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Randy

Reunion

#1 Dec 10, 2007
I am a Black American living and working in NE Thailand for nearly 6 months. I have had the priviledge of experiencing its rich culture. The Thai people, by and large, I find to be polite and very friendly. A lesson, incidently, many cultures of the world should emulate. I really love the Thai people. Personally, I am a good person. I do not use profanity, I eat and drink in moderation, I am intelligent, considerate and sensitive to the feelings of others, responsible, take good care of myself physically, and many here consider me "handsome". Yet, I sense among many Thai women a distaste for Black men as if we are diseased or something. I have seen many Thai women with White Farang , some who disrepectfully treat them like sex slaves. These women do not look happy. In fairness, I do see couples who are happy. In my work place I am responsible for a large staff of Thai employees who I know respect me for the person that I am. Yes, I am attracted to Thai women because I like their attitude and ability to separate "service" verses "servitude." Yet, I feel that my skin color becomes a stumbling block to many Thai women because I am not what they are looking for. The preference is White men. I am I wrong in my assessment? If this is true, what a shame. Discrimination and racism runs rampant in the world and it amazes me that people still refuse to look past the skin-color barrier. If one peels away a layer of clothing one finds flesh. Peel away a layer of flesh, one finds blood, bone, fat, and muscle. We are all the same at this level. What needs to change is our view of each other. This begins with exercsing the muscle between our ears...the brain. It is wrong for one race of mankind to station itself as "gods gift to the planet" and the other "dark-skinned" races do things to change there appearance to look like them. What has happened to pride in the race that bred us. I for one am proud of who I am. I admire those who feel the same about their heritage as well. Oneof my goals while living here inThailand is to learn the language and meet a Thai female companion who would not be ashamed to be seen with me. One who has the courage to be different and one who realizes that skin-color is something that none of us who live on this planet had a choice in selecting. One who sees the beyond that. One who sees the heart which is the window to the soul of a person.

My intent is not to offend anyone, but to understand where I stand, as a Black American in this beautiful country, concerning relationships with Thai women.
Randy

Reunion

#2 Dec 10, 2007
Randy wrote:
I am a Black American living and working in NE Thailand for nearly 6 months. I have had the priviledge of experiencing its rich culture. The Thai people, by and large, I find to be polite and very friendly. A lesson, incidently, many cultures of the world should emulate. I really love the Thai people. Personally, I am a good person. I do not use profanity, I eat and drink in moderation, I am intelligent, considerate and sensitive to the feelings of others, responsible, take good care of myself physically, and many here consider me "handsome". Yet, I sense among many Thai women a distaste for Black men as if we are diseased or something. I have seen many Thai women with White Farang , some who disrepectfully treat them like sex slaves. These women do not look happy. In fairness, I do see couples who are happy. In my work place I am responsible for a large staff of Thai employees who I know respect me for the person that I am. Yes, I am attracted to Thai women because I like their attitude and ability to separate "service" verses "servitude." Yet, I feel that my skin color becomes a stumbling block to many Thai women because I am not what they are looking for. The preference is White men. I am I wrong in my assessment? If this is true, what a shame. Discrimination and racism runs rampant in the world and it amazes me that people still refuse to look past the skin-color barrier. If one peels away a layer of clothing one finds flesh. Peel away a layer of flesh, one finds blood, bone, fat, and muscle. We are all the same at this level. What needs to change is our view of each other. This begins with exercsing the muscle between our ears...the brain. It is wrong for one race of mankind to station itself as "gods gift to the planet" and the other "dark-skinned" races do things to change there appearance to look like them. What has happened to pride in the race that bred us. I for one am proud of who I am. I admire those who feel the same about their heritage as well. Oneof my goals while living here inThailand is to learn the language and meet a Thai female companion who would not be ashamed to be seen with me. One who has the courage to be different and one who realizes that skin-color is something that none of us who live on this planet had a choice in selecting. One who sees the beyond that. One who sees the heart which is the window to the soul of a person.
My intent is not to offend anyone, but to understand where I stand, as a Black American in this beautiful country, concerning relationships with Thai women.
ps : i'm work bangkok ..but i'm on holiday at the reunion island ..

Since: Oct 07

AOL

#3 Dec 10, 2007
Randy wrote:
I am a Black American living and working in NE Thailand for nearly 6 months. I have had the priviledge of experiencing its rich culture. The Thai people, by and large, I find to be polite and very friendly. A lesson, incidently, many cultures of the world should emulate. I really love the Thai people. Personally, I am a good person. I do not use profanity, I eat and drink in moderation, I am intelligent, considerate and sensitive to the feelings of others, responsible, take good care of myself physically, and many here consider me "handsome". Yet, I sense among many Thai women a distaste for Black men as if we are diseased or something. I have seen many Thai women with White Farang , some who disrepectfully treat them like sex slaves. These women do not look happy. In fairness, I do see couples who are happy. In my work place I am responsible for a large staff of Thai employees who I know respect me for the person that I am. Yes, I am attracted to Thai women because I like their attitude and ability to separate "service" verses "servitude." Yet, I feel that my skin color becomes a stumbling block to many Thai women because I am not what they are looking for. The preference is White men. I am I wrong in my assessment? If this is true, what a shame. Discrimination and racism runs rampant in the world and it amazes me that people still refuse to look past the skin-color barrier. If one peels away a layer of clothing one finds flesh. Peel away a layer of flesh, one finds blood, bone, fat, and muscle. We are all the same at this level. What needs to change is our view of each other. This begins with exercsing the muscle between our ears...the brain. It is wrong for one race of mankind to station itself as "gods gift to the planet" and the other "dark-skinned" races do things to change there appearance to look like them. What has happened to pride in the race that bred us. I for one am proud of who I am. I admire those who feel the same about their heritage as well. Oneof my goals while living here inThailand is to learn the language and meet a Thai female companion who would not be ashamed to be seen with me. One who has the courage to be different and one who realizes that skin-color is something that none of us who live on this planet had a choice in selecting. One who sees the beyond that. One who sees the heart which is the window to the soul of a person.
My intent is not to offend anyone, but to understand where I stand, as a Black American in this beautiful country, concerning relationships with Thai women.
Hi Randy,

Sorry to hear of your misfortune in Thailand! I believe that you are a victim of anti-black man propaganda that a lot of white men put out there to destroy the image of the black men. From your post, you seem to be an educated successful black man. Funny, there are a lot of successful educated black men but we wouldn’t hear about their success only the failures of the unsuccessful ones. This anti-black man propaganda as reduced the social status of black men all over the world. So no matter where you live, you will still be affected by the white perception of black people. It first started within the white community and then it started to spread into other cultures. Therefore, they tell their women to stay away from black men. Occasionally, you will find one that will date black men but its rare. I would first start by asking the ones you work with why they don’t date black men and then you should get the feel of what the climate is like. Peace and good luck.

Since: Oct 07

AOL

#4 Dec 10, 2007
Hi Randy,

Go to this website and read the article as an example of the anti-black man propaganda.

http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/U/...

When dating outside your race, we have to prove all the stereotypes wrong before they feel comfortable with giving us a chance. Just my thoughts.....what do you think?

“In the Space Love Demands”

Since: Oct 07

Black Love USA

#6 Dec 10, 2007
Randy wrote:
I am a Black American living and working in NE Thailand for nearly 6 months. I have had the priviledge of experiencing its rich culture. The Thai people, by and large, I find to be polite and very friendly. A lesson, incidently, many cultures of the world should emulate. I really love the Thai people. Personally, I am a good person. I do not use profanity, I eat and drink in moderation, I am intelligent, considerate and sensitive to the feelings of others, responsible, take good care of myself physically, and many here consider me "handsome". Yet, I sense among many Thai women a distaste for Black men as if we are diseased or something. I have seen many Thai women with White Farang , some who disrepectfully treat them like sex slaves. These women do not look happy. In fairness, I do see couples who are happy. In my work place I am responsible for a large staff of Thai employees who I know respect me for the person that I am. Yes, I am attracted to Thai women because I like their attitude and ability to separate "service" verses "servitude." Yet, I feel that my skin color becomes a stumbling block to many Thai women because I am not what they are looking for. The preference is White men. I am I wrong in my assessment? If this is true, what a shame. Discrimination and racism runs rampant in the world and it amazes me that people still refuse to look past the skin-color barrier. If one peels away a layer of clothing one finds flesh. Peel away a layer of flesh, one finds blood, bone, fat, and muscle. We are all the same at this level. What needs to change is our view of each other. This begins with exercsing the muscle between our ears...the brain. It is wrong for one race of mankind to station itself as "gods gift to the planet" and the other "dark-skinned" races do things to change there appearance to look like them. What has happened to pride in the race that bred us. I for one am proud of who I am. I admire those who feel the same about their heritage as well. Oneof my goals while living here inThailand is to learn the language and meet a Thai female companion who would not be ashamed to be seen with me. One who has the courage to be different and one who realizes that skin-color is something that none of us who live on this planet had a choice in selecting. One who sees the beyond that. One who sees the heart which is the window to the soul of a person.
My intent is not to offend anyone, but to understand where I stand, as a Black American in this beautiful country, concerning relationships with Thai women.
I lived in Thailand for about a year. 3 of my roommates in college were Thai and that is what made this happen.

Certainly you could find someone in Pattaya (not just a bar girl but some other girls too)LOL

I don't know about Chiang Mai. Maybe try a country girl?

It is good that you will go out of your way to get a Thai wife but it is interesting that men feel wronged when they have to make an effort to get an American wife, especially a Black one.

The Thai language is not that difficult to master (well pronunciation is) if you have an English speaking background.

Thais do not use ideograms as in Japanese or Chinese, but "letters".

How do mean "service" versus "servitude"?

Good luck.
eric

Reunion

#7 Dec 10, 2007
I am a Black french and married with thai women ... who has lived in Thailand for years - yes, Isaan, too. I speak Thai, understand some Isaan, and the whole nine yards. Let me put it to you this way (phoenetically):

phoot trong-trong, nah? khon yer kit-wa phom ben khee-nok, rue phom ben khaek. took-tee tee mung thai. tae, mai hai-doo. jah hai yim yai, phoot swasdee soo-pahp, lair nintah phom. mai-shai took-khon, tae paw eek.

Translated: Speaking truthfully, right? Many people think I am piss-poor, or I am a (very derogatory word). Everywhere in Thailand. But not show it. Will give a big smile, say hello politely, and then gossip about me. Not everyone, but more than enough.

That's many, certainly not all. The 80/20 rule applies in Thailand just as everywhere. 80% of the people will be against you. 20% of the people will be with you. Surround yourself with the 20%, and your life is bliss. Step outside that bubble and you encounter the bigotry.

I say screw the 80%- find and befriend the 20%.
eric

Reunion

#8 Dec 10, 2007
re :
A Thai stereotype: black skin means you work in the paddy fields and are poor; white means you don't need to work in the sun, and aren't poor.

Thais can be quite racist; I think some of this comes from stereo type impressions that they have about different races, and lack of proper education about other cultures and also lack of equality in Thai society (is this getting deep?). Also, many Thais probably don't realise that you can get, for example, black Americans, and think that all black people are from Africa. Also, quite a lot of black people from African countries have been involved in criminal activities in Thailand (Nigerian scams, etc), which also gives blacks bad press in the media. Also, many Thais haven't had a good education (bar girls in red light districts?), although generally most young Thais in school now are quite well educated.

However, I had a friend from Senegal who studied in Bangkok; he said he had good experiences in Thailand, and found the people to be very friendly and interested in him. He would have spent a lot of time with educated Thais/students, so his experiences may be different to someone mixing with less educated Thais/country Thais. He was very well educated.

Gosh, I can see this could get to be a really deep discussion! Hope I haven't offended anyone; its always difficult talking about racism.
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angelo

New York, NY

#9 Dec 10, 2007
MOG3065 wrote:
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Hi Randy,
Sorry to hear of your misfortune in Thailand! I believe that you are a victim of anti-black man propaganda that a lot of white men put out there to destroy the image of the black men. From your post, you seem to be an educated successful black man. Funny, there are a lot of successful educated black men but we wouldn’t hear about their success only the failures of the unsuccessful ones. This anti-black man propaganda as reduced the social status of black men all over the world. So no matter where you live, you will still be affected by the white perception of black people. It first started within the white community and then it started to spread into other cultures. Therefore, they tell their women to stay away from black men. Occasionally, you will find one that will date black men but its rare. I would first start by asking the ones you work with why they don’t date black men and then you should get the feel of what the climate is like. Peace and good luck.
a victim of anti black propoganda against the black man? LMAO I now have heard it all on this forum. talk about a crutch
eric

Reunion

#10 Dec 10, 2007
Randy wrote:
I am a Black American living and working in NE Thailand for nearly 6 months. I have had the priviledge of experiencing its rich culture. The Thai people, by and large, I find to be polite and very friendly. A lesson, incidently, many cultures of the world should emulate. I really love the Thai people. Personally, I am a good person. I do not use profanity, I eat and drink in moderation, I am intelligent, considerate and sensitive to the feelings of others, responsible, take good care of myself physically, and many here consider me "handsome". Yet, I sense among many Thai women a distaste for Black men as if we are diseased or something. I have seen many Thai women with White Farang , some who disrepectfully treat them like sex slaves. These women do not look happy. In fairness, I do see couples who are happy. In my work place I am responsible for a large staff of Thai employees who I know respect me for the person that I am. Yes, I am attracted to Thai women because I like their attitude and ability to separate "service" verses "servitude." Yet, I feel that my skin color becomes a stumbling block to many Thai women because I am not what they are looking for. The preference is White men. I am I wrong in my assessment? If this is true, what a shame. Discrimination and racism runs rampant in the world and it amazes me that people still refuse to look past the skin-color barrier. If one peels away a layer of clothing one finds flesh. Peel away a layer of flesh, one finds blood, bone, fat, and muscle. We are all the same at this level. What needs to change is our view of each other. This begins with exercsing the muscle between our ears...the brain. It is wrong for one race of mankind to station itself as "gods gift to the planet" and the other "dark-skinned" races do things to change there appearance to look like them. What has happened to pride in the race that bred us. I for one am proud of who I am. I admire those who feel the same about their heritage as well. Oneof my goals while living here inThailand is to learn the language and meet a Thai female companion who would not be ashamed to be seen with me. One who has the courage to be different and one who realizes that skin-color is something that none of us who live on this planet had a choice in selecting. One who sees the beyond that. One who sees the heart which is the window to the soul of a person.
My intent is not to offend anyone, but to understand where I stand, as a Black American in this beautiful country, concerning relationships with Thai women.
good luck randy ..Good holiday at reunion island

bye
thierry

Reunion

#11 Dec 10, 2007
Thai people are generally racist towards employing black people definately, but it's not on a personal level
vita

Saint-denis, Reunion

#12 Dec 24, 2007
The issue of Thai women wanting whiter skin is not an issue of racism. This wanting is based on a definition of beauty and women’s attempt to become beautiful or attractive. I have encountered the same attempts to whiten skin in Brazil, India, Vietnam, and Africa.

However, I fully agree with Hans – although I from your name take it that you are not a WASP – that Thais are racists. And they are open about it; although rarely to the ones that are the targets.

There is an old Thai saying that goes something like “If you an Indian and a snake crosses your path, deal with (or kill) the Indian first” as, supposedly, they are more slippery and untrustworthy than snakes.
Such prejudices are still alive against Arabs, Africans, Indians, and others that are not Caucasian or Oriental.

One of the times I lived in Bangkok was during 1997 – a time of crisis. The landlord decided to fill some empty rooms in the apartment building with African tenants. This resulted in a lot of talk among – and complaints from - the Thai tenants. They soon decided to vote with their feet and they left in droves.

Among the girls free-lancing at night in Bangkok, there is also a severe reluctance to accept African, African-American or Arab customers. Me being Caucasian, the girls would quite openly tell me their purely racist reasons to such reluctance and talk derisively about the few girls who’d accept to go with dark customers.

“aswad rajul min amerika”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#13 Dec 24, 2007
I think this Asian prejudice against dark skinned people probably started under Colonialism by the Europeans. The Europeans colonized much of Asia(from India to China) they spread their white supeamacy beliefs to all the people they conqured.
In countries like Japan and China you have women who have surgery to change their noses and eyes to appear more caucasian. Is this self hatred to the max or what.
citizen d

United States

#14 Dec 24, 2007
it is probably a stereotype against black american people period...

they are more than likely taught about the black american culture in a negative light...

i think they are lead to believe that a black american will bring them to the usa, force them to live in the black community, and teach their children to be black people and deny all ties to their asian ethnicity and thai nationality...

even here, asian american women are warned not to let the black men slum us down...
Kick

Charleston, SC

#15 Dec 24, 2007
Black people are constantly earning and deserve their reputation, and their stereotypes.
Home

Downey, CA

#17 Feb 12, 2008
This is not only happen for black people, but also white. Thai people tend to have traditional to against inter-race marriage. Thailand never been colonized, and they so proud about it and think foreigners are nothing but money bags.
silverado

Sheffield, UK

#18 Feb 13, 2008
Yup. I knew it would turn out to be Whitey's fault... Lol
MOG3065 wrote:
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Hi Randy,
Sorry to hear of your misfortune in Thailand! I believe that you are a victim of anti-black man propaganda that a lot of white men put out there to destroy the image of the black men. From your post, you seem to be an educated successful black man. Funny, there are a lot of successful educated black men but we wouldn’t hear about their success only the failures of the unsuccessful ones. This anti-black man propaganda as reduced the social status of black men all over the world. So no matter where you live, you will still be affected by the white perception of black people. It first started within the white community and then it started to spread into other cultures. Therefore, they tell their women to stay away from black men. Occasionally, you will find one that will date black men but its rare. I would first start by asking the ones you work with why they don’t date black men and then you should get the feel of what the climate is like. Peace and good luck.

Since: Oct 07

AOL

#20 Feb 22, 2008
Coming to this site I have heard a lot about Asian women not wanting black men. I believe that there are a lot of Asian women that will date black men. Although it not common there are some that will. I found a great website for finding Asians that will date Black men. And you will be surprised at how many hot asian chicks that are interested in black men. It's the best Asian site that I have found.
http://japaneselifestyle.worldfriends.tv/publ...

Since: Oct 07

AOL

#21 Feb 22, 2008
Randy wrote:
I am a Black American living and working in NE Thailand for nearly 6 months. I have had the priviledge of experiencing its rich culture. The Thai people, by and large, I find to be polite and very friendly. A lesson, incidently, many cultures of the world should emulate. I really love the Thai people. Personally, I am a good person. I do not use profanity, I eat and drink in moderation, I am intelligent, considerate and sensitive to the feelings of others, responsible, take good care of myself physically, and many here consider me "handsome". Yet, I sense among many Thai women a distaste for Black men as if we are diseased or something. I have seen many Thai women with White Farang , some who disrepectfully treat them like sex slaves. These women do not look happy. In fairness, I do see couples who are happy. In my work place I am responsible for a large staff of Thai employees who I know respect me for the person that I am. Yes, I am attracted to Thai women because I like their attitude and ability to separate "service" verses "servitude." Yet, I feel that my skin color becomes a stumbling block to many Thai women because I am not what they are looking for. The preference is White men. I am I wrong in my assessment? If this is true, what a shame. Discrimination and racism runs rampant in the world and it amazes me that people still refuse to look past the skin-color barrier. If one peels away a layer of clothing one finds flesh. Peel away a layer of flesh, one finds blood, bone, fat, and muscle. We are all the same at this level. What needs to change is our view of each other. This begins with exercsing the muscle between our ears...the brain. It is wrong for one race of mankind to station itself as "gods gift to the planet" and the other "dark-skinned" races do things to change there appearance to look like them. What has happened to pride in the race that bred us. I for one am proud of who I am. I admire those who feel the same about their heritage as well. Oneof my goals while living here inThailand is to learn the language and meet a Thai female companion who would not be ashamed to be seen with me. One who has the courage to be different and one who realizes that skin-color is something that none of us who live on this planet had a choice in selecting. One who sees the beyond that. One who sees the heart which is the window to the soul of a person.
My intent is not to offend anyone, but to understand where I stand, as a Black American in this beautiful country, concerning relationships with Thai women.
Hi Randy,

Check out this website and search Thailand for a lady that is interested in dating black men. It free to sign up and search the profiles. I am addicted to the website Good luck. http://japaneselifestyle.worldfriends.tv/publ...
Mr Yakub

San Diego, CA

#22 Feb 22, 2008
MOG3065 wrote:
Coming to this site I have heard a lot about Asian women not wanting black men. I believe that there are a lot of Asian women that will date black men. Although it not common there are some that will. I found a great website for finding Asians that will date Black men. And you will be surprised at how many hot asian chicks that are interested in black men. It's the best Asian site that I have found.
http://japaneselifestyle.worldfriends.tv/publ...
If you visit San Diego you will meet many beautiful Asian women (filipina, thai, lao, vietnamese, korean)who date and marry black men.
THAI

Bangkok, Thailand

#23 Mar 18, 2008
Welcome to Thailand !!!
Thai people does'nt judge people by their skin
but judge by their behaviour

Hope u enjoy Thailand

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