UFO abductions ALIENS or secret government??

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Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#1 Feb 23, 2013
Many people belive the ufo agenda is a cover-up for top secret human operations involving abducting people for military experiments.
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any function (or job) that the programmer wishes to"install". Each alter personality created is separate and distinct from the front personality. The 'front personality' is unaware of the existence or activities of the alter personalities. Alter personalities can be brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes, usually stored in a laptop computer. The victim of mind control can also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as triggers.

The second phase of mind control development was refined at an underground base below Fort Hero on Montauk , Long Island (New York) and is referred to as the Montauk Project. The earliest adolescent victims of Montauk style programming, so called Montauk Boys, were programmed using trauma-based techniques, but that method was eventually abandoned in favor of an all-electronic induction process which could be "installed" in a matter of days (or even hours) instead of the many years that it took to complete

trauma-based methods.

Dr. Joseph Mengele of Auschwitz notoriety was the principle developer of the trauma-basedMonarch Project and the CIA'sMK Ultra mind control programs. Mengele and approximately 5, 000 other high ranking Nazis were secretly moved into the United States and South America in the aftermath of World War II in an Operation designated Paperclip. The Nazis continued their work in developing mind control and rocketry technologies in secret underground military bases. The only thing we were told about was the rocketry work with former Nazi star celebrities like Warner Von Braun. The killers, torturers, and mutilators of innocent human beings were kept discretely out of sight, but busy in U.S. underground military facilities which gradually became home to thousands upon thousands of kidnapped American children snatched off the streets (about one million per year) and placed into iron bar cages stacked from floor to ceiling as part of the 'training"
Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#2 Feb 23, 2013
In the Third World, many people from these First World countries commonly encounter "organ removal" panics. Rumors have spread like wildfire that "private groups"(C-IA?) in Guatemala are kidnapping small children and "harvesting" their organs for transplants. The similarity between these panics and UFO abductions should also be fairly obvious....

The Center For Missing and Exploited Children (run by the government for spin control) estimates that 300,000 children are missing each year. This number could be much, much higher and probably is. Over ten years that's 30 million children. That is a lot of food and harvested bodies for "aliens"don't you think? Over 30 years, that's 90 million!
Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#3 Feb 23, 2013
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.files.wordpr...
Today, children found and designated “Valuable to the State” are tested, evaluated then kidnapped. They go through an advanced process of Eindeutschung (trauma based mind control-multiple personality programming) developed and perfected primarily by Hauptsfuhrer (Captain) SS Josef Mengele.

Often ignored or least understood, Dr. Mengele had been one of Lebensborn’s most important and secretive technicians. At Auschwitz with a population that may have been up to 4 million people,[5] Dr. Mengele used his human guinea pig victims which numbered into the hundreds of thousands to primarily provide scientific improvement to pre-existing methods of Illuminati trauma based mind control programming of children. Dr. Mengele’s advanced mind control and reprogramming programs, methodologies and techniques were secretly instituted in Lebensborn facilities.[6]

http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/tag/jose ..
Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#4 Feb 23, 2013
Do these abducted children later become programed killers no different than an attack dog given the word "sic em"?

"Their Manchurian candidate is someone who had been inflicted with NDT (Near Death Torture) at some point in their lives. The brain then blocks out the horrible torture experiences of the Manchurian victim and creates amnesia walls. The programmers then can lay down deadly programs in these amnesia walls of the Manchurian candidate such as assassination alters, prostitution alters and drug running alters. The list goes on and on what they can “program” the victim to do. The victim is activated by “triggers” which is usually a phrase or word. In this case it was most likely a trigger from the Batman movie previews that activated Holmes weeks in advance."
Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#5 Feb 23, 2013
In the Roswel incedent,there was a book written by one of the military personel involved,and he said those bodies with slanted eyes where not aliens,but japanese prisoners of war forced to fly these government ufo craft.
Cap Black

Huntsville, AL

#8 Feb 23, 2013
I never heard of the Indian Lake project. They found military documents revealing the government was raising children for mind control experiments. Even feeding them through cages like dogs.smh
http://www.crushable.com/2011/07/16/entertain...

The pictures in the box ranged from images of the military base that housed ILP to the children who were apparently the subjects of the experiments. John draws particular attention to three children who are referred to as Roger, Sam, and Sally

The child known as Roger had the most pictures in the box. They are all identified with the number 837 and depict Roger at different ages, indicating that he and the other ILP children were in the possession of the military for a number of years. The pictures include an image of Roger sitting at a table for a meal, which is at odds with some of the information contained on the film reels. The reels had been heavily damaged after their time in the ground, so John was only able to salvage stills from them; the accompanying sound would undoubtedly help shed light on the goings-on of the reels, but John has had to make due with the images alone. The first reel seems to show four children eating a meal while confined within a cage-like structure– not at a table, as Roger is shown to be in his photograph. Other clips from the film reels provide images of children listening to what John believed to be high-frequency sounds which may have been used in some form of psychological conditioning. Troubling, indeed.

Read more: http://www.crushable.com/2011/07/16/entertain...

As John dug deeper, he unearthed more and more disturbing facts. He learned of the existence of a CIA project known as Project ARTICHOKE, a program geared towards researching interrogation methods that arose in 1951 from something called Project BLUEBIRD. A memo dated January 1952 states,“Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?”, implying that Project ARTICHOKE was based in the idea of mind control.

Read more: http://www.crushable.com/2011/07/16/entertain...
Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#9 Feb 23, 2013
Deep Cover 00451 wrote:
You need to see this.
If you are not familiar with the "Indian Lake Project", you need to be.
http://indianlakeproject.blogspot.com/2005_10...
topix deleted post 7 for posting pictures of the abused children used for mind control experiments in your link.

I found this from your link;

Q: Where did all the kids come from? A: I can tell you what I know. At least 2 orphanages in up state NY authorized "adoptions" for persons with a military background (or who where currently in the military) almost exclusively during the years of 1952-1955. I also think it is possible for children who went missing during those years from the surrounding areas to be part of the I.L.P.'s numbers.

This sequence of stills is from 1 of the 3 movie reels found in the box. It shows at least 4 children, within a cage like area, receiving a meal.
Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#10 Feb 23, 2013
The price of Nazi scientists cooperation was the freedom of thousands of Nazi war criminals like Mengele. They sold their services to both sides and incited, even fabricated parts of the Cold War to suit their own ends. They also made use of persons in the occult committing the most horrible crimes against children for the stated purpose of creating persons with DID --more commonly known as Multiple Personality Disorder.

These practices are still ongoing. The stated purpose of these crimes both in the former USSR and here in the US was to create the perfect soldier, the perfect spy, and the perfect assassin, persons who with a key word or phrase could be made to do the bidding of their handlers unquestioningly and not remember it later nor be able to disclose classified information even if they wanted to.

Mengele et al tortured me many times in many locations I have heard mentioned by other MKULTRA survivors including several hospitals here in the US and on military bases. The tortures included but were not limited to rapes, disjointing, killing animals and other children in front of me or being forced to watch as adults were tortured, electric shock, injections with LSD and anectidine and many other substances, cattle prod up the vagina or rectum, witnessed murders, occultic rituals, many bizarre sex acts. It was very calculated and continues to the present. As these people are government sanctioned in their actions, there is no safety I have found except in the Lord.

Mengele was alive and well and living in the US as an honored guest of the United States government as late as 1987.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/oldsite/artic...
Guest

Oskaloosa, KS

#11 Feb 23, 2013
1950s THERE WERE NO UFOs people were tricked into believing it by the US Defense. US Defense used this hype to test their Stealth Bombers and other advance air combat units which they later released (during the late 60s). in 1962, they had a spycraft to examine Soviet terrain (a.k.a Russia and Siberia) In case you don't understand me, UFOS in the 50s, 60s, 70s = US Airforce projects.

It is the NSA whose personnel reportedly pilot the black-budget UFOs between the Luna (Alternative 3) base on Mars and the Dreamland base in Area 51, Nevada. It is the NSA and DIA who operate their own UFO fleets in our skies at night. The question isn't do UFOs exist, but who is flying them?

In recent years men like Vladimir Terziski have exposed a literal "vast right wing conspiracy" involving fascist military industrial fraternities in Germany, the United States of America, AND in Antarctica of all places... from where hard core fascists who still believe that Adolph Hitler was a god continue to advance the dark technology which began in the underground bases and concentration camps of World War II Germany. S.S. "pure bred" scientists within the alleged Nazi base in Antarctica, code named the "New Berlin".

according to Terziski, have been carrying out --in addition to MIND CONTROL and BIOGENETIC experimentation --continuous research and development in the field of ANTIGRAVITY propulsion, at least to a ten-fold degree over and beyond the research efforts that were carried out by the Nazi scientists during World War II.

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#14 Feb 23, 2013
The first paragraph had me sold.
Cap Black

Huntsville, AL

#15 Feb 23, 2013
And agent lobster comes to get basted on this thread.

Here's a pcture of one gov abducted girl.
http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2011/07/MK_Ult...
The typed notes on the photo read as follows:

“Unidentified white female between the age 8 and 10 years old. Subject underwent 6 months of treatment using heavy doses of LSD, electroshock and sensory deprivation. Experiments under codename: MKULTRA about early 60s. Subject’s memory was erased and her brain is that of a newborn baby.”

Read more: http://www.crushable.com/2011/07/16/entertain...
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#16 Feb 23, 2013
There are strange phenomena that goes on, especially Sleep Paralysis, when people who've suffered through it only find themselves to break free by someone waking them up or they call on God or Jesus Christ. Many have stated this, so conduct your own study. Some have said that they have seen Alien Greys in their nightmares while going thru SP.(Sleep Paralysis.)
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#17 Feb 23, 2013
Think about it, can you imagine if you could design some type of device that can pitch sounds in people's head to drive them crazy? Think how them Nazi rocket scientists must have felt when they realized that they could design rockets and other types weaponry. They were probably like kids in a candy store! There's no telling what else the US, USSR and Britain probably found in Germany and kept it to themselves all the way to the grave and beyond.
Toilet Inspector

Sheffield, UK

#18 Feb 23, 2013
Cap Black wrote:
And agent lobster comes to get basted on this thread.
Here's a pcture of one gov abducted girl.
http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2011/07/MK_Ult...
The typed notes on the photo read as follows:
“Unidentified white female between the age 8 and 10 years old. Subject underwent 6 months of treatment using heavy doses of LSD, electroshock and sensory deprivation. Experiments under codename: MKULTRA about early 60s. Subject’s memory was erased and her brain is that of a newborn baby.”
Read more: http://www.crushable.com/2011/07/16/entertain...
Did you read what it said at the top of the site?

"Creepy Things That Seem Real But Aren’t is a series that explores modern urban legends, bringing you a new tale each week."

looks like you've been hoaxed there son.
Harbinger of Doom

Tampa, FL

#19 Feb 23, 2013
How can we signal space aliens that it's time for them to come to Earth and eradicate all our Negroes?
Cap Black

Huntsville, AL

#20 Feb 23, 2013
Toilet Inspector wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you read what it said at the top of the site?
"Creepy Things That Seem Real But Aren’t is a series that explores modern urban legends, bringing you a new tale each week."
looks like you've been hoaxed there son.
That's a smart disclaimer. As the nature of that topic is 400 degreez.



That's why you're here.
Toilet Inspector

Sheffield, UK

#21 Feb 23, 2013
Cap Black wrote:
<quoted text>That's a smart disclaimer. As the nature of that topic is 400 degreez.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =B7-BEWALrhsXX
That's why you're here.
It's on the site though, it clearly states that it's creative writing....I also spotted that a lot of the photos supposedly from the 1950s used as 'evidence' had been created using specific Photoshop filters I'm familiar with.
Sparky MacPhee

Korea

#22 Feb 23, 2013
Harbinger of Doom wrote:
How can we signal space aliens that it's time for them to come to Earth and eradicate all our Negroes?
Simple. Just blast rap, BET, WB, and all the other annoying monkey-babble of these f ucking coons into outer space 24/7 and the space aliens will come and make them good quicker than you can say "No More Nighurz!"
Cap Black

Huntsville, AL

#23 Feb 23, 2013
Toilet Inspector wrote:
<quoted text>
It's on the site though, it clearly states that it's creative writing....I also spotted that a lot of the photos supposedly from the 1950s used as 'evidence' had been created using specific Photoshop filters I'm familiar with.
And i also agree with that websites disclaimer. We,the little people will never know for sure what is really happening in secret,will we? We're left to wander through the internet,finding these theories right?
btchsmitty

Barnesville, OH

#24 Feb 23, 2013
The end of the article on page 2 says this:

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So is this one real?

Actually, we’re not really sure.

MK-ULTRA is real; so is Project BLUEBIRD and Project ARTICHOKE.

General consensus about ILP says that all signs point to either literary project a la The Dionaea House or Ted the Caver, or ARG like Marble Hornets or You Shouldn’t Have Done That.

But in spite of this, most also note that they haven’t ruled out the possibility that the Indian Lake Project did actually exist and that John has, in fact, been digging up all sorts of secrets that were probably never meant to see the light of day.

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