Race in America: Why are blacks being...

Race in America: Why are blacks being seen as racists?

There are 9913 comments on the Washington Times story from Jul 8, 2013, titled Race in America: Why are blacks being seen as racists?. In it, Washington Times reports that:

WASHINGTON , July 8, 2013 - Last week's Rasmussen poll revealed some surprising and disturbing information about the way Americans think about race in America.

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Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#1171 Jul 21, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Jessie Jackson Sr., Al Sharpton, & the NAACP are the ones that are Humiliating Trayvon Martin's family with their nationwide Race Rallies.
I know nothing about any of that. Again, I am not interested in it. Take it to a red neck forum.
Osama Obama

Shippensburg, PA

#1172 Jul 21, 2013
Saw the NAACP president on the news.He couln't name one single murder victim out of 51 that was killed in Chicago since the trial started.Not even the young girl that visited the White House then got shot acouple days later. That says it all.

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Since: Aug 11

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#1173 Jul 21, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Fool, I do not know anything about any of that. As a rule anything involving law enforcement or murders does not interest me much. I am not interested in the Zimmerman thing at all. You phaggs are bring that to me. I do not want it.
I know am not the Phagg, its the Pseudo Liberal News Media along with Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson Sr, and the NAACP who are Phaggs if you ask me and why I say that is because the Pseudo Liberal News Media Focused so much attention on George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case vs the Scott-Cervini case is that I do believe the Pseudo Liberal News Media was trying to label George Zimmerman as Hispanic and were trying to start race problems between the Hispanics and the Blacks and not the whites but when it came out that Zimmerman has a Peruvian mother and a White father it backfired on the Pseudo Liberal News Media but either way they are keeping racism alive.

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Since: Aug 11

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#1174 Jul 21, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
I know nothing about any of that. Again, I am not interested in it. Take it to a red neck forum.
you have to know it, it is all over the news networks and including the Internet so take it to a black red neck forum.
Osama Obama

Shippensburg, PA

#1175 Jul 21, 2013
Obama said he has heard car locks when he crossed the streets go down 35 years ago before he was a Senator.Hell I wouldn't have been afraid of him robbing me then.Now that I have seen what kind of a no good liar and theif he is,yea only a fool wouldn't lock the door.
early cuylers

Mobile, AL

#1176 Jul 21, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Idiot, go watch that movie called Amistad. Those Africans were returned to Africa byway of Morocco. Morocco was the transit for people going into Africa, not coming out of it. In other words, Morocco had nothing to do with the slave trade because it was a Muslim country. The same is true in the east. Somalia had nothing to do with the slave trade because it was Muslim. Somalia was the first Muslim nation in history. Somalia is black African. But "black means nothing in this context because Somalis are genetic identical to Egyptians. I already proved to you that Egyptians have ALWAYS been a combination of blacks and browns. You racism has not place in understanding any part of Africa. Remember, racism was invented by the American white man. It cannot be used in analyzing Africa. You will get it wrong every time.
Wrong again idiot. A movie is just that stupid, a movie. More revisionist negro ignorance. Somalia first muslim nation??? You dumb ass. You fools will accept any lie that falls out of a sub Saharan black ass mouth. fool.

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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#1177 Jul 21, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Idiot, go watch that movie called Amistad. Those Africans were returned to Africa byway of Morocco. Morocco was the transit for people going into Africa, not coming out of it. In other words, Morocco had nothing to do with the slave trade because it was a Muslim country. The same is true in the east. Somalia had nothing to do with the slave trade because it was Muslim. Somalia was the first Muslim nation in history. Somalia is black African. But "black means nothing in this context because Somalis are genetic identical to Egyptians. I already proved to you that Egyptians have ALWAYS been a combination of blacks and browns. You racism has not place in understanding any part of Africa. Remember, racism was invented by the American white man. It cannot be used in analyzing Africa. You will get it wrong every time.
Wrong about Racism.

Thursday, January 07, 2010

"Racist" -- A Word Invented by USSR's Leon Trotsky

What surprisingly remains almost totally undiscussed, even on the hard core traditionalist Right, is the word's origin. Did it come from a liberal sociologist? A 60's Marxist college professor? Perhaps a politician in the Democratic Party? No. It turns out that the word was invented by none other than one of the principal architects of the 74-year Soviet nightmare, the founder and first leader of the infamous Red Army, Leon Trotsky.

http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2010/01/racist-...

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#1178 Jul 21, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I know am not the Phagg, its the Pseudo Liberal News Media along with Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson Sr, and the NAACP who are Phaggs if you ask me and why I say that is because the Pseudo Liberal News Media Focused so much attention on George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case vs the Scott-Cervini case is that I do believe the Pseudo Liberal News Media was trying to label George Zimmerman as Hispanic and were trying to start race problems between the Hispanics and the Blacks and not the whites but when it came out that Zimmerman has a Peruvian mother and a White father it backfired on the Pseudo Liberal News Media but either way they are keeping racism alive.
Dude, it is simply not about race. Zimmerman is a cold blooded and cowardly hired killer. It does not matter if he is black, brown, red purple or poker dot. A 17 year old boy was unjustly shot down. That is all this is about: injustice and violation of the constitution. If you want to be seen as a patriot, you have no choice but to uphold the constitution. It tells one citizen how to respect and relate to another citizen. You cannot tell me that I must leave the country. You cannot tell me that my rights are less sacred than your rights or Zimmerman's rights. I won't take it.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#1179 Jul 21, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>you have to know it, it is all over the news networks and including the Internet so take it to a black red neck forum.
I do not have time for that crap. I am a very busy person. I have to prioritize. responding to you is a waste of my time. I have better things to do. All I want to do is let black people know that black racism is wrong. You need to go and let Zimmerman and his type know that white racism is wrong. I am too busy for that. My purpose is to solve the problems that hold this entire country back by holding black people black

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#1180 Jul 21, 2013
early cuylers wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again idiot. A movie is just that stupid, a movie. More revisionist negro ignorance. Somalia first muslim nation??? You dumb ass. You fools will accept any lie that falls out of a sub Saharan black ass mouth. fool.
The movie gives you an insight into history. It shows you how the screenwriters interpreted it. You do not have to agree with it. But you need to see that the slave trade did not exists in some parts of Africa. And it was those parts where the majority are not blacks where it did not exist.

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Since: Aug 11

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#1181 Jul 21, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, it is simply not about race. Zimmerman is a cold blooded and cowardly hired killer. It does not matter if he is black, brown, red purple or poker dot. A 17 year old boy was unjustly shot down. That is all this is about: injustice and violation of the constitution. If you want to be seen as a patriot, you have no choice but to uphold the constitution. It tells one citizen how to respect and relate to another citizen. You cannot tell me that I must leave the country. You cannot tell me that my rights are less sacred than your rights or Zimmerman's rights. I won't take it.
Dude Zimmerman shot Martin in Self defense unlike Roderick Scott who shot Christopher Cervini who never physically touch Scott which some news outlets are now starting to pick up on the Christopher Cervini case and the injustice that was done definitely there for some reason or is because it was a black man that shot a innocent 17 year old white and why it wasnt reported like the Martin/Zimmerman case and if you ask me the blacks are going to go down hard for these rallies.

Roderick Scott: The ‘Black George Zimmerman’ Acquitted of Murder in 2009

Three Teens Breaking into Cars

During the early morning hours of April 4, 2009, 42-year-old Roderick Scott was asleep on the couch of his Greece, New York home, just outside of Rochester. He was awakened by some noise outside.

Scott looked out the window and saw three teens attempting to break into his car. He grabbed his gun, for which he had a legal permit, put it in his waistband and told his girlfriend to call 911 before going outside.

When Scott went out, he confronted the youths, who were going through a neighbor’s car. According to Scott, he told them to stop and wait for the police. The incident ended after Scott fired two shots at Christopher Cervini, killing him.

What Happened? Accounts Differ

According to 15-year-old James Cervini, one of the three, and Christopher’s cousin, Scott shot Christopher after the teen yelled,“Please don’t shoot me, I’m just a kid.” Scott, who testified in his own defense, said he only fired after Christopher came running at him in a threatening manner.

http://www.decodedscience.com/roderick-scott-...

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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#1182 Jul 21, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not have time for that crap. I am a very busy person. I have to prioritize. responding to you is a waste of my time. I have better things to do. All I want to do is let black people know that black racism is wrong. You need to go and let Zimmerman and his type know that white racism is wrong. I am too busy for that. My purpose is to solve the problems that hold this entire country back by holding black people black
you cant be that busy trying to deny & twist the true facts.
watnogwavy

Sydney, Australia

#1184 Jul 21, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, it is simply not about race. Zimmerman is a cold blooded and cowardly hired killer. It does not matter if he is black, brown, red purple or poker dot. A 17 year old boy was unjustly shot down. That is all this is about: injustice and violation of the constitution. If you want to be seen as a patriot, you have no choice but to uphold the constitution. It tells one citizen how to respect and relate to another citizen. You cannot tell me that I must leave the country. You cannot tell me that my rights are less sacred than your rights or Zimmerman's rights. I won't take it.
I've heard two sides of this and I'm honestly as confused as I was at the start.

1) Zimmerman was playing cops, called it in, was advised not to follow but followed> confronted Martin. Martin was complaining about being followed for no reason and when confronted by Zimmerman, Martin was attempting to defend himself. In the ensuing scuffle Martin screamed and was killed with a single shot. Zimmerman was left with two black eyes, a fractured nose, split lip and back injury from Martin defending himself.
Those in this camp say Martin was the one embracing the "stand your ground" defence and ended up murdered.
Those in this camp say Martin was a 17y year defenceless boy minding his own business walking back from purchasing items when he was racially profiled and pursued, ultimately shot dead in cold blood.

2)Zimmerman was in his vehicle and noticed what he felt was a suspicious person, called it in was advised not to follow but did so, keeping a reasonable distance and non physical approach.
Martin referred to Zimmerman whilst on the phone,at various stages, as Zimmerman as a cracka and a N**ga whilst he was on the phone leading to some to conclude Martin was aggressive and racist. Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle when Martin double backed and confronted Zimmerman and physical attacked him. In the ensuing struggle, Martin ended up on top straddling Zimmerman and proceeded to beat him, Zimmerman screamed for help and shot Martin in self defense.
Those in this camp say Trayvon Martin was the aggressor, which is backed up by forensics which point to Zimmerman being on his back when the shot was fired and with the injuries Zimmerman sustained substantiates that he was on the end of a beating. An ex army personnel identifying that it was Zimmerman not Martin who was screaming for help. In this camp they say that Zimmerman shot in defence of his life and that biased reporting has deliberately tried to present Martin as a small child and invoking the race card. In this camp those are saying Trayvon was six foot with some mma experience and far from the innocent child that some are attempting to present.

*Zimmerman has allegedly accusations of domestic violence
*Zimmerman allegedly has a record of "resisting officer without violence".
*Zimmerman was allegedly 5 ft 7 and weighed at that time 9 kg heavier than Trayvon Martin
*Zimmerman allegedly refers to himself as Hispanic.
*Trayvon was approximately six foot
*Trayvon had allegedly multiple suspensions involving fights and illicit material in his schoolbag
*Trayvon allegedly had texts indicating a history of fighting
*Trayvon's had allegedly kicked him out of home
*Trayvon allegedly had firearms and posed with them
*Trayvon allegedly had a history of drug use and at time of death drugs were allegedly found in his system.

(Sorry, I know the "allegedly" bit is wearing thin, but I don't really know for sure factual vs non factual.

So it appears that neither party were entirely flawless beings.
Is it possible there is a little bit of truth from both sides of this?
mea

United States

#1185 Jul 21, 2013
Young Martin's toxicology report was not allowed in court. The jury never heard that young Martin had dope in his system.

The burden of proof was on the prosecution and they did not prove their case that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. Due process was issued.

This case was NOT about race. However, the "community"/activist s said that it WAS about race.

They needed something to rally around to gain political strength. THEY were blinded by color of skin...no one else was.

So, it is beyond me just how any thinking normal person could not conclude that the 'community'/activists were not racially motivated for political reasons.

Oh, and Tell Mr. J. Fox that he can clean up his language. He is NOT amusing.
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#1186 Jul 22, 2013
Nicole wrote:
You don't want to say things that will peg you as a racist- it just makes it easier for the people who keep pushing the crap. I can understand the anger believe me, and I'm black. I remember when I was living in Pennsylvania, and I had this stupid pathetic thug boy, come up behind me and ask me if I were in the Crips or Bloods.

I wanted to tear him apart I was so angry. He didn't stab me, which often happens when you say no or the wrong gang; because I had too many of my friends around me, and there was an officer at the entrance of the arcade I was in (we were having a game tournament).

I was very angry you couldn't even imagine, because when I had moved to the area I was in (Stroudsburg),it was nice... Unfortunately we started having trash move into the area, and bring that crap along with them, and soon there was a little gang problem.(I was still in high school at the time). When the creep left, I immediately reported him to the officer who was at the entrance, because no doubt he would have tried to kill me had he seen me alone. I worried a lot about my brother who worked at the arcade, but the officer told me he's always at the entrance and always watches.

Most effective thing to do is call out the white leftist who coddle and excuse this kind of behavior and mentality projected by blacks- who keep tearing the black community down. Turn the tables on the silly white leftist who protect them, let them know that they are the real racist- for wanting to ignore, and excuse the behavior, stand with the blacks who also call this kind of trash out- but if you throw racism back at them, they will easily silence you.

My brother in law, who is white- was being verbally attacked by silly white liberals, because he does not agree with minimum wage being raised. He simply said "I'm not a racist, so I don't agree with it"- when he explained how it hurts people trying to enter the work force,(especially young people) but mostly young blacks- they quickly shut their mouths and backed off.
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#1187 Jul 22, 2013
Said it once, and I'll say it again...

Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch guy- and doing exactly what a neighborhood watch guy is supposed to do.

He wasn't told to stay in the car, or told not to follow. I don't know why people keep telling that pathetic lie. The records clearly show that when Zimmerman did get out of his car and was following (but then lost him), he dispatcher asked if he was following. Zimmerman replies "yes", the dispatcher then tells him "We don't need you to do that", and Zimmerman starts going back to his car- by this time Trayvon is now 20 seconds away from his father's house.

However Trayvon decides to go back, to the area Zimmerman was in, to fight him- which makes a lot of sense being the drug lean he was on, makes you extremely aggressive. It also destroys your liver, which Trayvon's autopsy reports show; he had considerable liver damage; and I highly doubt he became an alcoholic at 12... Trayvon also loved confrontation and fighting (that aggression), and boasted an awful lot about fights, and making people bleed on his Twitter page.

He was an undisciplined child, who sadly embraced and emulated thug culture the way unfortunately so many young blacks do- and unfortunate for him, attacked someone who had a gun, and used it; end of story.
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#1188 Jul 22, 2013
Ok... Work is done for tonight, very sleepy; and people please stop listening to that little troll Abdurratln- he's a sad little wanker, pathetic trash, like Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, every other race hustling clown- "President" Obama now included in that list- injecting himself the way he did, instead of giving a speech a real leader would in this kind of situation- to bring people together, instead of further dividing.

(watch the IRS come after me now lol)
wotnogwavy

Hornsby, Australia

#1189 Jul 22, 2013
mea wrote:
Young Martin's toxicology report was not allowed in court. The jury never heard that young Martin had dope in his system.
The burden of proof was on the prosecution and they did not prove their case that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. Due process was issued.
This case was NOT about race. However, the "community"/activist s said that it WAS about race.
They needed something to rally around to gain political strength. THEY were blinded by color of skin...no one else was.
So, it is beyond me just how any thinking normal person could not conclude that the 'community'/activists were not racially motivated for political reasons.
Oh, and Tell Mr. J. Fox that he can clean up his language. He is NOT amusing.
"Young Martin's toxicology report was not allowed in court. The jury never heard that young Martin had dope in his system."

So in this instance, there is no 'allegedly" re: the drugs in his system, it is factual that an official toxicology report confirmed this.
Excuse my ignorance, but do you know why wasn't that evidence allowed in court?

"The burden of proof was on the prosecution and they did not prove their case that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. Due process was issued."

Was this due to Zimmerman not being charged with manslaughter but rather second degree murder?(Australian laws are different)
wotnogwavy

Hornsby, Australia

#1191 Jul 22, 2013
Ink_knight wrote:
Said it once, and I'll say it again...
Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch guy- and doing exactly what a neighborhood watch guy is supposed to do.
He wasn't told to stay in the car, or told not to follow. I don't know why people keep telling that pathetic lie. The records clearly show that when Zimmerman did get out of his car and was following (but then lost him), he dispatcher asked if he was following. Zimmerman replies "yes", the dispatcher then tells him "We don't need you to do that", and Zimmerman starts going back to his car- by this time Trayvon is now 20 seconds away from his father's house.
However Trayvon decides to go back, to the area Zimmerman was in, to fight him- which makes a lot of sense being the drug lean he was on, makes you extremely aggressive. It also destroys your liver, which Trayvon's autopsy reports show; he had considerable liver damage; and I highly doubt he became an alcoholic at 12... Trayvon also loved confrontation and fighting (that aggression), and boasted an awful lot about fights, and making people bleed on his Twitter page.
He was an undisciplined child, who sadly embraced and emulated thug culture the way unfortunately so many young blacks do- and unfortunate for him, attacked someone who had a gun, and used it; end of story.
"He wasn't told to stay in the car, or told not to follow. I don't know why people keep telling that pathetic lie."
So I gather that one is down to internet/urban myth?

"Zimmerman starts going back to his car- by this time Trayvon is now 20 seconds away from his father's house.
However Trayvon decides to go back, to the area Zimmerman was in"

Interesting. That was established for sure?

I tell you why this is so confusing, when you read excerpts like this from local and international media:

"Mr Zimmerman called police, claiming Trayvon looked suspicious. The dispatcher told him to wait for officers to arrive.“Fucking punks,” said Mr Zimmerman.“They always get away.”

What happened next may never be clear. Prosecutors said Mr Zimmerman left his car to pursue Trayvon on foot. Mr Zimmerman’s lawyers claimed Trayvon confronted and attacked their client, knocking him to the ground, striking his head on the pavement and reaching for his gun. The altercation ended with Mr Zimmerman firing a shot from his 9mm pistol that hit Trayvon in the chest."

You can then see why the confusion abounds trying to see what is rhetoric, lies or truth.

I would say in Australia, it's been mixed, but mainstream here has used, what I am lead to believe is a five year old photo of Trayvon when he was about ?12.
I hope, regardless, that unbiased reporting that is factually correct is done.
The One

Denton, TX

#1193 Jul 22, 2013
Rational Poster wrote:
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Some white people are incapable of empathy, some man. There were whites who fought alongside your people in this country dying so that you could stand in line with them to cast a vote. I'm sick of this crap with you cowards. You cowards are anyone making excuses. I didn't own your [email protected], my parents nor grandparents did any harm to blacks. You brush every white person the same because deep down maybe it is you who is incapable of empathy as an individual. A white man in Georgia of all places literally died saving a little black girl's life when she was drowning I believe or in a fire. Tell that guy's family about showing no empathy. You will never be satisfied and I'm afraid that hypothetically speaking if you people found out that God was white you'd hate him too. Misery loves no one and blacks like you are the definition of misery. Where's the empathy for you all everytime a black kid dies by the hands of a black gang member or thug? Your empathy even then doesn't appear. Race is above everything with you, above God even. Whites created this thing called race for the purpose of division and it worked with you. See how you're still allowing whites to control your mind man? You can't even see it which is the saddest part.
I agree with most of your post. However, in your frustration you have just done what you accused the previous poster of doing; you have painted us all with a brad brush. We aren't all the same. We don't all look the same. We don't all sound the same. I hope that that still reaches you, even through your anger.

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