Afrikaners are European NOT African

Afrikaners are European NOT African

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Mixed Zimbabwean

Telford, UK

#1 Jun 25, 2009
why cant a lot of European americans get it through their heads that in order to be an African you must be INDIGENOUS to the continent.

The Afrikaners are also responsible for the crime against humanity known as apartheid, a gross violation of human rights, the conservative EUROPEAN Afrikaners intitiated it and most of them were stanch supporters and defenders of that disgusting system the Afrikaners were oppressors and DEHUMANIZED all non Europeans and it was the indigenous black Africans who suffered most of all. The Afrikaners were totally indifferent to the suffering of their non white compatriots.

Any black who says the Afrikaners are African should be ashamed of themselves.
Ebony

Telford, UK

#2 Jul 7, 2009
Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:
why cant a lot of European americans get it through their heads that in order to be an African you must be INDIGENOUS to the continent.
The Afrikaners are also responsible for the crime against humanity known as apartheid, a gross violation of human rights, the conservative EUROPEAN Afrikaners intitiated it and most of them were stanch supporters and defenders of that disgusting system the Afrikaners were oppressors and DEHUMANIZED all non Europeans and it was the indigenous black Africans who suffered most of all. The Afrikaners were totally indifferent to the suffering of their non white compatriots.
Any black who says the Afrikaners are African should be ashamed of themselves.
Brilliant post
Ish tov

United States

#3 Jul 7, 2009
Well, you're mostly right. Also, most people aren't aware that the creators of the apartheid system, such as Johannes Voerster, were overtly pro-Nazi in WW2 (as were the Palestinian Arabs). Apartheid certainly was a serious crime against humanity.

Obviously the Afrikaaners descend from Dutch settlers. What is not generally known is that the "Bantu" people (the "blacks" of S Africa, mainly Zulu and Xhosa) are NOT indigenous to that area. The arrived in an imperialist confederation known as "Ngoni" at the same time as the Dutch. The 2 collided in the famous battle of Blood River (named for the color the water turned because of the battle), in which the Ngoni were defeated.

The Ngoni were some seriously abusive bastards, against other Bantu as well as Khoisan. The Khoisan did NOT fare well at the hands of the Bantu.

So, this doesn't excuse ONE BIT the racism of the Afrikaaners and their ridiculous apartheid system, but for historical accuracy, let's remember that the KHOISAN are the indigenous people of S Africa, and BOTH the Bantu and Afrikaaner treated them like crap.

Today's "Coloureds" (a "racial" category under the apartheid system), mostly resident in Capetown and environs, have a significant Khoisan ancestry, along with Asian and European mixed in.

Political breakdown: The Xhosa were mostly the ANC. The Zulu were sellouts under Chief Buthelezi's Inkata Party, who supported apartheid and the Afrikaaners. The Coloureds created the "one settler one bullet" mentality, and are the ones who murdered Amy Biehl in the streets for being white..
Mixed Zimbabwean

Telford, UK

#4 Jul 16, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Well, you're mostly right. Also, most people aren't aware that the creators of the apartheid system, such as Johannes Voerster, were overtly pro-Nazi in WW2 (as were the Palestinian Arabs). Apartheid certainly was a serious crime against humanity.
Obviously the Afrikaaners descend from Dutch settlers. What is not generally known is that the "Bantu" people (the "blacks" of S Africa, mainly Zulu and Xhosa) are NOT indigenous to that area. The arrived in an imperialist confederation known as "Ngoni" at the same time as the Dutch. The 2 collided in the famous battle of Blood River (named for the color the water turned because of the battle), in which the Ngoni were defeated.
The Ngoni were some seriously abusive bastards, against other Bantu as well as Khoisan. The Khoisan did NOT fare well at the hands of the Bantu.
So, this doesn't excuse ONE BIT the racism of the Afrikaaners and their ridiculous apartheid system, but for historical accuracy, let's remember that the KHOISAN are the indigenous people of S Africa, and BOTH the Bantu and Afrikaaner treated them like crap.
Today's "Coloureds" (a "racial" category under the apartheid system), mostly resident in Capetown and environs, have a significant Khoisan ancestry, along with Asian and European mixed in.
Political breakdown: The Xhosa were mostly the ANC. The Zulu were sellouts under Chief Buthelezi's Inkata Party, who supported apartheid and the Afrikaaners. The Coloureds created the "one settler one bullet" mentality, and are the ones who murdered Amy Biehl in the streets for being white..
It was not ANY coloured that murdered Amy Biehl.

You know what bugs me about the Afrikaner REPTILES is that they 'claim this so called bond with the mixed race South Africans(the coloureds speak Afrikaans and share a very similar culture) yet at the same time they oppressed and dehumanized the mixed race South Africans, they endured and suffered many indignites under apartheid simply becuase the Afrikaners regarded the coloureds as nothing more than 'racially inferior' mixed bloods which is why they saw nothing wrong in mistreating and excluding the mixed population. They did not consider the mixed south Africans as people.

I always call the Afrikaners EUROPEAN just to annoy them if they have a problem and object too bad becuase it does not compare to what they did.
Zew

South Africa

#5 Jul 16, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Well, you're mostly right. Also, most people aren't aware that the creators of the apartheid system, such as Johannes Voerster, were overtly pro-Nazi in WW2 (as were the Palestinian Arabs). Apartheid certainly was a serious crime against humanity.
Obviously the Afrikaaners descend from Dutch settlers. What is not generally known is that the "Bantu" people (the "blacks" of S Africa, mainly Zulu and Xhosa) are NOT indigenous to that area. The arrived in an imperialist confederation known as "Ngoni" at the same time as the Dutch. The 2 collided in the famous battle of Blood River (named for the color the water turned because of the battle), in which the Ngoni were defeated.
The Ngoni were some seriously abusive bastards, against other Bantu as well as Khoisan. The Khoisan did NOT fare well at the hands of the Bantu.
So, this doesn't excuse ONE BIT the racism of the Afrikaaners and their ridiculous apartheid system, but for historical accuracy, let's remember that the KHOISAN are the indigenous people of S Africa, and BOTH the Bantu and Afrikaaner treated them like crap.
Today's "Coloureds" (a "racial" category under the apartheid system), mostly resident in Capetown and environs, have a significant Khoisan ancestry, along with Asian and European mixed in.
Political breakdown: The Xhosa were mostly the ANC. The Zulu were sellouts under Chief Buthelezi's Inkata Party, who supported apartheid and the Afrikaaners. The Coloureds created the "one settler one bullet" mentality, and are the ones who murdered Amy Biehl in the streets for being white..
YAW........N...!

There goes an immigrant from SA, naturalised American, one of the squatters who thought our land is theirs. Stay right where you are, what you say counts for nothing, you will never have South Africa. If the Ngunis don't belong here what are you planning to do about that, where were you when they were wherever they came from? The bottomline is that whites don't belong in Africa, you never thought the day when you'll have to leave will come.

You are the people who brutalised and raped Khoisan, the Coloureds who are products of that barbarity serve as proof of your subhuman nature. Without the Zulus and Xhosas you would have snatched SA's smaller tribes including Khoisan and sold them to slavery and/or enslaved them inside the country. You needed slaves that is why you brought Malaysians and Indians in chains around their necks, Zulus and Xhosas are the major if not the only reason South Africa has no history of slavery. You were scared of the Xhosas so much that you beheaded their King when you killed him and presented his head to the English King George as proof and a trophy. What goes around comes around, the Islamist extremists must continue to behead white scums.

Whites have difficulties letting go of SA, UK's "darling" colony, hahahahaha...hahahahaha... ITS TIME TO LET GO OF OUR COUNTRY...!

Since: Mar 09

United States

#6 Jul 16, 2009
Who cares?
Zew

South Africa

#7 Jul 16, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Well, you're mostly right. Also, most people aren't aware that the creators of the apartheid system, such as Johannes Voerster, were overtly pro-Nazi in WW2 (as were the Palestinian Arabs). Apartheid certainly was a serious crime against humanity.
Obviously the Afrikaaners descend from Dutch settlers. What is not generally known is that the "Bantu" people (the "blacks" of S Africa, mainly Zulu and Xhosa) are NOT indigenous to that area. The arrived in an imperialist confederation known as "Ngoni" at the same time as the Dutch. The 2 collided in the famous battle of Blood River (named for the color the water turned because of the battle), in which the Ngoni were defeated.
The Ngoni were some seriously abusive bastards, against other Bantu as well as Khoisan. The Khoisan did NOT fare well at the hands of the Bantu.
So, this doesn't excuse ONE BIT the racism of the Afrikaaners and their ridiculous apartheid system, but for historical accuracy, let's remember that the KHOISAN are the indigenous people of S Africa, and BOTH the Bantu and Afrikaaner treated them like crap.
Today's "Coloureds" (a "racial" category under the apartheid system), mostly resident in Capetown and environs, have a significant Khoisan ancestry, along with Asian and European mixed in.
Political breakdown: The Xhosa were mostly the ANC. The Zulu were sellouts under Chief Buthelezi's Inkata Party, who supported apartheid and the Afrikaaners. The Coloureds created the "one settler one bullet" mentality, and are the ones who murdered Amy Biehl in the streets for being white..
You tried every trick in the book to divide black South Africans, quit trying its not going to work, we are doing just fine with the likes of you in the US, UK and Australia. The Zulus did not support apartheid, it is a minority of the uneducated Zulus who were used by Buthelezi who in the 90s, was lured and used by the apartheid regime after many years in the struggle.

If the Zulus supported apartheid why did they vote Mandela and Mbeki, and why are there so many Zulus who were and some died in exile, why are there Zulus who were hanged by your apartheid regime, why is Buthelezi's party dying a slow death?. Your problem is that you got it all wrong, you and your regime thought every Zulu was behind Buthelezi, the man is supported by uneducated Zulus from one small town in KZN.

Like some on this continent, you were hoping the Zulus and Xhosas would have delivered the civil war you've waited for for 15 years, IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN because black South Africans are not stupid, they are not easy, they are not fools, they don't fall for everything a white man says, they don't have slave mentality, they were not born to be enslaved. You are all running to the US because that country backed your illegitimate regime for so long, you were their allies, IT IS OVER...!
Zew

South Africa

#8 Jul 16, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Well, you're mostly right. Also, most people aren't aware that the creators of the apartheid system, such as Johannes Voerster, were overtly pro-Nazi in WW2 (as were the Palestinian Arabs). Apartheid certainly was a serious crime against humanity.
Obviously the Afrikaaners descend from Dutch settlers. What is not generally known is that the "Bantu" people (the "blacks" of S Africa, mainly Zulu and Xhosa) are NOT indigenous to that area. The arrived in an imperialist confederation known as "Ngoni" at the same time as the Dutch. The 2 collided in the famous battle of Blood River (named for the color the water turned because of the battle), in which the Ngoni were defeated.
The Ngoni were some seriously abusive bastards, against other Bantu as well as Khoisan. The Khoisan did NOT fare well at the hands of the Bantu.
So, this doesn't excuse ONE BIT the racism of the Afrikaaners and their ridiculous apartheid system, but for historical accuracy, let's remember that the KHOISAN are the indigenous people of S Africa, and BOTH the Bantu and Afrikaaner treated them like crap.
Today's "Coloureds" (a "racial" category under the apartheid system), mostly resident in Capetown and environs, have a significant Khoisan ancestry, along with Asian and European mixed in.
Political breakdown: The Xhosa were mostly the ANC. The Zulu were sellouts under Chief Buthelezi's Inkata Party, who supported apartheid and the Afrikaaners. The Coloureds created the "one settler one bullet" mentality, and are the ones who murdered Amy Biehl in the streets for being white..
BULLSHIT, the Coloureds did not create "one settler one bullet", and they did not kill Amy Biehl, that woman was at a wrong place at a wrong time, she had no business putting herself in the line of fire like that. Her liberal mind took her to a wrong spot. One thing certain, like every race in the country, Coloureds FOUGHT for the freedom they are enjoying, nothing you do or say is going to change that. Today the likes of you are squatting in foreign countries, GOOD RIDDANCE, the sacrifices PAID OFF.
Zew

South Africa

#9 Jul 16, 2009
BAMAPERRY wrote:
Who cares?
Those who are NOT ignorant do.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#10 Jul 16, 2009
Nah. Nobody care about S.A. Just their gold.
Zew

South Africa

#11 Jul 16, 2009
BAMAPERRY wrote:
Nah. Nobody care about S.A. Just their gold.
Maybe you should care about your crumbling economy and your worth less propped up currency, watch happens by this time next year. Americans are the only ones who don't see hoe deep in trouble they are, Bush served you right together with his buddies in the mafa world.
Olive

UK

#12 Jul 23, 2009
Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:
why cant a lot of European americans get it through their heads that in order to be an African you must be INDIGENOUS to the continent.
The Afrikaners are also responsible for the crime against humanity known as apartheid, a gross violation of human rights, the conservative EUROPEAN Afrikaners intitiated it and most of them were stanch supporters and defenders of that disgusting system the Afrikaners were oppressors and DEHUMANIZED all non Europeans and it was the indigenous black Africans who suffered most of all. The Afrikaners were totally indifferent to the suffering of their non white compatriots.
Any black who says the Afrikaners are African should be ashamed of themselves.
I agree I refuse to call Afrikaners fellow Africans myself they are not part of the African family and never will be.

Since: Sep 08

Newark, NJ

#13 Jul 23, 2009
Olive wrote:
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I agree I refuse to call Afrikaners fellow Africans myself they are not part of the African family and never will be.
This is WITHOUT QUESTION.
Ish tov

United States

#14 Jul 23, 2009
Zew, obviously a subhuman animal, justifies the vicious murder of Amy Biehl, by other subhumans who were yelling "one settler, one bullet" as they murdered her. What a liar you are.

His argument is to call me an Afrikaaner! LOL... I have never been in South Africa. I'm not white. I was born in the USA.

Zew belongs in a zoo. Hysterical racists like him are why the world is a mess today. He's as guilty as any Afrikaaner racist.
Zew

South Africa

#16 Jul 24, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Zew, obviously a subhuman animal, justifies the vicious murder of Amy Biehl, by other subhumans who were yelling "one settler, one bullet" as they murdered her. What a liar you are.
His argument is to call me an Afrikaaner! LOL... I have never been in South Africa. I'm not white. I was born in the USA.
Zew belongs in a zoo. Hysterical racists like him are why the world is a mess today. He's as guilty as any Afrikaaner racist.
You are not white, you are not anything, you must be one of those products of rape called coloureds, the kind of crap that has no sense of direction, I don't care where you were born just stay where you are. I'm guilty - what are you going to do? Amy Biehl should have known better than to let her liberal beliefs take her to a wrong spot, I felt and still feel nothing for her, there are too many blacks that were killed by whites for me to feel anything for her. You are making a big mistake if you think you are instilling a sense of guilt on me or that Amy Biehl is important in the lives of South Africans.
Zew

South Africa

#17 Jul 24, 2009
Ish tov wrote:
Zew, obviously a subhuman animal, justifies the vicious murder of Amy Biehl, by other subhumans who were yelling "one settler, one bullet" as they murdered her. What a liar you are.
His argument is to call me an Afrikaaner! LOL... I have never been in South Africa. I'm not white. I was born in the USA.
Zew belongs in a zoo. Hysterical racists like him are why the world is a mess today. He's as guilty as any Afrikaaner racist.
SA is obviously very important to you.
Pere du Champ

Hillsboro, WV

#18 Jul 24, 2009
LOL... Zew is a hysterical racist sub-mental bastard.

So who killed Amy Biehl, you moron?

I was involved in the movement in the USA for divestment, to end apartheid. That's the only connection I have to S Africa. I think racism sucks, so of course I don't like racist Afrikaaners or racist PAC types like you, boy.

I hope you get dragged by a bus today, driven by a black S African LOL.
Beatrice

Prospect, KY

#19 Jul 24, 2009
Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:
why cant a lot of European americans get it through their heads that in order to be an African you must be INDIGENOUS to the continent.
The Afrikaners are also responsible for the crime against humanity known as apartheid, a gross violation of human rights, the conservative EUROPEAN Afrikaners intitiated it and most of them were stanch supporters and defenders of that disgusting system the Afrikaners were oppressors and DEHUMANIZED all non Europeans and it was the indigenous black Africans who suffered most of all. The Afrikaners were totally indifferent to the suffering of their non white compatriots.
Any black who says the Afrikaners are African should be ashamed of themselves.
Afrikaners certianly are white....thank God.
The Lion King

Newark, NJ

#20 Jul 24, 2009
ron

Chestnut Hill, MA

#21 Jul 24, 2009
there some good point here and there but one thing black south africans need to understand is these people are no longer part of dutch culture any more, they have lost trace with their ancestors, so the land they claim is south africa. They may not be black africans from the land originally but their nationality and birth right is south africa(also where would the coloreds be in this issue). To me it's too late to argue about this stuff, This issue should have been addressed 100's of years ago.
As a nigerian even though we were colonized by the british, we weren't so gullable to trust them. the british didn't even know we had oil until they gave us independence. I'm not against white south africans persa(but the ones that did the evil apartheid to the blacks in south africa, I am) but it seems to me that black south africans(shaka zulu) of the past trusted them so much to a point that they lost rights to their own home land which lead to them being used as second class citizens.

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