The "WHAT IF'S" of History
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#1 Mar 4, 2010
Any History buffs in the house? Do you sometimes ponder how things would be if history, or some historic event, had taken a different turn?

What if there had been no slave trade either by the Christian West or the Muslim East?

What if Denmark Vesey had succeeded?

What if Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. had lived to lead the Poor Peoples Campaign in the spring of 1968?

What if Dr. King has taken (as indeed he considered doing) a Church in the North? Or entered academic life into of the ministry?

How would life be different?


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#2 Mar 4, 2010
History.....

I remember as a high school student reading some book by a British historian called (I believe), FIFTEEN DECISIVE BATTLES OF WORLD HISTORY.
I seem to recall his claim that if those battles had be lost by the side that won them, the whole history of the world would have been changed.
Can we be sure of this?
Or if some leader had made different decisions?

What if Adolph Hitler had NOT invaded Russia before defeating England?

What if he had not declared war on the USA, thus giving FDR the pretext he needed to enter the war on the side of Great Britain?

Might he have won the war? How would THAT have affected world history?

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#3 Mar 4, 2010
A Thought Regarding ANCIENT HISTORY

In 722 B.C. the Assyrians descended upon the northern Kingdom of Israel and took away into captivity the ten tribes. Those ten tribes disappeard from history Who knows what happened to those "Ten Lost Tribes"?
Later, the Assyrians attacked the southern kingdom, but were forced to withdraw because of some pestilence.
But what if they had taken away the last two remaining tribes?
Tragically, the Jewish people would have disappeared altogether.
But no Jewish people, no Judaism. No Islam. Possibly not monotheism except among certain philosophers. No Bible.
How different would history have turned out if THAT happened.

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#4 Mar 4, 2010
Would the Civil Rights movement have happened even if Dr. King had not returned to the South when he did?
I think so. But I'm not sure that HE would have played the historic role that he did.
I also wonder how the Civil Rights movement would have developed without his leadership.
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#5 Mar 4, 2010
Ignore this fool. Savant is one of the biggest racist on this forum.

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#6 Mar 4, 2010
Savant wrote:
History.....
I remember as a high school student reading some book by a British historian called (I believe), FIFTEEN DECISIVE BATTLES OF WORLD HISTORY.
I seem to recall his claim that if those battles had be lost by the side that won them, the whole history of the world would have been changed.
Can we be sure of this?
Or if some leader had made different decisions?
What if Adolph Hitler had NOT invaded Russia before defeating England?
What if he had not declared war on the USA, thus giving FDR the pretext he needed to enter the war on the side of Great Britain?
Might he have won the war? How would THAT have affected world history?
I have discussed what if the US hadn't gone into WW2. I think the outcome for the US would have balanced on whether we got the atomic bomb before or after Germany, because they were probably on the verge of having it. If we would have gotten it at the same time or before, then I feel the US would have been safe even if Germany took over Europe. We would have probably had a cold war thing with them like we did with Russia.

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#7 Mar 4, 2010
Savant wrote:
Would the Civil Rights movement have happened even if Dr. King had not returned to the South when he did?
I think so. But I'm not sure that HE would have played the historic role that he did.
I also wonder how the Civil Rights movement would have developed without his leadership.
Maybe without Martin L. King things would have gone more in the direction of what Malcolm X wanted and Blacks would have gotten their own place.
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#8 Mar 4, 2010
sONE wrote:
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Maybe without Martin L. King things would have gone more in the direction of what Malcolm X wanted and Blacks would have gotten their own place.
Blacks did get their own place. Liberia.

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#9 Mar 4, 2010
Do you honestly believe we in the West would still be living in log cabins if not for the labour of Africans?

Anyone really think that there would be no pharmaceutical indstry in the West if not for the labour of Africans?

No electronics?

No automobiles?

No jets?

No central heating and air conditioning?

No flush toilets, washing machines and refrigerators?

Are we seriously expected to believe that the vast new computer industry and the internet would not have existed in the West if not for the labour of Africans? Were the great bridges, dams and skyscrapers of the West built on African labour?

Anyone possessing the merest scintilla of economic sense would reject this whole idea out of hand. The great wealth of the West is due to capitalism, not physical labour.

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#10 Mar 4, 2010
Always dreaming of "What If" gets you nowhere.......

Live in the here and now..........

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#11 Mar 4, 2010
LOL wrote:
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Blacks did get their own place. Liberia.
Yeah, hardly any went there. Malcolm X wanted a separate place in the US I think.

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#12 Mar 4, 2010
What if trade practices and immigration would have stayed the same as pre 1964?

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#13 Mar 4, 2010
What if we'd never gone off the gold standard?

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#16 Mar 4, 2010
MAX- AMERICAN wrote:
Always dreaming of "What If" gets you nowhere.......
Live in the here and now..........
Hi Max! How's it going?
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#17 Mar 4, 2010
sONE wrote:
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Yeah, hardly any went there. Malcolm X wanted a separate place in the US I think.
Atlanta
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#18 Mar 4, 2010
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#20 Mar 4, 2010
Moon Cricket wrote:
What If our coloreds had advanced past the "fight or flight" stage of evolution like humans did 10,000 years ago?
And what if you'd been muthafuckin aborted? You dumbass muthafucka.

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#21 Mar 4, 2010
sONE wrote:
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Hi Max! How's it going?
I am doing fine......

The weather is getting better and I have a job......

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#22 Mar 4, 2010
MAX- AMERICAN wrote:
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I am doing fine......
The weather is getting better and I have a job......
Good for you. The weather is mostly good here lately. I'm looking for a part time job- no luck so far.

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#23 Mar 4, 2010
sONE wrote:
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Good for you. The weather is mostly good here lately. I'm looking for a part time job- no luck so far.
Do you live in rural Texas or a metro area....?

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