Race in America: Why are blacks being...

Race in America: Why are blacks being seen as racists?

There are 9913 comments on the Washington Times story from Jul 8, 2013, titled Race in America: Why are blacks being seen as racists?. In it, Washington Times reports that:

WASHINGTON , July 8, 2013 - Last week's Rasmussen poll revealed some surprising and disturbing information about the way Americans think about race in America.

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wotnogwavy

Rhodes, Australia

#638 Jul 18, 2013
Ink_knight wrote:
Immediately I was ridiculed over the way I looked. I wasn't dressed like a thug, I had spiky white hair.. In the school I went to that was predominately white- people thought I looked so cool,(though I'm the kind who doesn't much care what others think- except my family of course or closest friends).
They thought I looked like an anime character- they'd always call me a real life anime character it was funny. In the predominately black school however, I was supposed to be gay, because black guys aren't supposed to be into metal music. "WHAT? You speak other languages?" "What country are you from, because you don't sound like a real black guy". Sad thing is, it wasn't just students behaving this way towards me, but teachers too- adults!
I was looked at, and treated as some kind of oddity lol- I wasn't depressed or anything, I thought it was hilarious. Of course none of the girls wanted to date me, and I was always called "white boy". Then they had the nerve to get mad, when a white girl came to the school, who was a metal head like me, started hanging out with me, and later dating me (still together), and sometimes we'd cut (shhhh) and sneak into CBGB's (her brother worked there). It was out of this world their behavior, and when they found out I had white people in my family- oh it was non stop with the stupid racism.
Later I moved to Pennsylvania- mixed school, I liked that- I like diversity. The security guards were actual cops, and I noticed the kids who were moving from NY/NJ who were all thugged up, ALWAYS had trouble with them.
One day I was late, and rushing to class, and the officer came up to me- and I expected him to be a dick, not because I'm black, but because I was late. He goes "you're that game designer kid right?" I'm like "yeah". He starts going on and on about how his son is trying to get into that, he's walking with me and talking-gets one of the admin to write a pass for me- tells me to have a good day, I say the same back to him, which kinda shocked him- because black or white, people were disrespectful to those guys a lot- and I wasn't raised to be like that.
Not suppose to be into metal music because you're black??? Well somebody should go and tell all the dudes singing and playing in metal bands they can't do that cause they are black. lol

As far as I know, black people can be as individual as say, a white person, vice versa. Mate, just be yourself, when you hit your forties like I am, you'll realise having angst over what other random people may or may not think of you means jack.
The ONLY people that count in life is family and those special friends you make along the way.

I have a son into metal, a daughter who is a petite pretty 18 year old blonde blue eyed girl that *looks* the "type " that would follow Beiber (there, said the distasteful word...lol) but is into Iron Maiden, Ghost and a host of others whose names escape me. She has also copped flack from peers for her non conformist tastes, but now doesn't give a hoot. The remaining daughter has a range of tastes from classical to country and western, but hates metal.
You sound like you've got your head screwed on and unlike others are not sheep like in behaviour. Good for you!!

“Happiness comes through giving”

Level 7

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#639 Jul 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Think they can overcome, last years FBI investigation of George, that found zero racial bias....might get in the way?
Either way, it should be looked into.
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#640 Jul 18, 2013
Bro wrote:
...for starters, when the situation doesn't go the way they want it, they pull out the typical "Race Card" & start waving it around & when that doesn't work, they throw temper tantrums and start attacking all races with childish riots & destroy their own neighborhoods. Shows the true mentality of the race your dealing with.
So true, and its embarrassing. Especially since they are all being used by leftist- who have ALWAYS kept race problems in America alive, and always pull tactics to distort, distract, divide, and destroy- and so many blacks foolishly fall for it every time.

Get them all riled up about Trayvon Martin, meanwhile silence over the kid in Chicago or Detroit being shot as I type this. All this to distract from the real problems this country faces, due to a ideological, horrible president. Get them riled up, so nobody pays attention to the scandals going on. Get them worked up so they turn out and vote for Democrats in 2014. LOL When are blacks going to learn that Democrats do not care about them, never have- never will.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#641 Jul 18, 2013
Ink_knight wrote:
<quoted text>
Your statement shows part of what is wrong with the black community... Living in the past.
Slavery sucks, but there isn't one group of people on this earth, who hasn't been a slave at one point in history. There was a period in which Africans enslaved whites, and Asians, even traded with the Vikings (I love history, REAL history, not the BS leftist teach).
GET OVER IT.
B-word, poverty is a direct result of our not being paid during slavery. Therefore, the only solution to poverty is to go back to slavery and fix the slavery problem in American culture. As it relates to whites, they have to go back to feudalism.

We can NEVER afford to forget history.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#642 Jul 18, 2013
Ink_knight wrote:
<quoted text>
And what do you mean by African Nation? I'm an American- not an African. I do for my family first- how I carry myself is a representation of my family. I do for my country when I help in my community with charity work, white or black I help people in need.
Blacks need to stop worshiping their race/skin, its sickening.
Then stop complaining about being called a cracker or an oreo. Obviously you are one. You just said you are one.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#643 Jul 18, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not African, but I'm with you anyway.
Thank you. I can deal with whites better than I can deal with black cowards and Uncle Toms.
Bro

Bardstown, KY

#644 Jul 18, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
White people just don't understand and they never will and probably don't care to understand what racism feels like. Growing up and having to deal with discrimination and ignorance from people who judge you because your skin has a darker tent. They think being called a honky, cracker, etc is hurtful, but there's no real painful history behind those words like the n word. They all just say history was so long ago, Why ya'll always playing the race card, ya'll say the n word why can't we. Honestly whites probably don't get that hurt over it because at the end of the day they are still the majority, still the face of beauty in American, and still are white privileged.
If the African American race is SO hurt by the painful history of the "n" word, then why do the majority of them continue to use it on a daily basis regardless of the terrible history. You would think the black community would rise up and stop using such a hateful word between each other & set an example for the younger generations & the rest of the world.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#645 Jul 18, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Then stop complaining about being called a cracker or an oreo. Obviously you are one. You just said you are one.
Then you shouldn't get upset when we go jig fishing.

Level 1

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#646 Jul 18, 2013
Bro wrote:
<quoted text>
If the African American race is SO hurt by the painful history of the "n" word, then why do the majority of them continue to use it on a daily basis regardless of the terrible history. You would think the black community would rise up and stop using such a hateful word between each other & set an example for the younger generations & the rest of the world.
the N word is portuguese and when translated into english it means Black.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#647 Jul 18, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>And what the eff was Zimmerman doing if not following Treyvon?

F-you, idiot.
I guess you have reading comprehension problems. Is that the white MSM's fault too?

Here, let me help you a little bit. Repeatedly means more than once. Malicious means to intend malice, not to surveil as a neighborhood watchman.

Typical of a liberal. Pick one word out of a definition to hang your hat on.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#648 Jul 18, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you shouldn't get upset when we go jig fishing.
F-you.

Obviously, it is time to go to another thread. I am not enjoying the company of all these racist phaggs and idiots like you.
Dirty Underwear

Arkadelphia, AR

#650 Jul 18, 2013
It's just time to put the past behind us, forgive and forget, and go on from here, side by side, not as black and white, but as God's children.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#651 Jul 18, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess you have reading comprehension problems. Is that the white MSM's fault too?
Here, let me help you a little bit. Repeatedly means more than once. Malicious means to intend malice, not to surveil as a neighborhood watchman.
Typical of a liberal. Pick one word out of a definition to hang your hat on.
That is nothing but confusion. Common sense means that when the police tells you not to follow someone and you follow them anyhow, you are outside the law. You are in violation. And as far as legal definitions are concerned, you are stalking. But I did not sue that word for legal definition. I used it fclarity to indicate that Zimmerman was indisputably BREAKING THE LAW.
wotnogwavy

Rhodes, Australia

#652 Jul 18, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
B-word, poverty is a direct result of our not being paid during slavery. Therefore, the only solution to poverty is to go back to slavery and fix the slavery problem in American culture. As it relates to whites, they have to go back to feudalism.
We can NEVER afford to forget history.
There is no "fix" that anybody can offer. Ultimately it will be the drive and ambition of the individual that will change the course of their own lives.

Here in Australia, there is a HUGELY disproportionate amount of violence within the Aboriginal community. There is a largely disproportionate amount of health problems, substance abuse, diabetes, kidney/heart ; there is a disproportionate ratio of Aboriginals(Kooris) unemployed; incarcerated. Well you get the picture.
There are available, ABORIGINAL ONLY:
food and cooking educational programmes; Aboriginal targeted employment; training opportunities; substance abuse services; Aboriginal only community buses; Aboriginal only pre schools; Aboriginal children are PAID to attend school; vast tracts of aboriginal land handed back; brand new houses and infrastructure built (that looked trashed within six months due to the ongoing substance abuse and violence issues) etc etc...

Basically vast amounts of money have been poured into "fixing" the problems within the Koori community all to no avail.

Sections of that community are at loggerheads.
Some of the Aboriginal community say that the successive Governments have created generations of a welfare community through handouts and various failed programmes and schemes. They want there community members to become self sufficient and regain independence without being on welfare and stop counting on everybody else to fix THEIR problems.

The other side say that successive Governments don't do enough monetary wise but rankle at "white fella" interference at the same time. They also hold modern day Australia (rightly or wrongly) accountable for two hundred year old wrongs.

Basically, the black community cannot decide itself what exactly should be done.

Australia has become so politically correct and fearful of the "racist" word being directed at them, that children at risk in those communities are turned a blind eye lest another 'stolen generation' be foisted upon them again. It's a political football that NOBODY wants to touch, in the meantime, as per usual it is the innocents that will suffer.

Personally I have no 'answers', but Australia's history is a bit different in that the English sent it's own people in chains as convicts for the slightest of transgressions, eg poaching a rabbit on a landholder's property to feed your starving family.
Mind you, we did get a fair share of cut throats as well.
The point is, some early Governors of Australia, treated Aboriginals, whom were still seen by many as 'primitive natives' actually better then the average English/Irish/Scottish white convict. The mortality rate for convicts was atrocious, yet despite this dubious start and a hatred for the original colonists, many went onto not only survive, but generations prospered.
Poverty forced my now aged Father (from convict stock) out of school at aged 12, which is not a bad things since he copped more then one caning for daring to turn up with no shoes (couldn't afford them). He still can't read or write fluently, but his sheer will and determination has seen him become a relatively well off man.
Don't expect or rely on others to steer the course or write your future for you, rely on yourself. Nothing more nothing less.
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#653 Jul 18, 2013
@Abdurratln

#1)You seem to not know much about the law- or people lol. Everyone racially profiles. In my neighborhood we've had dirty looking Occupy Wall Street anarchist white kids- causing trouble/vandalism.. They were watched hard- anyone who looked like them. Zimmerman lived in a neighborhood in which the large majority of the crime, was being caused by thuggish looking black guys... Trayvon fit the description- so he was watched- and reported.. Zimmerman had never seen him before- and behaved like any neighborhood watch person would.

You also do have the right to own a gun... Although I'm sure you vote Democrats, and don't know that Democrats are trying to take that right away from ALL Americans.

#2) That's nice you don't care about race, but again.. Zimmerman was neighborhood watch, and if I lived in his neighborhood I'd be glad someone maybe watched my place while I was away- so I don't come home to find my place broken into- and things I worked hard for stolen. Now if Zimmerman ran up to him and attacked him, yes that would be illegal.

#3)Only person who's civil rights were violated, was Zimmerman's; being that evidence was withheld by the prosecution... Of course you don't care about robberies, thefts, and murder- only time you do is if a black person is shot by a white person who was defending his property.. Blacks like you are childish ignorant morons.

#4) Zimmerman broke no laws, he watched- he reported, and started going back to his car- when the dispatcher said "we don't need you to follow him". Trayvon broke the law, when he decided to go back to the area Zimmerman was in, to attack Zimmerman. Zimmerman in turn defended himself, and Trayvon ended up well dead... Zimmerman is also Hispanic, not white- and Catholic not Jewish.

I hope your post was just a joke, because if not- you're pathetic.
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#654 Jul 18, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
B-word, poverty is a direct result of our not being paid during slavery. Therefore, the only solution to poverty is to go back to slavery and fix the slavery problem in American culture. As it relates to whites, they have to go back to feudalism.
We can NEVER afford to forget history.
ROFL WOW you are an ignorant one aren't you?

Jesus said, the poor will always be among us... People are poor due to three reasons.

1. Poor/wrong choices.

2. Unfortunate and unforeseen occurrences.

3. Some people don't want to do what they are supposed to, are lazy- and feel they need to be paid for living.

I've seen so many black kids, who idolize street/gang culture; turn their noses up at education, and doing the right thing- while they ridicule blacks who do the right thing. The ones who don't do the right thing- if they aren't lucky and become the next big rapper, or basketball/football player- then they make their money in selling drugs, end up dead of course, or spend X amount of years in prison- making themselves another statistic- and continuing the cycle that is killing the black community.
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#655 Jul 18, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Then stop complaining about being called a cracker or an oreo. Obviously you are one. You just said you are one.
You're the only one who looks to be complaining to me. Its what sniveling weak Afrocentric ignorant blacks do best.

Oreos are yummy by the way, so are crackers- especially with clam chowder mmmm nom nom... I'm an American, who happens to be black. I'm proud of who I am- and I gotta say pretty damn happy with my life... Although I do wish I were a bit taller.

All you're doing is basically telling me, that blacks cannot be their own person, or think for themselves. Its ok for white people to call out whites who are bad, and ignorant... But its not ok for blacks to call out blacks who are bad and ignorant... Get it together lol.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#656 Jul 18, 2013
wotnogwavy wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no "fix" that anybody can offer.
I have a fix.
wotnogwavy wrote:
<quoted text>Personally I have no 'answers', but Australia's history is a bit different in that the English sent it's own people in chains as convicts for the slightest of transgressions, eg poaching a rabbit on a landholder's property to feed your starving family.
Mind you, we did get a fair share of cut throats as well.
The point is, some early Governors of Australia, treated Aboriginals, whom were still seen by many as 'primitive natives' actually better then the average English/Irish/Scottish white convict. The mortality rate for convicts was atrocious, yet despite this dubious start and a hatred for the original colonists, many went onto not only survive, but generations prospered.
Poverty forced my now aged Father (from convict stock) out of school at aged 12, which is not a bad things since he copped more then one caning for daring to turn up with no shoes (couldn't afford them). He still can't read or write fluently, but his sheer will and determination has seen him become a relatively well off man.
Don't expect or rely on others to steer the course or write your future for you, rely on yourself. Nothing more nothing less.
Empower the poor. That is my fix. That also means a new political organization. Here, I think the Convention People's Party is the answer.( http://conventionpeoplesparty.org/ )I do not know Austrailia well enough. But an Austrailian aborigine comrade helped me to develop this new theory and slogan
Level 1

Since: Dec 11

Morristown, NJ

#657 Jul 18, 2013
wotnogwavy wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no "fix" that anybody can offer. Ultimately it will be the drive and ambition of the individual that will change the course of their own lives.
Here in Australia, there is a HUGELY disproportionate amount of violence within the Aboriginal community. There is a largely disproportionate amount of health problems, substance abuse, diabetes, kidney/heart ; there is a disproportionate ratio of Aboriginals(Kooris) unemployed; incarcerated. Well you get the picture.
There are available, ABORIGINAL ONLY:
food and cooking educational programmes; Aboriginal targeted employment; training opportunities; substance abuse services; Aboriginal only community buses; Aboriginal only pre schools; Aboriginal children are PAID to attend school; vast tracts of aboriginal land handed back; brand new houses and infrastructure built (that looked trashed within six months due to the ongoing substance abuse and violence issues) etc etc...
Basically vast amounts of money have been poured into "fixing" the problems within the Koori community all to no avail.
Sections of that community are at loggerheads.
Some of the Aboriginal community say that the successive Governments have created generations of a welfare community through handouts and various failed programmes and schemes. They want there community members to become self sufficient and regain independence without being on welfare and stop counting on everybody else to fix THEIR problems.
The other side say that successive Governments don't do enough monetary wise but rankle at "white fella" interference at the same time. They also hold modern day Australia (rightly or wrongly) accountable for two hundred year old wrongs.
Basically, the black community cannot decide itself what exactly should be done.
Australia has become so politically correct and fearful of the "racist" word being directed at them, that children at risk in those communities are turned a blind eye lest another 'stolen generation' be foisted upon them again. It's a political football that NOBODY wants to touch, in the meantime, as per usual it is the innocents that will suffer.
Personally I have no 'answers', but Australia's history is a bit different in that the English sent it's own people in chains as convicts for the slightest of transgressions, eg poaching a rabbit on a landholder's property to feed your starving family.
Mind you, we did get a fair share of cut throats as well.
The point is, some early Governors of Australia, treated Aboriginals, whom were still seen by many as 'primitive natives' actually better then the average English/Irish/Scottish white convict. The mortality rate for convicts was atrocious, yet despite this dubious start and a hatred for the original colonists, many went onto not only survive, but generations prospered.
Poverty forced my now aged Father (from convict stock) out of school at aged 12, which is not a bad things since he copped more then one caning for daring to turn up with no shoes (couldn't afford them). He still can't read or write fluently, but his sheer will and determination has seen him become a relatively well off man.
Don't expect or rely on others to steer the course or write your future for you, rely on yourself. Nothing more nothing less.
Same problem with many blacks in the States. Its Social Democrat policies/ideologies that has ruined the black community- along with blacks who continue to idolize and embrace gang/street culture.

Blacks who do not follow progressive/Social Democrat ideology- don't behave nor think like the messed up ones do.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#658 Jul 18, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>That is nothing but confusion. Common sense means that when the police tells you not to follow someone and you follow them anyhow, you are outside the law. You are in violation. And as far as legal definitions are concerned, you are stalking. But I did not sue that word for legal definition. I used it fclarity to indicate that Zimmerman was indisputably BREAKING THE LAW.
Police DID NOT tell Zimmerman not to following someone. Repeating your propaganda is not going to change facts. A dispatcher told Zimmerman,"we don't need you to do that". As hard as you try, you can never turn that into police telling him not to follow someone. Besides, prove Zimmerman didn't start heading back to his truck at that point. Oh, that's right, the prosecution couldn't prove that either.

Oh, so you want the legal system to punish him, but you do not want to use the legal definitions used to construct and enforce the laws you CLAIM he broke. That makes perfect liberal sense.

That is priceless! A man that was found NOT GUILTY, was indisputably breaking the law, in your mind. That explains sooooooo much!

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