France wants a war in Mali??

“Maat's my principle”

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bamako,mali

#253 Oct 21, 2012
May god bless Mali and the whole african continent!

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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I'm An Illegal Alien

#254 Oct 21, 2012
Zew wrote:
<quoted text>
You identify as AA because you are ASHAMED of what you are. You are ashamed of Haiti and have tried every angle to me a
I identify as AA because that it what the census requires al blacks, irrespective of origin, to identify as.

“The Love Below”

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#255 Oct 21, 2012
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> I identify as AA because that it what the census requires al blacks, irrespective of origin, to identify as.
All my haitian associates and friends, they dont identify as african american, but it does not really matter. They will mark it down on a application Im sure, but will tell you their Haitian American, or haitian. My associate, a friend of a friend, will not identify as AA, and her kids are part puerto rican, but they look black. I think the majority, and Im sure, of AA's, are of colonial U.S descent, so our ties are different to this country, in a different way than a haitian. You guys speak a launguage, or eat a certain food, this is all we know. I know a few carribeans who want to indentify with their country. I think as communities grow, this will change, because no matter what we call ourself, people still identify with their country. I have heard that carribeans, afro latinos, and other afro ethinic groups, are being absorbed in our communities. I know a lot of people who have a puerto rican this, dominican that, haitian this, and all kinds of other groups, in their family.

“The Love Below”

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#256 Oct 21, 2012
African Americans[3](also referred to as Black Americans and formerly as American Negroes) are citizens or residents of the United States who have total or significant partial ancestry from any of the native populations of Sub-Saharan Africa.[4] The term is not usually used for black residents of other countries in the Americas.

Black Americans make up the single largest racial minority in the United States.[5] Most African Americans are of West and Central African descent and are descendants of enslaved blacks within the boundaries of the present United States.[6][7] However, some immigrants from African, Caribbean, Central American and South American nations, and their descendants, may be identified or self-identify with the term.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American

“The Love Below”

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#257 Oct 21, 2012
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> I identify as AA because that it what the census requires al blacks, irrespective of origin, to identify as.
African Americans are the blacks who are descendant from the U.S slave era, the traditional AA. Obama is not a traditional AA, and other big names are not as well, but they can identify with that term if they want to, but many will tell you they are carribean descent. Some AA's will correct you on calling yourself AA, and some carribeans will correct you on call them that, because their is a separate identity with each group.
Barros Serrano

United States

#258 Oct 21, 2012
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
<quoted text>African Americans are the blacks who are descendant from the U.S slave era, the traditional AA. Obama is not a traditional AA, and other big names are not as well, but they can identify with that term if they want to, but many will tell you they are carribean descent. Some AA's will correct you on calling yourself AA, and some carribeans will correct you on call them that, because their is a separate identity with each group.
If you look at it as culture, an ethnic culture, rather than concentrate so much on ancestry (like USA slave vs Caribbean, etc.), then really Obama is an African-American. He grew up mostly in the USA, he had the “black experience” so to speak, he assimilated black culture, he hung with black people... and when they released that video that Fox News tried to make a scandal because Obama slightly “talked black”, listening to him I thought, yeah, you can hear the rhetoric of the black preacher in there, and generally his oratory is like that---black, AA.

So I say Obama is AA, but of course I'm not black so I don't get a vote really.

“The Love Below”

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#259 Oct 21, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at it as culture, an ethnic culture, rather than concentrate so much on ancestry (like USA slave vs Caribbean, etc.), then really Obama is an African-American. He grew up mostly in the USA, he had the “black experience” so to speak, he assimilated black culture, he hung with black people... and when they released that video that Fox News tried to make a scandal because Obama slightly “talked black”, listening to him I thought, yeah, you can hear the rhetoric of the black preacher in there, and generally his oratory is like that---black, AA.
So I say Obama is AA, but of course I'm not black so I don't get a vote really.
I know that, but hes not of U.S slave descent, he will tell you this. He had to learn my culture, and he was partially raised in Hawaii. He won the AA peoples hearts years before he was in office. This is Obama in West Africa, he cannot fully identify, and he knows that, but he loves AA people. Obama does not understand our slight mistrust with whites, and other things we went through.:XXYOUTUBE-0gmDoon_yC0 XX

“The Love Below”

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#260 Oct 21, 2012
know that, but hes not of U.S slave descent, he will tell you this. He had to learn my culture, and he was partially raised in Hawaii. He won the AA peoples hearts years before he was in office. This is Obama in West Africa, he cannot fully identify, and he knows that, but he loves AA people. Obama does not understand our slight mistrust with whites, and other things we went through.

“The Love Below”

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#261 Oct 21, 2012
Sorry, Obama cannot indentify fully as a AA, please watch this video:
Barros Serrano

United States

#262 Oct 21, 2012
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
know that, but hes not of U.S slave descent, he will tell you this. He had to learn my culture, and he was partially raised in Hawaii. He won the AA peoples hearts years before he was in office. This is Obama in West Africa, he cannot fully identify, and he knows that, but he loves AA people. Obama does not understand our slight mistrust with whites, and other things we went through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0gmDoon_yC0XX
I see what you mean. Obama is not reacting as I've seen AA's react at those sites. They are often overwhelmed, gasping, shaking their head. Obama speaks much as a white tourist would, affected intellectually, but detached.

Anthropologists will define ethnic identity such that it can be attached by a person himself, who considers himself of a particular group, or by the members of the group, who has criteria for deciding who is also a member.

So by that consideration, your word on this is worth more than mine, since I'm not AA and you are. It is interesting that there is an identification with the whole history AA's went through which is important to you in allowing them to have that label. I looked more at the acculturation Obama had in the USA, assimilating AA culture.

Of course I've assimilated aspects of AA culture, but that doesn't make me AA either...

Interesting...

“The Love Below”

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#263 Oct 21, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
I see what you mean. Obama is not reacting as I've seen AA's react at those sites. They are often overwhelmed, gasping, shaking their head. Obama speaks much as a white tourist would, affected intellectually, but detached.
Anthropologists will define ethnic identity such that it can be attached by a person himself, who considers himself of a particular group, or by the members of the group, who has criteria for deciding who is also a member.
So by that consideration, your word on this is worth more than mine, since I'm not AA and you are. It is interesting that there is an identification with the whole history AA's went through which is important to you in allowing them to have that label. I looked more at the acculturation Obama had in the USA, assimilating AA culture.
Of course I've assimilated aspects of AA culture, but that doesn't make me AA either...
Interesting...
Infact, Anderson Cooper probably would not have asked a traditional AA this question, because hes white american, and he knows the deal, but I could be wrong. His family were friends to AA's back in the day, so no hate on him, hes a good guy, but I carry a sheet of mistrust on me, that Obama will never understand, but Im sure he has experienced, but I come from centuries of it! We are a product of a country, that treated us badly. We are still getting over what America did to us.

“Maat's my principle”

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bamako,mali

#264 Oct 22, 2012
This thread is about France wanting war in Mali!
You guys are out of your league !
Zew

Johannesburg, South Africa

#266 Oct 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at it as culture, an ethnic culture, rather than concentrate so much on ancestry (like USA slave vs Caribbean, etc.), then really Obama is an African-American. He grew up mostly in the USA, he had the “black experience” so to speak, he assimilated black culture, he hung with black people... and when they released that video that Fox News tried to make a scandal because Obama slightly “talked black”, listening to him I thought, yeah, you can hear the rhetoric of the black preacher in there, and generally his oratory is like that---black, AA.
So I say Obama is AA, but of course I'm not black so I don't get a vote really.
And who the hell is a SA Coloured in USA to tell anybody what he is or what he is not. Obama is Coloured just like you. He is not black and definitely not an AA. He is mixed race American.

He wouldnt qualify for slavery reparations which are still owed to AAs.
Zew

Johannesburg, South Africa

#267 Oct 22, 2012
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
<quoted text>African Americans are the blacks who are descendant from the U.S slave era.
Yes.

I must add:

African Americans are black people of USA who would qualify for reparations for slavery if they were to be paid out tomorrow. Afro Brazilians are not AAs, they would have to fight for and collect their slave reparations in Brazil.

If AAs dare let Haitians get reparations, I'm taking the next flight to New York, get my US citizenship, open a bank account, head straight for the reparations office and tell them that I am a South African American, that is...an African American from the South, I hear them ask... Mississipi?, I say no..., Alabama, near Gees Bend.
Get the cheque, kiss it, deposit in my bank account, take the next SAA flight back to Jo'burg, laugh all the way to the bank, write to my bank manager to transfer funds to my SA account... hahaha and live happily ever after screwing AAs in Harlem.

hahahahaha...that would not be nice but given a chance and getting immunity from the law I'd do it hahahaha....
Zew

Johannesburg, South Africa

#269 Oct 22, 2012
Without immunity I wouldnt do it because USA would apply to SA for my extradition to face fraud charges.
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
<quoted text>All my haitian associates and friends, they dont identify as african american, but it does not really matter. They will mark it down on a application Im sure, but will tell you their Haitian American, or haitian. My associate, a friend of a friend, will not identify as AA, and her kids are part puerto rican, but they look black. I think the majority, and Im sure, of AA's, are of colonial U.S descent, so our ties are different to this country, in a different way than a haitian.
Well said up to that point. For the first time I fully agree with you. I didnt quite catch the second half, it doesnt matter to me because the point I've been making all along is contained in the quoted part.

I dont understand why some want to take the identity that others, AAs in this case, have crafted for themselves. And now you have master slave traders from West Africa claiming to be AAs, how do they explain that?
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> I identify as AA because that it what the census requires al blacks, irrespective of origin, to identify as.
That doesnt make you an AA, nothing ever will.

Go back to Haiti, fix the country, work the land and feed yourselves. If poor people of Ecuador, Peru, etc can stay put so can you and the Africans who let the land lie fallow to scavenge in foreign countries. People must EAT from their land, thats key, they dont have to be rich but they must eat. Then the govenments can build from there.

You cant teach a hungry child, you can't talk sense to a hungry adult who is preoccupied with where his next meal will come from.

In places like Papu New Huinea, people are very poor and backward but they eat from the land because they work their land. Some dont want 'civilisation' saying its going to deny access to the land that feeds them. And they are right. The Chad-Cameroon oil pipleli has dispalced the People Of The Forest and left them starving. The French puppet Cameroon dictator doesnt care.
Zew

Johannesburg, South Africa

#270 Oct 22, 2012
Sopmethins s wrng with muy keyboard.

Terrible typos from the previous post:

'In places like PapuA New GUINEA, people are very poor and backward but they eat from the land because they work their land. Some dont want 'civilisation' saying its going to deny THEM access to the land that feeds them. And they are right. The Chad-Cameroon oilPIPELINE has dispLAced the People Of The Forest and left them starving. The French puppet Cameroon DICKtatorHEAD of state doesnt care because his children do eat.
-AAA- wrote:
<quoted text>I agree!Well you aren't AA, it doesn't matter.
You agree that you are bullshitters? Bullshit all you like I'd screw you for reparations if I can get immunity from extradiction.

Yes Im not AA, how can I be AA when Im down here closer to the Antarctica than USA. SA to Antarctica 7 hrs flight, SA to Atlanta , Washiongton, New York you are talking anything from 14 to 17 hrs, look at that. Mind you some of these flight via Dakar and you think I've got time to stop in an underdeveloped country like Senegal. I'm too modern for such stop overs. What do they sell in Dakar except the finger long fish?
In the US I wouldnt live in those semi-rural states, not me.

I dont want to be AA, I dont want to take anything away from you including the identity and culture you've crafted for yourselves.

Now you know why I hate it when foreigners call themselves South Africans. These arent my people, they dont share my history, heritage, we've got nothing in common except the skin colour and the fact that we are on the same continent. They dont have my experiences, I dont have theirs and I dont want whats theirs, why do they want whats mine? Why do they want my nationality, my history, my heritage, my country, my country is my everything, its my life, why do they want it? I dont want their countries, I want mine. This is the only country I have and they want it, WHY?

I like it when AAs stand up to defend their identify, thats what I do with mine.
ashanti king

Lansdowne, PA

#271 Oct 22, 2012
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
Sorry, Obama cannot indentify fully as a AA, please watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0gmDoon_yC0XX
You also can't identify as aa because u were not a salve. It is story pass down to you, just it was passed down to obama.
ashanti king

Lansdowne, PA

#272 Oct 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>I see what you mean. Obama is not reacting as I've seen AA's react at those sites. They are often overwhelmed, gasping, shaking their head. Obama speaks much as a white tourist would, affected intellectually, but detached.

Anthropologists will define ethnic identity such that it can be attached by a person himself, who considers himself of a particular group, or by the members of the group, who has criteria for deciding who is also a member.

So by that consideration, your word on this is worth more than mine, since I'm not AA and you are. It is interesting that there is an identification with the whole history AA's went through which is important to you in allowing them to have that label. I looked more at the acculturation Obama had in the USA, assimilating AA culture.

Of course I've assimilated aspects of AA culture, but that doesn't make me AA either...

Interesting...
I went to the castle before and I felt what you just described. I am from Ghana and spent part of life over there.
-AAA-

United States

#273 Oct 22, 2012
ashanti king wrote:
<quoted text>You also can't identify as aa because u were not a salve.
He descends from them.
-AAA-

United States

#274 Oct 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>Obama speaks much as a white tourist would, affected intellectually, but detached.
Of course! He has no AA parents.

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