !
Cave mutant crusher

Ann Arbor, MI

#5 May 3, 2013
CoolMandingo82 wrote:
sad story. we need gun control for real.
No we don't the more cave crackers that kill themselves the better.
Truthism

United States

#6 May 3, 2013
dcool wrote:
When will we realize that fire arms are to be banned in all civilized society ???
Civilized society? lol!

This is not a totally "civil" society though, o' silly one, and that's precisely WHY citizens should train and practice with firearms of their own.

There are criminals running everywhere, breaking into homes DAILY with knifes and other weapons, even if not guns, and raping, murdering or torturing others left and right.

Telling citizens to give up their firearms because rare exceptions compared to the rule abuse those firearms in crimes in incompetent acts, would be as idiotic as telling our government to give up its military in light of another government abusing their military around the world... o' silly one. So now our nation should be totally defenseless because of some other criminal government abusing their military... o' silly one?

We don't blame firearms. We blame the parent(s) for leaving their rifle out without first teaching their child(ren) how to use it properly at a certain age; to teach their child that it should not be pointed at anyone else except for an animal they'd hunt in the woods (when the father teaches them later on); show them that this is no toy and then they can even test the kid when the gun is empty and the parents will go in another room, then spy on the kid and see if the kid goes toward the gun, or stays away just like the parents taught them.

Lock the guns up until the kid is ready, after test, trial and error has proven them to be.

It's irresponsible parenting which leads to disasters like this, not guns themselves.

But if you want to ban guns from every private citizen based upon the few incompetent or criminal ones, then we must ban weaponry from all government because of the criminality and incompetence they've *clearly* shown throughout history AND today, and how they blatantly infringed upon others' rights and lives with that weaponry and power given to them.

So if you protest to ban from citizens, then protest to ban all weaponry from government at the same time... unless you're an inconsistent, two-faced hypocrite who doesn't genuinely care about the 'safety' you proclaim to be for.

Incompetent people abuse many weapons all the time, from knives, to vehicles (cars, trucks, vans, planes, etc.) yet I wonder if you're for banning those as well?

More people die every year from car crashes than they do from gun violence (even with self-defense gun deaths, which are totally justified in nature so as to protect the innocent)!

You're a pawn being used by the criminal elite fascists who want total control over us... and you don't even realize it? Or are you a propagandist who intentionally does seek to help the criminals within the fascist government eventually gain total control over us in the guise of "public safety"?

Either way, you're going about this the wrong way. I wonder if you're aware of how much you're embarrassing yourself right now in front of those with logical and intelligent minds, who have the ability to pick apart the real problem at hand, not be a simpleton who demonizes the tool, not the incompetent parents or criminal minds hold said 'tool' to commit their crimes?
Harry Hampton

Phoenix, AZ

#7 May 3, 2013
A 5 Year old boy kills his 2 Year old sister with a riffle !!!

Exactly how does one go about killing someone else with a "riffle"????

Since: May 12

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#8 May 3, 2013
Truthism wrote:
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Civilized society? lol!
This is not a totally "civil" society though, o' silly one, and that's precisely WHY citizens should train and practice with firearms of their own.
There are criminals running everywhere, breaking into homes DAILY with knifes and other weapons, even if not guns, and raping, murdering or torturing others left and right.
Telling citizens to give up their firearms because rare exceptions compared to the rule abuse those firearms in crimes in incompetent acts, would be as idiotic as telling our government to give up its military in light of another government abusing their military around the world... o' silly one. So now our nation should be totally defenseless because of some other criminal government abusing their military... o' silly one?
We don't blame firearms. We blame the parent(s) for leaving their rifle out without first teaching their child(ren) how to use it properly at a certain age; to teach their child that it should not be pointed at anyone else except for an animal they'd hunt in the woods (when the father teaches them later on); show them that this is no toy and then they can even test the kid when the gun is empty and the parents will go in another room, then spy on the kid and see if the kid goes toward the gun, or stays away just like the parents taught them.
Lock the guns up until the kid is ready, after test, trial and error has proven them to be.
It's irresponsible parenting which leads to disasters like this, not guns themselves.
But if you want to ban guns from every private citizen based upon the few incompetent or criminal ones, then we must ban weaponry from all government because of the criminality and incompetence they've *clearly* shown throughout history AND today, and how they blatantly infringed upon others' rights and lives with that weaponry and power given to them.
So if you protest to ban from citizens, then protest to ban all weaponry from government at the same time... unless you're an inconsistent, two-faced hypocrite who doesn't genuinely care about the 'safety' you proclaim to be for.
Incompetent people abuse many weapons all the time, from knives, to vehicles (cars, trucks, vans, planes, etc.) yet I wonder if you're for banning those as well?
More people die every year from car crashes than they do from gun violence (even with self-defense gun deaths, which are totally justified in nature so as to protect the innocent)!
You're a pawn being used by the criminal elite fascists who want total control over us... and you don't even realize it? Or are you a propagandist who intentionally does seek to help the criminals within the fascist government eventually gain total control over us in the guise of "public safety"?
Either way, you're going about this the wrong way. I wonder if you're aware of how much you're embarrassing yourself right now in front of those with logical and intelligent minds, who have the ability to pick apart the real problem at hand, not be a simpleton who demonizes the tool, not the incompetent parents or criminal minds hold said 'tool' to commit their crimes?
Why would you live in a society that you feel makes having a gun neccesary, when there are many societies in the world where people feel no need to have a gun?
That's what I don't understand... why would you willingly have and raise your children in such a place, when you know many other children are raised in countries where the citizens are horrified by your gun laws.
If you need a gun in America but not in Canada... why the FCK don't you move to Canada????

Since: May 12

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#9 May 3, 2013
dcool wrote:
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The question is ,What can we do as a collective to protect our children from such tragedies ,I mean for real ?
Your gun laws and all your police being armed with guns and able to shoot citizens.. is probably considered the worse thing about your culture to outsiders.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#10 May 3, 2013
Truthism wrote:
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Civilized society? lol!
This is not a totally "civil" society though, o' silly one, and that's precisely WHY citizens should train and practice with firearms of their own.
There are criminals running everywhere, breaking into homes DAILY with knifes and other weapons, even if not guns, and raping, murdering or torturing others left and right.
Telling citizens to give up their firearms because rare exceptions compared to the rule abuse those firearms in crimes in incompetent acts, would be as idiotic as telling our government to give up its military in light of another government abusing their military around the world... o' silly one. So now our nation should be totally defenseless because of some other criminal government abusing their military... o' silly one?
We don't blame firearms. We blame the parent(s) for leaving their rifle out without first teaching their child(ren) how to use it properly at a certain age; to teach their child that it should not be pointed at anyone else except for an animal they'd hunt in the woods (when the father teaches them later on); show them that this is no toy and then they can even test the kid when the gun is empty and the parents will go in another room, then spy on the kid and see if the kid goes toward the gun, or stays away just like the parents taught them.
Lock the guns up until the kid is ready, after test, trial and error has proven them to be.
It's irresponsible parenting which leads to disasters like this, not guns themselves.
But if you want to ban guns from every private citizen based upon the few incompetent or criminal ones, then we must ban weaponry from all government because of the criminality and incompetence they've *clearly* shown throughout history AND today, and how they blatantly infringed upon others' rights and lives with that weaponry and power given to them.
So if you protest to ban from citizens, then protest to ban all weaponry from government at the same time... unless you're an inconsistent, two-faced hypocrite who doesn't genuinely care about the 'safety' you proclaim to be for.
Incompetent people abuse many weapons all the time, from knives, to vehicles (cars, trucks, vans, planes, etc.) yet I wonder if you're for banning those as well?
More people die every year from car crashes than they do from gun violence (even with self-defense gun deaths, which are totally justified in nature so as to protect the innocent)!
You're a pawn being used by the criminal elite fascists who want total control over us... and you don't even realize it? Or are you a propagandist who intentionally does seek to help the criminals within the fascist government eventually gain total control over us in the guise of "public safety"?
Either way, you're going about this the wrong way. I wonder if you're aware of how much you're embarrassing yourself right now in front of those with logical and intelligent minds, who have the ability to pick apart the real problem at hand, not be a simpleton who demonizes the tool, not the incompetent parents or criminal minds hold said 'tool' to commit their crimes?
The fact that your police and so many citizens have guns, gives the impression to everybody, including YOU, that your society is dangerous and unsafe.
It's a vicious circle, only in a dangerous uncivilized criminal country would everybody need to have a gun... yet you believe without you all having easy access to guns, your society would be dangerous and uncivilized.
Truthism

United States

#11 May 4, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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The fact that your police and so many citizens have guns, gives the impression to everybody, including YOU, that your society is dangerous and unsafe.
It's a vicious circle, only in a dangerous uncivilized criminal country would everybody need to have a gun... yet you believe without you all having easy access to guns, your society would be dangerous and uncivilized.
You need to learn the history of this nation and why its founders (or many of them) wanted the people as a whole armed for their protection; it wasn't just for hunting or even just for protection against a couple of criminals breaking into their house to steal stuff. Then you'll understand this issue is not so 'black and white' as you might want to make it.

Since: May 12

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#12 May 4, 2013
Truthism wrote:
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You need to learn the history of this nation and why its founders (or many of them) wanted the people as a whole armed for their protection; it wasn't just for hunting or even just for protection against a couple of criminals breaking into their house to steal stuff. Then you'll understand this issue is not so 'black and white' as you might want to make it.
Slavery was legal in your country for hundreds of years, you got past that.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#13 May 4, 2013
Truthism wrote:
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You need to learn the history of this nation and why its founders (or many of them) wanted the people as a whole armed for their protection; it wasn't just for hunting or even just for protection against a couple of criminals breaking into their house to steal stuff. Then you'll understand this issue is not so 'black and white' as you might want to make it.
How do you feel about a young white guy being a rookie cop and being allowed to walk around you communities carrying a loaded gun?
The guy might only be have become a qualified police enforcement officer for a WEEK! and he would be allowed to patrol the streets of your black communities WITH A GUN!
It's MADNESS!!!
Truthism

United States

#14 May 4, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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How do you feel about a young white guy being a rookie cop and being allowed to walk around you communities carrying a loaded gun?
The guy might only be have become a qualified police enforcement officer for a WEEK! and he would be allowed to patrol the streets of your black communities WITH A GUN!
It's MADNESS!!!
I am around many people who carry firearms all the time; I'm totally fine with it.

I don't live in a 'black community' though. I'm not African-American, either.
Beetlejuice

Fremont, CA

#15 May 4, 2013
Truthism wrote:
I don't live in a 'black community' though. I'm not African-American, either.
obviously
Harry Hampon

Houston, TX

#16 May 4, 2013
I guess I missed the thread the blacks made to express their shame and disappointment over the murder of 16 year old Hadiya Pendleton in Chicago at the hands of a black male. You remember, the black girl who was invited to Obama's inauguration and two weeks later cut down with a shower of bullets.

Or just maybe the blacks swept it under the rug like they do all their crimes.

Yeah, that sounds more plausible.
reality speaks

Dubai, UAE

#17 May 4, 2013
dFOOLl wrote:
When will we realize that fire arms are to be banned in all civilized society ???
Switzerland has about the lowest murder and crime rate in the world, it also has amongst the smallest Negro populations. Coincidence?

Also, Switzerland has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world, at least a third of households have assault rifles and ammunition, they are required to do so by law as the country has a very small standing army.

So, why does Switzerland, a predominantly WHITE society with over 33% assault gun ownership, have less gun crime than other countries?

In the US around 50% of all murders are committed with illegal handguns, no gun legislation is going to take them off the street.

Also, in the US, MORE people are murdered by kicking and punching or stabbing than are murdered by assault rifles.

Should we ban fists, feet and all knives too?

The whole thing is knee-jerk by liberals and an attack on our freedom and right to defend ourselves.

The whole rifle debate is taking attention away from the real dangers, illegal handguns, knives and beatings.
erm

Dubai, UAE

#18 May 4, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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How do you feel about a young white guy being a rookie cop and being allowed to walk around you communities carrying a loaded gun?
The guy might only be have become a qualified police enforcement officer for a WEEK! and he would be allowed to patrol the streets of your black communities WITH A GUN!
It's MADNESS!!!
Your implication being that a black newly recruited police officer would be fine to patrol the same area?

Isn't that racist?

Doesn't that also contradict the reality that 9 of 10 murdered blacks are murdered by fellow blacks, statistically, the blacks in the neighborhood are safer from the White rookie than they are from their own community or black police officer.

Logic is not your strong point is it?
Jone1

Los Angeles, CA

#19 May 4, 2013
reality speaks wrote:
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Switzerland has about the lowest murder and crime rate in the world, it also has amongst the smallest Negro populations. Coincidence?
Also, Switzerland has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world, at least a third of households have assault rifles and ammunition, they are required to do so by law as the country has a very small standing army.
So, why does Switzerland, a predominantly WHITE society with over 33% assault gun ownership, have less gun crime than other countries?
In the US around 50% of all murders are committed with illegal handguns, no gun legislation is going to take them off the street.
Also, in the US, MORE people are murdered by kicking and punching or stabbing than are murdered by assault rifles.
Should we ban fists, feet and all knives too?
The whole thing is knee-jerk by liberals and an attack on our freedom and right to defend ourselves.
The whole rifle debate is taking attention away from the real dangers, illegal handguns, knives and beatings.
That post ranks up there with the top ten dumbest posts on Topix AA.

How many mass murders were committed in schools, malls and movie theaters by feet, knives, beatings and fists?

ZERO!

I'm surprised you didn't pull out the retarded, "let's ban cars" excuse, because more people get killed in auto accidents than by guns.

I can tell you are a puppet, ditto head for the republican party.
Truthism

United States

#20 May 4, 2013
Jone1 wrote:
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That post ranks up there with the top ten dumbest posts on Topix AA.
How many mass murders were committed in schools, malls and movie theaters by feet, knives, beatings and fists?
ZERO!
I'm surprised you didn't pull out the retarded, "let's ban cars" excuse, because more people get killed in auto accidents than by guns.
I can tell you are a puppet, ditto head for the republican party.
How many people were intelligent enough to arm themselves in those specific schools, malls and movie theaters in order to take down those mass murderers?

ZERO!

Criminals know, that if no one else has a gun to defend themselves with, then a gun in the criminals' hand will make killing the easiest compared to knives, so of course they're going to use guns!

Why didn't those mass-murderers target POLICE STATIONS!?

Oh yeah, because POLICE are ARMED with their OWN guns!

Wow! What a concept, Sherlock! 8-D

The imbalance of power [concerning unarmed private citizens and armed criminals] is what screws things up; whether they chose to disarm themselves, all thanks to heavy brainwashing, fear-mongering and 'demonization' of firearms in the media, schools, government, etc.

Or the incompetent, dimwitted government laws which tell teachers and other workers in schools that they cannot carry firearms in these "no gun zones," among other places the incompetent (and/or criminal) government makes laws that tell people they cannot carry firearms for their protection?

And what absolute numbskull would think the OUTLAW criminals would LISTEN to these "laws" as well?

So the IMBALANCE of power was created and it screwed things up... as usual.

As for knife-rampages? They do happen somewhat often in countries over in East Asia, as I've randomly heard of them over the years; I'm sure they happen in many parts of the world which don't show up in our news agencies when they happen.

Criminals seek the biggest, sharpest or most effective weapon they can get their hands on, obviously, and when those criminals only have those weapons, yet the sheeple citizens choose not to arm themselves with weapons, then those criminals (with bully mindsets) will take advantage of the situation.

Imagine lions 'de-clawing' themselves on the plains of Africa, even in light of them knowing of other lions keeping their claws? They'd be quite clueless for doing such a thing. It's their fault, if they did it by 100% choice.
Truthism

United States

#21 May 4, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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Slavery was legal in your country for hundreds of years, you got past that.
And what does that have to do with anything concerning firearms, and people using them so as to protect their lives and liberties on an individual basis?

Slavery was harming individual life and liberty.

Guns, in innocent citizens' hands, are used to help protect life and liberty.

Two very different things in comparison.

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