I'm not BLACK I'm Creole

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Glendale, CA

#671 Mar 6, 2013
smh wrote:
you cant be half or 75% 25% creole since its not a race. either youre a creole or youre not. im creole myself so i obviously know these things.
yeah, true dat, but this is sort of an abstract concept. Like saying: oh i'm half puerto rican...well, you can't say that because puerto rican is a nationality/ethnic group, not a race...but i get your point though.
jumpstart

Prince Frederick, MD

#672 Mar 14, 2013
Homer Plessy a creole arrested. Why? he was black
Jannette

Jamaica, NY

#674 Mar 17, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
I am definitely not a linguistics major/minor and do not know much about language morphology or anything like that, however I do know what a creole is Fixed. I was born and raised in california, so if anything i have more hispanic culture than french, but you seem mad. Creole can be an ethnicity, or it can have to do with culture. Ethnic creoles are like myself: we can be born anywhere and still retain our creole background (just like a Mexican being born and raised in someplace far-removed like New York still remains ethnically Mexican)
People seem to interpret creole to be only Louisiana French,and black mixed ethnicity mix.
But the broader interpretation of creole,as I understand it,is any mix that includes,caucasion,and black,so that the requirement is to have the mix include black and white.In which case,any biracial of black and white mix,or black,white,and Indian,or black,white, and Asian even,all such individuals can correctly be call-creole, as long as the mix include black,and white admixtures. I quess in that case,though I am not from Lousiana,but from the Caribbean,I am still creole,because my mix is caucasian,black,and East Indian.

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#675 Mar 17, 2013
Jannette wrote:
<quoted text>People seem to interpret creole to be only Louisiana French,and black mixed ethnicity mix.
But the broader interpretation of creole,as I understand it,is any mix that includes,caucasion,and black,so that the requirement is to have the mix include black and white.In which case,any biracial of black and white mix,or black,white,and Indian,or black,white, and Asian even,all such individuals can correctly be call-creole, as long as the mix include black,and white admixtures. I quess in that case,though I am not from Lousiana,but from the Caribbean,I am still creole,because my mix is caucasian,black,and East Indian.
did you not read this thread? creole HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING MIXED!
Noworries

Mckinney, TX

#677 Mar 19, 2013
I just don't see what the big hooplah is about I get the African influences, I mean absolutely. But I mean I just don't think the explanation applies to every person considering there are many "Creole" people who have a variety of backgrounds. There is no doubt that creole is a culture, heritage all that jazz, but you can't shove information down someone's throat who does have a melting pot of breeding. My point is that some of these people may be multiracial because of went down a zillion years ago I just don't think it's fair to categorize just one area without recognizing the others I mean French people may have came over here and raped a native American lady, west African slave if these people procreated and resided in Louisiana adopting all the cultural influences that are there....does that make a "creole" eh I just think its way to much to try and dissect.
senor creole

Omaha, NE

#678 Apr 4, 2013
louisiana creole is like being latino. very similar in cultural food music and ethnic makeup.

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#679 Apr 24, 2013
senor creole wrote:
louisiana creole is like being latino. very similar in cultural food music and ethnic makeup.
true. Like puerto ricans/dominicans with black ancestry are black. If creoles have black ancestry, race-wise we are black.

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#680 Apr 24, 2013
jumpstart wrote:
Homer Plessy a creole arrested. Why? he was black
he was arrested because he had african in him, yes. Plessy was not a white man. But he wasn't negro either. Any non-white (including hispanic/jap) would have been treated the same way in a racist, anglo society...like sht.
yep

Omaha, NE

#681 Apr 28, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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true. Like puerto ricans/dominicans with black ancestry are black. If creoles have black ancestry, race-wise we are black.
right just like a latino and a creole that are both purely spanish descent. theyre both the same. just like there are french latinos. especially french mexicans/dominicans. alot of creoles are spaniards and only speak spanish. like in st.bernard parish louisiana. funny i know all this and im just a "quarter" by anglo racial laws

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#682 Apr 28, 2013
yep wrote:
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right just like a latino and a creole that are both purely spanish descent. theyre both the same. just like there are french latinos. especially french mexicans/dominicans. alot of creoles are spaniards and only speak spanish. like in st.bernard parish louisiana. funny i know all this and im just a "quarter" by anglo racial laws
lol i'm going to copy paste this into another one of my threads!
Amelia Sugar COCAINE

Castle Rock, CO

#683 Apr 28, 2013
yep wrote:
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right just like a latino and a creole that are both purely spanish descent. theyre both the same. just like there are french latinos. especially french mexicans/dominicans. alot of creoles are spaniards and only speak spanish. like in st.bernard parish louisiana. funny i know all this and im just a "quarter" by anglo racial laws
The Creoles in Belize (Latin America), are these the "Spanish Creoles" you're referring to? I'm just asking because you're confusing me. I wouldn't say latinos and Creoles are exactly the same because we're not exactly the same but similar in racial makeups. Different histories and culture. Yes, some Creoles have Spanish ancestry, but majority French. What is a French latino, then what is the difference between a French latino and a latino?

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#684 Apr 28, 2013
Amelia Sugar COCAINE wrote:
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The Creoles in Belize (Latin America), are these the "Spanish Creoles" you're referring to? I'm just asking because you're confusing me. I wouldn't say latinos and Creoles are exactly the same because we're not exactly the same but similar in racial makeups. Different histories and culture. Yes, some Creoles have Spanish ancestry, but majority French. What is a French latino, then what is the difference between a French latino and a latino?
a french latino is someone of french descent residing in a latin country such as mexico. an example would be:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_intervent...
Amelia Sugar COCAINE

Castle Rock, CO

#685 Apr 28, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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a french latino is someone of french descent residing in a latin country such as mexico. an example would be:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_intervent...
A French immigrant who migrated to Latin America, correct? That's the only thing I can come up with. Much like a Japanese Brazilian. I take it these two are similar.

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#686 Apr 28, 2013
Amelia Sugar COCAINE wrote:
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A French immigrant who migrated to Latin America, correct? That's the only thing I can come up with. Much like a Japanese Brazilian. I take it these two are similar.
yeah, at some point the french had to migrate.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#687 Apr 28, 2013
yep wrote:
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right just like a latino and a creole that are both purely spanish descent. theyre both the same. just like there are french latinos. especially french mexicans/dominicans. alot of creoles are spaniards and only speak spanish. like in st.bernard parish louisiana. funny i know all this and im just a "quarter" by anglo racial laws
I see, so this is where some of the Yank funny BS comes from. ;-) For the record, there are no Spanish creoles in the ole Yankland, since the end of Spanish colonial times in the ole Yankland, & even then those 'creoles' where white Spanish settlers from the Canary Islands, just like some still live in S.Louisiana. ;-D & they speak a Spanish dialect close to Andlausian & Xtremadurian. ;-) Yank Acadians/Cajuns are also not Louisiana (French) Creoles, nor are Croats/Dalmatians, Italians, Greeks, Poles, Czechs, etc. ;-D

“Sexy emo chick :)”

Level 3

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#688 Apr 28, 2013
im trini not blk...lol well thats not gonna work its to obvious im a n***a

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#689 Apr 28, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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I see, so this is where some of the Yank funny BS comes from. ;-) For the record, there are no Spanish creoles in the ole Yankland, since the end of Spanish colonial times in the ole Yankland, & even then those 'creoles' where white Spanish settlers from the Canary Islands, just like some still live in S.Louisiana. ;-D & they speak a Spanish dialect close to Andlausian & Xtremadurian. ;-) Yank Acadians/Cajuns are also not Louisiana (French) Creoles, nor are Croats/Dalmatians, Italians, Greeks, Poles, Czechs, etc. ;-D
OKAY stfu! I know my OWN damn lineage fool! My ancestors are from...saywhatidiot!:

1) andalusia, spain (i can trace my ancestors directly to there)
2) france (Paris, angers, Le Maine)(they went through new orleans)
3) Choctaw indian (i can name a person in my family who is choctaw...it's not much native american blood there, but it's damn better than those indian princess stories so many negros/anglos have floatin around)
4) african american
5) swiss german (a pinch)
6) welsh and british (mother's side)

So idiotsaywhat, i KNOW where the fck MY ancestors are from. Why don't you look back up in your tree or are you afraid you may run into a congolese slave?
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#690 Apr 29, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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OKAY stfu! I know my OWN damn lineage fool! My ancestors are from...saywhatidiot!:
1) andalusia, spain (i can trace my ancestors directly to there)
2) france (Paris, angers, Le Maine)(they went through new orleans)
3) Choctaw indian (i can name a person in my family who is choctaw...it's not much native american blood there, but it's damn better than those indian princess stories so many negros/anglos have floatin around)
4) african american
5) swiss german (a pinch)
6) welsh and british (mother's side)
So idiotsaywhat, i KNOW where the fck MY ancestors are from. Why don't you look back up in your tree or are you afraid you may run into a congolese slave?
Swiss German?! ;-D Yeah, right, must be straight from Baselland, or Baselstadt, or actually Aargau, nah, most likely Solothurn, aight?! ;-) Actually, I should ask our Swiss BRA peeps to give us a hint where on earth yo' Swiss German genes could possibly come from. ;-D
Amelia Sugar COCAINE

Castle Rock, CO

#691 Apr 29, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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yeah, at some point the french had to migrate.
Ahhhh gotcha. I thought that guy was trying to say Creoles are to be called hispanic or latino. Yeah at some point the French went there. Gotcha girlie.

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#692 Apr 29, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Swiss German?! ;-D Yeah, right, must be straight from Baselland, or Baselstadt, or actually Aargau, nah, most likely Solothurn, aight?! ;-) Actually, I should ask our Swiss BRA peeps to give us a hint where on earth yo' Swiss German genes could possibly come from. ;-D
no, actually from Graubuenden, Switzerland circa 1700.(and no, i didn't make that sht up, it's in the records)

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