Italians are NOT White!!!!
Jeff

Natick, MA

#3740 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
White people crerated the bogus Med category to hide the truth.
A white man wrote this here:
Sicilians have 4.4% African mtDNA (maternal). But there is a lot more total African heritage.
It is likely that African DNA flow came from slaves brought into Rome who were mostly men. Sicily and southern Italy may have been the slave drop of points, and therefore would have the highest number of slaves.
I haven’t seen this proved anywhere, but it seems the most likely hypothesis based on DNA studies.
Acta Haematol. 1978;60(6):350-7.ican mutation. PMID: 103355 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Immunogenetics. 2004 Jan;55(10):674-81. Epub 2003 Dec 2.
Gm and Km immunoglobulin allotypes in Sicily.
Cerutti N, Dugoujon JM, Guitard E, Rabino Massa E.
Department of Animal and Human Biology, University of Turin, Via Accademia Albertina 17, 10123, Turin, Italy.
Y'all try and disprove that. LMAO!
The only bogus categories being created here to hide the truth is by Afroclowns like yourself. 4.4% African mtDNA is almost NONE EXISTING, dumbass. Northeast Africans have MORE Eurasian admixture then that, nearly 20%, guess that makes Northeast African NOT black, huh you Afrocentric idiot. </sarc>

Sickle doesn't trace origins of ancestry. Its an adaptive autosomal marker and useless in tracing genetic origins given they show more eviromental then genetic origins.

"The main disadvantage of adaptive autosomal markers is that they cannot tell what fraction of a population came from which ancestry. That HbS is found in, say, 10 percent of some European populations does not mean that ten percent have sub-Saharan ancestry; it may simply be that many of those lacking the trait in the past died without progeny due to malaria. Though widely used in the early days of population genetics, autosomal markers thought to be adaptive are today largely avoided because of their unreliability."

Sicilians and other S. Euros do not have any more 'African admixture' then any other Europeans do and in both its minuscule at best to NONE existing that doesn't change the ancestral origins of the general demographics of the populations being as European as everyone else. Stupid idiot, European Mediterranean people have as little to NO black admixture as other Europeans, attai the clown. Their skin tone has nothing to do with any black admixture since they carry less then 3% of it to NONE and everything to do with the fact that Southern Europeans carry the same alleles as all other Europeans when it comes to their pigmentations. I suggest you read the following study that shows black admixture in European Mediterranean people is practically NONE existing as it is through out Europe, attai the blackboi.

"In the PCA plot of the old world dataset (Mediterranean countries and Ivory Coast), the 13 populations from around the Mediterranean are clustered together while the Ivory Coast is positioned further away (Figure 3b). This plot revealed a clear separation between the North Africans and South Europeans along both PC1 and PC2. The North African samples are slightly closer to the sub-Saharan sample than are the European samples in PC1. This may reflect a higher genetic affinity of sub-Saharan Africa with North Africa than with South Europe, due to a potentially higher gene flow from the south of the Sahara towards North Africa. Clustering by population groups along the first two PCs (37.88% of the original variation) was again significant (Table 2)." The Mediterranean Sea as a barrier to gene flow
Jeff

Natick, MA

#3741 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is Miss Italia, a typical White person LMAO!
http://exame.abril.com.br/assets/pictures/347...
You are a pink clueless cave ape in his 50s that wishes he had to courage to back to scool and get his GED! LMAO!
That is a Brazilian Model, you stupid ass. She isn't Italian, but a mix babe who wasn't even born in Italy, you clueless Afrodumbass.

Here is a typical Italian, yeah a typical White Person since that is what Italians are, you ghettorat.
http://www.google.com/imgres...
ITK

Heilbronn, Germany

#3742 May 8, 2013
Hg S allele - Sickle Cell - Haemoglobin S

whatever you want to call it, turns out your 1979 study based on 67 Sicilians and the result of 11%, is OUT-Dated,

the newest Oford study concerning ALL of Sicily shows Sicily 0-6% Haemoglobin S; and Sickle cell having a broad Mediterranean presence

Map - Oxford Uni.- 2012
map http://www.ox.ac.uk/images/hi_res/15799_Sickl...

Study - Oxford Uni.- 2012
http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_releases_for_j...

you s'uck at solving mysteries!

Level 3

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#3743 May 8, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
The only bogus categories being created here to hide the truth is by Afroclowns like yourself. 4.4% African mtDNA is almost NONE EXISTING, dumbass. Northeast Africans have MORE Eurasian admixture then that, nearly 20%, guess that makes Northeast African NOT black, huh you Afrocentric idiot. </sarc>
Sickle doesn't trace origins of ancestry. Its an adaptive autosomal marker and useless in tracing genetic origins given they show more eviromental then genetic origins.
"The main disadvantage of adaptive autosomal markers is that they cannot tell what fraction of a population came from which ancestry. That HbS is found in, say, 10 percent of some European populations does not mean that ten percent have sub-Saharan ancestry; it may simply be that many of those lacking the trait in the past died without progeny due to malaria. Though widely used in the early days of population genetics, autosomal markers thought to be adaptive are today largely avoided because of their unreliability."
Sicilians and other S. Euros do not have any more 'African admixture' then any other Europeans do and in both its minuscule at best to NONE existing that doesn't change the ancestral origins of the general demographics of the populations being as European as everyone else. Stupid idiot, European Mediterranean people have as little to NO black admixture as other Europeans, attai the clown. Their skin tone has nothing to do with any black admixture since they carry less then 3% of it to NONE and everything to do with the fact that Southern Europeans carry the same alleles as all other Europeans when it comes to their pigmentations. I suggest you read the following study that shows black admixture in European Mediterranean people is practically NONE existing as it is through out Europe, attai the blackboi.
"In the PCA plot of the old world dataset (Mediterranean countries and Ivory Coast), the 13 populations from around the Mediterranean are clustered together while the Ivory Coast is positioned further away (Figure 3b). This plot revealed a clear separation between the North Africans and South Europeans along both PC1 and PC2. The North African samples are slightly closer to the sub-Saharan sample than are the European samples in PC1. This may reflect a higher genetic affinity of sub-Saharan Africa with North Africa than with South Europe, due to a potentially higher gene flow from the south of the Sahara towards North Africa. Clustering by population groups along the first two PCs (37.88% of the original variation) was again significant (Table 2)." The Mediterranean Sea as a barrier to gene flow
This is what it says. Read carefully.

[Sicilians have 4.4% African mtDNA (maternal). But there is a lot more total African heritage.]

4.4% is only maternal. But there is a LOT MORE AFRICAN HERITAGE! And yes, they link sickle cell trait to the African blood. It's only logical despite what your sun challened ass says.

Show me a northern European population with those percentages. You can't. Explain why sickle cell happens to be more common in southern Europe, you can't. You are just a big racist liar. Who has been exposed again! You are so easily dismanteld. LOL!
Mike

Merrimack, NH

#3744 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is Miss Italia, a typical White person LMAO!
http://exame.abril.com.br/assets/pictures/347...
You are a pink clueless cave ape in his 50s that wishes he had to courage to back to scool and get his GED! LMAO!
LOL! You fool, that is Silvia Novais. She's a Brazilian woman who is half black. Her grandparents on her father's side were Italian, but that's it.

Ahahahaha, you so obviously have no idea what you're talking about, you can't even get your examples right.

Level 3

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#3745 May 8, 2013
ITK wrote:
Hg S allele - Sickle Cell - Haemoglobin S
whatever you want to call it, turns out your 1979 study based on 67 Sicilians and the result of 11%, is OUT-Dated,
the newest Oford study concerning ALL of Sicily shows Sicily 0-6% Haemoglobin S; and Sickle cell having a broad Mediterranean presence
Map - Oxford Uni.- 2012
map http://www.ox.ac.uk/images/hi_res/15799_Sickl...
Study - Oxford Uni.- 2012
http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_releases_for_j...
you s'uck at solving mysteries!
You SUck at making a point, obviously. Scilians are more prone to SC than norweigians. Only one reason, AFRICA. That's where humanity, civilization comes from.

I know you hate it. But racism is bad for your health. It increases your chances of heart disease.

Level 3

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#3746 May 8, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! You fool, that is Silvia Novais. She's a Brazilian woman who is half black. Her grandparents on her father's side were Italian, but that's it.
Ahahahaha, you so obviously have no idea what you're talking about, you can't even get your examples right.
No, actually her name is Denny Méndez. I fooled you. You are Wrong, racist and dumb! Now go crawl back in your cave. LOL!

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/denny...
ITK

Heilbronn, Germany

#3747 May 8, 2013
Concerning sub-Saharan mtDNA in Sicily

Plaza et al 2003 = 0.6%[samples: 169]

Achilli et al 2007 = 1.9%[samples: 105]

Cali et al 2011 = 0.94%[samples: 106]

so your study from 1989 [Semino et al 1989] with the result of 4.4% is a little OUT-Dated and debunked. the range of sub-Saharan mtDNA in Sicily = 0.6 - 1.9%. and thats the double truth

also based on Semino et al 1989

Vona et al.(2001); American Journal Human Biology

In work carried out with restriction enzymes on mtDNA in a sample of Sicilians, Semino et al.(1989) indicated the presence (4.4%) of the African complex HpaI-3/AvaII-3 (40% in Senegal and in the Bantu of South Africa). The authors hypothesized a migration of genes from Africa to Sicily, estimated at about 10%, which was introduced into the Sicilian gene pool by Black slaves brought by the Phoenicians and the Romans and/or by Arab migrations. Results at the mtDNA sequencing level, however, >>> show no Black African influence in the Sicilian population.<<<
Jeff

Natick, MA

#3748 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what it says. Read carefully.
[Sicilians have 4.4% African mtDNA (maternal). But there is a lot more total African heritage.]
4.4% is only maternal. But there is a LOT MORE AFRICAN HERITAGE! And yes, they link sickle cell trait to the African blood. It's only logical despite what your sun challened ass says.
Show me a northern European population with those percentages. You can't. Explain why sickle cell happens to be more common in southern Europe, you can't. You are just a big racist liar. Who has been exposed again! You are so easily dismanteld. LOL!
The scientists I posted already explained to your dumbass that sickle cell doesn't trace any African blood, stupid.
Sickle doesn't trace origins of ancestry. Its an adaptive autosomal marker and useless in tracing genetic origins given they show more eviromental then genetic origins.

Read carefully what was written, you uneducated ghettorat:

"The main disadvantage of adaptive autosomal markers is that they cannot tell what fraction of a population came from which ancestry. That HbS is found in, say, 10 percent of some European populations does not mean that ten percent have sub-Saharan ancestry; it may simply be that many of those lacking the trait in the past died without progeny due to malaria. Though widely used in the early days of population genetics, autosomal markers thought to be adaptive are today largely avoided because of their unreliability."

4.4% African mtDNA is almost NONE EXISTING, dumbass. Northeast Africans have MORE Eurasian admixture then that, nearly 20%, guess that makes Northeast African NOT black, huh you Afrocentric idiot. </sarc>

Sicilians and other S. Euros do not have any more 'African admixture' then any other Europeans do and in both its minuscule at best to NONE existing that doesn't change the ancestral origins of the general demographics of the populations being as European as everyone else. Stupid idiot, European Mediterranean people have as little to NO black admixture as other Europeans, attai the clown. Their skin tone has nothing to do with any black admixture since they carry less then 3% of it to NONE and everything to do with the fact that Southern Europeans carry the same alleles as all other Europeans when it comes to their pigmentations. I suggest you read the following study that shows black admixture in European Mediterranean people is practically NONE existing as it is through out Europe.

"In the PCA plot of the old world dataset (Mediterranean countries and Ivory Coast), the 13 populations from around the Mediterranean are clustered together while the Ivory Coast is positioned further away (Figure 3b). This plot revealed a clear separation between the North Africans and South Europeans along both PC1 and PC2. The North African samples are slightly closer to the sub-Saharan sample than are the European samples in PC1. This may reflect a higher genetic affinity of sub-Saharan Africa with North Africa than with South Europe, due to a potentially higher gene flow from the south of the Sahara towards North Africa. Clustering by population groups along the first two PCs (37.88% of the original variation) was again significant (Table 2)." The Mediterranean Sea as a barrier to gene flow
ITK

Heilbronn, Germany

#3749 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
You SUck at making a point, obviously. Scilians are more prone to SC than norweigians. Only one reason, AFRICA. That's where humanity, civilization comes from.
I know you hate it. But racism is bad for your health. It increases your chances of heart disease.
Norwegians are of the Nordic [Caucasoid] sub-race and Sicilians are of the Mediterranid [Caucasoid] sub-race.

Given their locations, NOT much of a surprise.

So whats your point you freak?
Jeff

Natick, MA

#3750 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
You SUck at making a point, obviously. Scilians are more prone to SC than norweigians. Only one reason, AFRICA. That's where humanity, civilization comes from.
I know you hate it. But racism is bad for your health. It increases your chances of heart disease.
No he made his point with the scientific studies he provided, YOU suck at understanding them. There are sub Saharan Africans who carry Cystic fibrosis, a disorder more common in Caucasians...guess that makes those black Africans white cause they have white ancestors, right dumbass. </sarc> Your inability to understand human genomes and disorders only proves what an uneducated Afrodumbass you are.

Sickle doesn't trace origins of ancestry. Its an adaptive autosomal marker and useless in tracing genetic origins given they show more eviromental then genetic origins. Read carefully what was written, you uneducated ghettorat:

"The main disadvantage of adaptive autosomal markers is that they cannot tell what fraction of a population came from which ancestry. That HbS is found in, say, 10 percent of some European populations does not mean that ten percent have sub-Saharan ancestry; it may simply be that many of those lacking the trait in the past died without progeny due to malaria. Though widely used in the early days of population genetics, autosomal markers thought to be adaptive are today largely avoided because of their unreliability."
Jeff

Natick, MA

#3751 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
No, actually her name is Denny Méndez. I fooled you. You are Wrong, racist and dumb! Now go crawl back in your cave. LOL!
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/denny...
No you fooled yourself, and proven to us what an idiot you are. Denny Mendez is not Italian either, dumbass, she is from the Dominican Republic, just another immigrant.

REAL Miss Italys are white since you know that is what Italians are, you self hating reject.
http://www.google.com/imgres...

Now how about you crawl back to whatever rock you crawled out of, sh!tforbrains.
Mike

Merrimack, NH

#3752 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
No, actually her name is Denny Méndez. I fooled you. You are Wrong, racist and dumb! Now go crawl back in your cave. LOL!
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/denny...
WAHAHAHAHA!

No, that first woman you linked is Silvia Novais, who is half black.

The woman you JUST linked is Denny Mendez who is DOMINICAN (of African ancestry.)

WAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're so oblivious.
The African Queen

Brooklyn, NY

#3754 May 8, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! You are out of your mind. Those sources in Wikipedia are all academically cited, THAT is the actual proportion of natural blonde hair in Italy.
White people are not albinos, that is a racist Afrocentrist fantasy that is so scientifically absurd and has absolutely no basis in reality that it's hardly worth addressing. The blonde haired Italians are not albinos, white people are not albinos. Albinism is a measurable genetic defect, white people can have albino offspring as well.... so what are those, albino albinos?? Ahahaha. Albinism is a complete lack of Melanin, ALL white people, every single person non-albino white person on Earth, have varying degrees Melanin.
Italians and Greeks are mixed with Puerto Ricans? What on Earth are you rambling on about?!?
Your concept of Italian people is absolutely ridiculous, sorry.
Did I say that white people are albinos from my text. Even though white people ARE a fixed albino race. Know your history! Don't let the media fool you now. White people are a genetic mutation of black people just like albinos are a genetic mutation. I can tell yall a whole bunch of things about your race that the history books don't tell yall and the media tries to hide. And Wikipedia is NOT a credible source of information
Jesus C the Impaler

Bucharest, Romania

#3756 May 8, 2013
Everyone should stop arguing with this retarded chimp,facts aren't going to change anyway.Italians are white.
The African Queen

Brooklyn, NY

#3757 May 8, 2013
P.S. please go back and read my post thoroughly. Did I say that Italians, Greeks, were mixed with Puerto Ricans?...
Jeff

Natick, MA

#3758 May 8, 2013
The African Queen wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I say that white people are albinos from my text. Even though white people ARE a fixed albino race. Know your history! Don't let the media fool you now. White people are a genetic mutation of black people just like albinos are a genetic mutation. I can tell yall a whole bunch of things about your race that the history books don't tell yall and the media tries to hide. And Wikipedia is NOT a credible source of information
Typical Afrocentirc nonsense. Yes you did say white people are albinos from your text and you said AGAIN in your above post, dumbass, even calling them " a genetic mutation of black people just like albinos", this alone proves you as an uneducated buffoon. The funny thing is YOU telling someone to know their history when they can run circles around your empty head. Oh and Wikipedia has more credibility then you do.
Jeff

Natick, MA

#3759 May 8, 2013
The African Queen wrote:
P.S. please go back and read my post thoroughly. Did I say that Italians, Greeks, were mixed with Puerto Ricans?...
We read what you wrote, and its still pure nonsense. Greeks and Italians are mixed with other EUROS. Deal with it and stop trying to talk about Europeans who you have no clue about.
Mike

Merrimack, NH

#3760 May 8, 2013
The African Queen wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I say that white people are albinos from my text. Even though white people ARE a fixed albino race. Know your history! Don't let the media fool you now. White people are a genetic mutation of black people just like albinos are a genetic mutation. I can tell yall a whole bunch of things about your race that the history books don't tell yall and the media tries to hide. And Wikipedia is NOT a credible source of information
The lighter skin of white people, Asian people, and Arab people has nothing whatsoever to do with albinism and it has been scientifically proven so. Many East Asian people (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) have even whiter/paler skin than many white people, and likewise that has absolutely nothing to do with being "albinos." Albinism is a specific genetic defect that is scientifically measurable and manifests itself through a complete lack of melanin. White people can also have ACTUAL albino offspring, how is a race that is, according to you, already a "Fixed albino" race also give birth to actual albinos? What does that make those, albino albinos? You are a complete idiot.

Also, EVERY part of human evolution is due to genetic mutations, genetic mutations are not necessarily "bad." Genetic mutations arise and are amplified through natural selection - human intelligence is ALSO a result of genetic mutations from our earliest ancestors. The protection from many diseases arises through genetic mutations. Our ability to generate the sounds necessary to vocalize and form speech is the direct result of genetic mutations from our hominid ancestors.

And you said:
The African Queen wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone knows that Italians and Greeks are mixed with so many different races such as Puerto Ricans.
So, yes, that's what you said. Learn proper grammar and sentence structure if you don't want to be "misunderstood."
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#3761 May 8, 2013
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is an Italian woman of American housewives. Tell me she looks White, you liar!
.../melissa-gorga-300.jpg
You know you a lying bitch!
She's a mixed Italian Hispanic Yank chick born in the ole Yankland. ;-D Get lost w/ this crap, ya retarded Yank monkey coon. ;-)

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