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#1 Oct 17, 2012
Atheist are a very interesting group to me because they say they do not believe in "He" or the bible but possess the attributes that come from the bible. Therefore, I think Atheist are not really Atheist.

They say they do not need the bible to have morals but where do you think "morals" came from?

God = bible.

I could be wrong but the way I see it they are people who want cookies and cake too.

I do not understand it.
Bigsmoke

Eastbourne, UK

#3 Oct 17, 2012
Yes you are wrong and you're illogical.

Do you really think I need a fictional book to tell me not to kill another human being or something?

I see many of you Theists are actually vile in nature so seek something to put you on the right track hence how you actually think your silly fairy tales invented morals.

You need a fictional book to tell you, you'll suffer eternal torture in some afterlife if you don't live a moral lifestyle along with worshiping fictional beings. Having said that without it you'd live an immoral life as you yourself claimed your scriptures invented morals and not a sane ones common sense.

Jesus was a homosexual illusionist with a harem of 12 men, you morons (Christians) fell for it. Kinda like the David Blane of those times. Muhammad was a schizophrenic pedophile and the Al Qaeda are true Muslims.

Ha!

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#4 Oct 17, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
Yes you are wrong and you're illogical.
Do you really think I need a fictional book to tell me not to kill another human being or something?
I see many of you Theists are actually vile in nature so seek something to put you on the right track hence how you actually think your silly fairy tales invented morals.
You need a fictional book to tell you, you'll suffer eternal torture in some afterlife if you don't live a moral lifestyle along with worshiping fictional beings. Having said that without it you'd live an immoral life as you yourself claimed your scriptures invented morals and not a sane ones common sense.
Jesus was a homosexual illusionist with a harem of 12 men, you morons (Christians) fell for it. Kinda like the David Blane of those times. Muhammad was a schizophrenic pedophile and the Al Qaeda are true Muslims.
Ha!
But how can one have morals if he/she dos not believe in the bible or God? That does make sense to me because that is where you were taught from, or those who taught you learned from. I mean once one thinks about being an Atheist does not make sense. You say you have morals but do not believe in God= bible but where did your moral come from? God. Even if you what you are saying is true(which it is not) why does one have to proclaimed they are an Atheist?

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#5 Oct 17, 2012
dark wrote:
People had morals before the Bible was written.
Okay then where did the morals come from? God.
Bigsmoke

Eastbourne, UK

#7 Oct 17, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>But how can one have morals if he/she dos not believe in the bible or God? That does make sense to me because that is where you were taught from, or those who taught you learned from. I mean once one thinks about being an Atheist does not make sense. You say you have morals but do not believe in God= bible but where did your moral come from? God. Even if you what you are saying is true(which it is not) why does one have to proclaimed they are an Atheist?
Because you clearly can't grasp a sane persons common sense as you're vile in nature.

No I was not taught common sense, I was born with it.

You're showing your true colours here. You need the threat of eternal torture to live a moral life. I do not.

I don't have to proclaim I am Atheist. I go day to day without even mentioning it in real life yet I have to put up with you theists of religions.

Have you ever seen an Atheist preaching in the street like a mad man, posting leaflets into your mail, approaching people in the street trying to invite them to some event, take up parking spaces so you can pray 5 times a day in some designated building! Nope but you theist morons part of a religion do that all the damn time.

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#8 Oct 17, 2012
There was a saying

Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.

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#9 Oct 17, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Because you clearly can't grasp a sane persons common sense as you're vile in nature.
No I was not taught common sense, I was born with it.
You're showing your true colours here. You need the threat of eternal torture to live a moral life. I do not.
I don't have to proclaim I am Atheist. I go day to day without even mentioning it in real life yet I have to put up with you theists of religions.
Have you ever seen an Atheist preaching in the street like a mad man, posting leaflets into your mail, approaching people in the street trying to invite them to some event, take up parking spaces so you can pray 5 times a day in some designated building! Nope but you theist morons part of a religion do that all the damn time.
And why is that a bad thing? You make it sound as if you are sane just because the way you think differentiate from others but others can clearly say the same thing about you. Therefore your opinions and my opinions come down to the bible= God. If not how can opinions about what is right and wrong be proven? How did humans know that killing and stealing were wrong?


So you have morals but you do not believe in God.

That does make sense to me.

For who do you think taught humans what to do and what not to do; who instilled morals into us.

Also, you do proclaimed it as if it needs to be known.

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#10 Oct 17, 2012
dark wrote:
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Never met him.
So what is your point. Some children never meet their parents... so I guess they are not real either? Uh, no.

I never seen a lion personally but I know they are real
I never seen a bear but they are real
I never been to Canada but I know the place is real.

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#11 Oct 17, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
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They say they do not need the bible to have morals but where do you think "morals" came from?
.
This debate on religious morality has been severely debunked

Need the bible for morals? You mean the same bible that condones misogyny, slavery, genocide, homophobia, rape, pedophilia, torture, racism etc???

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#12 Oct 17, 2012
Morals come from reason, if you need a book to tell you what is right and wrong then to me that makes one immoral
Bigsmoke

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#13 Oct 17, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>And why is that a bad thing? You make it sound as if you are sane just because the way you think differentiate from others but others can clearly say the same thing about you. Therefore your opinions and my opinions come down to the bible= God. If not how can opinions about what is right and wrong be proven? How did humans know that killing and stealing were wrong?
So you have morals but you do not believe in God.
That does make sense to me.
For who do you think taught humans what to do and what not to do; who instilled morals into us.
Also, you do proclaimed it as if it needs to be known.
You're doing a pretty good job making theists and people of religion look bad. Keep it up.

Because humans figured out we would get alone better in society if we didn't go around killing each other alone. Sane people understand death, understand how it would feel to lose a loved one and apply that to others. We have this thing called ''empathy'' which no silly book can teach. You see a person suffering and you can relate we can grasp others feelings.

Comprehend?

You sound like a psychopath who needs a book to dictate a sane moral life.

Speak for yourself, I do not need a book to teach me moral, you do. It says a lot about what is wrong with you if you can't grasp that.

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#14 Oct 17, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
Yes you are wrong and you're illogical.
Do you really think I need a fictional book to tell me not to kill another human being or something?
I see many of you Theists are actually vile in nature so seek something to put you on the right track hence how you actually think your silly fairy tales invented morals.
You need a fictional book to tell you, you'll suffer eternal torture in some afterlife if you don't live a moral lifestyle along with worshiping fictional beings. Having said that without it you'd live an immoral life as you yourself claimed your scriptures invented morals and not a sane ones common sense.
Jesus was a homosexual illusionist with a harem of 12 men, you morons (Christians) fell for it. Kinda like the David Blane of those times. Muhammad was a schizophrenic pedophile and the Al Qaeda are true Muslims.
Ha!
Religious books brought some moral onto humanity ,if they hadn't say killing was bad ,you probably would be the greatest killer of all times who the heck knows!
These books helped sensibilize people throughout times ,that's the reason why genocides are a big deal in human conscience !

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#15 Oct 17, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
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You're doing a pretty good job making theists and people of religion look bad. Keep it up.
Because humans figured out we would get alone better in society if we didn't go around killing each other alone. Sane people understand death, understand how it would feel to lose a loved one and apply that to others. We have this thing called ''empathy'' which no silly book can teach. You see a person suffering and you can relate we can grasp others feelings.
Comprehend?
You sound like a psychopath who needs a book to dictate a sane moral life.
Speak for yourself, I do not need a book to teach me moral, you do. It says a lot about what is wrong with you if you can't grasp that.
It is not only about the book, it is about God. There are additional laws and statutes in the bible.

But I could say the same exact thing about. I could very well say you are insane and are crazy. See how that works? It proves nothing.
Why would you call one a psychopath just because they do not believe in what you believe?
You state you are an Atheist as if you will accept anything.
Also you stated God's son was a homosexual...why would that even matter if you are an Atheist? You are downgrading homosexuality as if it is a bad thing. But I thought you were an Atheist?
Odd.
Bigsmoke

Eastbourne, UK

#16 Oct 17, 2012
dcool wrote:
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Religious books brought some moral onto humanity ,if they hadn't say killing was bad ,you probably would be the greatest killer of all times who the heck knows!
These books helped sensibilize people throughout times ,that's the reason why genocides are a big deal in human conscience !
You religious folk sure do have small minds.

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#17 Oct 17, 2012
KushTheKid wrote:
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This debate on religious morality has been severely debunked
Need the bible for morals? You mean the same bible that condones misogyny, slavery, genocide, homophobia, rape, pedophilia, torture, racism etc???
The bible is a book of stories.
Think of it as Aesop fables;

at the end of every story there is a moral to be learned.
That is what the bible is for, so we will not make the same mistakes our ancestors made.

Also, you must note. Everything we are talking about right here and now has already been done before.
Atheism is not new
Your way of thinking is not new
My way of thinking is not new
Homosexuality is not new.

The question is what happen to the people who committed such acts.
The bible tells you.

Now, what does that tell one?
Bigsmoke

Eastbourne, UK

#18 Oct 17, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>It is not only about the book, it is about God. There are additional laws and statutes in the bible.
But I could say the same exact thing about. I could very well say you are insane and are crazy. See how that works? It proves nothing.
Why would you call one a psychopath just because they do not believe in what you believe?
You state you are an Atheist as if you will accept anything.
Also you stated God's son was a homosexual...why would that even matter if you are an Atheist? You are downgrading homosexuality as if it is a bad thing. But I thought you were an Atheist?
Odd.
You do show traits of a psychopath, clear cut traits.

Psychopaths have to be told what is wrong or right they are not born that way. You're expressing such a mentality. The fact that you insist that one can't be an atheist and moral solidifies that you most likely are one. Psychopaths are almost always Theists by the way.

What do I believe? I haven't expressed any beliefs on here other than I believe you're a psychopath.

It doesn't matter that he was a homosexual, neither does it matter that he was an illusionist, I'm just putting that out there. I know it matters to you guys though reason why I made sure to mention both.

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#19 Oct 17, 2012
KushTheKid wrote:
Morals come from reason, if you need a book to tell you what is right and wrong then to me that makes one immoral
It is not as simple as that so why does one try to make it seem as such.

Seriously though, if one accepts morals then why cannot one accept the bible?

That does not add up.

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#20 Oct 17, 2012
KushTheKid wrote:
There was a saying
Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.
It does matter what one says. The question is is it true.

I could say killing, stealing, and eating humans is not bad...that does not make it true.

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#21 Oct 17, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
You do show traits of a psychopath, clear cut traits.
Psychopaths have to be told what is wrong or right they are not born that way. You're expressing such a mentality. The fact that you insist that one can't be an atheist and moral solidifies that you most likely are one. Psychopaths are almost always Theists by the way.
What do I believe? I haven't expressed any beliefs on here other than I believe you're a psychopath.
It doesn't matter that he was a homosexual, neither does it matter that he was an illusionist, I'm just putting that out there. I know it matters to you guys though reason why I made sure to mention both.
But why do you go so far as psychopath? I do not get it. It is not that hard to say you are a psychopath.
Anyone can call someone a name.

But it is not going to get you anywhere.

You act as if Atheist are bound to be a better people than people who believe in God. You act as if you are willing to accept anything but you do not.

You say you have morals but do not want to acknowledge God as if if you did you would have to answer to someone( deity).

You believe in what you think but that does not make sense because I can state that "killing is fun,, it is not wrong; I do what I want"
You see how that works?
You have nothing to stand on except your thoughts which are not even valid.
Bigsmoke

Eastbourne, UK

#22 Oct 17, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>But why do you go so far as psychopath? I do not get it. It is not that hard to say you are a psychopath.
Anyone can call someone a name.
But it is not going to get you anywhere.
You act as if Atheist are bound to be a better people than people who believe in God. You act as if you are willing to accept anything but you do not.
You say you have morals but do not want to acknowledge God as if if you did you would have to answer to someone( deity).
You believe in what you think but that does not make sense because I can state that "killing is fun,, it is not wrong; I do what I want"
You see how that works?
You have nothing to stand on except your thoughts which are not even valid.
I'm not name calling I'm expressing the traits you're expressing on here.

You have clearly psychopathic traits.

No I do not ''act as if Atheist are bound to be a better people than people who believe in God''. No I do not ''act as if you are willing to accept anything but you do not'', I really do for the most part.

I do have morals and I do not need to believe in a imaginary being (God) to have them.

You don't have a clue what ''empathy'' is, you know why? Because you're a ''psychopath''. It explains this thread and your mind frame.

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